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While some want to change Catholic attitudes, bishops are clear in their support of marriage amendment


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Sam Sinnett, 62, is Catholic and homosexual.

How he is homosexual and how he is Catholic depend on how the terms are understood.
For Sinnett, who is president of Dignity U.S.A., an organization that supports gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender persons in the Catholic Church and society, the answers are clear.

“I was married to a woman,” he said. “I chose to be heterosexual and woke up later in life realizing that one cannot choose one’s sexuality.”

He calls his Catholic faith a gift from Jesus Christ that came to him through baptism and he accepted when he was confirmed as a young adult. He affirms his sexual orientation within this context.

“My homosexuality is a gift from God, and for me to deny that is to put me in a position of not loving God, not loving myself and therefore not being able to love my neighbor, including my own children and family,” he said.

That perspective is challenged by church leaders.

While Sinnett has been in Milwaukee this week attending the annual conference of Call to Action, a progressive Catholic group with about 25,000 members, many Wisconsin Catholic leaders have been speaking and taking action to support an amendment to the Wisconsin Constitution that would define marriage as between a man and woman.

At a Thursday press conference, Bishop Jerome Listecki, who leads the La Crosse diocese, quoted a document by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops titled “Between Man and Woman”: “The state has an obligation to promote the family, which is rooted in marriage,” he read. “Therefore it can justly give married couples rights and benefits it does not extend to others.”

Listecki said the church does not condemn the homosexual, but the homosexual act. He said that still leaves room for dialogue, for caring about the person and ministering to them.

“A lot of people think that the pastoral approach is an approach that says, ‘Well, I’ll sit down because I’m open to agreeing with you,’” he said. When you’re coming from the perspective of church doctrine, he said, the question is how to sit down and open a person to at least understanding church teaching.

“(One) can’t say, ‘I know what the church teaches and teaches clearly, but I choose to do this, therefore the authority lies with the individual,’” he said. “The door of the church is open, but there’s a realism. And that realism is, ‘Here’s what the church teaches.’ The Catholic has to take that and try to integrate that with the teachings in their own life.”

Listecki and the four other Catholic bishops who lead dioceses in Wisconsin released a letter in June supporting the marriage amendment. But not all Catholics agree with this position.

The Milwaukee Archdio-cese Priests Alliance, an organization of 140 priests, released a letter in which they express “fear that the amendment may be construed to deny rights and services” and that “gay unions is not a chief cause of marital instability.”

Nicole Sotelo, Call to Action’s acting co-director, said statements against homosexuality like that of the Wisconsin bishops are “against the grain of what Jesus himself spoke about in the Bible.”

She said she loved the Catholic Church, and that the Catholic catechism says a Catholic must hold to the primacy of one’s conscience, while informing that with church teachings, traditions, scripture and prayer.

“If one’s conscience calls one to disagree with the Church’s teachings, you must do that because ultimately it is about your conscience before God,” she said. “It’s part of Christian and Catholic tradition to use one’s conscience and to discern the right way to act. Even Jesus, for example, did not always agree with his religious leaders.”

Listecki likened the claim that authority lies with the individual to moral relativism.

“It’s the individual’s conscience,” he said, “but the individual’s conscience in seeing the authority and the objective truth of the Church and then reconciling that with themselves, with their own lives and integrating that with objective truth in their own life. The authority

doesn’t rest with the individual. The authority rests with the Church.”

Joe Orso can be reached at (608) 791-8429 or jorso@lacrossetribune.com.
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to:hmmmmm wrote on Nov 17, 2006 8:31 PM:

" In a nutshell, without the right to life, all the issues that the liberals argue for are meaningless. My statement that I respect the views of a pro-life liberal was meant as a compliment. Not everything has to turn into an arguement. I mean, must we really have to debate the pros and cons of a society allowing the killing of it's young-it's most vulnerable? "

hmm.. wrote on Nov 17, 2006 3:32 PM:

" Hmm, explain to me what makes a liberal pro-choice person hypocritical? "

To:Pro life and Liberal wrote on Nov 17, 2006 9:11 AM:

" I respect your views because most liberals are pro-choice, which makes them hypocrites when talking about their equality issues. What I am confused about is I don't remember seeing the church advocating the abuse of homosexuals in any way, which your post seems to allude to. I don't see them proposing outlawing homosexuals or homosexuality, etc. What gives? "

Michael Welch: The Church Must Do SOME "Good" -- But Not "Here"... wrote on Nov 15, 2006 11:34 AM:

" Well the Catholic church has just issued another bishops' explanation that lamely contends it 'welcomes' gay and lesbian Catholics but then characterizes them (sigh! -- again!) as 'disordered.' If someone's mind is 'disordered' the question of mental health treatment is an issue -- a thing which the American Psychiatric Association disclaimed some thirty years ago. The church though moves vverrryyy veerrrryyy slowly and the latest statement is typically 'retro,' patronizing and hardly 'welcoming.' But one would expect nothing from bishops who think wars can be fine but not sexuality?... "

ProLife&Liberal wrote on Nov 15, 2006 9:32 AM:

" I'm Catholic and not gay. I wouldn't blame a gay couple for joining the ELCA if they felt that it is the only way for their relationship to be recongnized. I do feel that the Catholic Church does alot of good in this world and if he is willing to recongize that and stay with it then good for him, thank you and maybe it'll change sometime. Don't forget Galileo was brought before the Inquisition becaues his ideas were thought to be unBibilical-something that a fundamentalist should think about. But he did (long after his death) get an apology. Maybe this person could help remind others gay people are good people too. PS for the 1st poster, there is a big difference between a pediophile and a gay person-like age of their interest. "

dclxvi wrote on Nov 9, 2006 9:43 AM:

" Now that the discrimination amendment has passed, cudos lax co for voting against, we should petition vanholler to enforce the state constitution. I was told many times in catholic school that nuns are married to god. They take vows etc. Possibly the priests as well. This resembles a marriage that is "not between a man and a woman" and as such should be illegal. Vanholler! do your job! "

Michael Welch: Yup -- Be A Methodist At That... wrote on Nov 8, 2006 12:18 PM:

" Well you bases yer calendar on what ya wishes -- and I don't think Sinnett is 'gutless' at all; takes courage to endure in the Catholic church because it doesn't really 'care' what he/you/I 'think.' It protects its image and its institutionalism 'uber alles' -- which is why it provides cover for, say, its numerous pedophiles in the priesthood. LOTS of gays among its 'religious' (those who have taken vows for its orders -- priesthood, monastics et. al.) too. Church first; everything -- and everyone else -- last! Yup: better to be a Methodist at that... "

Yes, better off Methodist. wrote on Nov 5, 2006 11:34 AM:

" Yes, he would be better off Methodist. Actually, he IS Methodist, just too gutless to admit it. By his actions he says he does not believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church. Why does he need to lie to everyone and call himself Catholic? I'm sure he and the Kennedy's, Pelosi's, and Kerry's get along well. By the way, it's BC and AD, not BCE and CE. The calendar is based on Christ's birth, not some meaningless "era". "

Michael Welch: "You're Bad" Is The Message, Even "Sugar-Coated"... wrote on Nov 4, 2006 12:08 PM:

" This article clearly illustrates why it is SO difficult for homosexuals to be (openly) within a 'Christian' denomination, especially the Catholic one no matter that, ironically, many MANY in the priesthood, monastic orders and hierarchy ARE indeed homosexual. A text 'from God' put together from roughly 500 BCE to 200 CE has very stringent, even murderous, condemnations of homosexuality that result in gay adherents having to either live forever 'celibate' lives or somehow 'rationalize' away what their official church doctrine often refuses to do. Sinnett might be 'better off' as say a Methodist or in the United Church of Christ but -- sigh! -- I admire his willingness to 'take it'... "

Erroneous Conscience wrote on Nov 4, 2006 10:27 AM:

" The problem with those who rely solely on "conscience" is that they ignore the fact that people can blind themselves to reality in order to justify their desires. "

DJ wrote on Nov 4, 2006 8:38 AM:

" How convenient for homosexual individuals. Just pick and choose your poison. Of course this is the same excuse child predators use. No good, no evil, just what ever toots your horn! "


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