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Myrick Zoo transforming into ecopark


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A $4.8 million project is under way to transform La Crosse’s Myrick Park Zoo into an ecopark linked to Hixon Forest.

Seven Coulee Region Rotary clubs and Hixon Forest Nature Center’s plan, “Just Zoo It and More,” would change the zoo from a place where animals are displayed to an ecopark where visitors see how North American animals live.
The Rotary clubs and Hixon Forest want to combine the natural resources of Myrick Park and Hixon to create more educational opportunities for residents and visitors.

“Ecopark is a name we gave the project,” said Stephanie DuCharme, Valley View Rotarian and member of the project’s steering committee. “It’s a destination that encourages appreciation and education of nature and the animals in it.

“It’s not only educational but also a recreational destination for families who like to see nature and animals and experience the out-of-doors. And the word ‘eco’ means it would be more friendly to the animals. While they will be constrained, it will be more like their environment.”

The project picks up where a study commissioned by the city of La Crosse more than five years ago left off. The city cited budget constraints when it shelved a master plan developed from that study.

Planners expect the annual number of visitors to increase from about 50,000 now to between 100,000 and 150,000.

“I wholeheartedly support this project because I think our current zoo needs renovation, and this will be a project between the public and private sectors of

La Crosse,” said Mayor Mark Johnsrud. “Rotary is raising the funds to make this possible, so we do not have to use taxpayer dollars to renovate the zoo.”

Hixon Forest Nature Center, which provides nature education programs, would join the ecopark, and the forest and

La Crosse River Marsh would continue to be used for environmental education.

“We can be partners with education, pre-kindergarten through college,” said DuCharme, envisioning a new facility that could be used by college students with majors such as biology and pre-veterinary medicine.

“Imagine teaching about wetland ecology in a room with egrets, waterfowl and muskrats visible through the window,” she said. “Imagine this zoo and environmental education facility located adjacent to a 1,100-acre wetland and near an 800-acre forest in an urban area, helping people understand and appreciate the tremendous natural resources of this area.”

The current zoo is outdated at best and at worst does not provide comfortable living for the animals, according to a packet given to potential benefactors.

In addition, DuCharme said, the current zoo is not accredited and planners would work to acquire accreditation for the new facility.

Johnsrud said he considered closing the zoo as a way to save money in this year’s budget because of the poor condition.

Under the ecopark plan, the old zoo building would be renovated into the veterinary headquarters and nocturnal building, and a 10,000-square-foot nature center would replace the cramped 1,200-square-foot nature center.

Animals indigenous to the area would be put in natural environments. Exotic animals, including the monkeys and peacocks, would be sent to retirement communities for zoo animals. Monkey Island would become a showcase exhibit featuring otters.

Planners said removing the monkeys might be controversial. “It makes eminent sense to have indigenous animals because having animals from the Upper Midwest falls in the realm of an educational zoo,” said Bob Berg, La Crosse Parks and Recreation Department.

The physical layout would be different as the road through the zoo would be gone, and the connections between the zoo, Hixon Forest and the marsh improved. The ecopark still would contain a place for rides and amusements.

Features would include a barnyard exhibit, an aquarium and a building for nocturnal animals, where night conditions will be mimicked, enabling people to see the animals when they are active.

The current zoo is free, but there probably would be a charge to enter the entire ecopark, though the fee has not been established. Admission to the Nature Center would be free; the park would have free admission sometimes.

A portion of each dollar collected will go to an endowment for future expenses, said Teri Wildt, fundraising co-chairman. “We do not want to just raise the money and then go away.”

The city probably would participate, perhaps by improving Myrick Park or the trail linking Hixon Forest to the park, Johnsrud said.

Berg said he imagines the city would have a long-term lease with the ecopark foundation like it has with other groups operating on city property, such as the La Crosse Loggers in Copeland Park.

Members of the ecopark steering committee concede the project is an ambitious one. But they point out that the Coulee Region Rotary clubs shepherded the Kids Coulee project and annually coordinate Rotary Lights, and that Rotary International spearheaded the worldwide eradication of polio.

$1 million already raised

About $1 million has been raised for La Crosse’s $4.8 million ecopark, said Natalie Hartigan, fundraising chairwoman.

Donors have sponsored the prairie dog exhibit, birds of prey aviaries, marsh interpretation aviaries, marsh overlook, songbirds exhibit and rabbit exhibit, she said.

The project’s steering committee estimates it will take about a year to raise the funds, at which point the project could begin.

For information on the project or to become involved, send an e-mail to myrickecopark@aol.com.

Donations can be made to La Crosse Rotary Foundation, Myrick EcoPark Project, P.O. Box 3583, La Crosse, WI 54602-3583.

THE PROJECT

Local Rotary clubs came up with the zoo renovation idea two years ago to celebrate the 100th anniversary of Rotary International, when clubs were challenged to undertake projects with impact on their communities. Rotary clubs involved are Valley View, Downtown, East, North, Onalaska, La Crescent and Caledonia, Minn. Together, they have about 450 members.
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Lori Gusse wrote on May 29, 2006 11:30 PM:

" If the monkeys are so unhealthy due to living in a zoo, then maybe all the monkeys in North America should be shipped to their native lands. How does Henry Vilas Zoo take care of their monkeys? I don't think the real issues here are the health of the monkeys. You could make the same statement regarding free monkeys (poor things; they have to find their own food!). Other popular zoos have monkeys and there is no boycott on them anywhere else but here. yes, the zoo needs renovation, and it can be done, but a few with self-imposed authority don't care what the public thinks, otherwise they would have put it to us.The public has no power in this. "

Can't believe this is happening! wrote on May 29, 2006 11:14 PM:

" Dear "Involved," People go to zoos to see exotic animals. My family (and many, many others) walk the trails, etc., to see the very animals that you want caged up. We'll put our money to better use. Rather than pay $4 to see an ecopark (by the way, isn't it discrimination when poor people in the area can't have the same options as higher classes?), we'll drive to Madison (they have great zoos). "

Joe G. wrote on May 29, 2006 11:03 PM:

" Hixon Forest, common council, rotary club: who's on who's? Why wasn't this vote given to the public? "

Michael wrote on May 29, 2006 11:00 PM:

" I just watched Channel 8 where a representativ of the eco park stated that they are doing this new project for the health of the animals, mentioning that exoctic animals cannot be cared for adequately. WHAT A COPOUT! Como Park, Henry Vilas Zoo, etc. can take care of their exotic animals (and they've survived for 77 years). If that's really the case, then you will use the money to renovate Myrick Park Zoo rather than spend 4 million on an eco park.I see muskrats, raccoons, badgers, etc., everywhere. What a shame that we will no longer have a zoo (a cute duck pond area, monkeys, etc.). We don't NEED another eco park. "

Angry wrote on May 29, 2006 10:54 PM:

" 150,000 people at $4 each. You do the math! I know that I won't pay that, and I feel sorry for the children who have parents who can't afford that. Why would anyone want to see everyday animals (much less pay for) in an eco park when we can go to the trails or Goose Island. Also, I hope that all those 150,000 people show up, because there is the possbility that this just may fail (at a heavy cost price of 4 million). "

Sara wrote on May 29, 2006 10:50 PM:

" Sure, we do not have to use taxpayers dollars for this project, but you're still discriminating against the poor. $4 to get in is atrocious per individual. I have a family of four; we'll just take that money 4x4 = 20 dollars for gas and drive to Madison where they do have monkeys. Zoos are all about exotic animals; and every zoo in surrounding states manage to keep their animals happy and healthy. That is just a cop-out about getting rid of the zoo due to the animals health. Why would I want to see road-kill animals vs. exotic? "

Ruth wrote on May 29, 2006 10:45 PM:

" We could learn a lesson from Onalaska city officials. They recently acquired land and they called on the citizens of Onalaska as to what to do with it. In other words, they were respectful of their citizens' imput. How sad that a few, powerful people (powerful, because they're getting away with it), with self-imposed authority can dictate what needs to be done with Myrick Park. You go to Henry Vilas Zoo in Madison, and they have monkeys (and, yes, they're surviving. Take the money and revovate Myrick Park; I'd contribute to that! But not one red cent to this new project. "

Carter wrote on May 5, 2006 5:25 PM:

" Today someone from the board came to talk to us about the changes that are going to hopefully take place and told us how much money it cost and they didn’t have half of the money so they asked us to help out by making a public service announcement. I don’t know about everyone else in my class but I think it looked really cool but to take out all of the non-native animals is almost like a crime to the community. That means no more monkeys, no more boa constrictor, and no more peacocks. I must have been thinking wrong but I thought that a zoo was supposed to be a place that I could go and see animals that didn’t live here and that I wouldn’t see everyday outside for FREE. They charge us to see cows, horses and animals we see everyday. RECONSIDER. "

Jordan wrote on May 1, 2006 9:48 PM:

" I know when I was little I loved to go to Myrick Park to see the monkeys and the other exotic animals that I couldn’t see dead on the side of the road. I know that someday when I have kids I want them to be able to have some of the same opportunities that I was able to have, and that includes being able to see monkeys without having to drive far away to some big zoo. Now that is not saying that I don’t think that there are some changes that need to take place, for instance the cages are filthy and no animal deserves to live like that. Even so, don’t take the monkeys; they are what make Myrick Park what it is--a nice, small place to be able to see animals that you don’t ordinarily get to see. "

WHY TAKE THE MONKEYS, WE EVOLVED FROM THEM wrote on Apr 26, 2006 10:15 AM:

" the monkeys have like a rep in the zoo. their cage is the second biggest in the whole zoo. Now there will be what to replace it. My mom always told me to think before i act...well you better listen before you start a riot. I've read all the other articles above and like 90% of them are to "save the monkeys". Well do as we say and we'll all be happy. Remember what your taking away, not just the monkeys and such, but LaCrosses entertainment. Please keep the monkeys not for me but for everyone. "Think before you act". "

OOh OOh aah aah wrote on Apr 26, 2006 10:03 AM:

" uh uh ah ah uh ah uhuh ah ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!im godzilla....keep my cousins or i will come back alive and eat you....jk....but really...keep my cousins there dudes.uh uh ah ah ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

Anthony Aarstead wrote on Apr 26, 2006 10:00 AM:

" Save the money and save the monkeys. "

Onalaska involvement? Brakes people, brakes! wrote on Apr 13, 2006 7:33 AM:

" I question why the Onalaska Rotary Club is involved in this when people in their own city has a very worthwhile project going already: Clearwater Farm. The Onalaska project is something educational, historical, involves animals, and is supported by the vast number of residents. I suggest that the Onalaska Rotary people back away from the New Zoo plan in La Crosse and support a worthwhile project in their own backyard. "

Rotary Club Membership wrote on Apr 12, 2006 5:30 AM:

" Are there Rotary Club members who sit on the Hixon Forest Board? Is Mayor Johnsrud a member of the Rotary Club? Are there Rotary Club members on the Common Council? "

Hixon Forest Funding wrote on Apr 12, 2006 5:26 AM:

" I would like to know about the funding of Hixon Forest itself. Are city funds supporting this shadowy "Hixon Forest Board" that saw fit to underhandedly sieze control of Myrick Park Zoo? And have unsuspecting members of Hixon Forest contributed to this mess by giving money to Hixon Forest in the form of membership fees and donations? A new board should be created to oversee Myrick Park Zoo, completely independent of the Hixon Forest people. It is that new board the Rotary Club should deal with, if it wants to contribute to the development of Myrick Park Zoo. I believe this whole New Zoo idea is just a new source of funding for the Hixon Forest Board, and the Rotary Club fell for board's plan hook, line, and sinker. "

A Modified Plan wrote on Apr 12, 2006 5:12 AM:

" The New Zoo plan should be modified to include the monkeys -- or any other exotic animals that are currently part of historic Myrick Park Zoo. I am shocked by the lack of input of council members in all of this too by the way. Who are you afraid of? The Rotary Club? Who actually governs the City of La Crosse? The Common Council and the mayor, or a select group of business people and professionals who will not change their ways to support the will of the people of La Crosse? "

Bottom Line: The Voice of the People in Planning wrote on Apr 12, 2006 4:58 AM:

" The original New Zoo plan (picked up by the Rotary Club people) did not take into consideration what the people of La Crosse actually wanted. Also, the Hixon Forest Board overstepped its boundaries; the board should NOT have any say into the future of Myrick Park Zoo. Keep to the management of Hixon Forest, not Myrick Park, Hixon Foresters! Rotary Club people: you have been duped; use your talents for the benefit of the people. Common Council members, Park Board members, and most importantly, Mayor Johnsrud: Start listening to the voice of the people, not some small group (the Hixon Forest Board) which has not been watched over properly by city officials and staff. Show respect for the culture and history of the City of La Crosse! "

Chill pt. 2 wrote on Apr 10, 2006 10:14 AM:

" To those people involved with this project: Please continue your underappreciated efforts with this thought--you're NEVER going to please EVERYONE, so stay the course! To those people questioning or opposing this project: Please continue you efforts as well--this must be looked at from every angle and all possibilities considered. The present state of the zoo is unacceptable to the community and the animals--that's why it's free--no one in their right mind would pay to see it the way it is now. Some people fear change, and that's OK, but in this case, the positives far outweigh the negatives. I mean really, can anyone HONESTLY say they are proud of the zoo the way it is. "

Get a perspective wrote on Apr 8, 2006 11:13 AM:

" Think about it - there is a real possibility that the zoo will be closed if efforts are not made to upgrade it - then there will be no monkeys or other animals. The monkeys currently just sit there and pick at one another in their old age. Think about the entertainment that active otters could provide! The zoo can not continue as is, so why not praise those that are trying to make an effort to improve it for your enjoyment. "

Not a Hixon Forest Member no longer wrote on Apr 7, 2006 10:45 PM:

" I am a Hixon Forest Member. I get the newletters bi-monthly. I'm really saddened that the Hixon Forest Members (Committee) hid this from us. Transforming Myrick Park was not mentioned in the newsletter; and now we know why. A new committee should be formed that is objective and would not benefit the party at hand. I, for one, am dropping my membership. "

Education vs. Entertainment wrote on Apr 7, 2006 10:39 PM:

" A groundhog is a groundhog is a groundhog! If you're speaking "education," you can go read about the groundhogs every for the rest of your life at Myrick and not learn anything new!Monkeys will entertain you every day of the year for the rest of your life. Kids go to zoos to be entertained, not educated. If kids knew that they were to be educated (at the zoos), they wouldn't go! Zoos are for children; eco parks are for adults who have nothing else to do. We already have eco parks all around us. "

A Beautiful Park wrote on Apr 7, 2006 9:33 PM:

" Yes, Myrick Park does need repairs. But at one time it was a beautiful park, and with the right funding it can be restored. I have been to all the parks that were mentioned above (Como Park, Henry Villas, etc.). They are nice parks, but they're not special parks. This is the most quaint, adorable park I have ever seen. It just needs some tender loving care. Let's not destroy this quaint park, but preserve it. Como park also has animals in cages; that is not the problem here. the problem is that we had the rug pulled out from under our feet; now we have no say. "

Education? wrote on Apr 7, 2006 9:16 PM:

" My kids already have hours of homework crammed down their throats. They can get education anywhere!! As for the comments about the liberals being dumb; well, I'm a liberal and I have a higher education. The dumb part of this whole mess is ignoring the citizens imput in this, and now I fear it is too late. Maybe we should hire people to give spelling bees at the local swimming pools this summer! "

I've seen the world! wrote on Apr 7, 2006 9:09 PM:

" I've seen Milwaukee zoos, Madison zoos, Minnesota zoos, etc. Yes, they are educational, but none are as special, quaint, etc. as Myrick Park Zoo. Yes, it does need to be updated, but I'm sure the money could be found if they really wanted that. I also find it interesting that we were the last to find out about this issue. That wasn't fair!!! "

Guy wrote on Apr 7, 2006 8:58 PM:

" How sad that we have to beg to keep the boats, the monkeys, etc. Doesn't the marsh give us eco "parks?" or even our own backyards. Why not recreate part of Goose Island for the eco experiment, and keep the zoo as it is. If people are so admanant in keeping the zoo (but updating it), then lets keep talking. I do feel betrayed!!! As for "Involved" I do think those monkeys are quite happy right here! "

Carol wrote on Apr 7, 2006 8:48 PM:

" It's too late. We have no vote!!! They made this decision without us. "

P.G. wrote on Apr 7, 2006 8:46 PM:

" First of all, if I wanted more education for my kids I would add another hour upon the two hours they already have each night, and they're only in 3rd and 4th grade. Why can't a zoo be a place for fun!!! Another thing, I am a member of Hixon Forest. I received a newletter a month or so ago about making the forest an eco park, but nothing was mentioned about Myrick; they knew people would be upset, so they declined to mention it. Shame. "

R.G. wrote on Apr 7, 2006 8:37 PM:

" What a sneaky thing to do to the citizens of La Crosse. I grew up here and spent my childhood at Myrick Park. Why wasn't this ever mentioned before now (eco park)? this was purposely staged at this late date (funding all ready processed), so that citizens of La Crosse would not be able to intervene in this one-sided decision. Why wasn't this given to the people of La Crosse to approve? Another thing, the monkeys are one of the most entertaining animals at the zool (now we will have to go to Minnesota, etc., to see anything as entertaining). That zoo is part of everyone's heritage. Shame on all of you!!! This was one of the most underhanded, sneaky, behind-our-backs ever within the history of La Crosse. "

Hank Scorpio wrote on Apr 6, 2006 8:32 PM:

" Bring back the Gun Club so I can trapshoot. I do so miss it. "

Neo32679 wrote on Apr 6, 2006 4:55 PM:

" I no longer live in La Crosse but was born and raised there and lived there til I was 23 I am 27 now. I used to go to Myric Park every year with my family. Even back then I wasn't that impressed with the zoo, most of the animals there you can already see around here, as well as the condition has never been that fantastic anyways. Everyone is complaining about not getting rid of the monkeys, why? I'll tell you because that's one of the only "exotic" animals at the zoo. Changing it to an ecopark is not going to change very much. Also People have been talking about the rides Our kids now days they want more excitement. I think an ecopark is probably the most logic solution to fixing the park. "

To Former Resident wrote on Apr 6, 2006 10:26 AM:

" Please read the article carefully. There will still continue to be free hours with no admission cost on some days for everyone. Also, the nature center will not have an entrance fee. Second, part of the revenue to sustain and grow what is there already and will be built will come from concessions and a gift shop not just entrance fees. Last, the money that is raised will go to the animals and the park, not to anyone else. I'm sure the people working on this would accept contributions from anywhere, even Maui! "

Julie J wrote on Apr 6, 2006 10:13 AM:

" "Looking ahead" - I know that I am romanticizing memories of the park, but I have been going there every season since I was 5 and my son was 9. I agree that it needs to be cleaned up/updated, but I was hoping they could find a way to do this and still keep our favorite attractions. It is a very good idea having a donation only park. People respond better to the word donation then to fee, especially if it is for a good cause, a cause they believe in. Donate to upkeep of the monkeys or prairie dogs. Whatever they need money for at the time. Limiting the free entrance to certain days/times also limits when we can go, rather than going on our weekend/weekday off. I think the hardworking, low-income families in this community are very much losing out. "

TO: Dog park user wrote on Apr 6, 2006 10:12 AM:

" That is not the only off leash dog park in the area. There is one on the North Side as you cross the bridge to go over to French Island it is on the left back behind the big Army tank. "

former resident wrote on Apr 6, 2006 7:51 AM:

" well as i read the article proposing the eco park the first thing that came to my mind was that another free activity for those of us looking for free fun for the kids is now gone. Also, how the heck did a Johnsrud become mayor. I am living on Maui now, but am continually disappointed at the way capitalism keeps destroying the small town that I love. "

Involved wrote on Apr 6, 2006 7:48 AM:

" There are no plans to get rid of the dog park, Kids Coulee, the rides or much of the grounds. The changes will impact the aea where the zoo currently sits. This is where the nature center, otter exhibit, aquariam and all the other new exhibits wil be placed. "

Dog Park User wrote on Apr 5, 2006 10:19 PM:

" Does anyone know if they are getting rid of the dog park? It's the only off leash park in the area. It might be small, but if you go there around five you can see how popular it is. We have plenty of nature around here to look at. They should have improved Myrick a long time ago. It would probably cost a lot less than the eco park. "

Chill wrote on Apr 5, 2006 3:48 PM:

" There are a lot of families who may not have the ability, financial or otherwise, to drive outside the community and see animals in nature or in another zoo. The old saying "you get what you pay for" could not be truer than in this case. Paying a couple of bucks for the type of environment that is being proposed is a bargain. As far as the monkeys, I understand the emotional and historical attatchment people have to them. But have you ever seen an otter pond environment? They do more in five minutes than monkeys do in five days! And they are more adaptable to our climate. Everyone please take a deep breath, get your emotions in check, and think sensibly about this project and it's potentially positive impact on our community. "

Lenny wrote on Apr 5, 2006 3:40 PM:

" What about the monkeys running City Hall? "

Whats Up.... wrote on Apr 5, 2006 1:08 PM:

" I have been a resident of La Crosse all my life. As a child, Myrick Park was the place to go. We were always excited to go see the monkeys and the other animals they had. Why can't we use the money raised and upgrade what we have, we can see all the animals you want to put in this Eco Park just south of town in a county park, and its free. What is happening to this city and this mayor, forcing people out of their properties(Mr.D's) and backing this Eco park. I am glad I did not vote fot this mayor. "

Compromise wrote on Apr 5, 2006 12:47 PM:

" What is a zoo without monkey's and other exotic animals? Simple solution. Update the Myrick Park zoo and use other space for the proposed current project. My vote, keep the zoo the way it is, but update it. "

Person who knew the zoo well wrote on Apr 5, 2006 12:31 PM:

" Hi I used to go to the zoo all the time when I came to LaCrosse it was always a fun place to be I remember when the monkeys had alot of stuff to play on and the prairie Dogs where happy and there was alot too see there even when they had the petting zoo part to go in and see all the animals. I think changing it is stupid make it better put in more stuff to look at make it worth while and don't change the name leave it the way it is it is better Myrick park then the other one thanks "

:) wrote on Apr 5, 2006 12:07 PM:

" Zoo animal retirement home? Get real. The city seems to have forgotten what happend to the beloved bear the zoo once had. If I wanted to see a North American ecosystem, all I would have to do is walk around the area's wetlands. There's plenty to see, but one doesn't have the $4,000,000 worth of little signs to help me know that the rabbit, deer, or woodchuck in my backyard or eagle or hawk flying over is part of the system. I find it rather strange to think that tourists are going to come to Myrick Park to see the same stuff in their own backyards. "

old timer wrote on Apr 5, 2006 9:51 AM:

" I certainly did not intend to criticize the Rotarians re somone wanting to take some of the Myrick Park area for future student housing. My remarks were regarding certain developers that are using long term projections to come up with future investments. Rotary is EXCELLENT "

Teen At Central High School wrote on Apr 5, 2006 9:38 AM:

" I think we still should have the Monkey Island because a lot of little kids love th Monkeys. It may cost more but you always could do a cook out or somthing to raise the money. Yes people may think this is a good thing to do but yet they are taking out one of the main attractions. "

Thorn wrote on Apr 5, 2006 9:32 AM:

" Take a drive to Goose Island...now THERE is an Eco-Park!!! "

HLV wrote on Apr 5, 2006 8:19 AM:

" Yes, we are blessed to live in a beautiful area, and perhaps the few who can afford the homes in the hills and on the water can see abundant native wildlife in their back yards. My most common glimpses of native wildlife happen on my way to work, when I see the local animals splattered across Lang Drive after failed attempts to make their way to the other side of the marsh across the road we built through it. "

Possible solutions wrote on Apr 5, 2006 5:48 AM:

" I say incorporate a monkey exhibit into the existing city plan, even if other planned exhibits have to be modified. A board or committee specifically designed for zoo interests should also be created - one member of the Rotary club should be represented on the board and no Hixon Forest Board members should ever sit on the board or committee. City residents should have been surveyed on their opinions before all of this erupted I might add; even citizen input at a public forum would have helped. "

Other Projects? wrote on Apr 5, 2006 4:57 AM:

" It would be interesting to find out what proposed projects the Rotary Club turned down in order to pursue the New Zoo. Tribune reporters, go for it! Find out what goes on in Rotary Club meetings! "

Former Nature Interpreter wrote on Apr 5, 2006 4:47 AM:

" Involved, I see many of the animals you write about on my walks and hikes (in an urban environment). North American wild animals do not have to be locked up in cages. They are all around us if we only take the time to look. I am appalled when I read how Rotary Club members talk about jailing fox, beaver, and other wild creatures I have come across on my adventures. What does that kind of attitude teach our children? What so-called nature lovers got the Rotary Club involved in this mess anyway? Looking back on my days as an interpreter (K through high school students), college teacher, and [urban] park and trail crew member, it's difficult for me to understand why anyone would support the New Zoo plan as it now stands. "

To Rotary raschals wrote on Apr 4, 2006 11:12 PM:

" If you take the monkies away you should be spanked. "

Involved wrote on Apr 4, 2006 10:17 PM:

" Misconceptions. The "EcoPark" title incorporates Hixon Forest, Prairies, Nature Center,Marsh, Myrick Park, all physically connected, creating a 2,000 acre wildlife sanctuary. See animals in the wild? When was the last time you saw a fox, coyote, badger, otter, or snake up close? What about children whose parents don't care? If 30% of students have been in a forest, marsh, or nature trail,(touch a cow?),impressive. Purpose? Create educational opportunities that incorporate natural and educational resources. The "city" can't improve conditions. Hello, taxpayers. The zoo may close, period. Support a "free" attraction that produces no revenue? Pay to swim, or visit the zoo at the EcoPark? 1,990 acres,15 miles of trails, and state of the art ed/enviro center are free. It's not fiscally possible for the "zoo" to always be free. Exotics, really expensive. Have a heart. Poor, old, 30 yr old monkey souls deserve dignity in their last days. Let go. "

LOL wrote on Apr 4, 2006 9:14 PM:

" CP wrote on April 03, 2006 1:30 PM:"First the removal of "Wisconsin" from WWTC, next the monkeys and peacocks from Myrick Park..... What's next? " Perhaps we should take a look at that "space" between the lower-case "a" and upper-case "C" in "La Crosse". It's just too hard to say. Maybe we should change it to "Lacrosse?" Hmmmm... let's spend a few hundred thousand dollars and research this one! "

Noooo!!!!! wrote on Apr 4, 2006 7:57 PM:

" This is utterly horrible news. I don't go to a zoo to see animals from around here; I go to see the monkeys, snakes, and other exotic animals. If anything, the zoo needs more, not less. To whoever suggested this: grow some brains and think about what people really want. "

To: Love the idea,,,we LIKE the boats wrote on Apr 4, 2006 5:45 PM:

" To Love the Idea: Regarding your comment about the old boats. That's one thing special about this park, the same boats are there year after year. I agree the park needs updating, but why remove anything that has made wonderful memories? Many of us probably have pictures of those boats, and our kids do too! Please keep the boats! "

Community Member wrote on Apr 4, 2006 5:32 PM:

" There are many good points on the eco-park, both for and against. If done well, this could be an ecopark and still feature the signature monkeys. I think there would be interest to raise even more money to make it work. Just work the plan to include both. The Current Zoo is outdated and it would be nice to see monkeys or any of the other animals living better in the zoo than in the wild. People are capalbe of great compassion, most people would support more animal friendly Zoo/ecopark. Removing the Monkeys is what drives the opposition to the plan. Lets get everyone on board and keep the monkeys too. Not many people feel that improvments arent needed. "

solution wrote on Apr 4, 2006 4:32 PM:

" I think the solution here is to revamp the existing park, including the monkey island exhibit. The plan the Rotary Club people got fixated on just is not feasible. Nor does that plan incorporate what the people want for their zoo and park. The people of La Crosse should decide what their zoo looks like, not service club members or some outside planner. The missing element in all of this is the input of the residents. Is Myrick Park a People's Park or is it being turned into a Rotary Club Park? "

oh my wrote on Apr 4, 2006 3:58 PM:

" What's next? Are they going to take away those lovely sea birds at riverside park? I hope they don't poison them like they did with those cute pigeons we used to have around town.We used to have muskrats dancing in our backyard until they condemned the neighbors house.Why do we need all of this change? Why don't they put in another outdoor pool,that can be used 3 months a year. "

D wrote on Apr 4, 2006 3:30 PM:

" Myrick Park Zoo really is a sad place. It is in such bad repair and under-funded and under staffed. I geuss it is just like the entire worlds ecosystem "

Go visit. wrote on Apr 4, 2006 2:55 PM:

" Hey, Maryland, go visit Myrick Park. It's clear you haven't been there in a while. It's disgusting and has been for at least ten years. It smells, the animals walk on hot concrete, and live in terribly cramped areas. Not only is it inmumane, it's also boring. I'm not necessarily endorsing this ecopark. I need to know more; but I do support anything that shuts down that pit of dispair. As a resident of La Crosse, I think it's embarrassing. "

looking ahead! wrote on Apr 4, 2006 1:46 PM:

" I have a simple question for all of you who are romanticizing the Myrick Park Zoo- when is the last time you were down there? The Monkeys are sad, the buildings falling apart... my 4 year old even asked me why the animals were so sad! Its time to keep our memories in the past. I, too have fond memories of Myrick Park... memories that are cheapened by the sad state of affairs when I go down there now. It's time for change...this one seems overdue. This city can't sit still to placate the older generation any longer... we'd still have our brown Century Rotary phones if that were the case, and be able to dial only 5 numbers to call someone. It's time to move forward...thise monkeys are as old and tired as the whining about how things used to be! "

no Johnsrud fan wrote on Apr 4, 2006 1:24 PM:

" The mayor having vision? He is a one-term mayor whose true colors are now showing over this zoo issue. Believe me, there are people in La Crosse watching how the mayor has shown such poor leadership in the last few months, including those who voted for him in the last election. "

Carol wrote on Apr 4, 2006 1:22 PM:

" I've oftened thought the Myrick Zoo was so inhumane that it should've been shut down for cruelty to animals. Wild animals don't belong in cages! However if people insist on putting them on display, then there must laws to insure appropriate care,adequate and natural habitat for them. I'd be willing to make a donation to see that they get this. "

Maryland wrote on Apr 4, 2006 1:20 PM:

" I can't believe anyone would even consider getting rid of Myrick Park - It is what LaCrosse is all about. Besides all the bars in LaCrosse what else is there ??? As a child I remember spending many fun times at the park. The monkeys were and always will be the main attraction. I think they just need to renovate and run the park like it needs to be. People need to spend more time as a family and have some laughs. Anyone who thinks it should be changed is probably not a native of the area. Don't do it !!! Save the monkeys !! "

TEAR IT DOWN wrote on Apr 4, 2006 12:35 PM:

" The current condition of the Myrick Park Zoo is an out-right shame! Cramped quarters for example- just take a look at the bear exibit! Why is it even still OK to have animals on EXIBIT anyway?? I agree with Thorn about getting out of La Crosse to "see" how the world works. Stop this caging and in-humane imprisonment of the animals. I say tear-down the Myrick Park Zoo and plant some trees and grass. Allow the natural animals of the area to have THEIR environment back. "

WDF- THINK ABOUT IT! wrote on Apr 4, 2006 11:59 AM:

" People of the La Crosse area-Think about it this is good for the whole Metro area and the the cooperation amongst the Metro area rotary clubs is a true sign of cooperation and leadership. The very people who are complaining are not looking at this from all angles, only from a personal point of view. Things can't be free anymore-the word free does not exist-if we are going to look out for the interest of the future we need to invest just like our schools, and this is just like another school an "Eco School" Thumbs up to the area Rotary Clubs and the Mayor for having the a vision!! "

Out-of-Town Urban Park Historian wrote on Apr 4, 2006 11:01 AM:

" I have been keeping up on the New Zoo Project with great interest. My recommendatios to the Rotary Club: (1) Pull back and ask that the original city plan you are following is modified -- incorporate a monkey exhibit into the plan; (2) Pull the original proponents of this plan out of the limelight -- they are too close to this project and have now gained a sort of psychological ownership of it -- which is not in the best interest of the Rotary Club itself or of any modification of the existing zoo; (3) Choose someone to represent the park project who is well liked by the community and knows how to get along with people and is not argumentative. What's gone on here is that you've crossed "that invisable line" with people who love the zoo, especially the monkeys, and they see you as some sort of usurpers. If you really read through the posted comments here, the monkey theme comes up again and again. Area residents (especially the residents of La Crosse) value the monkey exhibit to no end. It represents stability to them, happiness, and a cultural link to their own childhood. I suspect you (the Rotary Club) inadvertantly made the mistake of angering so many people. Damage control is in order now. I strongly suspect that very little of the negativity one sees here or which has been heard on the street, would be going on if club members and city officials had taken into consideration what the people highly value in their parks, especially their zoo. "

Kayla wrote on Apr 4, 2006 10:51 AM:

" Are there gonna be no more monkeys? Thats the best part. "

Thorn wrote on Apr 4, 2006 10:39 AM:

" TO: "CHUCKLES": Now your "progressive" Liberal tail-feathers are showing. What an absolutely unwarranted judgment call. So if "we" support the Eco-Park we are intelligent, and if "we" disagree with the Eco-Park we are stupid?! Yes you are correct "But then, we are all dumb. Stupid is something we choose to be."...from your reading, it appears you chose "stupid" a long time ago.If you think people "want to see how the world works"; then they should leave LaCrosse and "see" how the world works. "

Shocked wrote on Apr 4, 2006 10:31 AM:

" I am shocked that the Rotary Clubs of La Crescent, Caledonia, and Onalaska could be talked into this. Aren't there enough needs in your own communities that you have to use your time and energy on something the majority of the people of La Crosse obviously don't want? Chalk up another reason not to get involved in a Rotary Club chapter. Lions Club, here I come. "

Former resident wrote on Apr 4, 2006 10:23 AM:

" Joan, As a former resident myself, I won't be sending a red cent to the new zoo fund. What this group has done is bulldozed their way into something that should be controlled by city government and the residents themselves. Maybe the money they've collected so far should be used to update what is now called Monkey Island. Perhaps the Park Board could name the new exhibit, "ROTARY PRIMATE ISLAND" After all, that is what the leadership of the Rotary Club is after anyway, recognition for themselves. It sure looks that way anyway. "

Julie J wrote on Apr 4, 2006 10:08 AM:

" To Chuckles: Maybe I took what you said wrong, but I was highly offended by your statement - "…the NASCAR types want to see the monkeys, the enlightened and imaginative want to see how the world works. But then, we are all dumb…" What exactly does that mean? I know plenty of people who love NASCAR and love the zoo. I myself do not like NASCAR, it bores me, and I am educated and continue to educate myself every day. I have lived here almost my entire life and the reason for wanting minimal change at Myrick is because I feel like all of our history is being uprooted in the flash of an eye. So, you may consider yourself "enlightened and imaginative," where I consider you rude and obviously very closed minded or you wouldn't be putting people down by what they write here or the things they are interested in. By the way, I like karaoke, fishing, and reading a good book; what does that make me? "

Love the idea wrote on Apr 4, 2006 10:03 AM:

" I am very disheartened by the negativity that people are showing about this new adventure. Being a science teacher and enviromental educator, I know many young people couldn't even tell you what a otter looks like much less a muskrat. I have taken hundreds of students on nature hikes through the marsh and Hixon Forest and I bet maybe 20 or so kids have seen an otter at a distance swimming and playing. NEVER up close! Kids love animals no matter what they are! When was the last time you were at myrick park? How many exotic animals do you really see besides the monkeys and the peacocks? Most of them are animals that are still going to be there! They have the barnyard area so that is nothing that is going to change. Have you been there and seen how run down everything is? I remember as a child how exciting it was to go there. Nothing has been done or updated in 40 yrs that I know of. Even the toy boats are the SAME ones! Money needs to be invested in Myric Park and who is going to invest in it? One of the things I am very excited for is the education building that will replace Hixon Forest Nature Center. Have you been there when there is 75 kids in there? There isn't enough room but they make due with what is available to them. KUDOS to the Nature Center. We need something for environmental education. Even Norskadalen has a larger nature center than LaCrosse does. We need to invest some money into improving that area. Please support this new adventure that the Rotary Club is going for because something needs to be done. You know I bet if they would have just gone forward and remodeled it without changing the name or saying they were going to remove the monkeys no one would have probably noticed. LaCrosse OPEN YOUR EYES! This is to only benefit the future of our children! "

Sam wrote on Apr 4, 2006 9:54 AM:

" What Parks and Rec really needs is money to fix up Memorial and Forest Hill pools. They leak and are drained to the marsh. They demand too many chemicals being drained into the marsh--bad for the envirnonment. We need pools that aren't 36 degrees in the summer. The zoo may be ok for the time being. Kid's Coulee could use some repairs (and some grammer correction LOL) Last summer bathrooms in two parks were locked more that they were opened. There is a huge ragweed problem at Hooska park. We could use more gardeners to pull it up before is blooms. Fix what's broken--The zoo isn't broken. "

Joan Roberts wrote on Apr 4, 2006 9:37 AM:

" As a former resident, I think this is a fabulous idea, and I will be sending a check today. "

Chuckles wrote on Apr 4, 2006 8:19 AM:

" The cultural clash continues. The NASCAR types want to see the monkeys, the enlightened and imaginitive want to see how the world works. But then, we are all dumb. Stupid is something we choose to be. "

Adam Burman wrote on Apr 4, 2006 7:46 AM:

" People go to a zoo to see exotic animals not everyday animals. This is a dumb idea. Why pay admission , the current zoo is free. "

Sarah Bierce wrote on Apr 4, 2006 7:37 AM:

" I think this is a great idea and great for the community. I look forward to this refreshing change. "

a question for Mayor Johnsrud wrote on Apr 4, 2006 5:43 AM:

" Mayor Johnsrud, is the Rotary Club now the shadow park board of the City of La Crosse? People can talk about Pat Zielke all they want, but as mayor, he would never allow some special interest group like this to destroy something of great value to the people of the city. The man knew how to "put on the brakes" when he had to and he honestly had the best interest of the people at heart. He's got a pretty good legacy. If you don't step in and assert some leadership in this mess, you are going to be a one-term mayor. People in the next election will remember your indeciveness and unwillingness to stand up for the people's wishes. "

Update our zoo wrote on Apr 4, 2006 5:36 AM:

" Why don't we look at Como Park in St. Paul, MN for an example? They run a beautiful, updated free zoo for the children to enjoy. Don't take away the fun for the children; improve it, make it better! "

Jan wrote on Apr 4, 2006 5:23 AM:

" This mess that area Rotary clubs have gotten themselves into has damaged the reputation and integrity of this national organization. "

Public Relations 101 wrote on Apr 4, 2006 5:20 AM:

" To the Rotary Club members who fell for this new zoo proposal: I think you and your leadership should go back to school and take a course in Public Relations 101. You've charged into something before looking at the consequences. You've crossed an invisable line with the residents who do not want your new zoo, at least the way it is proposed right now. What YOU think is so great for the City of La Crosse is not what the residents believe is good for the city. Instead of the fundraising you all talk about perhaps you should do a little "friendraising" instead. So far, you've managed to anger the residents by threatening to take something away that is near and dear to them (and quite frankly, has been for many years)and totally disregarded the residents (your dismissive and arrogant attitude in all of this has angered even the formerly staunchest Rotary Club supporters). What we have here is a classic case of "group think" in an organization -- charging head on into something and trying to convince the rest of us (including Rotary Club members) that this is such a great thing and if we don't believe in it or question some aspect of it, well, we just must be plain stupid! The planning of any park needs citizen input, NOT just input from a service club whose leadership will not admit that they did not consider the consequences of their actions. When will Mayor Johnsrud, the Common Council, and the Park Board actually stand up for the people of the City of La Crosse, against this overly zealous, dismissive group of individuals known as "local Rotary Clubs"? "

monkey love wrote on Apr 4, 2006 2:04 AM:

" A zoo without monkeys is not a zoo of any kind. If the monkeys are put in retirement at ALTERA, be prepared to be ripped off. "

watch out we might improve something wrote on Apr 3, 2006 10:29 PM:

" First the monkeys and peacocks,what next? The sea gulls at riverside.Wake up people.The Rotary club is not full of a bunch of me me egomaniacs.They want to enhance our community.I'm glad they will be charging to get in.Some of the people that won't pay,are the ones that would trash it. "

Concerned La Crosse property owner wrote on Apr 3, 2006 9:31 PM:

" I have lived in this city for over 50 years now and even thou the parks name is Myrick Park many people refer to it as monkey Island which should give our city fathers an idea what the main attraction is at the park. If the rotary club wants to raise money maybe they should consider raising money to improve the facilities we currently have. We have a beautiful County Park just a few miles south of La Crosse that at any given day you can see most of the native animals we have in this area in the wild in their natural habitats. You know no matter what the city of La Crosse government gets involved with will in one way or another gets messed up and cost the tax payers big bucks. What I would like to know is where the money is going to come from to maintain this new ecopark including the upkeep, man hours, trail upkeep and all the other related expenses that the city will occur in this park. The shape Myrick Park zoo is in should make it evident the park department should not be in involved in a zoo and should be charged with cruelty to animals, what a disgrace for La Crosse the condition the zoo is in. Maybe the park department should concentrate more on family activities like the zoo, the beaches, and the quality of the lawns in our parks instead of focusing on the baseball diamonds which turn into nothing but a drunk-fest for many of the players and spectators. I refuse to take my family to watch these ballgames because of the drunkenness and profanity at the games not to mention the shape the restrooms are in. most of the restrooms are relatively new but the shape they are in either from vandalism and lack of repair and maintenance I would not let my dog enter them. Maybe this city needs a lot of new blood at City Hall that will listen to the majority of the taxpayers instead of a few elite groups. Some of these special interest groups and local government councilman and department heads need to look at themselves and take a look at what they are turning this community into. If local government can not run La Crosse efficiently may be we should go with a city manager and subcontract all city services out to private contractors that would have to perform efficiently because everything would be out on bid. Maybe La Crosse should sell off half of our park land instead of creating new parks so they have the money to take care and maintain the parks we currently have. Not only saving tax dollars, by having fewer acres of parks to maintain, but the park land that would be sold could become taxable real estate to help of relief the burden of taxes of property owners in La Crosse that do pay real estate taxes. "

Better Idea wrote on Apr 3, 2006 9:00 PM:

" I think that what would make everyone feel heard about this topic would be if it were put up for public discussion or a vote. I would be willing to get petitions for keeping/improving the current zoo. I know my son is completely intrigued by our summer outings to Myrick Park Zoo, although it may not have the best to offer. But I believe he would yawn at the aspect of looking at muskrats, geese, etc., which we go see all of the time at Goose Island, Myrick trails, and anywhere else. I sincerely believe that this is a very important decision for the people of La Crosse, and therefore should be made by the people of La Crosse. I would even be willing to bet that if the prospect of a real "zoo" would be presented to citizens as an option, people would be willing to contribute donations to help see it happen. "

Ligthen up, get a grip. wrote on Apr 3, 2006 7:35 PM:

" Get lives, people. This is a good thing. Why is it that innovation of any kind is met with such stubborness? The monkies are better off in a GOOD place for cryin' out loud. And, how often do your kids ACTUALLY get to see Wisconsin animals up close - not just a passing glance on a country road? Lighten up, get a grip. "

disgusted with the area wrote on Apr 3, 2006 4:28 PM:

" It is a shame that a few powerful people in the Lacrosse area control so much. This area needs the zoo and not an eco park. It is no fun to go look at barnyard animals for children, they want to see the exotics. Spend the 4.8 million and do it right with nice displays, nice exotic animals, a decent concession area and people will come. Currently people don't come to the zoo because of its run down status. It hasn't been updated decently in 25 years. St. Louis has a free zoo that is packed all the time and a childrens zoo that you must pay to get into. They regularly raise money and have a beautiful facility. If Rotary wants to help, then raise the money, and donate it to the city to be used to significantly update the zoo. Then the city needs to step up and make it a priority of the parks department to continue raising money through local radiothons or other means. This could be a beautiful public project, but it will be destroyed by private enterprise. I won't go take my kids to the eco park if the monkeys are gone, but I would pay a buck or two in order for my daughter to see them. As for anyone thinking LaCrosse can't afford it, think again. This is one of the more affluent places in the state. "

interesting? wrote on Apr 3, 2006 4:26 PM:

" If they end up taking the monkeys out of the park, residents can then travel 3/4 of a mile west to city hall they have plenty in the building to watch. p.s. bring shelless peanuts we pay enough overtime!!! "

Local Rotarian wrote on Apr 3, 2006 4:16 PM:

" I'm not sure where anyone got the idea that Rotarians are a bunch of "big shots". Last time I looked around at a club meeting I was surrounded by some pretty down-to-earth folks of average means who just happen to believe in "Service Above Self" (our motto), and who are willing to put in the necessary time and effort to accomplish great things -- like Rotary Lights, Kids Coulee and the world-wide erradication of polio. As I understand it, the monkeys residing at Myrick Park today are largely the same monkeys we all enjoyed watching as kids. They are "geriatric" by monkey standards and cannot be replaced -- at least not by reputable means -- because it would be too costly and because our zoo is not accredited (and in its current state could never hope to be). Please don't kid yourself that the monkeys, even in their prime, were living a great life in our community. With only about 5 months a year warm enough for them to be outside, they've spent well over half their lives caged inside a dark, cramped building. Their stay here has been great for us, but not so great for the monkeys. Remember how as kids we all bought miniature turtles at Kmart and kept them in little plastic aquariums on the kitchen table? One day we learned that keeping these turtles in our homes posed a serious health hazzard to us, and we knew from experience it was bad news for the turtles. It's the same with keeping exotic animals in our community -- we didn't know (or stop to think) about the bigger picture years ago, but now that we know the truth, it's time to do something more humane and more appropriate at our local zoo. Having watched the otters at both the Duluth or Dubuque aquariums, I believe they are at least as entertaining as our beloved monkeys, who have certainly earned their retirement. Finally, please know that volunteers and city officials did significant research prior to arriving at the EcoPark concept. It wasn't something somebody dreamed up on a whim, and it offers tremendous benefits to our community. I hope you will take time to learn more about the EcoPark project and support this worthy effort. Thank you. "

To: Better Idea wrote on Apr 3, 2006 3:18 PM:

" I agree wholeheartedly with 'Better Idea'. La Crosse is known for it's beauty & nature. A fee will most likely decrease attendance. "

Jimmy wrote on Apr 3, 2006 2:51 PM:

" Why would someone want to go to a zoo to see animals they can see anywhere else in the area? Isn't the point of a zoo to expose people to exotic animals they would not otherwise encounter? If the city does this, they should expect to see a large drop in attendance. "

Embarassed of Myrick Park wrote on Apr 3, 2006 2:45 PM:

" Thank GOD this is hapenning. To call Myrick Park in its current state a Zoo is laughable at best. A bunch of rusty cages with beat down animals that wouldn't know what to do with actual habitat if they were ever placed in it. The only purpose it serves in its current state is as a lesson to children about how NOT to treat animals. I'm not crazy about the ecopark idea either. It just seems kind of pointless given how established and well maintained the marsh and Hixon forest already are. I would rather see this money go to create a REAL zoo in the La Crosse area, something we could all be proud to show our chldren. But, "Myron" made a good point. The money in question is controlled by a small group of people with their own agenda to forward. ANYTHING is better than the Myrick park zoo (not) in its current state. "

To Reginald wrote on Apr 3, 2006 1:53 PM:

" The cost is $4.8 million, not 50 million. Over $1.0 million has already been raised. "

munkeez wrote on Apr 3, 2006 1:41 PM:

" y iz duh zoo takin hour munkeez frum uz. wee deserve too c dem munkeez every dai eye tell u whut "

CP wrote on Apr 3, 2006 1:30 PM:

" First the removal of "Wisconsin" from WWTC, next the monkeys and peacocks from Myrick Park..... What's next? "

Rebecca wrote on Apr 3, 2006 12:26 PM:

" I definately agree that Myrick park needs up grades but KEEP THE MONKEYS!!!! A better Zoo would be great - w/ exotic animals included! Don't take away the tradition of so many families. "

Munchkinusnavy wrote on Apr 3, 2006 12:21 PM:

" Let'd have a referendum on the Eco Center. I support the animals but not the way they are used. "

Better Idea wrote on Apr 3, 2006 12:00 PM:

" I agree that the current conditions of the animals and their habitats at the Myrick Park Zoo are sad. But what would make more sense to me is for the city (or Rotary club) to pay for and build a better zoo, instead of using the money for more nature observations. We already have plenty of areas in La Crosse, Onalaska, and surrounding areas to view nature and get fresh air and exercise. Why hasn't anyone suggested building a zoo similar to Henry Vilas is Madison? We currently have to drive at least 2 hours to see a decent zoo, and I think a larger, better kept zoo would bring in loads of visitors from southern Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin. I also feel that a new zoo, or this Ecopark, should be free or at least have a VERY minimal fee. There are very few inexpensive or free activies for large or low income families to do in the La Crosse area as it is. "

Lou wrote on Apr 3, 2006 11:23 AM:

" The reason people take their childrent down to Myrick Park Zoo is because of the monkeys. I think it's about time the Rotary Club and its allies think about what the vast majority of the people want and not what club leadership thinks is best for the common people (you know, the ones who aren't the big shots of La Crosse and don't belong to your service club). This nonsense of a new zoo is not needed and will only benefit a few people, including the Rotary Club leadership who most assuredly will put this great accomplishment on their resumes. Maybe a boycott of any area business who funnels money to this nonsense is called for. "

former Lax resident wrote on Apr 3, 2006 10:55 AM:

" Sorry about forgetting Mr. D's. We used to go to the Concordia every sat. night (loved the jolly swiss boys) and afterwards there was a pizza place that we would go to. Possibly where Mr D's is now. We would hang out at several parks, monkey park being our favorite. Where i now live we have no place to go to take the kids. The parks close at dusk, at the bars where they have dancing kids are not allowed because they serve drinks, even at the sportbars kids are not allowed after 6 pm. Here if the kids have cars they hang out in mall parking lots and church parking lots until the cops come around to kick them out. "

supporter wrote on Apr 3, 2006 10:18 AM:

" I am so glad to see something is finally going to be done about the zoo. Yes we all have fond memories of "Monkey Park", but I have to say as I matured and really took a good look at the deplorable and very sad conditions esp. for the monkeys & bear I could hardley bring myself to take my niece and nephews there. Those poor critters certainly need to put into retirement. We have a duty to teach our children about our indigenous animals and their habitat and respect for the environment. I believe there are many other ways to see and learn about exoctic animals, try National Geographic, or the Discovery Channel. The zoo as it is is an embarassment to this city. Way TO GO!! "

Save the Monkey! wrote on Apr 3, 2006 5:15 AM:

" That's the biggest reason I take my little girl to the park. She loves the monkeys! "

Reginald wrote on Apr 3, 2006 4:45 AM:

" This new zoo project is not realistic. Sure, Myrick Park Zoo needs a facelift, but certainly not 50 million dollars worth. It shocks me how an admired organization like the Rotary Club would ever get involved in something like this. Not only have you angered old time residents who want to retain the historical integrity of their zoo and park, but you (and your nature center task masters) have aroused the indignation of animal lovers, local wildlife watchers and conservationsists, fically responsible voters, and the anti-Johnsrud crowd who have found another reason to rid La Crosse of its current mayor in the next election. I can't but help think that local Rotary Club members are contemplating replacing leaders who got local clubs involved in such a deal. (And I also can't help but think that certain Common Council members see a real chance to replace Mayor Johnsrud with one of their own in the next election.) "

to a former Lax Resident wrote on Apr 3, 2006 12:01 AM:

" No...be more observent, the next place the city is trying to oust is the ONE AND ONLY Mr. D's "

good idea wrote on Apr 2, 2006 10:16 PM:

" An eco-park project has so many possibilities for this community! Let's build on our beautiful natural area, help educate our children about our local biology, and provide a place where families can have a good time hiking, biking, and enjoying the marsh area. Kudos to the planners! "

L wrote on Apr 2, 2006 9:09 PM:

" There is no doubt in my mind that the zoo needs work. The animals are kept in conditions that are so sad and lacking. As much as I think it would be wonderful to keep the monkeys something would have to be sone for them. The winter home (and the island) would be boring for a family dog let alone monkeys. If we can't afford to keep them we should have them sent some place were they will be happier. As far as having animals native to the area I think it would be a wonderful idea. Yes, we can see deer at goose island and fox or woodchucks run across the back yard occationally, but wouldn't it be great to actually see them close up for a longer period of time? I do. And a petting area would be wonderful. Kids and even some adults (like me) would enjoy this. And a small fee might be ok if we actually get to see more and better than we do now. Could we find a way to base fees on income? Local agencies give out tickets to the circus every year to those who are in need, can they do the same with the zoo? But please DO NOT get rid of the boat rides. "

you said a mouthful wrote on Apr 2, 2006 9:07 PM:

" here here,put the student housing in myrick.Then they could leave west avenue alone.It's so nice to be able to high five someone when you are driving down a state highway. "

Local Resident wrote on Apr 2, 2006 9:00 PM:

" Just to clarify and answer a few questions raised by some folks here, there is no possibility the Myrick Eco Center, Hixon grounds, etc. would ever be used for anything other than a place for animals and learning and enjoyment for families. UWL has any number of projects pending at any given time but there has never been any suggestion or discussion of building a dorm, athlectic field or anything other than a zoo and nature center on these grounds. There are no "big shots" from UWL pushing such an agenda but there are several terrific people from UWL helping with the various committees - - but only with the best interest of the greater community involved. Also, the grounds will continue to have hours during certain days (which have not yet been decided)where there would be no charge for anyone that wishes to come and see the many attractions. And, as the article pointed out, the education center building will always be free to the public. No one has thanked or asked but we should do so) the local veternarians who have volunteered their time and effort in an attempt to care for these animals in the past without being paid for any of their good work. Next time you see your local vet ask them whether exotic animals belong in our local weather and what issues it may pose to try and keep them here through our Wisconsin winters. "

a former lax resident wrote on Apr 2, 2006 8:45 PM:

" I cannot beleive that there will no longer be monkey's at monkey park. I no longer live in LaCrosse, but for years when I come home to visit I have taken my kids to monkey park. The way things are changing there it is almost like not being home, Mary E. Sawyer is gone, Sportswiew bar (by goose island) is gone, the 5 mile house is gone, the drive in is gone, what goes next the concordia dance hall. progress is great but along with progress comes nothing for families to do and crime. "

corgi wrote on Apr 2, 2006 6:50 PM:

" BRAVO JULIE "

oldtimer wrote on Apr 2, 2006 6:49 PM:

" I agree with most of the commentators, if we have money to spend, upgrade Monkey Island.. I wonder if some 'big shot' has shown an interest in that location for more student housing>>??? "

J R wrote on Apr 2, 2006 6:03 PM:

" I am orginally from La Crosse and came back for a family gathering, bringing two of my grown children and two grandchildren. It was nice to take them there and they enjoyed themselves alot. They also enjoyed seeing the monkeys, I like monkey island and would hate to see it go. I did notice that the animal area was not in the best condition and do hope that it will be fixed up. I just hope that you do not ruin it by making people pay to much to enjoy what has been free for so long. "

Stephanie Severson wrote on Apr 2, 2006 5:22 PM:

" Hopefully those of you who have expressed your opinions will be checking back to see what others have written. There are a lot of good comments, and a lot of concern for what happend to the Myrick Park Zoo. When thinking about we have verses what Madison has in the Henry Villas Zoo, don't forget that Madison has a population of almost 220, 000 people with a metro market size of nearly 590,000 and is considered the 85th sized television market. La Crosse tips the scales at a little over 51,000. I think the idea here is to what we can do with the area available and with the resources available and do it well. Sometimes what that means is that you have to focus on something specific and do the best job you can with what you have. That might mean exotic animals just don't fit the budget. This needs to be an ecopark that the community can afford and fiscally sustain or eventually it will wind up just as it is. YUCK! Many suggested that if they wanted to see animals of the northern territory, they would just head out to the woods. Hopefully they won't run into black bears or bobcats, but maybe they will catch the tip of the beaver's tail before it drives under water. I'm not sure about otters, but I haven't seen any hanging around Petibone beach? These are animals of the northern territory that will have an environmentally friendly place to live at the new ecopark. Not everyone has the fortune or the ability to head out into the wild to locate these animals. Believe it or not, not every kid in the Coulee Region has been up close and personal with barnyard animals either. La Crosse is blessed with many things. Having a marsh and forest in the middle of the city are two things we tend to take for granted. The saying you get what you pay for rings true in this case doesn't it? We have a free zoo that most people would say is NOT one of La Crosse's jewel. We have the chance to create something really great for our community. But that's what it takes...community. Think back to advice maybe your father gave you... "Don't build a house you can't afford to live in." Then think about what your mother tried to teach you..."Don't complain about dinner if you didn't take the time to help make it." Let's think positively and get this done! "

Seriously???? wrote on Apr 2, 2006 5:09 PM:

" Pay???? Really???? To see local animals. Has someone on that comittee lost their mind? I would rather pay $60 in gas and the entrance fee to go up to the cities and see a real Zoo. Who goes to the park right now to see the Deer? Not me!!!!I mainly go to see the Monkeys, Bears and other Exotic Animals. If you're going to make us pay at least come up with something exciting. "

Julie J wrote on Apr 2, 2006 4:35 PM:

" Ever since I can remember, my brother, sister, and I and would walk or ride bikes while my dad wheeled along from French Island over to Monkey Park (Myrick Park, but no one local called it that). Our favorites were always the monkeys, especially at feeding time (remember when they would try to reach for food that went into the water without touching the water?), and the prairie dogs (what happened to them?). When my son was small, my best friend and I started taking our kids to Monkey Park to share our childhood memories with them and, again, the monkeys and prairie dogs were always the favorite. I have been feeling sad the last few years because of the condition the park has fallen into, so the fact that they are going to renovate is a wonderful thing that I am backing 100%. We have missed the prairie dogs and, yes, our poor monkeys have grown incredibly bored with what they have, but I just truly wish they could find a way to enhance the park while keeping the monkeys as a special attraction, maybe putting the giant goldfish back into the water surrounding the monkeys (almost forgot about them). The last time their outdoor area was redone, they seemed happy again for a while. Maybe they just need a change of scenery every once in a while to keep them happy. I can't imagine going to Monkey Park and having no monkeys! My last request is that I hope if you HAVE to charge a fee, that it be as low as possible or on a donation basis. I think you would make more money if you asked for donations at the entrance and maybe change the reason for the donation every week (CMN, Family Resource Center, Salvation Army, etc). One of the reasons we always took our kids there was because we were very poor young families with lots of kids (5-6 kids at any given time). When you attach a fee, it puts yet another limit as to where the already struggling families in our area can take their children for the day. Having it by donation only might bring in more than you think. When you put the word donation in there, people may actually give more than you are asking, especially if it is for their favorite cause. Anyway, thank you for considering fixing up our beloved Monkey Park, but please, please try to keep the monkeys and keep fees as low as possible. Just a last thought that I always wished I could express to someone. Some of the enclosures make it hard to see the animals; Bucky the Badger in his current enclosure is a very good example and also the big bucks behind everything. We always want to get a good look at them, but they are far away or hiding (I have met people who didn’t even know there were huge bucks at the park), so maybe you could keep that in mind during your renovation. It may be true that these creatures live in our area and can be seen in some peoples’ back yards, but I personally have never seen a badger up close safely or most of the animals in the park for that matter. Changing the animals is not such a big deal to me, as long as they find a way to keep our favorites, the ones that may draw people. Thanks for taking the time to read about my memories, ideas, and wishes for our beloved park. "

Amy wrote on Apr 2, 2006 2:50 PM:

" Oh my! Thank God something is finally being done about Myrick. I haven't gone there in at least 5 years because it just made me SICK! The conditions that those animals were living in were absolutly horrible. That poor bear especially - all he could do was pace the tiny little concrete cage. It was just disgusting and disheartening to see all of the animals (monkeys included) in such an unnatural environment. The state that it is in right now is a total embarrassment to La Crosse. "

Dean Dickinson wrote on Apr 2, 2006 2:33 PM:

" Free? So how do you maintain a facility like the proposed eco-park for free? The Brown County "zoo" has upwards of 225,000 visitors a year with fees ranging from $2 to $4 and certain opportunities during each week for "no charge" visits. The deplorable state of the present zoo is directly related to the fact that in tough times the city has not been willing to spend the required money to maintain, much less update, the zoo. So...thanks to the folks who are trying to create something that is an asset to the community and something that we can all be proud of. "

Put it to a vote! wrote on Apr 2, 2006 2:21 PM:

" Mentioning the Henry Vilas Zoo is exactly right! They know what they are doing there and that is also why I take my kids there every year. Please let LaCrosse residents have a say and put this to a vote! It is only the right thing to do "

Patrick wrote on Apr 2, 2006 1:33 PM:

" One of my fondest memories fo growing up in La Crosse was the time we spent at "Monkey Island Park" enjoying family outings, the wading pool, school picnics oand of course the monkeys. I would hope the "powers to be' would look carefully at keeping the monkeys as part of the new ecopark. We can always go for a hike and see native Wisconsin widelife, but we'd have to go to somewhere like Costa Rica to see Monkeys in their natural habitat. I think the Monkeys are as much a part of the history of the park as the Hixson House is to the the history of the city of la crosse. "

Harold wrote on Apr 2, 2006 12:18 PM:

" I would hope that the citizens of La Crosse will be allowed to have input in the zoo changes. While change is needed I would hate to see the people of La crosse left out of the mix. "

Agree that something needs to change wrote on Apr 2, 2006 11:39 AM:

" I do not disagree that something needs to change with our zoo. I also understand that we are not Madison. If we were, our money would be spent more wisely. Why can't some of the money make a better enclosure for the monkeys so they can stay??? "

Oh my wrote on Apr 2, 2006 11:26 AM:

" People are always complaining that Lax. isn't progressing enough. Well now we have a chance to do something GREAT, and people still complain about it. Come up with a reason for another drunkfest and it passes with flying colors.But when something like this comes along,all the hangovers start squalking.This is something that would attract many people to our town. It may not open another bar,and isn't it sad that more bars seem to be the only progress some people want to see for our GREAT town. A sign on the interstate,for the shrine might get a few extra people in town,but if they are coming from the east and can read a map,they will take 162 and never touch La Crosse. Wouldn't it be nice to have another attraction to draw them here.The idea that Lax. is a place to party til you puke,needs to change. "

confused?!? wrote on Apr 2, 2006 11:24 AM:

" I dont understand this at all! I mean if I wanted to see a otter, wouldnt i go find a river? But a monkey? I am almost positive that I would have to go in search of one! I remember going to "monkey park" and looking at all the animals that I coulnt see elsewheres, but now its going to be pointless. And why would I pay to see these WI animals, when i can go into the woods and look around??? "

R A wrote on Apr 2, 2006 10:33 AM:

" If you are going to have a zoo, it is all about the animals and the living conditions. How did the Monkeys survive all these years?? Get them in a safe and natural place. I think you should be able to raise enough money through donations and benifits to keep it going without a charge. La Crosse has a great area there and it is good to hear something is being done. You have trees planted in memory of someone how about a building in memory of. There are wealthy people who will come forward for their beloved city! "

Kristi Leis wrote on Apr 2, 2006 10:32 AM:

" I agree that the zoo needs to be renovated. However, for someone who can't afford to take their kids to the zoo elsewhere, it will be very sad to not be able to take them to this zoo because there will be a cost involved. My kids love seeing the monkeys. That is their favorite part of that zoo. They spend most of our time there watching the monkeys. Please don't take them away. "

Bob wrote on Apr 2, 2006 10:11 AM:

" Big Kid & Myron both wrote about not getting rid of the monkeys; look again. The breed of monkeys are different now then they were a few years ago. The "real" fun breed has already been taken away. Shame. "

Frank wrote on Apr 2, 2006 10:02 AM:

" I really hope we can have a nice squirrel ecohabitat. These funny little guys are fun to watch. In the La Crosse area we have these cool black squirrels that many visitors are amazed to see. I think we should spend at least a million on the squirrel habitat. Great tourisum. Though I admit it may not be all that popular with the locals. How about field mice. What can be done to help the negative attitude of people toward these furry little guys. They are around us all the time. Sadly we never get to observe them living thier lives, raising families, and doing day to day activities. It would be inexpensive to build, maintain, and populate. If it would save just one mouse's life it would be worth it. We would probably be the only zoo, I mean eek-o-park with a mouse habitat in the midwest, or maybe America. "

Sandy wrote on Apr 2, 2006 9:36 AM:

" I think it so odd that the Rotary clubs of the La Crosse area took it upon themselves -- with prodding from the nature center people -- to force this upon the people of La Crosse. Did any of you characters ever consider what the residents wanted? Did you ever ask their input? Well, of course not. And Mayor Johnsrud gets himself involved in this -- another reason to remove the ma