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Published - Friday, February 16, 2007

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Proposed window compromise would preserve part of Footwear facade


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The LaCrosse Footwear building, also known as the Rubber Mills, would get a historical bank of windows on a small portion of its facade if the city and owner agree to a compromise proposed Thursday.

The city’s Heritage Preservation Commission has been at odds with current building owner the Hass family, incorporated as The Fenigor Group LLC, over a change made to the windows to make the North Side landmark more energy-efficient.
Commission member George Hammond suggested the owners replace a portion of the southern St. Andrew Street side with a large bank of windows to give it a look of how the building once was, and let the owner renovate the rest with a combination of smaller windows and split concrete block.

Commission members plan to look at the building again to see how that would work and make a decision in a special meeting or their regular March 15 meeting.

In November, 2004, former owner Tarkman Associates Inc. agreed to a historic preservation covenant, which says no part of the south and west facades can be removed or demolished and no physical or structural change or change in color or materials made without the commission’s approval.

Last fall, the company renovated the first floor windows without review and approval by the commission, in violation of the covenant. The owners replaced vertical banks of three 5-by-5-foot windows with one 5-by-5-foot window and split-faced cement block.

When commission members learned about the new windows, they asked the company to halt the work, which it did.

Since then, the commission and The Fenigor Group have been attempting to reach agreement. The Group wants to move the La Crosse Mail Center, which it owns, into the building, said Terry Hass, facilities manager.

The fewer windows comply with state energy codes, Hass said, and the Group’s architect, Jerome Saterback of La Crosse, has advised that replacing the old, larger windows, even with energy-efficient windows, would not meet Wisconsin’s current requirements.

The cost to heat the building with the original number of windows would be so high, he added, a business could not be competitive.

“We like our look,” Hass said. “I do not agree that people in the city think the old is a good look — it’s an old factory look.”

Building renovation plans submitted to state for review had no exterior or window work, Ronald Buchholz, deputy administrator, Division of Safety and Buildings, Wisconsin Department of Commerce, told the Tribune on Thursday.

The state review was interior renovation plans only, Hass agreed, but said energy efficiency was one of the requirements to gain state approval on those plans.

The owner of a historic building has the choice of going by the current building code or by the state’s historic buildings code, designed to give more latitude to keep a building’s historic characteristics while still addressing safety and health concerns, Buchholz said.

Joan Kent can be reached at (608) 791-8221 or jkent@lacrossetribune.com.
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After re-reading the article and giving the matter further thought wrote on Feb 17, 2007 3:39 PM:

" There is no doubt about it. The single 5-by-5-foot windows throughout the entire facility maintains the best, tidy -- yet timeless -- look, while being beyond reproach in energy efficiency. For the commission to hagle and bring the project to a halt over this exemplifies an overbearing approach that is not only out of touch, but inconsistent with what is economically needed to truly preserve and utilize a building that would otherwise be on the chopping block. "

Interesting wrote on Feb 17, 2007 9:49 AM:

" Quite the level of discourse. I see about 90% error rate on the assertions about Commission members backgrounds, residency, etc--not that it matters. You might go to the next Commision meeting and air your grievances where it will have a bearing on issues. "

Should keep part a museum wrote on Feb 17, 2007 1:12 AM:

" What they should have done is keep part of that historic place as a museum. It's main theme could be how La Crosse also had slaves. Black, White, Native American, Anyone stupid enough to work there. That place was a true, prime example of what slavery was about. The workers got peanuts while the owners walked away with millions. The working conditions were terrible there. I wonder many people died from chemical related exposure from that place? I know several that died of cancer from the toxins in that dump. Tear it down! Pave it over! Just don't dig too deep out back. You never know what you will find, ha ha. "

A ONE wrote on Feb 16, 2007 10:37 PM:

" What authority does the heritage commission have? I think you will find that they are strictly a group who asked to be appointed by the mayor. Do they have any real authority ? Do they follow the laws of the city, county, or state? Do they set their own agenda? I think the latter. Let the people alone and let them do a project that actually benefits the city by bringing in businesses and jobs. EVEN without a TIF district being setup. Isn't that innovative in this day and age!!! The city council should poll the people who actually live and work in the area and you will hear a resounding positive result from such a poll. Not a group that lives mainly from 16th street to losey Blvd and Cass street to Main Street. Enough said . "

Junk wrote on Feb 16, 2007 9:05 PM:

" How can anybody call this a historical building? Sure lots of people worked in this sweat shop for years. However, I don't think there was as much of an uproar about bulldozing the old LaCrosse Post Office. The Post Office was a historical building. Design & materials. "

JS wrote on Feb 16, 2007 7:05 PM:

" This is simple economics. Either we can keep this historical building the way it is and have it left vacant, or we can move into the future and try to redevelop the site making it better for the city. Right now the hertiage preservation commission is being nothing more then a barrier to more economic growth in La Crosse. I would not be suprised to see the Hass family walk out on this one if they cannot make the building profitable. The city is lucky enough already someone even considered keeping the building up. In most towns old factories like this one remain vacant and abandoned. Eventualy most of these buildings are bought out and knocked down by the government as no one is willing to buy them. "

A....... wrote on Feb 16, 2007 6:59 PM:

" great big ugly old industrial building. Branding this building and all future owners with this curse. This is not the Hixon House with the ornamental fesods and architectural turn of the century looks. This is a great big ugly old industrial building that a few underachievers are gleaning off some power from overreaching their original responsibility. "

DO IT RIGHT! wrote on Feb 16, 2007 5:58 PM:

" The hass family is not new to the lacrosse area. If the job was done right they should have applied for a building permit they would have been told that the building is on the historic list. Maybe a compromise could have been reached before hand. what else is being done behind the walls of that historic landmark with out permits? "

Something nice? wrote on Feb 16, 2007 3:51 PM:

" I thought I'd write something nice to say about the Heritage Preservation Commission because my parents said if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. Well, I'm trying to think of something nice to say, but nothing comes to mind. So I guess I'll just say get rid of the Heritage Preservation Commission, if the want to make stupid decisions like this. This is a prime example of some people trying to improve something in La Crosse, but getting stuck in red tape and stupid rules. They should just cut their losses and move to another city, but making sure nobody else ever gets their hands on that property, and leaving it sit as an eyesore. "

The Wizard wrote on Feb 16, 2007 2:10 PM:

" When they locked the rubber mills up and moved the jobs to China, or werever the hell they went, they should have had to tear down this eyesore of a building also. "

With all due respect wrote on Feb 16, 2007 1:36 PM:

" The commission should back-off and let this business put in the single 5-by-5-foot windows on the whole building. It's a good, clean, and attractive look, and they should be complimented (not scorned) for energy efficiency. Trying to force them to keep any of the old style windows makes for a cobbled-up look, and ignors their right to strive for energy efficiency. Back-off, and be glad the buiding is still standing. "

They're gone... wrote on Feb 16, 2007 1:33 PM:

" The Rubber Mills and La Crosse Footwear are gone. They left big, ugly, empty old factory behind. There is nothing architecturally significant about the windows or any other part of this place. The building will probably never house a factory again. Leave the new owners alone to make the changes necessary to re-purpose this site. "

Heritage Preservation Commission wrote on Feb 16, 2007 1:00 PM:

" Largely government employee leeches, failed former busninessmen, and recipients of family fortunes. Check for yourself. Should you expect different? "

let's talk 'historic'... wrote on Feb 16, 2007 12:25 PM:

" the old County Courthouse- presently a parking lot, Hotel Stoddard- presently a parking lot, cheese factory- presently new and used vehicle parking lot, grain silos and grain terminal-presently a parking lot, i guess the owners of the 'historic?' Footwear building messed up, they should have said they want to tear it down and make a parking lot and the 'Heritage' people would be happy. "

In this day an age.... wrote on Feb 16, 2007 10:22 AM:

" we are going to enact ordinances that brush or in some times knock into someone's opinion of 'good looking rental property'. I guess those owners need to hang a title on thier units like 'Heritage Preservation'. The building never had any imagination, and is and was ugly. Pat and George were lucky to get out from under an empty building, and so was the City. Some of these committee members while holding the standard should only reflect on their past endeavors that went belly up and their contribution to pleasing looking business site, Look toward West Salem. How soon we forget how hard it was! "

Pete wrote on Feb 16, 2007 10:11 AM:

" I'll bet if Don Weber and Tommy Thompson would have bought the building and moved Logistics Health there, the City would have paid them to put in all new windows and built them a nice parking ramp across the street that all of the North Siders could use. How old were those beautiful historic silos that were tore down before the Historical Society had a chance to get there hands on them? "

Rubber Mill Worker wrote on Feb 16, 2007 9:31 AM:

" The LaCrosse Footwear , or The Rubber Mills, building IS a historic building. It was one of the very few businesses in LaCrosse that survived over 100 years and it was a major economic place of business back when LaCrosse was just a mill town. Many people, even whole families, lived their lives in that OLD factory. Replacing some of the windows is really no big deal. The building would still stand, and that is what matters. "

CJ wrote on Feb 16, 2007 9:22 AM:

" Maybe the historical people can donate some $$ to help the heat bills, crazy.......... "

Lets waste more energy! wrote on Feb 16, 2007 9:08 AM:

" What a bunch of morons. They did this to save heating costs in this cold winter. Hmmm... Anyone get a heating bill lately, i'm sure you'll see why they wanted to do this. Now think if you own a large building with lots of space. Morons. Please great leaders, tell me what i can do with my property. "

why complain? wrote on Feb 16, 2007 9:02 AM:

" like i have always said; if you don't like it, don't look. i swear, the only thing that some people blog for is to complain. my dad worked there for a long time, and i believe that it is a historical landmark. the rubber mills(back when they were up and running) provided jobs for alot of people. i think that without it, people would complain too. just think of it as something that we can look at in this city. "

RC wrote on Feb 16, 2007 8:56 AM:

" This is government gone bad. Here is a business owner attempting to (a) invest in and (b) beautify our community - using their own money to improve and make better. Assessed value will increase and they will pay more in taxes. Energy costs will decrease and they will pay less for that. Does the City want to scare yet another business away - and have them take their money to another community. Somebody, please stop them! "

RC wrote on Feb 16, 2007 8:49 AM:

" This is government gone bad. Here is a business owner attempting to (a) invest and (b) beautify in our community - using their money to improve and make better. "

RSM wrote on Feb 16, 2007 8:16 AM:

" Too bad the photo in today's Trbune front page isn't on this website. Honestly, I think the first floor windows look better than the three floors above. It does, however, look cobbled the way it is. It would look better with all the windows on all floors done the way the first floor windows are. I can understand why the commission members would have their noses' out of joint in the way this came about, but the look of the single 5-by-5-foot windows has a clean look, and the energy savings is a huge mitigating factor. I don't think anyone would want to pay the heating bills without having the single 5-by-5-foot windows throughout. I hope the commission members can aquiesce on what seems to me to be a practical solution. "

D.L. wrote on Feb 16, 2007 6:05 AM:

" I think if you own a building you should be able to do what you want with it. It is not a historical landmark. As long as it isn't tacky and looks good and kept up,there should be nothing wrong with a way a building looks. Next they will be telling us what color to paint our house, or what we can do with our landscaping. "

Yep, Tadpole did it again wrote on Feb 16, 2007 2:34 AM:

" Putting restrictions on an old delapitated building like that is a disgrace. How can anything of value be made from any old inefficient building like that if you can't upgrade it to todays standards. They'd have been better off to schedule an accidental fire that would have gutted the place. The Heritage Preservation Commission should be ashamed of themselves! I wonder how many of them worry about fuel economy with their cars? Yet they force the owners to build to inefficient standards. Talk about double talk from government. Heritage Preservation Commission should be disbanned so in fifty years they could try to preserve theirselves. "

I'd blow it up wrote on Feb 16, 2007 12:49 AM:

" If I were the owners, I'd blow the damn place up and cut my losses. This just goes to show how government pulls you apart at both ends while not knowing what the hell they want. That old dump of a factory should have been demolished long ago. maybe there would be a lot less people missing hands and fingers if it would have been run out of town when it was The Rubber Mills. The way tha building was before is an eyesore at best. Just like the old Machine Products building. Tear these old eyesores down and replace them with something new and improved. Historical society should be ashamed of themselves for wanting to waste energy in these days of our glutenous usage. This is why we are in Iraq, to fill our energy needs. "

ridiculous wrote on Feb 16, 2007 12:47 AM:

" this is getting nuts, we have people willing to take the risk and put up their money to try to make use of this old dilapidated factory building. then we have the people who wouldn't put up a penny for anything, telling them what to do. have we gone so nuts that even run down outdated buildings are 'historic'? what next? i suppose someday that the old metal storage shed in someones backyard will be 'historic' too. "


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