You've got to be kidding, so sad wrote on Nov 6, 2006 10:56 AM:
" Drunks are found passed out ALL THE TIME everywhere in opposite direction from river. Have you ever been out at night. News media are not going to report this. Ask the police dept for the numerous calls/reports they get nightly. Ask the taxi drivers, hospital staff and other 'sober' nighttime people how many times they deal with this. Why do you hear about "all" going towards river, Duh, because the 'news reports those'. Something tells me you are uninformed 'wisher'. "
so sad wrote on Nov 5, 2006 6:36 AM:
" i just need to know why we are not finding these kids laying in a parking lot by the post office or somewhere in the opposite direction?? why are we finding that that all just happen to head to the river? "
Serial killer WISHERS wrote on Nov 4, 2006 10:13 PM:
" Do NOT let anyone install CAMERA'S in the park, if they show only the drunk staggerring in park and falling in, it will RUIN the wishing and hoping for a serial killer you want it to be a so bad. You people are sick. Just think all the time and money spent, down the drain, because of some camera's. This is the one and only answer to silence the wishers. "
unohoo wrote on Nov 3, 2006 12:01 PM:
" to: Ryan, I have felt the same things you've written here all along. I wish there was a way for us and others that share these thoughts to meet and discuss theories and possible out of area investigators to help either confirm or deny these questions. Since some credible people are looking into the patterns, geography, and doing independent investigations there will be more and better answers than we've gotten up to now. "
Until it's your close friend..... wrote on Nov 1, 2006 9:04 AM:
" Just remember when you post comments....his good friends read this stuff....we miss him so much...your harsh remarks are out of hand....wait until its one of your best friends, then you'll understand... "
No answers huh! wrote on Nov 1, 2006 8:57 AM:
" I didn't think you could answer the two questions. Looks like you didn't clear that one up did you. "
KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT ... BLOGGING AGAIN wrote on Nov 1, 2006 3:12 AM:
" Apparently, you've decided that I'm the one that needs to pull my head out of the sand. I'm NOT saying alcohol should or shouldn't be legal, taxed, or consumed...but perhaps some moderation would be wise. I ask you, if one was inebriated on third street going in the general direction of the Mississippi, going down an incline, with sidewalks that need attention, most likely one would end up tripping and passing out on the sidewalk. Now assume one MADE it to the Mississippi, there's 3-4 ft. bank of rock and you're wanting to tell me they're just so drunk they fell into the river and passed out? That's rather sobering water even in the summer! In the last 8 years there's 9 unfortunate souls...that ALL just HAPPEN to be young males? General sociology should have taught you the majority of this... "
Step up wrote on Oct 31, 2006 9:37 PM:
" Nobody's concerned that our local bars serve their customers until they are 4 times the legal limit of what is considered drunk? When they leave the bar it's supposed to be someone else's problem? The bars, their customers, and the city will each need to take responsibility for their actions before effective changes can be made. "
The Full Monty wrote on Oct 31, 2006 9:16 PM:
" Will they call alcohol a legal thing but it is man made and what about pot that was created by our Lord God Almighty as a healing herb, so it is illeagl to use this natural healing herb. And it is proven that it works on glacoma and other things Where alcohol is a proven killer which should be out-lawed. People who use pot are mellow and would not end up in the river but would order more good things like pizza's, and they will not drown like people who use alcohol. "
To "To the 'Tribune Staff'" wrote on Oct 31, 2006 6:06 PM:
" What are you talking about? Of course they tried to contact the family. This is a NEWSPAPER!!! This is what newspapers and news organizations do; they contact people and then write stories about what is happening in the world. If they didn't contact people there wouldn't be any news. If you can't handle that then go back to reading fairy tales. "
To: No Serial Killer huh! wrote on Oct 31, 2006 5:47 PM:
" Do you honestly still have these questions? If so, read the past articles and comments; you'll have your answers a thousands times over. Write back when you have something new to say. "
dw wrote on Oct 31, 2006 5:31 PM:
" to: Finally it's over-
THIS IS NOT THE CASE- I suppose you support the theory that because alcohol was proven then, that's the answer! Yea! We found the easiest answer that will now provide us NO work. That's it...no work..we always want the easy way out.
The commments near the top are making common sense. There is too much here, other than alcohol. We'd have alot more accidents IF alcohol was the ONLY contributor. Get Smart people. Help these families!! "
To No Serial Killer huh! wrote on Oct 31, 2006 4:54 PM:
" WRONG! People have been falling into the rivers almost since there was a La Crosse. Many were inebriated and not all were college students. The difference between then and now is when someone went missing, there was not the frantic search that garnered this level of media attention. And when the body was eventually found, if it was found, it was not given much if any coverage. The rates of accidental drownings due to alcohol has gone up and down over the years, and this recent trend is just part of random patterns over a long period of time. "
madison student wrote on Oct 31, 2006 4:11 PM:
" I think yes, because of college kids choosing to get drunk, riverside park can be dangerous. The drunk college group needs to get smart, we can't baby proof the whole city. The students down in Madison party much harder and get much drunker, but you don't hear of any of them falling into the lake. "
Reduce the Surplus Population wrote on Oct 31, 2006 3:14 PM:
" So he drowned and was found at the levee.
Did the river quit flowing too? or do things tossed at that spot in the river tend to hang about? "
No Serial Killer huh! wrote on Oct 31, 2006 2:38 PM:
" Answer me two questions:
1) Why now??, when for 40 years people, myself and my friends included, have partied to excess in downtown La Crosse, and NOT ONCE did anyone end up in the river? (now 8 in 9 years??)
2) Why isn't it happening in Winona, Eau Claire, (fill in the blank with bars and rivers), why is it just La Crosse? Answer these two questions and don't give me: access to the water, drink specials, younger kids, NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN ANY DIFFERENT THAN IN THE PAST. "
To: Rumors wrote on Oct 31, 2006 1:08 PM:
" You need to read up on Ockham's razor as it applies here. It is a concept in Philosophy that basically says that "An explanation with the least ASSUMPTIONS is a more perfect one". In the serial killer theory, you must ASSUME there is another person out there, ASSUME they have the necessary malevolent intent (which is actually relatively rare in the population), ASSUME they can coax the victim to the river, ASSUME they can do it with no signs of a struggle, and ASSUME they can do it without being seen.
In the drowning theory, you merely have to ASSUME that the person walked to the river and either jumped or fell in.
In your knife example, the pile of assumptions shifts in the other direction. You would have to assume a lot more to conclude it was not a suspicious death. "
there are alot of cold hearted people bloging today! wrote on Oct 31, 2006 12:44 PM:
" haw dare some of you say the things that you do! but by far the most repulsive thing that i have heard is you blaming Luke's parents.what gives any of you the right to have any say in this? who gives any of us that right? this isn't something for people to bad talk about. did your parents not teach YOU to be respectful to others feelings? i have read on more than one blog someone bashing Luke's parents, friends and him, then turn around and say that your prayers go out to them. MY prayers and thoughts go out to Luke's family, and friends, you know he is looking down on his loved ones. rest in peace Luke. "
ME wrote on Oct 31, 2006 12:35 PM:
" You All say it is due to drinking that they end up in there but if they are so drunk how do they get in the water with out hitting their heads on the rocks? i ahve lost many peopel I love and I feel bad for the families that aren't getting any answers. "
finally, it's over wrote on Oct 31, 2006 12:23 PM:
" No more conspiracy theories, please. Plain and simple, the kid drank too much and didn't know how to handle himself. I am surprised drownings don't occur more often.
"
re: Rumors wrote on Oct 31, 2006 12:14 PM:
" They couldn't be lured by a serial killer if they weren't so damn drunk now could they. I guess that still makes alcohol the killer. Base on just pictures of the levy alone it isn't that hard to see how easy it would be to accidentally stumble into the water. A serial killer theory is just a college student "cop out" used to deny there is a drinking problem among them, period! "
To the 'Tribune Staff' wrote on Oct 31, 2006 12:09 PM:
" Shame on you for trying to contact his parents, or any other parents of these unfortunate young men. If they had anything to say to you, I am sure they would contact you. Let them grieve in peace!!! "
To: To keep telling yourself that... wrote on Oct 31, 2006 11:56 AM:
" This guy, Al Cohol, he isn't on CCAP. Must be a pretty smark bloke not to have a criminal record. But you are correct, Al Cohol is the culprit...a very devious and dubious one at that. "
unohoo wrote on Oct 31, 2006 11:50 AM:
" 1) if alcohol were discovered today with what we know for sure about it, it would be a schedule one drug.
2) if alcohol were a major contributing factor in Lukas' death then 100's of people should have lost their lives the same way on that weekend.
3) three lives were lost that night. Lukas' parents no longer have a family or future hopes related to their previous life!
4) the ALCOHOL TASK FORCE and the LA CROSSE POLICE DEPARTMENT know that on Octoberfest and Riverfest weekend this town blows up with people, many in fact most,that come to PARTY LIKE A ROCK STAR, so why weren't they with their large pool of resources both body and cash doing anything to prevent this kid's death!!!!!!!!???????
"
Ryan wrote on Oct 31, 2006 11:27 AM:
" Well Duh...Nobody is contesting the fact he has drunk or that he drowned. I think what most people really want to know is that if he was "helped" into the water. The Tribune,The City, and many of the "older" closed minded people of this area refuse to even consider the possiblity that maybe...just maybe, Mr. Homan, Mr. Dion, and some if not all of the other "drowning victims" might have had some outside influence helping them into the river. Is it too much to ask to keep an open mind? "
Went in Where? wrote on Oct 31, 2006 11:26 AM:
" Found by the levee so he went in where? Everyone says guard the levee but it is a river so do they do in by the levee and get found there? "
to ????? wrote on Oct 31, 2006 10:25 AM:
" I went out this past weekend for Halloween, I had a lot of fun and got really drunk. I don't know where part of my costume is, I could barely walk to the cab that my friends and I had. I got home and barely made it up the stairs. So yeah I guess when you are really drunk you can make is a quarter of a mile with out help thru an alley, down some stairs and across grass in a straight line! "
Hello wrote on Oct 31, 2006 10:25 AM:
" I thought the serial killer nonsense was over. How many times have you heard older people, myself included, commenting on all the insane things we did as young people, and how we are amazed that we
survived. This young man didn't survive and it is tragic. It was a terrible accident caused by consuming too much alcohol. "
To keep telling yourself that... wrote on Oct 31, 2006 9:25 AM:
" You need to get a life and realize that the real killer here is the drug called alcohol!!! "
re; should have taught them better!!! wrote on Oct 31, 2006 9:25 AM:
" Apparently you have no children, no experience with children and no common sense. What happened to these kids have absolutely nothing to do with what their parents taught them. I raised my kids, taught them what they needed to know in life, but that doesn't mean they are always going to be perfect. My kids have been known to have a little too much to drink on occasions, even though I don't like alcohol. I never made alcohol available on family holidays, even now my kids are grown and I still tell them that holidays are family time not party time, and they respect that. This man was an only child, how can you be so heartless as to blame his grieving parents. "
Local Observer wrote on Oct 31, 2006 9:22 AM:
" Why would you attempt to contact his parents? And even if you DID contact them, do you think they're going to make some sort of statement ABOUT THEIR SON'S AUTOPSY RESULTS to YOU? The lack of COMMON SENSE by this 'newspaper' is frightening. "
Re: KEEP wrote on Oct 31, 2006 9:11 AM:
" Isn't it "sticking your heads in the sand" to ignore the fact that hundreds of young (and old) adults drink themselves stupid (and then some) night after night after night? You're sticking your head in the sand. Alcohol is a legal drug, taxed by the federal government (isn't this an endorsement?!?!?!?!) so you all think it's perfectly normal to drink to the point the Lucan was at. Anyone (not just this sad man) who drinks to that point is self-medicating. Get your lives in order and be willing to look at your own behavior. The silly conspiracy you believe in wouldn't even fly on the X-Files. "
amazed wrote on Oct 31, 2006 9:04 AM:
" Why would the Tribune even ATTEMPT Luke's parents for comments after the autopsy??! what comments could they possibly make? I'm sure they are still in the grieving stage..my heart and prayers go out to his family. "
lesson learned wrote on Oct 31, 2006 9:03 AM:
" maybe all the other rookie college drinkers will learn from his mistake. "
undecided wrote on Oct 31, 2006 8:51 AM:
" I have this nagging question. How is it that these kids get separated from their friends? Sorry for your great loss, nomatter how or why, the fact is it was a tragedy! "
???? wrote on Oct 31, 2006 8:31 AM:
" It is unbelieveable that some people still believe that there is a killer out there. Take a look at the evidence. The bigger picture is...Mr. Homan drank too much and his friends lost sight of him. It is tragic, but I don't think that blaming the parents is the right way to go about anything. After a child reaches a certain age, they need to take responsibility for there own actions. I hope that other students as well as another person that drinks downtown will finally see that we need to be more responsible people. "
Rumors wrote on Oct 31, 2006 8:18 AM:
" Seriously people, open your eyes!
These aren't just rumors, there IS a serial killer im La Crosse. We need to do something about this, we can't just keep blaming the alcohol. If a student was found with a knife in his or her head, would we assume he or she was just so drunk that stabbing themselves sounded like a good and fun idea? I don't think so. Lets all get realisitic. Peace and prayers to the family and friends. "
No Drugs? wrote on Oct 31, 2006 8:14 AM:
" I feel so sorry for this young man and his family.To say alcohol is not a drug is straight denial. Are DARE teachers also preaching alcohol is not a drug? Alcohol is classified as a depressant. It alters a persons mind more than herion. Alcohol has been used as an anestetic for centuries. If you dont think alcohol is a drug you are crazy and just justifying your own usage. Statistics say it is the most dangerous drug known to mankind and it kills! "
Jane Barnas wrote on Oct 31, 2006 7:46 AM:
" Call alcohol what it is...a drug. Peace and prayers to Luke's family. "
Should have taught them better wrote on Oct 31, 2006 7:32 AM:
" The families of these kids should have taught them better self responsibility! "
Sad wrote on Oct 31, 2006 6:51 AM:
" I hope this puts the rumors to rest. These poor kids that drown wander in there, pure and simple. Nobody is targeting them, they're just so drunk that they apparently think swimming sounds like a good idea. Prayers to his family and friends. "
KEEP TELLING YOURSELVES THAT... wrote on Oct 31, 2006 6:06 AM:
" Amazing! Still sticking your heads in the sand, not seeing the big picture!!! I guess do whatever it takes to sleep at night right? And what about the families of the young men that keep dying? Do THEY ever get to sleep at night? "
Alcohol is a drug wrote on Oct 31, 2006 2:02 AM:
" no drugs in his system indeed. "
Tom Gilbertson wrote on Oct 31, 2006 12:42 AM:
" Certainly sorry for the family and friends of mr. Lucas Homan, and I don't mean any disrespect for anyone; I am just curious that you seem to accept the fact that "alcohol" is not considerd a "drug". Is this what you meant? "
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