Anti-war protesters cited for trespassing at Sen. Kohl's La Crosse office : La Crosse Tribune

To Ironic wrote on Sep 29, 2006 11:10 AM:

" Really? By the way, the "new" Iraq government is now prosecuting newspapers in Iraq. Yep, good thing our kids are dying for "democracy." What a farce and a waste of American lives. Sorry folks, they're dying for NOTHING other than George Bush's dirty little war! All of you who support George Bush and the war have the blood of innocents on your hands and face -- how do you feel when you look in the mirror and see someone who aids and abetts a murderer? "

reply to To "To the Protesters"...WAKE UP! wrote on Sep 29, 2006 11:08 AM:

" It is YOU that need to WAKE UP. Terrorists are like spoiled kids, they storm out of the room and into another to continue thier misdeeds. When we entered Afghanistan, the terrorist went into Irag where Saddum wasn't going to chase them out! You guys are so naive to think a boundary on a map will keep evil people on one side of that boundary. "

Darral, learn your Spanish wrote on Sep 29, 2006 10:39 AM:

" Local actually means premises, spot, place or scene. Loco means crazy. Just another example of your misguided posts. "

Why is it... wrote on Sep 29, 2006 10:37 AM:

" ...that some people have to turn every forum into an anti-gay or anti-abortion rant? Can't you stick to the subject at hand? There are plenty of opportunities to gripe about abortion. Please stay on topic. "

Local observer wrote on Sep 29, 2006 8:59 AM:

" This group knows how to play the media like a fiddle. They were probably disappointed they didn't get some face time on TV along with a story in the Tribune. On a somewhat related note: The alcohol task force and their social detox plan have been been getting a lot of press lately, even though they seem to be a solution in search of a problem. "Go home and go to bed," might not hurt someone not requiring medical treatment, but that dioesn't get much press coverage nor justify their existence. "

Ironic wrote on Sep 29, 2006 6:43 AM:

" anyone else think it is weird that Democrats (the party that likes the govenment to run our lives), are the ones complaining about us getting the dictator that ran people lives over there out of power. They can't stand to see people with a chance of freedom and being able to make their own decisions. "

Dean wrote on Sep 29, 2006 6:39 AM:

" I cant wait for the GOP convention at twin cities in 2 years "

to Patriot2 wrote on Sep 29, 2006 4:01 AM:

" What did I tell you, do not read to deep into things. There is a blog that said the pictures from Abu Ghraib show pictures of torture. I said they do not show pictures of torture they showed humiliation and not once did I say it was not a war crime. You took what I said and blew it way out of context. Qouting somebody elses writings does not make you smarter it makes you look silly because you cannot write your own stuff you must have others do it for you. "

Darral Faas wrote on Sep 29, 2006 12:56 AM:

" To Local Observer: Play with your oxymorons, but remember Local means crazy in Spanish, so does this mean you are making crazy observation. Something for you to think about. "

Darral Faas wrote on Sep 29, 2006 12:53 AM:

" I'd trust a liberal having sex than a conservative with a gun. While both are shooters, its the conservative with the gun that will cause more damage maybe even death. "

Patriot2 wrote on Sep 28, 2006 10:35 PM:

" Mr. Warrior, while I respect the Ojibwe, remember that Clinton's crime was lying about sex between two consenting adults. If he had his attention diverted, please recall that it was the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS that spent all of the time deciding whether the President, by lying about what he called sex was committing a high crime or misdemeanor. That it was Richard Clarke who asked this Administration to pay attention to OBL and it was this President who preferred to concentrate on the Strategic Defense Initiative instead. "

Patriot2 wrote on Sep 28, 2006 10:32 PM:

" How could any liberal be accused of thinking? We advocate for children and women. How stupid. We are opposed to torture. Unbelievable. We don't think the President is above the law. Incredible. We think Social Security is great for seniors. Outrageous. We believe in protecting the environment. Absurd. We think that search warrants should be obtained before wiretapping. Unthinkable! Public Education? Nuts. You are right. We don't think at all. We UNDERSTAND. "

Patriot2 wrote on Sep 28, 2006 10:29 PM:

" It is ironic that you conservatives who claim you advocate smaller government want to have police power to monitor the comings and going of women's private parts. To regulate their fertility, controlling their access to reproductive planning services worldwide, denying them access to contraceptives, emergency morning-after pills, sex-education, and yes abortions. While I understand the need to minimize abortions, I shall always defend the right of women to determine their own body's destiny and to have abortion services delivered in a safe fashion. "

To: 6:10 PM Poster wrote on Sep 28, 2006 9:21 PM:

" How's this for an oxymoron, a thinking Liberal? - Local Observer "

To:Patriot2 wrote on Sep 28, 2006 7:19 PM:

" It is amusing you are so much against torture, but have no objection to a baby being ripped from its mothers womb and killed(albeit with the mothers consent) "

John, John, John... wrote on Sep 28, 2006 6:15 PM:

" Whatever happened to you? When did you become such a sellout? "

Can't handle the truth wrote on Sep 28, 2006 6:15 PM:

" So, a "friendly exchange" leads the senator's assistant to call the police? So much for responding to voters' interests! "

SLIDER wrote on Sep 28, 2006 6:13 PM:

" They have every right to protest, in fact I wish it would get like during the Viet Nam Conflict that would be the correct way to protest. "

Re: Local Observer wrote on Sep 28, 2006 6:10 PM:

" Why don't you tell us why George Bush is soo great because all you ever do is complain about liberals. What an oxymoron, you complain about liberals complaining. "

Patriot2 wrote on Sep 28, 2006 6:08 PM:

" Torture? How about this from ABC News: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/22/AR2005112201692.html "Last is "waterboarding," a technique that's already been widely reported. According to the information supplied to ABC: "The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt." ABC quoted its sources as saying that CIA officers who subjected themselves to waterboarding "lasted an average of 14 seconds before caving in." Please don't tell me Americans don't torture. It is bad enough to do it. Worse to deny it. "

Patriot2 wrote on Sep 28, 2006 6:00 PM:

" Torture? Let me quote Article 3(c) of the Geneva Conventions, a violation of which is considered a war crime (http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm) "(c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment;" You are right. These were humiliating and degrading treatments. And torture or war crime, they should be prosecuted and perpetrators punished. "

Torture? wrote on Sep 28, 2006 10:28 AM:

" There was no torture at Abu Ghraib, those pictures did not show torture they showed humiliation. I am not sticking up fo what happened just letting you know there is a difference between humiliating someone and torturing someone. Do not read to deep into what you saw. "

To: Patriot2 wrote on Sep 28, 2006 9:19 AM:

" Where is your proof that Bush EVER lied as the President of the United States. I've shown PROOF that Clinton is a liar. You're only professing your OPINION that Bush is a liar. Where's the PROOF? You say Bush lied about torture. That's YOUR opinion. You say Bush lied about WMD's. I say that's your OPINION. You also have an OPINION about wiretapping that differs from A LOT of people. All you have provided is OPINIONS. Where's the PROOF? - Local Observer "

Ojibwe Warrior wrote on Sep 28, 2006 9:17 AM:

" *aaniin* As a note of correction, Clinton lied under oath (perjury) and suborned perjury of others in a legal case. Essentially, the chief executive officer, charged with enforcing the laws of our republic, violated the very principle of our judicial system. Any wonder kids commit wanton acts of random violence with this role model? While Clinton was busy holding on to his grip of power, al-Qaeda pulled off numerous attacks and plotted and planned 9/11? *miigwech* "

To: 8:36 PM Poster wrote on Sep 28, 2006 9:10 AM:

" Read the 11:13 AM Post. If you can't tell who the liar is after reading this post, please seek professional help immediately. - Local Observer "

Patriot2 wrote on Sep 28, 2006 7:12 AM:

" You are right. Clinton lied about sex between him and Monica. And he did it under oath. But why should anyone be asking a President of the United States about his sex life? Has Bush lied? He said we don't torture. We do. Did YOU see the pictures of Abu Ghraib? The rest of the world did. And torture between two non-consenting adults is worse than sex. Violates something called the "War Crimes Act'. Maybe you never heard of that. The President and Vice-President lied to us about WMD's. The President broke the law by not consulting with FISA Courts before wiretapping. Worse than lying about sex with Monica. Bush threatens American freedom. Clinton threatened his marriage. "

BTW wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:46 PM:

" Bush and Clinton are both liars: they are POLITICIANS! That is all the proof you need. "

TO: who pays her salery? wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:44 PM:

" Good point. Can we say "professional protestor"? I guess she hasn't learned her lesson being locked up either. "

Put on some shoes and cut your hair wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:28 PM:

" You hippies gotta understand: Saddam, Bush, and Osama all met together and conspired against Clinton in 1998 and planned this whole thing. If you libs would come over to the dark side it would become clear: Saddam told Bush to plan 9/11 and blame it on Bin Laden. You silly people. The whole lot of you politicians and political activists and protestors are idiots and are made for each other. Enjoy! "

Arrest em all..... wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:19 PM:

" ....and turn em over to the CIA for torture. They are worse than the terrorists! "

They were right to do a sit-in. wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:15 PM:

" When citizens of a democracy see that their government is committing crimes, it is their responsibility to protest them. The protesters on Monday followed their consciences and took direct action, but remained peaceful and cooperative throughout. Their methodology was no different than that of the early civil rights movement. The majority of Americans now disagree with the way the Bush administration is handling Iraq. Americans should let their voices be heard on both sides, especially in times like these. "

RE: To: Great...(1:09 PM Poster) wrote on Sep 27, 2006 8:36 PM:

" You only proved your an idiot. Where is the proof you professed to prove? "

to: reply to gary wrote on Sep 27, 2006 6:38 PM:

" you liberals continue to blame america for all of the worlds ills. bush is doing a great job protecting us here at home. why do you think that 70% of america sides with the g.o.p. on the war on terror ? i'll tell you why. because all you libs do is complain,complain and blame. just once i would like to here a liberal give me a comprehensive plan for iraq and the war on terror. stop with the blame america first crap. "

RIGHT ON! wrote on Sep 27, 2006 4:59 PM:

" I couldn't be prouder of our small community's unwillingness to sit idly by and wait for Kohl to change his tune. I wish that more people had the courage of these six to SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER. "

who pays her salary? wrote on Sep 27, 2006 4:34 PM:

" i found one paragraph ver interesting... "Vaughn said she�s lost count of the number of times she�s been jailed for nonviolent protests, but her longest stint was three weeks". doesn't she work? or is all she has to do in life is protest? i think that would e sad existance. and as an added note, when she does her 'stints' in jail, who pays for her food and lodging? "

JT wrote on Sep 27, 2006 3:21 PM:

" What a waste of money and time! And good ole Johnny M. still milking a public job. I'm sure they did conspire to call the police so it would get in the paper. "

a nurse wrote on Sep 27, 2006 3:07 PM:

" The war against Iraq is costing U.S. taxpayers 11 million dollars per hour. Iraq never did anything to the United States. Where else would people defending their own country be labeled as insurgents or terrorists? "

500 Billion Dollars was not wasted. wrote on Sep 27, 2006 3:02 PM:

" It went into the pockets of US corporations like Dick Cheney's Haliburton with their offshore corporate charters to avoid US income tax. There are a FEW 'Americans' who benefited. "

To: Great...(1:09 PM Poster) wrote on Sep 27, 2006 2:28 PM:

" I just proved that Clinton IS a liar. Need I say more? Where's YOUR proof that Bush is a liar? I keep hearing from Liberals that Bush is a liar. PROVE IT! - Local Observer "

Yay, nonviolent civil disobedience is alive and well. wrote on Sep 27, 2006 2:26 PM:

" Well, at least we have "liberals" who are willing to take the consequences for their own actions. That's more than I can say for the neocons who are willing to let other people die for their delusions and the nutjobs of the religious right who blame gays for those deaths. When I see either the Bush twins or Fred Phelps' family in combat boots, maybe I'll take their commitment to fighting terrorism seriously. When I see bin Laden's head on the pike, I might actually take their competence seriously. But I'm not holding my breath for either. "

Rove wrote on Sep 27, 2006 1:56 PM:

" So do two taxpayer leeches make a right? "

Ha ha! wrote on Sep 27, 2006 1:37 PM:

" They shoulda thrown away the key! If Medinger hadn't called the cops, they would probably not have made the paper,so that is probably why he called. Of course, we know the libs don't have to "do" anything to get press from the Tribune. "

Liberals wrote on Sep 27, 2006 1:23 PM:

" Never, never, never trust a Liberal. *repeat over an over again until it sinks in. "

Iran people wrote on Sep 27, 2006 1:20 PM:

" If iraq is Democery We dont want any part of it "

Great... wrote on Sep 27, 2006 1:09 PM:

" Now a bunch of liberal extremists are wasting our taxpayer money by trespassing on private property. This is something they should be ashamed of for wasting the police department's time. As for the local observer, what proof do you have that clinton's allegations are false? Clinton may have lied but over 2,500 American soldiers and thousands of civilians didn't die from it. "

To: 10:43 AM Poster wrote on Sep 27, 2006 12:37 PM:

" What does he actually DO on the taxpayer's dime while in Kohl's local office, answer the telephone and open mail? Can't Kohl just get someone from Kelly Services for that function? Admit it, he's a Kohl puppet. If you look R-E-A-L close you can see the strings. I'm not saying that he HAS to do anything. But you know as well as I that Medinger is AGAINST the war in Iraq. And it's got to be just killing him that he's NOT ALLOWED to say so. - Local Observer "

lifelong Democrat wrote on Sep 27, 2006 12:00 PM:

" These domestic terrorists are our own home-brewed version of the thugs and bullies that hijacked planes on 9/11, bombed the USS Cole, bombed our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, bombed the Khobar towers, and bombed the WTC in 1993. (Among countless other bombings and terror assaults.) John did the right thing having them arrested. Political discourse is necessary for a democracy to perservere. Terror and bullying are not. Kudos to Medinger and the LaX Police. "

Michael Welch: Three Outta Four Ain't "Bad"... wrote on Sep 27, 2006 11:43 AM:

" Like many others I actually know some of these people; Gail Vaughan and June Kjome are certainly intrepid, dogged and suffused with the integrity that, say, a Herb Kohl does not possess. John Medinger is, of course, an honest man who has (usually) been an adept politician; as someone who has also been opposed to abortion (like uh, Chip DeNure) John's hardly a 'typical' liberal -- though unabashedly liberal he is. Personally, I wish John were a US senator and Kohl, well, shall we say 'comfortably retired.' All names (but one! guess!) mentioned above are against this awful war... "

To: The 10:37 AM Poster wrote on Sep 27, 2006 11:13 AM:

" The Liberals have no solutions, nor any ideas. All they are capable of doing is COMPLAINING. Liberals are mad that their power was taken away over tweny years ago, and they'll do ANYTHING to get it back. Did anyone see how Clinton was waving his finger at Chris Wallace the other day during the FOX interview? Didn't he do the same finger waving when he stated, "I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false." And the Liberals say BUSH is a liar? - Local Observer "

Medinger's People Revolt! Film at Eleven. wrote on Sep 27, 2006 11:10 AM:

" This is too funny. The biggest Liberal in town has to call the police when HIS own people revolt against him. John would have given anything to be protesting himself. I wonder where their "friendly" exchange went bad? Did they disagree on who is the most out of touch with reality. PROTESTERS: Move to Venezuela and take your Leader John with you. "

To "To the Protesters"...WAKE UP! wrote on Sep 27, 2006 11:06 AM:

" Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. When will people learn this!!! The war has only turned Iraq into a terrorist haven. Bush is after Bin Laden, he's not. Bush says he's a threat/Bush isn't concerned....Talk about Flip Flop! What other terrorist threats? What do you know we don't? "

to Local Observer wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:43 AM:

" I repeat: He's not AFRAID; he's using tact to keep his job and keep food on his family's table like every other American - he needs to do that my friend and you have no position to say that he shouldn't or can't. Just because the man's been in public service doesn't mean he is endebted to speak to every issue in every circumstance for the rest of his life. Get a clue, man! Get a clue. "

To the protesters wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:37 AM:

" Ok, IF we did pull out of the war immediately, what is your position on 9/11 and other terrorists attempts against America? What would you do? "

to the Leech: How much taxpayer money is Karl Rove getting paid? wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:26 AM:

" I'd bet my left arm it is many, many times what John Medinger is getting. "

Hippie Liberal wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:22 AM:

" I feel that the antiwar protesters were doing nothing wrong and should not have been arrested. Someone needs to get the message out that we must cease our imperialist aims in Iraq. The people do not want us there, and we are only creating a hotbed of terrorism by our very prescence. Democracy does NOT work for every country, and we should not force it on Iraq. We have only made things worse. "

Reply to gary wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:13 AM:

" Because Bush only listens to God, I mean his gut. Not to mention Congress has the power and ability to get us out whether its via cutting funds, passing laws and/or resolutions, and if those both fail (I have a feeling they would) impeaching the President. I would say if their is one man I'd dislike to see as President more than Bush, it'd have to be Cheney. Needless to say, I'm certainly not for impeachment at this point... we'd have to impeach a lot of people to get this administration out of control. "

The Leech wrote on Sep 27, 2006 10:12 AM:

" And just how much of the taxpayers money is John getting paid here? "

gary wrote on Sep 27, 2006 9:01 AM:

" It Wasnt Kohl Who ied YS into war ,WHY PROTEST THERE? "

2706 wrote on Sep 27, 2006 8:54 AM:

" as of September 26, 2007 and $500,000,000,000+ that could have paid for police, roads, tuition, health care, child care, elder care, business development ... Get your WAR on. "

To: 8:19 AM Poster wrote on Sep 27, 2006 8:43 AM:

" Medinger's unafraid to express his views? He obviously is on THIS issue. You know darn well what HIS views are. Problem is, the puppeteer WON'T LET HIM SPEAK! He OBVIOUSLY has no backbone either. Why does he have this job working for Kohl? Apparently just being on the County Board doesn't pay ALL of the bills. Medinger's a typical Liberal. Whine about everything you don't like. No solutions for anything. On both sides of every issue. - Local Observer "

Defending Mr. Medinger wrote on Sep 27, 2006 8:19 AM:

" He's not a puppet. He was simply doing his job, like you said. Would you publicly bash the policies of your employer? I think not. John Medinger is outspoken and unafraid to express his views. He chooses to do so in the appropriate forum, that's all. If he is a typical Liberal, then I'm on board that train and it's headed in the opposite direction as the GET RICH GET POWERFUL RULE THE EARTH Conservatives. "

This is news?? wrote on Sep 27, 2006 8:14 AM:

" Let's see...the protesters and Medinger decided that the police should be called after a 'friendly' exchange. That must have been part of the grand plan. They obviously wanted to be arrested to make news and, of course, the Tribune goes along with it. Question...why didn't the police just shoo them out of the building so Medinger could lock up and go home? There would have been no arrests and subsequently no news of this in today's paper. Nothing new here, this was just a ploy to make news where there really isn't any. "

Wanda wrote on Sep 27, 2006 7:17 AM:

" After hearing this, I expect the US to pull out of Iraq tomorrow. "

June wrote on Sep 27, 2006 7:00 AM:

" It is time you stay away from such things. You can get your message out without such actions. "

Local Observer wrote on Sep 27, 2006 6:50 AM:

" Isn't it great? Medinger wouldn't comment. You KNOW he had to be just biting his lip. Medinger is a tree hugger himself. If he han't had the job working for Kohl, Medinger would have been one of the protesters himself. But, John is just a puppet for Kohl, and said nothing. John, you are a typical Liberal. No guts, and on both sides of EVERY issue. "

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