Republicans are funny. wrote on Jun 21, 2006 9:14 AM:
" Republicans are so far right they're nearly fascist. "
DLB wrote on Jun 21, 2006 9:13 AM:
" Mara-ja-WANNA! You bet!! "
Get over it! wrote on Jun 21, 2006 8:42 AM:
" Onalaska has had this same ordinace for many years and you never get a ticket.It is up to the arresting officer, the D.A. wants as many convictions as they can get. People of LaCrosse you just got played a fool! The people who are going to smoke weed will do it regardless of what any city board does or does not say. Smoke on! "
Attn: Milwaukee Reader wrote on Jun 20, 2006 5:55 PM:
" Thank you for bringing up enemas. How is there a place for that in this discussion? Just goes to show how dim-witted you really are.
Besides, your city smells like a bucket of enema aftermath! "
General Response wrote on Jun 20, 2006 5:23 PM:
" 1. Of course the DA and chief of police are going to come out against this. I would be political suicide (these ARE elected positions) for prosecution and law enforcement to do otherwise. 2. To "clarifications please": The "carrier medium" (brownies) would be counted in the weight if you are charged federally, i.e. LSD on paper or baking soda in crack. I don't know whether this would be the case here. 3. To "OPINION response part 2": "I can't imagine a pothead holding down a job or even being presentable enough to get a job." This is the one of the most absurd and naieve things I have ever heard. "
The rest of the story wrote on Jun 20, 2006 4:28 PM:
" Excellent, glad to see you agree. Republicans today are what Democrats used to be. Democrats are so far left, they are almost Socialists. "
My thoughts: wrote on Jun 20, 2006 4:14 PM:
" GOD made weed, man made alcohol. Who do you trust??? "
Dr. Leary wrote on Jun 20, 2006 3:45 PM:
" As a proffesional doctor I can say that pot is a gateway drug...to fun! Just kidding! Seriously though, find a big screen TV, a copy of The Matrix, and some sweet leaf and tell me that this pot ordinance is a bad thing. "
Republicans are funny. wrote on Jun 20, 2006 2:27 PM:
" Republicans use to be for STATES RIGHTS TO GOVERN. Now they want to make FEDERAL LAWS on marriage, on abortion, on prohibitions, on taxes, on law enforcement. The fact that they are so insanely loyal to something that has deteriorated into its own opposite is comical.
The republican party has changed so much in our lifetime that anyone who still is republican has either changed their mind about everything, or is not paying attention. "
To Milwaukee Reader wrote on Jun 20, 2006 2:19 PM:
" Your comments are welcome, but your name is very deceptive. Everyone knows that Milwaukee Reader is an oxymoron. "
A Milwaukee Reader wrote on Jun 20, 2006 1:27 PM:
" Between your meth lab problems in the area and your pot smokers........if the world ever needs an enema they should come to LaCrosse to give it! "
oops wrote on Jun 20, 2006 1:09 PM:
" To, wrong person. Meant to be a reply to 'rest of the story, my oops. Dim witted? Nah "
The rest of the story wrote on Jun 20, 2006 1:03 PM:
" (Andrea Richmond, Jai Johnson, Roger Plesha, Lyell Montgomery, Donald Bina, Brian Kapanke and Jeff Schroeder) all were absent. If one of these is your supervisor, and you don't like the way this turned out, tell your supervisor the next time they miss a meeting, you'll ask for their resignation! "
The rest of the story wrote on Jun 20, 2006 1:00 PM:
" Horne and Weissenberger are NOT Republicans. They don't stand for any of the things the Republican party was founded on. Please do not insult the "party of Lincoln." "
Republicans are funny. wrote on Jun 20, 2006 10:41 AM:
" I was responding to "the rest of the story." How did you get that I thought it was a bad decision from what I wrote? Maybe you misunderstand the decision itself. I think you may be dim witted. "
To; repubs are funny wrote on Jun 20, 2006 10:02 AM:
" Get a life, of course the DA and sheriff want to keep everything illegal ... that is their bread and butter, duh. Open your mind a tad. This is the first good decision the board has made in a long time. "
Republicans are funny. wrote on Jun 20, 2006 9:52 AM:
" Republicans yell freedom at the top of their lungs, but they fight it at every turn. They fight the freedom of choice, the freedom of what we put in our bodies, the freedom of sexual preference, the freedom of religion (unless it's christian), and now the freedom of privacy (Patriot Act.) They wave the flag like it's a symbol of what it is to be American. I wish people would start waving the Constitution instead. "
The rest of the story wrote on Jun 20, 2006 8:02 AM:
" These 15 (Sharon Hampson, Margaret Wood, Jill Billings, Leon Pfaff, Keith Belzer, Maureen Freedland, Tom Rauk, Jason Gillett, Robert Keil, Donald F. Meyer, Tara Johnson, Vicki Burke, Steve Doyle, Joe Bilskemper and Brad Pfaff) need to go. We can recall them right along with the Mayor, and save us some money. The DA and the Sheriff were against this, but then our board members really never did listen to "knowledgeable" people anyway. "
Act 97 wrote on Jun 20, 2006 12:54 AM:
" Who will be laughing when you dopers get arrested under Act 97. Just wait and see. There will be more arrests because you liberals got a plus in your book. "
To Scooter: wrote on Jun 19, 2006 7:13 PM:
" Yes please! "
2nd OPINION wrote on Jun 19, 2006 3:18 PM:
" I would have completely disagreed with everything that "Opinion" said until I read the retorts. Take some english classes and learn how to write a sentence, kids, or no matter how right you may be, you will be dismissed as lazy and stupid.
However, I will say that just because something makes you stupid does not mean it should be illegal. If that were true they would have to remove FOXNews and Maury Povich from our airwaves. "
Doctors and Police Chiefs wrote on Jun 19, 2006 3:03 PM:
" Look through these photos and please note, what the person does or did as a profession ... PhD, lawyer, actor (tommy chong), etc etc etc http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6903 "
TB ... wrote on Jun 19, 2006 2:33 PM:
" good points, ;)
I agree, legal or not, people (any age) are going to get high whether it be smokin a joint, or crackin a beer, whatever. Responsibility should be what is pushed in DARE or any program. To think you are going to stop them ... that aint gonna happen. Responsible drinkers/smokers are not really problem drinkers/smokers ...but... it doesn't take much to cross that line. Once that line is crossed you will be put in 'the system'. Be responsible no matter what you do! "
To; tb wrote on Jun 19, 2006 2:25 PM:
" Right, not legalized, decriminalized (small amt) ... either way, it's a step in right direction. "
tb continued wrote on Jun 19, 2006 1:56 PM:
" the "kids" that will be "slapped on the hand" for simple possession, more than likely don't care whether they get a slap on the hand or a night in jail. Let's just face reality here, kids and adults alike are going to smoke marijuana, legal or not legal and there is nothing that any of us can do about it. Just like drinking, teenagers are going to get every thrill out of drinking and smoking, they don't think of the long term effects the drugs can have on you. What we really need to concentrate on and support our children with is the driving under the influence aspect. Let's teach them to be responsible if they are going to drink or smoke. (although it isn't responsible for them to do) it is a fact of life. Let's just concentrate on making sure they are safe. "
tb wrote on Jun 19, 2006 1:45 PM:
" some people aren't seeing the real picture here. Pot has not been legalized. The law is stating that simple possession of marijuana is now just an ordinance rather than a misdemeanor crime. Do you really think this will change anything. Those of you who are saying to quit the dare program, why?, there are kids out there smart enough to know that weed is not good for your brain cells and try and teach younger peers the same. As far as comparing drinking to marijuana use, some of you are right, drinking alters your mind just as much, if not, more than marijuana. Have you seen an instance in LaCrosse County where a person has been killed in a marijuana accident? Let me know if you have. "
Look at them run... wrote on Jun 19, 2006 12:58 PM:
" Uninformed posts facts, and now that anonymous board member is quacking in their boots. My question is, as this affects all LaCrosse county citizens, why hasn't the trib given it the front page coverage it deserves? "
To; Out of the closet wrote on Jun 19, 2006 11:46 AM:
" The funny thing is, is that people in those positions already smoke, and you don't know it. Professional during the day, and what is done in their home is nobodys business. Drug tests are easy to cheat - fact. So, even if it were legalized and regulated, you wouldn't see cheech and chong coming to your rescue in an ambulance ... come on. Just as you wouldn't see them drunk coming to your rescue. How do you know that emergency room doctor doesn't have a bad hangover from all the champagne he drank at the drug convention the night before? Again, you'd be amazed who you would find out smokes. "
Thorn wrote on Jun 19, 2006 9:32 AM:
" I am amazed that there is no in-depth discussion here of the medical benefits of marijuana. Thousands of cancer victims have extended the quality of their lives by using marijuana to take the edge off chemo and radiation side-affects, allowing them to eat without throwing up, etc.. "
To; good point wrote on Jun 19, 2006 8:45 AM:
" Well, compare it to alcohol. Most people do not brew it at home, rather they go to the kwik mart and purchase it, along with a tax stamp. Most would not grow their own, they'd pick up a pack of skunk at the kwik mart, I would. As well, it is not illegal to brew at home and consume at home, yet it is illegal to brew large quantities and sell it to your friends with no tax stamp. So, there are detailed laws laid out for alcohol, and those same laws can be redevised to marijuana laws of buying, selling, manufacture, and consumption. There are no 'facts' against it ... can you show a source? Here are some facts FOR legalization norml.org and facts on how the prohibition is a joke. "
Out of the closet wrote on Jun 19, 2006 5:19 AM:
" Even if this noxious weed were legalized, would you hire a long term smoker to represent you at a trial? Would you let your long time dope smoking dentist do a root canal on you? How about your long time smoking doctor, would you want him doing surgery on you? Injured in a crash and need emergency medical attention? Do you really want Cheech and Chonng bailing out of the back of an ambulance to take care of you?
Use a little brain power here people. "
WAKE UP please wrote on Jun 19, 2006 1:35 AM:
" It is illegal for anyone in this country smoke pot. Yet it is an uninforced drug in the N.B.A. N. Korea and CHINA love our priorities, and they own our debt.Ted kennedy should be in jail for life and instead he is re-elected, every 6 years forever? Herbage kohl is in touch with the common man? He is an nba owner. "
A little out of tune....... wrote on Jun 18, 2006 11:32 PM:
" I love you mary jane..... "
good point wrote on Jun 18, 2006 11:05 PM:
" The government will never legalize something that they will never have control over. The government would not profit from legalizing pot. If I can grow pot in my house the government can't tax it. However each local government can profit from the fight on drugs. They tax the heck out of the community and receive federal funds to fight the war on drugs. Will the government actually go house to house and do searches to make sure that we are not grow it ourselves. Will they make pot deals claim there earnings on thier W-2's. Probably not so why the argument on the legalization of pot when the facts show against it. "
Uninformed wrote on Jun 18, 2006 10:44 PM:
" The board is giving away your rights to public access of Lake Neshonoc. A supervisor responded: "Taking away the public's rights to Lake Neshonoc? Really, well thats news to me since I sit on the Public Works committee. What piece of news will you invent next!" In Reply: "DISCUSSION / DIRECTION RE LAKE NESHONOC ACCESS EASEMENTS. Right from the agenda and the minutes as posted on the web site. Currently the County/Public owns the land immediately adjacent to the lake. The committee is considering leasing, or selling. For $100,000 per acre, sell it to them, anything less, tell them to get their private property off the public property! I hope the board doesn't give away what little public trust they have left! Obviously, as a politician, you have some OTHER way to SPIN this." This anonymous supervisor is sleeping on the job. "
Amazed wrote on Jun 18, 2006 10:21 PM:
" You'd be amazed, who would come out of the closet if pot was legalized. Imagine if coffee shops could serve marijuana like in other countries. Imagine walking in there and seeing people you know from work, from the hospital, lawyers, judges etc etc etc ... it's more widespread than you over conservative people think! That is why the law is loosening up, more and more people in power are seeing pot as "big deal". Eventually the feds will want the taxes out of it as more and more exotic manmade dangers drugs are devised. "
To; opinion 1&2 wrote on Jun 18, 2006 10:18 PM:
" You're either a cop or military, because no normal citizen is that up tight about laws. Laws are made by the people, well, the people can change them too. Some things only make sense, like legalizing a plant ... it's a plant! It's more pure than alcohol which takes a brewery to make. If you can explain the hypocracy and actually explain WHY it's not legal, I'll abide by your 'law'. "
Just a thought wrote on Jun 18, 2006 10:02 PM:
" Everyone wants to discuss the issue by going around it. If something is illegal then it should be just that. There should not be a half way, this will create another start to the legalization of weed and possibly other drugs eventually. But for everyone pro pot realize that it will never be legal because pot is something you can not control. If everyone can grow it them selves please tell me how you can control it. And yes pot is just as bad as alcohol, the problem with both is people for the most part are not responsible with either. I am against all drugs but I understand that people will do anything to get a high, rather it be sky diving, academics, music or drugs. It is a part of who we are and what we do, however better to get high off life then drugs. "
Fawaz wrote on Jun 18, 2006 9:15 PM:
" To all you who emphasize that it is ILLEGAL: speeding is illegal. Do you always go at or below the speed limit. I go driving in La Crosse for five minutes and I will doubt you. Underage drinking is illegal. That seems to be news to some young people. And finally, I was around in the 60s and 70s and there were so many people smoking the marijuana that some of you must be hypocrites. Just because something is made illegal by a government does not make it immoral or sacredly untouchable. "
What the problem is??? wrote on Jun 18, 2006 2:02 PM:
" What is the problem with marijuana people? Other than it's legal issues. If that's the big deal here, I'm ashamed to live in this community. Years ago, it was illegal for a black person to walk into a white establishment. Until a few people stood up for what they beleive in, that was just as wrong as the possetion of a joint is now. You don't die from pot overdoses, unless it's a death from laughter. I've been a hard worker since I was 15, yet I've smoked weed since age 16. I don't get high before work, and I don't drive around while smoking. The fact is, I'm glad to see that the crime of having some weed on you (not enough to sell) won't get you jail time. People just need to lighten up and spark a bowl sometimes. "
your neighbor smokes marijuana wrote on Jun 18, 2006 1:05 PM:
" Many of you don't want to believe it, but many of your friends, family and neighbors smoke pot. It is true that many of our doctors, lawyers, teachers, elected officials, bankers, firemen, donut vendors, and other professionals smoke marijuana on occasion. It does not define the lives of these people, but they may occasional use. While it is true that there are some "potheads" that are lazy and smelly, that characteristic does not define every persone who smokes marijuana. "
clarifications please wrote on Jun 18, 2006 12:40 PM:
" Can someone please clarify the law for me. I enjoy baking *special* brownies, and my recipe only calls for 20g or marijuana per batch. Seems like I'm fine there, but the trouble is that the entire recipe yields 420g of brownies when you include the sugar, eggs, cocoa, etc. Does my possession of my batch of brownies qualify me for a citation or a full-blown arrest? How will the police determine the THC concentration if I cannot provide a recipe card as proof? "
OPINION response part 2 wrote on Jun 18, 2006 12:02 PM:
" It's great that some potheads can own their own homes, as long as they didn't get the money to do so ILLEGALLLY. Or did they ILLEGALLY sell weed in order to buy their house? I can't imagine a pothead holding down a job or even being presentable enough to get a job. The key word here is LEGAL. Get my point and open your mind. I do have one question though: Wouldn't saltines make your mouth even drier than it already is from all the pot you smoked? "
Opinion response part 1 wrote on Jun 18, 2006 11:56 AM:
" Well, I guess the potheads keep more food companies in business than I thought. Doritioes, chips, saltines, etc. The economy thanks you!! You can't tell me that pot isn't a "gateway" drug that leads to harsher and more damaging drugs....and what about the effect that weed has on one's lungs? Is driving stoned safe? I don't think so. Alcoholics have a disease and need help but the fact remains that alcohol is still legal. Are there "potoholics" out there? If so, they probably need help too, but they shouldn't have blazed up in the first place since it's ILLEGAL!! "
To: opinion wrote on Jun 18, 2006 9:47 AM:
" LOL, you've been properly brain washed. LOL You really have no clue. Yep, legalize weed or outlaw alcohol, quit being hypocrites! I realize we're not talking about legalizing weed, but this little ordinance is a step in that direction, step by step the old school mentality will die off, and weed will not be such a big deal and eventually legalized. I'd love to pay taxes on it, but the govt would rather spend taxes fighting it, dumb. Where there is a demand there will be a supply, realize that. "
To:opinion wrote on Jun 18, 2006 9:44 AM:
" OK......one thing don't stereotype potheads. Cuz i have a job,take showers everyday and i'm am not lazy thank you very much. You know jack**** about pot or potheads. Ok now what is your opinion about alcoholics??? They are worse then potheads. And i perfer Saltines. "
From Jeff E to Opinion wrote on Jun 18, 2006 6:07 AM:
" I prefer doritos while I'm sitting in the house I own.Get my point.Open your mind. "
Always ask questions wrote on Jun 17, 2006 11:54 PM:
" Growing hemp is too scary for the oil companies. It offers a cheap alternative for fuel and other products. Sugar cane can be grown to produce ethanol. 4 times more ethanol can be produced from every acre as opposed to corn. But, yet again the big business is stopping it! Legalize Pot! Oulaw alcohol! If someone gets drunk, they do stupid things! If they get stoned, They want to watch TV and eat chips! "
listen up wrote on Jun 17, 2006 10:49 PM:
" I think the pot smokers in the group are confused. We are not talking about legalizing marijuana, or about why it is/is not as evil as alcohol. We are talking about whether you should get a ticket or a record. We are talking about the fact that it IS illegal, whether you like it and agree with or not. We also have speed limits...some I agree with, some I don't but no one really gives a crap if I agree with it. And no one gives a crap if you think you should be allowed to smoke weed. It is ILLEGAL! The reality is that ticket or criminal charges, it will all be up to our local police officers' discretion. Let's just hope they have more balls than Steve Doyle and his money-grubbing cohorts on the county board. "
OPINION wrote on Jun 17, 2006 9:45 PM:
" Pot smokers, in general, are lazy, unmotivated, leeches on society. They contribute nothing to this world except body odor and garbage in the form of worn out couches and empty cheetos bags. Now that I think of it, I guess they do contribute to the economy in that they keep the cheetos company in business. Take a shower, buy some deoderant, and get a JOB!!! "
Simple Minds wrote on Jun 17, 2006 9:16 PM:
" I would like to point out that the FIRST reading of this ordinance occurred May 18th. Just goes to show how uniformed the public really is. The agenda for the May 18th meeting was sent to the trib. The agenda for this meeting was sent to the trib, why are any of you surprised by this? I guess nobody here can read past the front page. "
still senile wrote on Jun 17, 2006 4:15 PM:
" "All of you who support legalizing marijuana are either self-serving pot smokers, or you are too lazy and cowardly to help fight against the rising tide of drug abuse in this country. "
Nope, I donate to NORML, I am helping fight the drug war, helping stop it. Have a nice day.
My dad does not smoke, but relizes legalization would be a step in the right direction, 'the war' aint working and is costing us a lot more... a LOT more than the war in Iraq. Come on down off your high horse. "
To; Ms.Senile wrote on Jun 17, 2006 4:12 PM:
" I am not ashamed that I think for myself, Mr.Puppet.
You said; "There is NO excuse for doing drugs - legal or illegal." What a hoot! Thanks for the laugh. Have you ever seen all the meds in a pharmacy, OTC and behind the counter? Those are legal, and you think those are bad too? Tell that to the elderly that rely on them to live another day. You, sir, make no sense! All you antis sound really jealous, really. Spark one up and have a laugh, you need it! "
Re; Wrong decision...... wrote on Jun 17, 2006 4:09 PM:
" Yep, us pro-pot people are crazy because we want a controlled substance actually controlled (legalized). Tax the heck out of it, imagine the revenue. There is so much traffic of it, and it's all tax free money .... THAT my friends, is insane. No matter if you are for or against the 'evil weed' ... having control over it would be nice, wouldn't it? "
Your Nuts! wrote on Jun 17, 2006 3:27 PM:
" Mr. Sena I'm sorry, but your nuts! If you dropped off the face of the earth you would be the one who wouldn't be missed! "
Mr. Sena wrote on Jun 17, 2006 2:30 PM:
" To those who responded negatively to my post: You should be ashamed of yourselves. You have given nothing but EXCUSES for our nation's drug abuse, and you have also avoided the issue by talking about money. There is NO excuse for doing drugs - legal or illegal. All of you who support legalizing marijuana are either self-serving pot smokers, or you are too lazy and cowardly to help fight against the rising tide of drug abuse in this country. You love drugs? Go do them all day long. Go on and kill yourselves; you won't be missed. "
Wrong decision...... wrote on Jun 17, 2006 2:11 PM:
" wrong direction. All you folks that think legalizing and controling marijuana is going to solve a problem are highly mistaken. I remember about 10 yrs ago, in another country (Amsterdam perhaps), they legalized heroin use in one park in a city. The idea is that they could control it and prevent o.d.'s etc. What happened is the area went completely downhill, people dying in public, and spurred a bigger prpblem than they had before. It WON'T work! And this decision is a step in that direction....it'll only make matters worse! "
RE: Pot Smokers wrote on Jun 17, 2006 11:50 AM:
" Maybe you're just a bad father who uses pot as an excuse for your shortcomings? If pot did that much damage to your family maybe the problem lies elsewhere. "
Little known fact wrote on Jun 17, 2006 11:23 AM:
" Marijauna was outlawed because it's Hemp and because of that was a huge threat to the oil companies. Hemp can be grown by farmers and used for so many things; fuel, paper, rope, clothing, etc.. Because it was an organic means to create fuel the oil barrens put pressure on the government to ban the growth of hemp (marijuana). That is why proganda like "Reefer Madness" was made and why we have been brainwashed to believe that there is a just and true cause for it being illegal. If Hemp were legalized a lot of farmers would have saved the family business and there would no longer have been only one source of fuel. Right now, if our Government had not been so greedy we would not 60 so years later be fighting a war in Iraq. "
To; sena wrote on Jun 17, 2006 10:35 AM:
" You are correct, there are going to be people that do things, no matter the law. Lets say pot is totally legalized ... people that are against still are not going to use it, as well ... people that do want it, are going to use it no matter the law. So, why not legalize it and take away the black market, tax free trade ... imagine the revenue gained by taxing all the pot, and the money saved in fighting it. It was put here by mother nature, beer is more man made than weed, and the laws make no sense. (nor do you) "
To; sena-ile wrote on Jun 17, 2006 10:34 AM:
" You are correct, there are going to be people that do things, no matter the law. Lets say pot is totally legalized ... people that are against still are not going to use it, as well ... people that do want it, are going to use it no matter the law. So, why not legalize it and take away the black market, tax free trade ... imagine the revenue gained by taxing all the pot, and the money saved in fighting it. It was put here by mother nature, beer is more man made than weed, and the laws make no sense. (nor do you) "
RE: Re; Pot smokers wrote on Jun 17, 2006 10:25 AM:
" There is not one case of a marijuana overdose, can't happen. So, you're sob story holds no value to me, because you speak a nontruth. Just go pray for someone that needs it. Your family would have had problems if weed wasn't around ANYWAY from the sounds of it. You can't blame one thing, blame the family and their habits. "
Re; sena wrote on Jun 17, 2006 10:22 AM:
" " don't buy their drugs because they are legal/illegal" ... you're right, the same problems will be inplace no matter if the substance is legal or illegal. People that want to smoke pot are going to do it no matter how the law reads. This ordinance was put in place to alleviate the system of such minor instances, so 'they system' can focus on the more serious offenders. It's a step in the right direction. People are going to drink, smoke cigs, pot ... no matter the law, so, why not legalize all things so they are TRULY controlled!?! This 'ordinance' is a step in that direction, eventually the old brainwashed people will die off, and the laws will change in total. "
RE: Re; Pot smokers wrote on Jun 17, 2006 9:04 AM:
" If by properly brainwashed, you mean watching firsthand what this crap has done to my family, you're right. I watched it kill my brother, I've watched it ruin the lives of my friends, classmates, and co-workers, but the saddest was when it took my daughter. Don't sit there and presume to tell me why I believe what I do, you haven't lived my life. You haven't watched your loved ones slowly destroys by this weed. "
Mr. Sena wrote on Jun 17, 2006 7:42 AM:
" The drug abuse flood gates WILL be opened due to irresponsible policies like those of La Crosse County. Drug users, abusers, and addicts don't buy their drugs because they are legal/illegal. They buy the drugs for their EFFECT. Alcohol and nicotine cause immense pain and suffering in our country because users can obtain them easily and with no fear of punishment. If we decriminalize or legalize marijuana and/or other illegal drugs, users will simply buy more and more, and non-users could become interested in buying them. Our "War on Drugs" will become more of a joke than it is already. "
wake up thorn wrote on Jun 17, 2006 2:53 AM:
" remember the town meeting on the drunk drownings? "
Wake up La Crosse! wrote on Jun 17, 2006 12:25 AM:
" Every time the government actually does something good for the people, such as increasing funding to education... You never hear much about it from the media. But when something is done that could be "used" to create headlines the media is all over that issue!!! Perhaps part of the problem with America is the wealthy few who control the news. "CAN YOU SAY KEPT IN THE DARK AND FED ****!" "
Gateway drug wrote on Jun 16, 2006 10:44 PM:
" It's as much a gateway drug as coffee, alchohol, cigarettes and caffeine. Get real. "
I'm confused wrote on Jun 16, 2006 9:48 PM:
" I think I missed something...did they say that the only people getting citations, without criminal consequences would be first time offenders? I didn't hear any such qualification...and let's remember marijuana is a gateway drug. Very few people who have not smoked marijuana use meth or crank. So if we address the issue of marijuana use (which is out of control), then we address these other issues too. "
Bill of rights - Article V wrote on Jun 16, 2006 9:17 PM:
" government shall make no law restricting the right of an individual to ingest substances or to participate in practices which may or may not cause ill health or injury "
U.S. leaders wrote on Jun 16, 2006 9:05 PM:
" Our great revolutionary documents such as Common Sense, The Federalist Papers, The Declaration of Independence, and The Constitution were all printed on paper made from hemp. Science fiction writer and Ph.D. Robert Anton Wilson has suggested that because George Washington smoked pot, he was able to formulate non-linear military strategies that often surprised and bewildered the British Redcoats. Our American flag and even blue jeans were originally made from hemp. Marijuana, it turns out, is as American as apple pie. Nobody in your government-run school ever taught you these historical facts, did they? "
Myths from the govt; fact wrote on Jun 16, 2006 8:39 PM:
" Why is marijuana still prohibited?
Government's answer: because you shouldn't use it.
And why shouldn't you use it? Because it's prohibited! Persistent myths about marijuana still remain, and they are repeated endlessly by the government, public schools and the media. These myths are preventing many Americans from realizing that there really is no good reason for prohibiting marijuana. However, they are becoming less and less effective. A 2001 Gallup poll revealed that one in three Americans already believes in ending marijuana prohibition. It is only a matter of time before the majority comes out in favor of ending it. "
Re; Pot smokers wrote on Jun 16, 2006 8:26 PM:
" What a tool. You've been properly brainwashed, pray for me? (lol) "
Stupid Dopers wrote on Jun 16, 2006 8:25 PM:
" Nobody has decriminalized possession of marijuana or said it's okay to smoke it. The county has merely given the officers discretion when dealing with you knuckleheads if you possess a small amount of the ILLEGAL substance. There are all sorts of county ordinances, such as Disorderly Conduct and Trespassing, that are adopted under Wisconsin Statutes. This isn't a victory for potheads by any stretch of the imagination. Personally, I say smoke up. The more of you that do, the more opportunities arise for the good people of our society. I just wish you blazers couldn't breed.
"
So Much For D.A.R.E. wrote on Jun 16, 2006 7:56 PM:
" Now that possessing pot under 25 grams can be cited as an ordinance vs. a crime I can see the following playing at a home. Son: Mom, Dad the D.A.R.E. officer told me that smoking pot is illegal and not good for you. How come you are smoking pot. Parent: It's Ok son, they have decriminalized the amount I use. It no different than when I am speeding. Can you remember when was the last time was I stopped? So son, you want a hit? "
cont. wrote on Jun 16, 2006 7:00 PM:
" Just my interpretation on the issue, if this is the case beware and don’t get lulled into believing it is ok to have a “small” amount of weed on you as you will be done for after your second conviction. So moral to the story from my view is don’t use it (and if you got to, don’t have any in on you) and you will not be facing possible felony convictions that could carry a mandatory jail sentence of one year or better.
"
A word of advice… wrote on Jun 16, 2006 6:59 PM:
" I’m no legal eagle by a far cry, but however, looking at WI law for possession of pot I gather this (correct me if I’m wrong here folks). It appears that the first conviction is a forfeiture fine and the second and any after that is a crime i.e. felony. "
A word of advice… wrote on Jun 16, 2006 6:57 PM:
" I’m no legal eagle by a far cry, but however, looking at WI law for possession of pot I gather this (correct me if I’m wrong here folks). It appears that the first conviction is a forfeiture fine and the second and any after that is a crime i.e. felony. Just my interpretation on the issue, if this is the case beware and don’t get lulled into believing it is ok to have a “small” amount of weed on you as you will be done for after your second conviction. So moral to the story from my view is don’t use it (and if you got to, don’t have any on you) and you will not be facing possible felony convictions that could carry a mandatory jail sentence of one year or better.
"
motivation? wrote on Jun 16, 2006 4:20 PM:
" There may be no political motivation ... regardless, it has to do with credibility to me.
Why would you at one point be for something ... then without you doing it, you're against it and vow had you been voted in, it would not have been enacted? Sounds confusing, doesn't it? Mmhmm
¿ "
bout time wrote on Jun 16, 2006 4:07 PM:
" now we don't have to spend more of our tax money to go for enlarging our jails,let the pot smokers(which is not degrading us)out! make room for the real criminals. why is it against the law to smoke a frigin weed that grows along side the highway?our native forefathers did,as they say take the blinders off and try it-you might like it!!! "
Scooter wrote on Jun 16, 2006 4:04 PM:
" But what about meth? "
Pot smokers wrote on Jun 16, 2006 4:00 PM:
" Pot smokers and drug abusers in general should all be steralized so that they can't breed, and shipped off to an island somewhere and abandoned. They're a drain on society and a waste of a human being. Pot is just a crutch people use as an excuse for being lazy and not growing up and dealing with life in a realistic manner. "
Chip wrote on Jun 16, 2006 2:40 PM:
" There is no political motivation to my statement! If I wanted to say something to sway voters, I would post about my plan to build a wall between north and south La Crosse and require residents to carry passes that allows them access to the other side of the wall. Happy? "
Uh, Chip ... wrote on Jun 16, 2006 2:07 PM:
" I thought this was one issue you addressed when running for mayor, this was one point you were going to concentrate on. Now it passed (which should make you happy), and you claim you would have voted against it? Here I thought you were green friendly, now Im having second thoughts of moving you up the ladder ... you're losing credibility to me. The bushism "flipflopper" comes to mind. *confused* "
To ex-pothead wrote on Jun 16, 2006 1:24 PM:
" OK, so YOU were lazy and had no desire to better yourself. Lets not generalize all pot smokers as being lazy and unambitious. Some are, just as some alcholics are, and some obese people are. Certainly not all drinkers, smokers or chubs just sit around doing nothing. Pot addicts would be addicted to something somewhere if not pot. It could be any drug of choice, or behavior problem of choice. The worse thing about pot is that it does wreck havoc on the memory, but then, who remembers everything anyway? "
READ! wrote on Jun 16, 2006 11:46 AM:
" This article is on 'pot' not drunk drivers!So sit down,shut up and smoke another bowl. "
Recent studies.... wrote on Jun 16, 2006 11:07 AM:
" .....have shown that long term pot smokers suffer NO ADVERSE CANCER symptoms.....pot is not physically harmful like a cigarette is. Pot has some drawbacks. It can become an addiction....but folks who get addicted are types who get addicted to anything. It can make one lazy....yet it also sparks creativity in others. I had a friend who would smoke a joint before going for a run !!! The fact that it is a natural plant, unprocessed.....pure, I've got to think it's a gift from the CREATOR. I've known many functional potheads, working professionals who do their thing in the privacy of their homes after work hours. "
Ex-pothead wrote on Jun 16, 2006 10:45 AM:
" While I don't agree with Marijuana use, it makes a person so lazy they do nothing to better themselves or contribute to society. I do believe that this is the right decision, it will allow our police to use some discretion and help to allieviate the overcrowding issues at the jail. "
How many.... wrote on Jun 16, 2006 10:34 AM:
" obnoxious, slobbering, puking, picking-a-fight loudmouthed pot smokers do you come across? Now ask the same question about alcohol. The worse behavior from a toker that you'll see is uncontrollable eating and the need for cola; oh, yeah, and the need to take a nap. No hang-over to make you less than par the next day. No drunken brawl, no crying-in-your-beer folks. Just happy, hungry, lovin' life and laughing for hours at nothing kind of people. But alcohol is legal and pot is not. Go figure. There are tokers everywhere...you just don't know it. All ages and walks of life. Not many are lazy, in fact your boss may be a toker, or your kid's teacher, or your local police officer....you just never know. "
TO:Chip wrote on Jun 16, 2006 10:13 AM:
" So Chip...if you are such a "concerned" politico, then where were your opinions about this issue BEFORE it was voted on? Perhaps you had NO IDEA this was even being considered? And we should vote for you why?...because you have such an astute sense of the "politics" in LAX? "
Have smoked but still accomplished wrote on Jun 16, 2006 9:48 AM:
" I'm from a neighboring state and have lived in la crosse for three years, the citys biggest "drug" problem is alcohol and after reading responses from this website over the years most agree. At the sametime I think the liberal view of alcohol makes this city alot of fun as well and I have enjoyed that aspect. Weed, pot, marijuana, or whatever doesn't lead to more drug use. That gateway is opened or closed by kids parents long before they even know what it is. I think the decision by the city is a good one. Weed is no worse or better than alcohol and this movement will allow the police force to focus on other problems. The worst part of marijuana is the "other problems" that by purchasing it allows funding for, which would be fixed by legalizing it. "
Hey Funny wrote on Jun 16, 2006 9:34 AM:
" You seem to forget rules change. When the government figured out it could come out ahead in taxes, the laws change. Don't compare a law as valid, that was at one time not. Repeal legal alcohol consumption before the next DUI happens and death occurs because of the ALCOHOL related problem. Stop the real problem, alcohol is advertised as OK by the media teaching our children. Alcohol is the most evil drug there is! Its legal and the government sponsers its consumption because they make money. "
To: To what's worse wrote on Jun 16, 2006 8:39 AM:
" I'm not talking about the person who is a habitual user, but rather the person who is found, for the first time, with a little weed. I will agree with you that it might be laced with something people weren't expecting, and I'm against ANYONE driving under the influence of anything that will impair them, not just alcohol. It seems to be drunk drivers who care the least about getting DUI, which is why I raised that point. Those people keep doing it until you hear about them killing someone. Oh, it was their 12th DUI? Why weren't they in prison? Nice. Those folks are a menace. "
TO:CHIP wrote on Jun 16, 2006 8:28 AM:
" You'd say you'd do anything right now, to get all the votes you can. "
ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL wrote on Jun 16, 2006 8:26 AM:
" O.K. If I get stopped for driving after having a beer or two,I expect the cop,to only issue me a citation,not arrest me. "
Happy Camper wrote on Jun 16, 2006 8:22 AM:
" WHAAAHOOOOOO "
Wonder wrote on Jun 16, 2006 7:45 AM:
" I wonder how many people in society that smoke pot are actually contributing to society in any manner. It's one thing if you use "a little" once in awhile comparable to a "social" drinker but the peeps that constantly blaze up are a dredge on society in the fact that they are lazy, cheeto eating, slobs that can't even muster the energy to shower. "
Get Real wrote on Jun 16, 2006 7:07 AM:
" So by passing this everyone is now going to turn into a pothead? Makes sense to me. All this does is eliminates these small marijuana busts from going to court. Does anyone know what the punishment is when a person is arrested for drugs? When you see someone in the Tribune that has been arrested for drugs go on Wisconsin Circuit Court Access and see what happens. They don't get squat for punishment so why go through that expense to the taxpayer for nothing. "
let me see... wrote on Jun 16, 2006 6:05 AM:
" So now we can smoke pot, and drive with our windows down while smoking. Perhaps we can stand near entrances of buildings also, and flick those butts on the street. Crowds will gather for second hand smoke with no objection. Refer madness takes over La Crosse and soon no one cares anymore about any issue. Makes a good argument to me! "
Progressive or regressive? wrote on Jun 15, 2006 11:43 PM:
" I'm for giving tickets to those with small amounts of pot. But what doesn't make sense to me is that although this is a progressive move (good for La Crosse), why do you arrest a high school student for a prank? Either La Crosse is too neoconservative and rigid, or those in power are too lenient. Lets move to be more progressive and less regressive. "
To; question wrote on Jun 15, 2006 10:43 PM:
" "Can someone give me a reason why being high from smoking a joint is worse than being drunk?"" It's not, it's just that it was demonized back in the 30's with the film 'refer madness', and people are too afraid to stand up and change the laws, as they did to re-legalize alcohol. Dumb.
norml.org "
to; springs wrote on Jun 15, 2006 10:38 PM:
" RIGHT! :D (as well you hit the nail on the head with your comment) "
To; Just Me... wrote on Jun 15, 2006 10:37 PM:
" Why does it take something mood altering ....? Most people wake up with coffee, then switch to soda during the day, then have a beer in the evening .... those are all mood altering drugs too. In some countries coffee is outlawed, and as silly as it seems, thats how us pro-pot people see the current prohibition. Al Capone did not create the prohibition, the prohibition created Al Capone. "
To; disgusted wrote on Jun 15, 2006 10:31 PM:
" Yes, there are a lot of potheads in the region, and most are harmless, compared to drunks, or meth freaks, or crank users, or crack heads. So, as these other drugs become more of a problem, I'd rather have the cops concentrate on them, then busting some guy and hauling him to jail for smokin a joint, which will intoxicate him just as much as going to the bar. This is a step forward, and will allow for more efficient law enforcement of things that really matter. "
Chip wrote on Jun 15, 2006 10:27 PM:
" This never would have passed if I was the Mayor, or state representative, or DA, or county sheriff, or director of public works. "
wake up, people wrote on Jun 15, 2006 10:26 PM:
" Are we forgetting that people are smoking pot and driving under the influence too? But apparently this is much less important than drunk driving. Get real! As far as not worrying about high school kids smoking pot, pull your heads out of the sand...we are already giving our kids the message that they will only be slapped on the wrist (mostly due to the joke known as "Drug Court"). The bottom line is that our county board is all about money. They clearly care more about county income than about the lives they are negatively impacting. A slap on the wrist for marijuana? Where do we draw the line? cocaine? heroin? meth? Rohypnol? "
FINALLY wrote on Jun 15, 2006 10:21 PM:
" Finally, something done in town makes sense! Kudos to those that voted for this. As crack, and other speed based drugs become more prevalent, I'd rather have the cops concentrating on those suspects, than a mellow pothead. This is great, now lets push for full legalization (just kidding, that's pushing it). I'm thrilled by this news, and wish the report/article included more details. Think of the jail space this will save, as well as taxes spent housing someone. "
Fred Zepplin wrote on Jun 15, 2006 10:02 PM:
" This is good news! Now the police will have more time to spend finding the serial killer that is out there. "
BDC wrote on Jun 15, 2006 9:46 PM:
" Oh, by the way, please drink & smoke responsibly. "
Concerned wrote on Jun 15, 2006 9:45 PM:
" I don't think it's quite as black/white as some make this out to be. It is still an 'option' to arrest the person who has broken the law if the officer so chooses. It isn't like the 'seat belt law' where you need to have another offense to be pulled over. If you are caught with it, you will pay. If the officer feels that an arrest fits the situation, he still has that option. I don't really see this as a 'win' for people in support of legalizing marijuana, people will still be punished for breaking the law as it stands. I do see this situations as citizens, trusting our police force with the responsibility to make sound decisions, which I believe they do. "
To: What's worse wrote on Jun 15, 2006 9:36 PM:
" Certainly drunk driving is unacceptable and a life-threatening act, but driving under the influence of marijuana is just as dangerous. I work in a hospital where we see people come in delusional and hallucinating from smoking pot--probably "bad stuff," laced with something they weren't expecting, but a risk they took. Some of them have irreversibly damaged their brains and spend the rest of their lives in group homes and institutes; some get better. We also see the effects of long-term marijuana use--depression, psychosis, loss of jobs, loss of families, etc. So will this really save taxpayer's money or will see more and more people on disability as the result of chronic use? "
Funny wrote on Jun 15, 2006 8:50 PM:
" It's funny how the potheads compare smoking pot to drinking. Last time I checked drinking os legal, smoking pot is not. To have some council decide to not punish criminal offenders for their wrong-doings to the fullest is mind-blowing. It might be just pot, but pot leaves to coke, meth, and the guns that accompany drug deals. Just read these comments if you know this decision wasn't a mistake. A bunch of people are now encouraged to smoke pot, good job La Crosse! "
cryptoman wrote on Jun 15, 2006 8:50 PM:
" Just be sure & safeguard the brewery from terrorists or LaX will be DOA....... "
LS wrote on Jun 15, 2006 8:08 PM:
" I assume that all the police officers will now have to carry some sort of a scale to weigh the pot - wonder what that will cost the city/county? "
che guevara wrote on Jun 15, 2006 7:37 PM:
" Very good thing, all of you people saying its bad, open your mind just for once and think. How many die from the use of alcohol?(Liver disease, drunk driving, alcohol poisening, etc...etc...etc....), alright that will take forever to count up, now search long and hard, but can you find one just one instance where pot has caused this, good luck! What are the feelings when you are around a really drunk person,pretty obnoxious, huh? With pot you cant even tell they have used it. Come on people wake up and smell the sweet smell of a gift from mother earth. "
What's worse? wrote on Jun 15, 2006 7:09 PM:
" I really don't care if someone has a little bit of marijuana. Write them a ticket and let them be on their way--that's fine with me. It will still be on their record, so it's not like they're avoiding punishment. What really worries me are the drunk drivers around here! What's worse, a person with little weed or a stupid, oblivioius, repeat-offending drunk driver? "
Kris S wrote on Jun 15, 2006 7:02 PM:
" They should end the DARE program. Studies done concerning this program have prooved that is doesn't work. As far as this article, its silly to haul someone to jail for a small amount of pot. "
Question wrote on Jun 15, 2006 6:58 PM:
" Why is someone a loser for smoking weed and people who drink a lot and get drunk and pass out are cool? Weed should be legalized. Can someone give me a reason why being high from smoking a joint is worse than being drunk? "
Doyles spoils wrote on Jun 15, 2006 6:41 PM:
" The board is knee deep in lefties. The people of LaX voted in the liberals, so now live with it. It's only going to get worse. "
.. wrote on Jun 15, 2006 6:35 PM:
" I'm sure repeat offenders, dealers, and those with large amounts of pot will still be getting arrested...But what is the point in sending some high school kid with a bag of weed to jail? Give them tickets, let the parents handle it, no problem. This will save us all money and will leave room in the jails for the real criminals. "
Progressive is a good thing. wrote on Jun 15, 2006 6:31 PM:
" I don't smoke cigarrettes much less pot, but I do believe that arresting someone for a small amount of pot is regressive. The prisons are full of people who had smoked pot; a ticket, rehabiliation, etc., is the answer, not jail. Implement programs for serious addicts rather than send them to prison (which cost taxpayers $53,000 a year to house). Anything progressive in La Crosse is a good thing. "
The hypocrisy of this community knows no bounds. wrote on Jun 15, 2006 6:15 PM:
" Yes, La Crosse, Wisconsin, whose 2 main community festivals, Riverfest and Okto-beerfest, have as their centerpiece excessive consumption of beer. In fact, these festivals could not be successful without the consumption of beer. Yes, alcohol is the mind altering drug of choice that has the socially accepted advantage of being legal. It fine to be totally smashed as long as you can legally drink and do not hurt anybody, but God forbid if you have a little pot. It's off to jail or prison with you since you are an evil threat to society. Add up all of the death and misery that illegal drugs cause and it does not even begin to compare with the destruction that alcohol causes this country. "
AAGH wrote on Jun 15, 2006 5:25 PM:
" Who are the 15 idiots who voted for this. We've got to make sure they are NOT re-elected.
Then the next board can get it right! "
springs wrote on Jun 15, 2006 5:20 PM:
" They are not legalizing it!!! They are just saying that taking an individual to jail over a small amount is pointless.
People can smoke and still be very productive citizens! Right? "
Just me wrote on Jun 15, 2006 5:03 PM:
" Why is it necessary to have something mood-altering to be an outlet??? What ever happened to just talking to others, fishing, anything recreational, to get your mind off things? The cycle keeps going and going and going... It starts out that one small thing is ok, then a little bit more, then a little bit more. Whatever!!! "
Homer wrote on Jun 15, 2006 5:03 PM:
" Next step is to give the police the option of doing nothing. Live and let live. As long as they aren't harming others, who cares. Sometimes, big brother needs to butt out. "
TO:JNJ wrote on Jun 15, 2006 5:00 PM:
" Maybe they should also,do the same, for someone who has that "ONE SIP"of beer left in the bottle in the back seat of their car!!!! "
DJL wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:50 PM:
" What's going to happen to the D.A. R. E. program now? They going to stop that now? "
lol wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:44 PM:
" Wow, look at the dope smoking losers coming out in full support. Smoke it up Cheech! The world is passing you by. "
Good lord wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:29 PM:
" Can't wait to read more of these comments. It ought to be quite entertaining. "
Finally wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:21 PM:
" An outlet for our 18, 19 and 20-year-olds who can't legally drink a beer! "
JNJ wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:16 PM:
" When I lived in Winona 10-12 years ago, they did the same thing. It still wasn't pleasant to get a ticket, but I never understood why they would haul someone off to jail for one tiny little speck of pot that they had left in the corner of a baggie. That was wasting everyone's time and money!! Just make sure they have to go to drug classes or something along with the ticket, and I think that will be enough to at least deter some of them. Not the stupid ones who smoke as they walk down the street and stuff like that, but the people who do it once a year for a b-day treat or something. Happy B-day, here's your ticket. Better than going to jail on your big day! "
Thorn wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:16 PM:
" First progressive thing I have seen in a long time coming out of LAX County! "
Disgusted wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:13 PM:
" I completely disagree with this decision. My guess is that the ones that are glad to see this passed are the ones who use marijuana all the time. What's next? Giving a citation for Meth or Crank? Keeping drugs of ANY kind is the step in the right direction for keeping children drug free. What happened to DARE? Having the option to order just a citation seems as though the police department is saying...it's bad, but okay, I guess you can have it. "
What a mistake! wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:02 PM:
" What message are we sending? I guess doing drugs isn't a crime. I'm disapointed in this decision, we should be puniching offenders not just slapping them on the wrist! "
I think wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:02 PM:
" I think I'll quit smoking cigarettes and start smoking pot. No-one seems to be BI%#hing about this. "
LONG LIVE ..... wrote on Jun 15, 2006 4:00 PM:
" ....CHEECH AND CHONG!!!!! "
fyi wrote on Jun 15, 2006 3:15 PM:
" IT'S ABOUT TIME. "
Adam wrote on Jun 15, 2006 3:09 PM:
" a decision well made. "
J.R. wrote on Jun 15, 2006 2:46 PM:
" I'm gonna get SO high. "
Solomon wrote on Jun 15, 2006 2:22 PM:
" It's about time. It saves the taxpayers money. It allows La Crosse County to keep all of the money they collect from these fines. It alleviates overcrowding in the courts. It allows greater attention to more serious cases, and it still allows for more harsh treatment of serious offenders and dealers. There was never a good reason not to do this. "
Good Job County Board wrote on Jun 15, 2006 2:18 PM:
" Now, let's hope the DA allows the police to issue the citations. This will keep people from having to hire attorneys/have them appointed for simple possession. It keeps the money in the county coffers too for the fines. Let's worry about violent criminals, please, not dumb people who like to occasionally get the munchies. They cost us less than the chronic drunks anyway. "
Absolutely wrote on Jun 15, 2006 2:03 PM:
" Wow, sanity in drug enforcement, nice to see "
yes! wrote on Jun 15, 2006 1:58 PM:
" finally we start moving away from criminalizing! "
Patriot wrote on Jun 15, 2006 1:51 PM:
" A step in the right direction. "
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