To 3:31 pm poster wrote on Oct 21, 2006 8:42 AM:
" One of the solutions is to not make anymore of it.Nobody has all the answers,but it doesn't help anyone to keep making more of the problem. When your in a hole, stop digging. "
Ok Its settled then... wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:31 PM:
" ...we'll just leave it in Genoa then, until Ellen McCabe tells us what the solution is. "
Eileen McCabe wrote on Oct 18, 2006 10:55 PM:
" Nuclear waste has never been “stored” or “disposed of” successfully. Take a look at the paint cans holding plutonium at Los Alamos, the unlined trenches at Hanford leaking waste into the Columbia River, the burials at SRS in GA leaking into the Savannah River. Given the revelation of the falsified hydrologic data, the geologic instability of the area (volcanic and seismic) and the contrary data presented by the State of Nevada about corrosion time for the cask drip shields for Yucca Mountain, do we really believe that the 77,000 tons of high-level nuclear waste (or more if Sen. Domenici has his way) will not eventually leak into the huge aquifer that lies beneath, that feeds the agricultural areas of the southwest?
Shundahai Network www.shundahai.org
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re: wrote on Oct 18, 2006 5:28 PM:
" Genoa isn't making the waste anymore so that reactor is a liability. If you want to keep it there instead of safely transporting it to somebody that wants to take the risk, we'll just leave it there then. Is that better? Nuclear waste doesn't just go away by itself. Centrally locating and storing it makes more sense than leaving it spread out all over the U.S. Especially the waste from reactors no longer in use. So yes when you go around with your doomsday device warnings you are over-reacting on a nuclear scale so to speak. Right now it is the safest most reasonble solution to store it in South Carolina.WBW "
To WBW wrote on Oct 17, 2006 9:39 PM:
" So you think were "over reacting" huh? Just where do you think all this waste is going to go if we keep making it? This isn't like a normal landfill. Man has always lived on top of his trash but this is different.And way more dangerous for us and future generations. Don't you care about any of that? "
re: WBW cont. wrote on Oct 17, 2006 2:45 PM:
" That material is so safe that if the train derailed the "cask" would stay intact longer than any other chemical containers currently on our rail system and highways. On the remote possibility of a leak, it would be a very isolated exposure. Rescue workers and first responders would most likely the only ones exposed and would be donning PPE before they got there. So there is much "hulaboo" over next to nothing. I would be more worried about our unprotected chemical storage.WBW "
re: WBW wrote on Oct 17, 2006 2:42 PM:
" I do understand, I am one of the "owners" so I have a right to correct errors and flawed logic. My job in the military also gave me insider info about radioactivity. That material is protected so it doesn't get into the hands of terrorists. It could be used to make a "dirty" bomb. I won't get into the specifics, but the material wouldn't be encased in concrete and steel if a terrorist moved it or used it in a bomb. (Yes he would probably die from radiation poisoning, hopefully before he got it anywhere, but he's a terroist so he doesn't care if he dies.) The material will be safer when it is transported and stored than it technically is now. (Although it is fairly safe now.) You nuclear activists are over-reacting. Like I said nobody wants it in their backyard, but complains when somebody will take it. "
Eileen McCabe wrote on Oct 17, 2006 11:58 AM:
" I appreciate Gail Vaughn’s comments. As a resident of Utah, 45 miles from the Goshute reservation, and a member of an advocacy organization that works with the Goshutes, I can tell you that there are many on the reservation that do not want the waste storage facility, and have fought for years to stop it. They cite irregular decision making, and the elections that Chairman Leon Bear canceled since the BIA ignored election that ousted him in 2001.
The Western Shoshone do not want Yucca Mountain to be a nuclear waste dump, and have never ceded the land to the federal government. It has been stolen from them. If we can’t find ways to deal with our waste except by stealing and fouling resources that belong to others, we need other methods of power generation.
Shundahai Network www.shundahai.org
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Eileen McCabe wrote on Oct 17, 2006 11:45 AM:
" I appreciate Gail Vaughn’s comments. As a resident of Utah, 45 miles from the Goshute reservation, and a member of an advocacy organization that works with the Goshutes, I can tell you that there are many on the reservation that do not want the waste storage facility, and have fought for years to stop it. They cite irregular decision making, and the elections that Chairman Leon Bear canceled since the BIA ignored election that ousted him in 2001.
The Western Shoshone do not want Yucca Mountain to be a nuclear waste dump, and have never ceded the land to the federal government. It has been stolen from them. If we can’t find ways to deal with our waste except by stealing and fouling resources that belong to others, we need other methods of power generation.
Eileen McCabe
Shundahai Network www.shundahai.org
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To WBW wrote on Oct 17, 2006 7:01 AM:
" Just goes to show you that nuclear power isn't as safe or cost effective as Republicans always try to tell people.We as a country shouldn't be producing anything that can't be disposed of safely. "
WBW wrote on Oct 16, 2006 9:18 PM:
" Obviously you don't understand that Dairyland Power is customer owned. Every citizen has the right to know and to ask questions. The point is..Dairyland Power is going back on their word. Perhaps you can also explain why there is high security at the plant, why there is a "no fly zone" over the plant, why if the waste is so safe ..you can't name a single insurance company that will insure its safety on the rails. Why does Joe Public have to cover the costs? NAME ONE PUBLICLY OWNED INSURANCE COMPANY..COME ON>>> "
Local Observer wrote on Oct 16, 2006 9:02 AM:
" Can we make a TIF District out of it? "
DB wrote on Oct 15, 2006 8:40 PM:
" Here's a thought. How was the highly radioactive material transported to Genoa in the first place? Send the low level waste back to where it came from in the same manner it was shipped here. "
just the facts please wrote on Oct 15, 2006 5:09 PM:
" The quotes from Gail Vaughn, a "nuclear activist," are made without any scientific knowledge regarding radiation and nuclear waste. She is not identified as having any expertise in this area yet the Tribune quotes her as if she is a reliable source. Her inflammatory remarks are incorrect, as even the most cursory research into the subject shows, and serve only to play upon the fears of the public. Shame on the Tribune! "
The real deal wrote on Oct 15, 2006 1:40 PM:
" Ship it to IOWA, it is closer and there is plenty of land to use. Might give the folks down there something to talk about.
Olie: Is your garden ready?
Swen: Should be, its been glowing all winter. "
re: Guy Wolf wrote on Oct 15, 2006 12:28 PM:
" You people need to make up your minds. You suffer from "not in my backyard" syndrome. Nobody wants it in their "backyard", yet when somebody proposes to move it, the other backyard owners complain. When you finally find someone that wants it in their backyard (for the right price) you complain about how to get it there. This material will be transported as safely as it possibly can. There is far less chance of radiation exposure than there is chemical exposure from chemical tanks driving down our highways. Those white capsule shaped tanker trucks aren't hauling milk you know. Milk is in the shiny ones. Hazardous materials are just that, but if handled properly they aren't any more dangerous than any other cargo traveling by road or rail. Besides when was the last radioactive leak from a train derailment that killed hundreds of people? Never, it never happened. WBW "
Guy Wolf wrote on Oct 15, 2006 10:23 AM:
" What is discouraging is that Dairyland Power promised at the ONLY PUBLIC HEARING, more tha n a year ago, to start a citizens committee to assist Dairyland Power in the decision process. To date, not a single meeting has been held, no information to those living near the reactor has been sent, and the project moves ahead.
"Radioactive materials are only dangerous when they get into the wrong hands...mishandled or leaked." Putting casks on the railroad and transporting them across country, running across TENS OF THOUSANDS of railroad crossings is safe? Let's look at train safety. Quit the smoke and mirrors. Let's the democratic process begin and encourage citizens (consumers) participate. "
to Gail Vaughn wrote on Oct 15, 2006 1:47 AM:
" What would you rather see, leave it be? There is a lot about nuclear radiation you obviously don't undertand. In the way it will be shipped and stored, it will not create "dead zones" in South Carolina any more than Genoa and the Mississippi River are "dead zones" from the reactor. Radiation is naturally occuring. The biggest natural ractor is the sun. That is filtered through tons of atmosphere of course. Radioactive materials are only dangerous when they get into the wrong hands and intentionally used as a weapon or mishandled and accidently leaked. Neither of those are likely to happen in this case. WBW "