Daniel wrote on Jan 4, 2007 8:20 PM:
" Im illegal and i work here and i can read and write english. WHATS YOUR POINT?????? If you see me in the street one day come and say something to my face. Please
Always, your illegal friend Daniel "
Legal Citizen wrote on Aug 28, 2006 1:56 AM:
" As it is clear the federal government will not enforce our existing immigration laws (we do not need new ones) and defend our borders, it will be up to us at the local levels of our communities to turn this around. And we will need leaders such as Mayor Kimmel to represent us in what is truly a fight for the survival of our country as we know it. Please go to spp.gov and be prepared to be afraid, very afraid... "
Shirley Moe wrote on Aug 27, 2006 11:26 AM:
" Since illegals have been granted drivers licenses in Wisconsin, does that give them the right to vote here as well ? Send them all home . We can't take care of the world... "
Look At the Numbers wrote on Aug 25, 2006 2:26 AM:
" Enough with all the emotional rhetoric. Abide by the laws of this nation or suffer the consequences. Take a look at the presentation by Roy Beck at NumbersUSA.com
It will give you a better understanding as to what the real impact of illegal immigration is doing to America now and in the future. "
re guadalupe wrote on Aug 23, 2006 9:01 PM:
" have you met any of these illegals I work next to them everyday alot of them are driving 30, 40 , thousand dollar automobiles and wearing designer clothng hunger smunger. I am sure that the problems are very scary facing them in their OWN country but those problems exist in our own country with our own citizens when is the last time you visited a truly poor inner-city neighborhood "
jk wrote on Aug 22, 2006 9:35 PM:
" why is it that they can come into our country take our jobs, get help from the goverment? but if a single parent raising kids and trying to pay bills asks for help. we get turned down because the 9.00 dollars an hour we are making is to much,maybe if there was not so many illeagal people in this country we would have the jobs to support are own familys.
"
Tom wrote on Aug 22, 2006 6:37 PM:
" Let's see - unfeeling, uncaring, lazy, lawless, drunken - what else describes citizens who are upset about the way our government and business people view a ride on the U.S.S. Free Lunch? We can't help other peoples and nations by running our own country into the ground by flooding every state and big city with a sub-culture populated by illegals. Send them home and seal the border. Then start a controlled access policy that actually works. Then, maybe, the "cheap labor" who works "hard and honorably" will be sought out and respected by all. "
Guadalupe wrote on Aug 21, 2006 11:24 PM:
" I ask all of you citizens of Arcadia have you ever really suffered hunger? Have you heard the cry of hunger from your children and were unable to soothe this cry? Would you cross a border and risk your life to help your family in need? This is the situation of many of these immigrants. Now I ask myself, how did our society become so selfish and uncompassionate? "
Cesar Chavez wrote on Aug 21, 2006 11:15 PM:
" As a business owner its not that we like to hire undocumented immigrants. We hire people who are willing to work whether it may be with legal or false documentation. These employees pay taxes and social security. They pay property taxes every month through their landlord. So the actual root of the situation is the lack of hardworking employees in Wisconsin. "
John wrote on Aug 21, 2006 9:56 PM:
" I became unemployment and unable to look for job because of these illegal workers. They take awy my job and drain our community resources. We must report illegal immigrant and we must impose stiff fines on any employer who worked under the table to hire illegal immigrant for corporate profit.
Let's not forget that the reason illegal alien/worker are here in our community is because our local business were the one who recruit and hire them at the first place. Always look at the root of the cause. "
RanDomino wrote on Aug 21, 2006 7:01 PM:
" What's with all the "They!" talk? When did "they" stop being humans? "
Re: A bunch of hippocrites wrote on Aug 20, 2006 11:25 PM:
" You might find it hard to believe but yes there are law abiding citizens. Your comment has absolutely nothing to do with the debate. Your two wrongs make a right apporach is faulty because not every Legal citizen breaks the law, nor do foreign visitors on student and working visas, though EVERY illegal immigrant has already broken the law, hence the name illegal. "
DJ wrote on Aug 20, 2006 9:16 PM:
" ..someone from that sterling european giant, France, is criticizing us on OUR immigration policies? wow! "
A bunch of hippocrites wrote on Aug 20, 2006 8:51 PM:
" So you condemn the illegal aliens for using up resources. How many of you drink and drive? How many of you use illegal drugs? Aren't those things illegal? Aren't you using resources that could be put to better use even though you know better? Look at the big picture people. I agree that the illegal alien issue needs to be addressed but find it hard to believe that those of you so hardcore in your views don't follow the laws of your own city, county, country. "
Re: dumb hillbillies wrote on Aug 20, 2006 7:24 PM:
" Funny how a French citizen feels the need to be critical of us Wisconsinites for not accepting ILLEGAL immigrants. I'm in favor of LEEGAL immigration, but there is a difference a BIG one. I ask you to look at your own countries policies towards accepting immigrants. In fact France is one of the least accepting countries towards outsiders. so before you decided to call me and my regionites Hillbillies take a moment and address France's stance. "
Dodger wrote on Aug 20, 2006 4:16 PM:
" Where is the proof the employers send in their
tax withholdings?
If they do not have a SS number,who's number
do they use?
If they use yours,is the IRS going to come
after you because gross wages from the IRS
and SS do not match? "
They TAKE more than they give wrote on Aug 20, 2006 3:20 PM:
" They don't pay any property tax. Many pay no payroll or SS tax at all, as they are employed at day labor centers or are hired in other shady under the table ways. Most don't file and pay income tax. Most don't pay for valid car registration or insurance. They go to the E.R. for non-emergency free healthcare. Their illegal kids are given a free education and get free breakfast and free luch. They ARE eligible for welfare, WIC, foodstamps, TANF, Medicaid, SSI, and other programs. You guys just don't know how they play the game. Go research it. There are numberous ways they can become eligible for these programs. They claim they can't learn English, but they learn how to abuse the system for handouts within hours of arriving here. Its not about race. Mexican, Russian, Somalian, Cambodian, who cares. Send ALL these criminal leeches back.
"
dumb hillbillies wrote on Aug 20, 2006 3:12 PM:
" I´m a French citizen living in Wisconsin for a while and I see that you people who think the mexicans are a burden are such a hillbillies. For starters our 1st world countries have ripped off the whealth of these "3rd world countries" since the begining of mankind. If you don't know it the USA, Britain, China, Russia and yes France are the main arms dealers for the 3rd world countries, so they kill each other for our own profit... what about those politicians who are happy to see how they earn money while they drain the goods of these countries. You should be ashamed of even thinking of them as a burden it´s the least you can do, it has been your fault all the time! Have a really fair international trade, politics, etc and stop your whinning! "
DJ wrote on Aug 20, 2006 3:04 PM:
" ...perhaps Klos needs to remember that Jesus also said to "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"......in other words "be legaL" as a starting point for all dialogue. "
They TAKE more than they give wrote on Aug 20, 2006 1:42 PM:
" They don't pay any property tax. Many pay no payroll or SS tax at all, as they are employed at day labor centers or are hired in other shady under the table ways. Most don't file and pay income tax. Most don't pay for valid car registration or insurance. They go to the E.R. for non-emergency free healthcare. Their illegal kids are given a free education and get free breakfast and free luch. They ARE eligible for welfare, WIC, foodstamps, TANF, Medicaid, SSI, and other programs. You guys just don't know how they play the game. Go research it. There are numberous ways they can become eligible for these programs. They claim they can't learn English, but they learn how to abuse the system for handouts within hours of arriving here. Its not about race. Mexican, Russian, Somalian, Cambodian, who cares. Send ALL these criminal leeches back.
"
Hey Oz wrote on Aug 20, 2006 1:05 PM:
" Why stop at $10.00 for minimum wage? Why not $50.00? Wow, couldn't everyone live well. And we could put all kinds of businesses out of business. Yeah, I'm being saracastic, but someone has to pay these minimum wages, and obviously it isn't you. Try to run a business some time. "
Why? wrote on Aug 20, 2006 12:18 PM:
" Why are people so quick to judge? The Hispanics came here to fill the jobs that Americans don't want or won't do. There may be some bad apples in the bunch, but there are white skinned people who cause trouble too. I'm sure some of our precious tax dollars are paying for some of their issues as well. Yes, illegals bring issues this country needs to address. Perhaps one of those issues is dealing with the poor work ethic that many of our "legal" citizens have in today's society. "
Another side wrote on Aug 20, 2006 11:59 AM:
" I have my own thoughts on illegals which I'll keep private since there is no reasoned debate here, just hyperbole, however I would warn the Tribune to be careful who they use for sources.
The woman they keep citing as a representative of the Latino community on Arcadia is not very credible and is quite self-aggrandizing. "
Illegals wrote on Aug 20, 2006 11:26 AM:
" You broke our laws. Why compromise with criminals. There are PLENTY of law-abiding people that are waiting to become citizens here. If you break our laws just to work/live here how can we ever trust you will honor our laws in terms of criminal conduct. I applaude the mayor's actions, and if the illegals don't agree with them they can feel free to leave. "
Guy Wolf wrote on Aug 20, 2006 10:36 AM:
" "Illegal" workers pay Social Security, unemployment, workman's compensation, State and Federal Taxes. They will never receive a dime back from Social Security, unemployment taxes, or workman's comp. They are looking for the opportunity to work, SPEAK FREELY, and practice their faith.
Immigration laws began with the Naturalization Act of 1790. It stipulated that "any alien, being a free white person, may be admitted to become a citizen of the United States"
1882 The Chinese Exclusion Act prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States.
1885 and 1887 Alien Contract Labor laws which prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States.
1891 The Federal Government assumed the inspecting, admitting, rejecting, and processing all immigrants seeking admission to the U.S.
Most of our ancestors unless they were white, Protestant, and European, came here illegally until way into the 20th Century. "
Observing wrote on Aug 20, 2006 10:24 AM:
" Instead of referring to people as their "enemies" or "persecutors," maybe Klos should look for ways to help immigrants learn english, in order to be more successful in America, work toward fulfilling their legal requirements, and perhaps help them understand why some people don't like having our laws broken. Someone in Kloss's position could do a lot of good bringing the two sides together, but it looks like he would rather take sides. "
oz wrote on Aug 20, 2006 10:11 AM:
" The undercurrent of hate and racism in these comments sickens me. If we had a $10/hour minimum wage, there'd be plenty of "legal" citizens lining up to take the "jobs that Americans don't want." The real criminals here are the employers that pay wages so low that they have to import illegals to fill their jobs. Why aren't you "follow the law" people so adamant about that? And to all of you "the law is the law" people, we have a regime in Washington that commits war crimes and other illegal acts on a daily basis, but you all seem to be ok with THAT. "
Papa Bear wrote on Aug 20, 2006 9:49 AM:
" Note: the meeting probably had to be translated. It is simple. If they cannot speak or read the language, thye need to learn. If that is too hard for them, tough. I have no sympathy for law breakers or people who cannot support themselves. Quit thinking the US is nothing more than a guaranteed welfare check. You want to be here, deal with it. If not, leave. "
If wrote on Aug 20, 2006 9:47 AM:
" If you're legal, learn English and join our community, if you're not legal, go home. "
White Supremist wrote on Aug 20, 2006 9:24 AM:
" Deport them all... "
They aren't ALL illegal wrote on Aug 20, 2006 8:51 AM:
" Not all the immigrants are illegal. There are many legal immigrants in Arcadia, just like there are here in La Crosse. La Crosse also has a substantial Hmong refugee population. The point that Kimmel made, which buy the way is 100% true, is that these immigrants ARE a drain on the rest of us. WE have to pay for interpreters, language classes, and the like. The government needs interpreters, the churches, and the hospitals. We probably pay for four to five full time interpreters when you add it all up and YES this IS A DRAIN on the taxpayer. "
Illegal aliens wrote on Aug 20, 2006 8:26 AM:
" Bla Bla Bla! They are illegal aliens! What's there to discuss here?! "
Tom wrote on Aug 20, 2006 7:46 AM:
" Congratulations to the Mayor of Arcadia. This is exactly the type of action needed at the local level to control the growing number of hispanics in our country. This would not be necessary if so many who are here were not illegal non-citizens. People who aid illegal immigration fail to understand the distruction to our society being done by this sub-culture of millions of persons whose very activities encourage lawlessness throughout our nation. "
Clyde: wrote on Aug 20, 2006 7:11 AM:
" Is it Okay for MIGRANTS WITH OUT PAPERS to intimidate a community? Citizens that own taverns should be able to break the law by serving beer to 18 year olds and those 18 year olds should be able to drink with out fear of arrest like the MWOP. Where is Pedro Colon on creating more jobs for Wisconsin breweries by allowing 18 year old to drink without arrest? "
Bucko: wrote on Aug 20, 2006 6:19 AM:
" For the next meeting send out fliers in Sapnish noting on the agenda that agents of the INS will attend for a presentation on methods they use to deport MIGRANTS WITHOUT REAL PAPERS. Then, let us see if the meeting room gets packed and stuffy. FEAR TACTICTS?
No, laws are laws. If you do not enforce laws, people begin to believe it is their CIVIL RIGHT not to follow the LAW. "
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