Roller wrote on Jul 22, 2006 2:30 PM:
" CASE CLOSED! "
Roller wrote on Jul 21, 2006 10:24 PM:
" Sorry, Was I supposed to say NEXT! "
Roller wrote on Jul 20, 2006 7:55 PM:
" To David J. Embrios are not innocent life. At least not until baptized. "
David J wrote on Jul 20, 2006 6:52 AM:
" Where does this fantasy come from regarding Iraq and Sadaam supporting terrorists, especially those involved in 9/11? It is brought up over and over here but even the 9/11 Commission didn't find any evidence - I guess that is "Super Top Secret" and the current administration can't share with the public. The Clinton Adminsitration advocated regime change but wasn't stupid enough to achieve it with a war when our vital national interests were not at stake - and at the same time risk not achieving the real goal of "democracy" in the regiion. How much blood for a failed strategy and ncompetent execution? "
Re: To July 19, 10:02 a.m. wrote on Jul 19, 2006 9:38 PM:
" Well said. Republicans-- especially the leaders of this joke of an administration-- are such HYPOCRITES. They are buried up to their necks in all the stupidity they spew out. It's amazing how such a self-righteous group of people are the first to break their own code of "ethics." "
David Jarzemski wrote on Jul 19, 2006 6:55 PM:
" Once again, this thread is NOT about the War in Iraq. However to answer a post below, THE main justification for its continued funding IS well established: the goal is one of SELF DEFENSE. To stop the terrorists and all those who support or fund terrorists around the world. Saddam and Iraq WAS a supporter of various terror groups as has been documented, for those willing to see the evidence. In addition, regime change was endorsed by the Clinton administration. President Bush just did it. As evidence of our success in fighting terrorists, there has NOT been a repeat of 9-11 IN THIS COUNTRY in almost 5 years. If you are going to blame the president for things that go wrong, at least be adult enough to give him CREDIT for when things go right. Now back to embryonic stem cell funding... next: "
to David J wrote on Jul 19, 2006 6:10 PM:
" I do oppose all who continue to vote to fund the Iraq war. But it is YOU that cotinues to sound the trumpet in support of GW every chance you get. He is the man in charge, and he is the one who gets most of the blame. How can he support life with one veto, and destroy numerous lives with just about every other descision he makes. That is called being a hypocrite. Russ Feingold is about the only one out there who does what is right. RUSS IN 08! "
For Stem Cells wrote on Jul 19, 2006 5:44 PM:
" I'm not against stem cell research. There are already helpful treatments that use stem cells. On the other hand, I am with many people who do not think embryonic stem sell research is ethical. Why must we destroy embryos when there are many other sources of stem cells that are already proven to work? I say we should fund and explore adult stem cell research, but because it isn't as hotly debated, many don't know it exists or is as successful as it is. "
David Jarzemski wrote on Jul 19, 2006 4:15 PM:
" Let me repeat again: Government should NEVER fund anything that leads to the destruction of any innocent human life, especially funding for the killing of innocent human embryos. If anyone has a beef about the funding for the War in Iraq, call Sen. Hillary Clinton and many Democrats in the Congress, who continue to pass bills funding the War in Iraq. It is not just the big bad GOP or President Bush that continues to support the War in Iraq. (Oh, name calling will NEVER win any argument. I don’t take name caller’s reasoning seriously, and neither do any other intelligent posters on this Tribune site.) Now back to what this thread is all about... next: "
way to go David J wrote on Jul 19, 2006 3:56 PM:
" Your first line just contradicted every argument that you have ever made in support of the Iraq war. Try to keep track of which face you are speaking with! "
re David J wrote on Jul 19, 2006 2:56 PM:
" I gather from your comment that you strongly oppose the Presidents invasions of Iraq, with the government funding of the loss of innocent life (otherwise known as collateral damage). Period. CASE CLOSED. The interesting thing to me is that the radical "pro life"conservative/relgious wing of the Republican party is so dogmatic and inflexible about these types of issues but so nauseatingly gung-ho and willing to shoot first-ask no questions later when it comes to military matters. Hypocracy? Your mind is the only thing closed. "
To "David Jarzemski" wrote on Jul 19, 2006 1:49 PM:
" "Government should NEVER fund anything that leads to the destruction of any innocent human life." Right. Unless we're talking about Iraqi civilians. -Oliver "
To David J wrote on Jul 19, 2006 1:32 PM:
" I demand that my tax dollars be used for stem cell research -- it's a hell of a lot better than $380 billion spent on never-ending war foisted on this country by King George. In fact, they ought to study GW so that we can somehow prevent such "abortions" in the future. He claims to protect life, but he does more than anyone in the world to destroy it -- I just heard his rationale. What a crock of BS! Impeach this SOB ASAP! "
David Jarzemski wrote on Jul 19, 2006 12:22 PM:
" Government should NEVER fund anything that leads to the destruction of any innocent human life. Period. That IS the true pro-life position. President Bush is NOT stopping research on any aspect of stem cell research by his veto. If embryonic stem-cell research was so promising, as supporters proclaim, then why hasn't private investment flooded the research centers? Answer: because this kind of research has had one dismal failure after another, while ADULT stem cell research has had breakthrough after breakthrough. CASE CLOSED! "
To July 19 - 10:02 a.m. wrote on Jul 19, 2006 12:08 PM:
" God doesn't wage war - man does. God didn't elect Bush - man did. But who gave the researchers and doctors the gift of intelligence and courage so as to pursue this life-saving research? God did. Humanity is blessed and cursed with the gift of free will. Unfortunately, our misguided president will use his free will to veto funding for research to restore health and save lives. Why doesn't his "pro-life" attitude extend to the Iraq war? Embryo's must be preserved and soldiers can be slaughtered? "
To rprp wrote on Jul 19, 2006 11:03 AM:
" And I think newspapers should keep right-wing wingnut opinions like your's out of the paper -- how do you like those apples? Tax money can and should be used for the greater good of all humans. Medical research should not be stifled by religious fanatics who believe in fairy tales! Left up to people like you, we'd still have scourges like polio, smallpox, diptheria and more. I can't wait to hear Bush give his weasel excuses for his veto on stem cell research funding! The man is a disgrace! "
To X wrote on Jul 19, 2006 10:02 AM:
" Blah,blah,blah...please keep your "god" to yourself. If god is so great, why does he allow all the problems you cite. Your god is a jerk if all he seems to give us is war and poverty and disease. If he/she is so smart, why does he allow idiots like George Bush to be elected and bring in other criminals like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bolton et al. To heck with "god" -- let the stem cell research proceed so that we can save some lives! "
To: "Funding? or Approval to destroy?" wrote on Jul 19, 2006 9:58 AM:
" Google is your friend. And recent polls suggest that your "A LOT of people" don't even come close to a signficant percentage. For those of us who are directly affected by this issue, not just able to sit back and ponder pie in the sky theories, the very real possibility of regrowing damaged nerve tissue etc. is a boon and has given us more hope than any other treatment or research out there. Opposition to such breakthroughs is the (post?)modern retelling of Galileo's plight. And guess what: the world is not flat. -Oliver "
rprp wrote on Jul 19, 2006 9:37 AM:
" I think the liberal (progressive) newspaper should stay out of this debate, period. I think all newspaper editors should put their opinions in the trash can. Further, I believe no tax monies should be used to fund stem cell research. The medical researchers in this country has spent tons of money and spent a lot of time on research and even gave false hope for cures that eventually cured nothing. The researchers can,t claim a cure for anything that cures something that tax money paid for. I think research should be private and the cost past on when they discover something. I believe in research, I just don't believe the government should bear the total cost. It becomes like every government program a boon doggle ( hose the tax payer). "
Funding? or Approval to destroy? wrote on Jul 19, 2006 7:14 AM:
" Which do you want? Funding? or Approval to use the "certain to be destroyed" embryos? They seem to be totally different issues. A LOT of people would not want the use of human embryos for research to even be approved. And I'll bet there are even more that don't want the government paying for the research if it would be approved. And for the sake of the readers, could the Trib Editorial Staff name at least one major breakthrough discovered by human embryonic stem cell research? "
Stem cell research funding wrote on Jul 19, 2006 7:10 AM:
" Most likely it's never going to happen with a Republican President. But, it's going to happen sooner or later. Another country/countries will take the lead and eventually we will have enough votes to override a veto in this country even without a Democratic President.It just goes to show you how out of touch with the future this administration is. By the way, this will be President Bush's first veto in his six year's. WHY IN THE WORLD DOES HE WANT THE LINE ITEM VETO?! FDR had 635 vetoes and only nine were overturned. What a difference in Presidencies. "
X wrote on Jul 19, 2006 3:30 AM:
" People want it all and when you try pushing GODS buttons we will see this country self destruct.
It was HIS creation and we are stewards of His Gift to man.
Look around, see "any problems" today.
We pay when we play.. "
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