Boycott Downtown Bars until something is done to Walkway of Death? wrote on Oct 24, 2006 3:56 PM:
" Come on! Seriously! How bout not walk twords the river? "
k wrote on Oct 22, 2006 10:17 PM:
" i think its maybe a woman that has some grudges against uwl guys maybe she got raped then she gets these guys to walk down to the river to be together and then she pushes them in just a thought "
old wise one wrote on Oct 22, 2006 12:49 PM:
" The drinking culture in lacrosse has to stop- If I were college aged male, I would surely be careful how much I drank. I would not want to be the next target. If there were no more targets for this so called serial killer, then the killings would stop or this serial killer would move on to another "drunken college aged male town" So, the answer seems pretty logical to me - stop getting wasted and you will protect yourself. Key words PROTECT YOURSELF. "
Read the archives wrote on Oct 20, 2006 8:59 AM:
" For all of you people that keep insisting this was never mentioned before, read in the Tribune by doing a search for homan. You will find an article that was published OCTOBER 4th entitled Officials rule student's death drowning. In that article it was mentioned that the police picked up another student that had been at the same party, staggering toward riverside park. NO BIG SECRETS!!! "
To: HOMELESS PEOPLE wrote on Oct 20, 2006 7:36 AM:
" The homeless people are smart enough not to fall in the river. "
Great big child safety gates? wrote on Oct 20, 2006 7:35 AM:
" It’s ridiculous that we have to have discussions about putting up fences to keep irresponsible "kids" from falling into the river. Why don’t we get giant child safety gates to protect these "kids"? Then we could fold them up during the day when the grown-ups are around. If they act like 2 years olds - let's treat them that way. "
re 8:21PM wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:18 PM:
" Stop living in the past, times have changed old timer. Cops didn't antagonize someone who was oviously incapacitated to the point to be drunk and disorderly. They aren't a taxi service. I don't want my taxes paying for that, I want them to enforce the law and protect the public! I'm sick of drunken vandals and houligans. "
suggestion wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:16 PM:
" One simple suggestion. Schedule more police officers on the night shift. I realize this is not a preferred shift for most, but we need the officers on the shift they are needed most. (I meet at least 3-4 cars every morning on my way to work around 8a.m. - not a high crime hour in this sleepy town!) "
No doubt wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:40 PM:
" There is no doubt that alcohol is a factor in these tragedies. However there are questions that cannot be answered and alcohol cannot be the only solution as it has been around alot longer than the start of these drownings. There was a day when the booze flowed alot freer, the drinking age was younger, and public opinion was much more positive towards drinking than now and there were no drownings then. Why does this seem to happen along the Mississippi? Why don't people drown in the ocean during spring break when binge drinking is even more prevelant? Why are women not involved? Until there are more answers rash actions should not be taken. I prefer not to look through a chain link fence to see the Mississippi. "
To: Re handcuffs and reply to handcuffs wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:21 PM:
" Actually, I recall a day if cops found you drunk, they took you home...they didn't antagonize you into getting a drunk & disorderly. You are probably either too young or stupid to remember those days...when cops looked out for you rather than doing whatever it took to make an arrest. And yes, I did read the article; you clearly take what was written as gospel. If you don't read the paper, you are uninformed; if you do read the paper, you are misinformed. Go away. "
to Where were all of you? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:02 PM:
" I was wondering when somebody would bring that up. I am a friend of that man's father. I didn't feel right bringing it up, but I'm glad someone did, lest we forget. "
re: to Natural Selection wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:59 PM:
" A Yeah....I don't care. That is pretty obvious isn't it? If the shoe fits.... "
To: Not Jim, Jack or Sam wrote on Oct 19, 2006 5:45 PM:
" Excellent point. Ever heard of a Jagerbomb? Jagermeister mixed with Red Bull. Jager=liquor that causes you to blackout. Red Bull=energy drink so you can keep partying and drinking. You see those served downtown all the time. However, it isn't bar owners who are at fault-it's everyone's personal responsibility to keep their senses about them when they drink downtown. It's ridiculous how people pick this situation apart and analyze it into the ground. Spend one evening at the Helm or John's or Coconut Joe's and the cause of these drownings will be all too obvious. "
HOMELESS PEOPLE wrote on Oct 19, 2006 5:39 PM:
" OK...HOW COME NONE OF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WE SEE WALKING IN THE AREA OF THE BREWERY ARE FOUND FLOATING IN THE RIVER?PLUS THEY LIVE RIGHT BY THE RIVER!!!!AND THEY ARE DRUNKER THAN TWO COLLEGE KIDS PUT TOGETHER. I JUST DON'T GET IT. "
To Natural Selection wrote on Oct 19, 2006 5:19 PM:
" Friends and Family members of these young men are still in town and may be reading these comments. Have some class! "
Re handcuffs and reply to handcuffs wrote on Oct 19, 2006 5:03 PM:
" Read the article! HOW could they have taken the guy home if he was bound determined to head "home" toward the river?? They tried reasoning with him but he just kept trying to break away and head for the river. THAT's when and why they handcuffed him -- to prevent another drowning. You should be thanking the police, instead of tearing them apart! And those of you demanding to know why this was only reported now, also need to keep up. It WAS reported immediately that another intoxicated individual was picked up that same night Homan drowned; it's just that his name and BAC level weren't released yet. Maybe you had too much to drink too if you can't remember that. "
To: Jack D wrote on Oct 19, 2006 4:50 PM:
" RIGHT ON!! "
Where were all of you? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 4:12 PM:
" Everyone is so up in arms about these college kids from out of town that can't seem to stay out of the river. Where were you when a local kid last spring who did the same thing. He was drunk ran into the river and after an extensive search was found dead in the river. I guess since he's a local kid, and it happened up in Onalaska on the Black River, he's just not as important as all these "special" out of town college kids. This just proves this entire issue isn't about lives, its about politics. "
TO Something would be done if PT2 wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:58 PM:
" Liberty shall not be taken at the opinion of a few...
So whats next....walls around the streets? Cause you know I bet more people die from being hit by a car than falling in water. Better yet lets wall up your house, that way YOU feel safe and you don't have to worry about others hurting you.
This is natural selection just as if they were drunk driving. Just because someone isnt driving drunk doesnt mean they cant get hurt or die. I bet you were just as much a partier as the students these days, and just mad you cant anymore. "
to "something would be done with PT1 wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:54 PM:
" You have got to be kidding me....Ok smarty lets boycott the grocery stores cause you can obviously DRIVE from the store to the water. You can obviously eat food next to the water, might as well boycott restuarants. Whats next? Guys LISTEN...let the fools who CANT CONTROL THEMSELVES live their own life. WHO THE HECK ARE YOU to tell them what they can and can't do? Go to Norht Korea if you feel the need to control someone or be controlled. It starts with a wall and ends with Auschwitz. Whats to say that your bright-eyed idea of a wall doesnt make someone WALK over the two bridges and maybe jump from there? "
to david jarzemski wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:48 PM:
" just one question for you. why do you think that a theroy of a serial killer is embarrasing? i am one of those people who have this theroy, and i am not embarrased about it at all. i tell everyone i know, and if a conversation come up about the river drownings, i metion it then too. this is not a foolish theroy, i think that there is a serial killer because there are too many simalarities in the cases. not just drunk, uwl, athlete males ranging in the age of 21 to 23 go and get drunk and "wander" to the levy(almost in the same exact spot) every couple of years. "
To: Handcuffs? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:38 PM:
" He was put in handcuffs, because that is what the police do to people who they arrest for fighting with them. If you don't want to be put in handcuffs don't break the law! I can't believe how stupid some of you people are! "
Re handcuffs and reply to handcuffs wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:34 PM:
" Read the article! HOW could they have taken the guy home if he was bound determined to head "home" toward the river?? They tried reasoning with him but he just kept trying to break away and head for the river. THAT's when and why they handcuffed him -- to prevent another drowning. You should be thanking the police, instead of tearing them apart! And those of you demanding to know why this was only reported now, also need to keep up. It WAS reported immediately that another intoxicated individual was picked up that same night Homan drowned; it's just that his name and BAC level weren't released yet. Maybe you had too much to drink too if you can't remember that. "
Boingo wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:32 PM:
" I have the perfect plan for these kids. When they go downtown to the bars, they have to put on an invisible fence dog collar. With cables buried before Riverside park, the kids only have to walk within feet of it before the shock turns them back. They dont drink until the collar goes on "
To: Dan Part 1 and 2 wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:28 PM:
" I hear you loud and clear, these kids have no respect. To 'wondering' - YOU are the one that needs to wake up. Try looking both ways before crossing the street, my five year old son can do it. "
BOB wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:26 PM:
" Im not just talking about this last kid that was heading for destruction as a copycat. I have seen every one of these drownings occur while I lived here and I am talking about the copycat mentality beginning a few years ago after the first couple of deaths. Before a student comes to town to attend UWL, one of the first things they hear is the " MISSISSIPPI RIVER DROWNINGS". This is tucked away in their beer soaked minds until one night downtown, they get so drunk that they wander toward the river. Subliminal? maybe. Copycat? possibly. Killer? No "
convienient wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:24 PM:
" It's just SO convienient how all of these articles are being published (since Luke's death) talking about all the drunks heading towards the river, and some kind of heroic poice intervention that saves them from the river's watery grasp. Getting your point across, eh Kondreki? "
RSM wrote on Oct 19, 2006 3:03 PM:
" This is an enormous problem. It is somewhat odd that this information is just now coming to light. Nonetheless, the police can't be everywhere at all times. That's why a railing or gates -- a physical barrier prventing people from faling into the river from the levee, or, preveting access to the levee -- are so desperately needed. Yes, we still need to address everything else, but an attractive, non view-blocking railing along the levee or strategically placed gates preventing access to the levee make sense. Real good sense. "
Soused, Rinse, Repeat wrote on Oct 19, 2006 2:57 PM:
" That is what these drownings are all about isn't it. Same old story: drunk kid falls into river, people blame serial killer, fingers pointed at the police, nobody really does anything constructive to prevent future occurrances......sound familiar? Or is everyone so pickled they don't notice? Boy I can't wait for the next one in a year or year and a half or so. "
re: Interesting wrote on Oct 19, 2006 2:49 PM:
" They were still at the jail or doing paperwork on the arrest. That easily takes an hour (or longer) of the cops time. Go bark up another tree. "
Natural Selection wrote on Oct 19, 2006 2:38 PM:
" I chalk up these drownings to natural selection, and it appears to me after reading these blogs on all of these articles and opinions that there is no shortage of candidates. "
To: handcuffs? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 1:12 PM:
" Finally, the sound of common sense. Your post was the only rational, reasonable, intelligent post out of 48. I salute you. "
wondering wrote on Oct 19, 2006 12:43 PM:
" about the speed limit on west avenue,last time i looked if there is students present the speed lilmit is 25 at best,if not 15mph.hhhmmm so you,and other people that aren't paying attention were going to fast,so you had to slam on your brakes...well F%&*$ng wake up!plus if you smarted off to these guys you are lucky they didn't come over to you and slap ya,cause you and the other people that weren't paying attention DESERVE IT!MELLOW OUT FOOL! AND WATCH OUT FOR OUR KIDS. "
Jack D wrote on Oct 19, 2006 12:36 PM:
" I would like to state for the record that I am not going to boycott the downtown bars because a few people can't hold their liquor. Second, the only college students that think we need "protection" from the river are the ones who don't drink themselves. NO ONE who actually drinks downtown on a regular basis is requesting "protection" only the silly town folk. Thirdly, I have my entire life to grow up so i'm going to party now before my professional life takes over. Keep your fences LAX. We don't want them; just your booze and attractive women. "
TO: Interesting wrote on Oct 19, 2006 12:26 PM:
" You asked "This happened the same night, at the same time that Homan was last seen. So where were the cops when Luke was in the park, which would (presumably) have been a half hour to hour later? " The cops were still dealing with this idiot, the fact that this man resisted arrest and had to be taken to detox pulled the officers who were stationed at that spot out of the park allowing Homan an open route straight to the River. So I guess according to the faulty logic of many in this town this kid must have been in league with the serial killer. For those asking why the police didn’t release this until now? The police department never published this information, the details were only reported by the Tribune after they came out at a court appearance open to the public. "
TO: Interesting wrote on Oct 19, 2006 12:26 PM:
" You asked "This happened the same night, at the same time that Homan was last seen. So where were the cops when Luke was in the park, which would (presumably) have been a half hour to hour later? " The cops were still dealing with this idiot, the fact that this man resisted arrest and had to be taken to detox pulled the officers who were stationed at that spot out of the park allowing Homan an open route straight to the River. So I guess according to the faulty logic of many in this town this kid must have been in league with the serial killer. For those asking why the police didn’t release this until now? The police department never published this information, the details were only reported by the Tribune after they came out at a public court appearance open to the public. "
You People ! wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:51 AM:
" So many of you criticize the police for doing exactly what you want them to do. The police are watching out for people in danger of harming themselves & others while intoxicated. Give them a break ! Be glad they take drunk people to detox, or try to. This guy should feel lucky he was put into handcuffs when he resisted the police that night. Would you all have been happier if they had just left him to wander into the river where he thought his house was located ?? "
Something would be done if.... wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:37 AM:
" A fence or some kind of barrier would go up blocking the direct walk into the river if the students would boycott the downtown bars.
Action would be taken so fast your heads would spin.
BOYCOTT THE DOWNTOWN BARS UNTIL SOMETHING IS DONE TO BLOCK THE WALKWAY TO DEATH!!! "
To Jim Lohman wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:37 AM:
" I don't think there is such a thing as an attractive chain link fence. So why should we have to spend taxpayer dollars to ruin the beauty of the river just because some people refuse to take personal responsibility for their actions. You can't continue to protect people from every possible danger - at some point they need to take some responsibility for themselves. "
Interesting wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:19 AM:
" This happened the same night, at the same time that Homan was last seen. So where were the cops when Luke was in the park, which would (presumably) have been a half hour to hour later? "
To Dan wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:17 AM:
" your situation is very common, that's why i carry waterballoons. Hint hint...
"
DB wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:13 AM:
" My point was that if there are fewer people that police have to contend with 'upriver' ie...3rd/4th streets, then there could be more (or at least one) law enforcement in the park. It was a cumulative effort by all the drunks that brought what officers were in that area back to the downtown areas. Homans inability to steer himself away from danger and the irresponsibility of the other partyers all contributed to his death. The overwhelming number of troublemakers brought more police attention to downtown and away from the river. How many more lives have they saved every weekend? Kudos, La Crosse PD! "
Future leaders need to grow up wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:04 AM:
" What does it say about the future leadership of our country when the college “kids” expect the city to protect them from themselves? I’ve done my share of heavy drinking but I never counted on anyone, much less the taxpayers, to make sure I got home safely at the end of the night. Is this how today’s “kids” are going to run businesses and the government when they move on from college? It’s time for the “kids” to grow up and take personal responsibility for their lives because pretty soon they’ll be out in the real world where they will be expected to work, pay bills and make real world decisions. "
David Jarzemski wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:03 AM:
" I want to thank the Tribune for publishing this story on page 1 top of the fold. You folks who embarrassed yourselves (with your wild unproven serial killer conspiracy theories) and unnecessarily caused more heart ache to the family of the young man who drowned ON THE SAME DAY THIS FELLOW WAS ABOUT TO DO THE SAME POTENTIALLY, should apologize to the man’s family and go into therapy because we don’t want you wackos walking the streets around La Crosse. Finally, will you SHUT UP, until you learn of some REAL EVIDENCE that there is a serial killer (besides the bottle) on the loose? CASE CLOSED hopefully... "
walking in circles wrote on Oct 19, 2006 11:00 AM:
" so now everytime a cop stops a college kid walking the wrong direction, it is going to be reported in the paper?! C'mon give me a break! "
Not Jim,Jack,or Sam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or even Bud Miller. wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:59 AM:
" It's called RED BULL........ These kids are mixing this crap with BOOZE so they can party longer and the longer they party the DRUNKER they get. Let's see 20 and 21 years old? How many times have they been wasted and walked home? Any 1 who thinks it's a serial killer should have 8 to 10 red bull and vodkas and see if you would walk up hill or down hill. The BAR OWNERS are your killer PERIOD....... "
Damn straight wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:52 AM:
" What is ironic is the only reason all of these people can go downtown and to the house parties to drink to this level of intoxication is we have a relatively safe community. Very few of these bars and retailers could survive. much less thrive, if we property taxpayers did not subsidize this culture of drinking with our high quality law enforcement. Perhaps the solution is to raise the liquor license fees and excise taxes to cover the cost of the law enforcement needed to deal with the drinking culture? At least then the drinkers would pay and perhaps the higher prices would reduce some of the problems. "
To: College Students please solve for X wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:52 AM:
" I loved your algebra problem! It's great. Makes me laugh. "
handcuffs? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:51 AM:
" Why couldn't the cops just take him home? This was all he wanted "
Timed PR wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:40 AM:
" Really, why is this just coming out now? Why no mention the week of the drowning? "
RE: College kids solve for X wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:39 AM:
" LEARN HOW TO WRITE A MATH PROBLEM. you cant solve for X with the information you gave us. And how does alcohol lead to bars? Dont bars lead to alcohol? either way you're tact and attempt to silence a certain population by using "big bad math" has failed miserably due to YOUR lack of knowledge. Carry on with your sorry life "
Get your FACTS right people wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:29 AM:
" I read about this in at least a couple of articles that were published in the last month, some of you apparently don't keep up with all that has been released or published!!! It was mentioned that the police had picked up an underaged drunk that was walking in the direction of riverside park earlier in the evening on the night that Homan was last seen. If you are going to complain, at least know what you are complaining about. "
to Catfish and SteamBoat wrote on Oct 19, 2006 10:25 AM:
" Folks don't end up in the water at the North Side Oktoberfest grounds, either, and that's closed to the river than the S.Side.
WHY? Because there are plenty of people around, that's why. No one falls in during Riverfest, either. "
the way it was wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:55 AM:
" Normally, a drunk guy walking is not news. But because so many people are crying "river pusher", regular incidents have to be newsworthy. A drunk guy walking is not newsworthy, and more, it's none of our business, really. The cops are only doing their job, and it has to be news because of you whackjobs who think something more sinister is going on. And when they do their job, and tell us about it, you slam them. I don't get it. I really just don't get it. "
Catfish and Steamboat wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:33 AM:
" You have Catfish days in Trempealeau WI and Steamboat Days in Winona MN. and both events are held right on the river serving large quantities of alcohol and no one ends up in the river. Why? "
Jim Lohman wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:32 AM:
" How is it possible this local government has not added a 4ft attactive chain link fence along the "river" at least on the downtown corridor. Being disoriented is simply a part of intoxication; this is not rocket science and my experience as a recoverying alcoholic is that drugs and alcohol are the only predators involved here. Not being familiar with the other locations Mr.Horne has mentioned, I would be curious if they are in a close proximity to areas where alcohol and or drug consumption are likely, and if so put up a fence there as well. It is still astounding that so many people are in such denial as to the commonality, reality and tragedy of this disease. "
Should've used the taser wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:26 AM:
" This happened the SAME NIGHT the other kid drowned. No copycat here. Judge should throw the book @ this fool. 100 lashings should suffice. "
College Students please solve for X wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:20 AM:
" Point A leads to Point B.Please solve for X?
Point A = Alcohol
Point B = Bars
A plus B =ABX What is X? clue:X is not the river,pregnancy,V.D.,please look in your mirror for answer. "
I don't buy it.... wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:06 AM:
" This story seems pretty convenient. Wow! What a great job you cops do. In my experience, I have found cops to be liars and this story just sounds fishy. "
DAN part 2 wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:06 AM:
" I rolled down my window and asked them what they thought they were doing and all I got back was profanities and a couple fingers.
These kids think they are invincible, and everyone else has to watch out for them, and if they would have been hit everyone including their lawyers, would have been trying to sue the person that hit them. It's just that these kids do NOT have to take responsibility for themselves anymore. And that does come from the babyboom PARENTS.
"
Are you Serious? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:06 AM:
" You people disghust me! You ask for one thing (ex: The police to "do their job" and patrol the park to stop people from falling in the river)...and you get it! They saved this kids life....You get what you want, and you're still complaining about it! You got what you wanted! Nothing anyone can say or do will make you happy! What if the police had stopped Luke that night and not this other young man? Then this young man's friends would be complaining that "the police weren't doing their job" and their friend died because the police were "babysitting" this other drunk! Stop blaming others and start taking RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. "
DAN part 1 wrote on Oct 19, 2006 9:05 AM:
" I really think it is the attitude of the younger people these days, no respect for nothing, I witnessed something like this the other day.I was driving down west ave and it was (you could call it rush hr) and right by campus two guys walking towards west ave, never even stopped or looked and walked right on to west ave with heavy traffic, the car in front of me had to SLAM on the brakes, the cars in the lane next to me had to SLAM on there brakes, and on coming traffic (both lanes) had to slam on there brakes,and they were laughing all the way across the road, because they made traffic all make quick stops just for them, and they were not even in the crosswalk. "
Why wait until now to post this? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:58 AM:
" If the police we really so adamant that the public hear this story so that we could all see that this happens frequently with college kids, why do they wait until now to post it? It seems to me like they wait until something bad happens, and then try to save their reputations and change blame a few weeks later. I am not saying alcohol is not too blame, but something is a little creepy about all this. And...to all the people who are continually posting rude comments about ALL college kids - I spent 5 years here and drank and partied, never caused any trouble. I would quit biting the hands that feed you. Without the three schools in La Crosse, this city would turn into Beliot. Poor and dirty. "
Veteran wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:56 AM:
" This kids either should NEVER drink again or learn how to handle the alchohol better. Thinking his house was in the river! "
HEY TEAMMATE! wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:56 AM:
" "IF" THIS IS TRUE,THEN WHERE WERE HIS BUDDIES?"IF"HE WAS DOING THIS TO GET ATTENTION,THEN HE ATTA BE SLAPPED TO PULL A PRANK LIKE THIS!!!"NOT FUNNY!HE DESERVED TO BE PUT IN JAIL!!! "
insane wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:54 AM:
" i cant believe all these insane stories are just coming out now.. WHATEVER "
Peace Out wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:52 AM:
" You have to buy this idea. Since the college kids are getting drunk at the downtown bars and so happenly wandering into the river. I would make the tavern league pay for the kids protection. Hear me out, who support the bars? who supply the alcohol? Who keep the bars in business? Who created the "free ride" home program?...Here's the kicker, have all the Taxies, Cabs, and even the UWL "Drunk Bus-MTU" park along second street to barricade the river, so if a drunken student headed toward the river, grab HIM and take him home. You will not be charge with drunken kidnapping. "
TO FORMER TEAMMATE wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:41 AM:
" WHAT SMEAR ? HE WAS DRUNK AND WOULD NOT TAKE ADVICE FROM THE POLICE, GET IT!! THEN HE GOT ARRESTED. WHO'S FAULT WAS IT ?? HIS. "
hold on wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:36 AM:
" For those of you who say this is a copycat, did you even read this article. It says this kid was found the same night Lucas drowned. Why did the cops not tell anyone this sooner. La Crosse is getting a bad name for this and its because of all the people who think the LPD is doing a great job and could never do any wrong. "
What about the studies of the St. Cloud professor? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 8:15 AM:
" Just yesterday I received a link to a video on The Milwaukee Channel about a St. Cloud professor who has studied similar drownings at locations along the interstate. What he has discovered sure is odd. You can see the video at http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/video/10070234/index.html Also Gordon Stumlin Jr. age 37 was pulled from the river here in La Crosse in June-2004 so Homen is #10 - not #9 "
DLB wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:53 AM:
" THIS IS REALLY GETTING SICK! TO ALL THE "COLLEGE-KIDS" OUT THERE THAT WANT TO "PRETEND" THEIR DRUNK - STOP IT!!! - IT'S REALLY GETTING OLD. HOW MANY OF THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PLAY THIS DRUNK-RIVER THING UP? "
give me a break wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:47 AM:
" Are you kidding me! A month later we finally here about this "drunken Teen" heading towards the big bad river. Where have they been hiding this little gem. Seems to me like some good ol fasion "spin control". Any one who believes that 9 boys could just start falling in the Big Bad River after all these years of LaCrosses bar seen is in major DENIAL and just plain ignorant. "
annoyed wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:45 AM:
" I totally agree with you Bob, its the copycat thing now, and its not funny at all. All of a sudden kids think there house is by the river, whatever. Call a cab. "
former teammate wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:41 AM:
" Tim is a great guy. I don't appreciate this smear on his character. Me and his former teammates are pretty choked up about this. "
L wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:37 AM:
" I think this goes to show that there is not a mad serial killer ravaging La Crosse's 3rd St. Thank you to the La Crosse Police Dept. for doing their job and uncovering the real problem, students not knowing how to handle their acohol consumption. I know this is a hard truth to swallow, especially those that were close to the individuals that tragically lost their lives. But, we need to face the reality that it's a drinking problem. This reality is probably not going to change considering the La Crosse community, at large, is a drinking community. "
HEY BOB wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:32 AM:
" THIS WAS THE SAME NIGHT AS HOMAN"S DROWNING! WAKE UP!! "
What's your point DB? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:26 AM:
" The "Prevention Upstream Analogy" goes like this... One day, a fisherman was fishing from a river bank when he saw someone being swept downstream, struggling to keep their head above water. The fisherman jumped in and helped the person to shore. The survivor thanked the fisherman and left, and the hero dried himself off and continued fishing. Soon he heard another cry for help and saw someone else being swept downstream. He immediately jumped into the river again and saved that person as well. This scenario continued all afternoon. As soon
as the fisherman returned to fishing, he would hear another cry for help and would wade in to rescue another wet and drowning person. Finally, the fisherman said to himself, “I can’t go on like this. I’d better go upstream and find out what is happening.”
Should the LPD "go upstream"? And where would that be? "
What would make you people happy???? wrote on Oct 19, 2006 7:15 AM:
" Get the PD a break - you want them to babysit the "kids" (they are ADULTS!) and when they do that, you complain. Someone's parents owe the LCPD a thank-you card and a muffin basket. Railings are nice, but I'd compare that to seat belts in cars. There are ways around anything that is a safety measure (prescription drug bottles, bullet-proof vests, underage drinking laws, etc.), and someone will always find a way around it. There are few people more stubborn than really drunk people, as this article points out. Teach your kids ethics and responsibility, and don't whine when they mess up a little and the LCPD gets their back whether they want help or not. Maybe we should just put an invisible fence around campus - works for my dog. "
Bob wrote on Oct 19, 2006 6:39 AM:
" Now its just copycat drunks. They talk about it when drinking all night and at bartime, they decide to see for themselves. "
Be grateful wrote on Oct 19, 2006 6:13 AM:
" The nice police officers just saved your life Timothy. "
DB wrote on Oct 19, 2006 2:58 AM:
" While the police may have saved this young man's life, his condition may have contributed to the loss of another. Babysitting one drew their attention away from another. "
Sophie wrote on Oct 19, 2006 12:57 AM:
" It's about time we're seeing "the other side."
The police are TRYING to do their job. You realize we are a relatively small city with budget for "x" amount of police officers. It would be wonderful to have an officer down at the park constantly, however, is it feasible? I don't know. I don't have A LOT of answers.
But I DO know that the police stopped this guy who was SURE his house was toward the river. NOT the first time I've heard this; some drunk students don't even realize what CITY they're in.
Show respect and gratitude for the LPD,LFD,and ambulance companies who assist with ALL of these situations.
Don't like what's happening? Then DO something-and that does NOT include whining about it or blaming others.
Thank you to those who are part of the solution.
"
z wrote on Oct 19, 2006 12:09 AM:
" can't we just get this overwith and put up a railing? it is obvious that the drinking isn't going to stop. so we need to protect the drunks that are "heading home" and put up a railing. "
Serial Killer wrote on Oct 19, 2006 12:00 AM:
" So, when is Scooter Horne going to charge Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, and Sam Adams with 1st Degree Homicide?? Police, keep looking for Mr. Miller and that guy named Bud!! "
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