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Doyle wants 98 percent insured by next year


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MADISON — Even though other states are further along in providing universal health care, Wisconsin Gov. Jim Doyle believes his proposal will reach more people and do it faster than any place else.

And he may have an easier path given that Wisconsin is tied for fourth-lowest rate of uninsured residents in the country at 10 percent. Doyle, a Democrat, wants to see that down to 2 percent next year.
Doyle’s plan, which has drawn both praise and criticism for its reliance on the Medicaid program, focuses on simplifying the process for enrolling the uninsured, raising taxes on tobacco and hospitals, and tapping into federal matching funds.

It’s far from a done deal.

Republicans in the Legislature have taken aim at the proposed tax hikes, the Wisconsin Hospital Associa-tion has vowed to fight the proposed 1 percent tax on hospitals, and the tobacco lobby is lined up against the $1.25 per-pack cigarette tax increase. The plan would also need federal approval.

But Doyle said he senses an urgency to get all children in the state, and childless adults, covered by insurance.

While most Americans get health insurance through employers, the rising cost of providing coverage has resulted in some employers getting out of the market. Family incomes have also not kept pace with the rising cost of health care coverage, resulting in state Medicaid and other government programs trying to bridge the gap.

Wisconsin is one of more than a dozen states looking at expanding health insurance coverage.

Massachusetts, Vermont and Maine have enacted universal coverage plans, while California and Pennsylvania have put forward detailed proposals, said Jennifer Tolbert, policy analyst for the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured in Washington, D.C.

Unlike the Massachusetts plan being implemented in July, the Wisconsin proposal is not a mandate. Instead, Doyle wants state-sponsored health insurance made available to 98 percent of residents. Maine and Vermont also do not require people get insurance but they have universal coverage as a goal.

While the Wisconsin plan doesn’t have universal coverage as its goal, even those that profess to get to 100 percent will fall short since some people will fall through the cracks, Tolbert said.

Nationwide, the number of people without insurance is put at about 46 million, with two-thirds from poor families making less than $19,971 for a family of four. Eighty percent are from working families, according to the National Council of State Legislatures.

Maine has enrolled about 19,000 out of its 120,000 uninsured people, while the Vermont plan takes effect in October, Tolbert said. The Massachusetts mandate starts in July, but the state has already moved about 100,000 people off its rolls of about 650,000 uninsured, Tolbert said.

The Doyle plan would extend coverage to 185,500 of about 250,000 people who don’t have insurance now, said Jason Helgerson, executive assistant and policy director for the state Department of Health and Family Services.

Doyle is not interested in mandating coverage yet, Helgerson said.

“Before we think about mandates, the key thing is we need to make sure that those programs have no impediments built into them that make it hard or impossible for people to get health care,” he said.

Once fully implemented, the cost of the expanded coverage would be about $185 million, with all but about $75 million paid by the federal government, Helgerson said.

One of those who is watching the progress of Doyle’s proposal is dairy farmer Amanda Heisner of Mineral Point. She, her husband and their two sons, ages 5 and 6, are covered by the state’s health plan for the poor called BadgerCare.

But because of depreciation of their farm equipment and a loan they received, Heisner said they expect to no longer be eligible for the program this year.

Buying private health insurance will be a financial challenge, with even a high-deductible plan coming with about an $800 per-month premium. Under the state program they pay $150 a month.

Under Doyle’s plan, the person’s contribution toward the insurance would increase based on their income. People who earn poverty wages or lower would not pay any premiums, Helgerson said.

“It’s time that we do something,” Heisner, 31, said. “We can spend all day talking about theory. This is a proposal that is going to help citizens in Wisconsin.”

And while the Doyle plan may not be a long-term solution, Heisner said, it would be a step in the right direction.

“There could be a million different solutions, but it’s time to pick something and try it and evaluate it,” she said.

Not everyone is enamored with Wisconsin’s approach.

Putting more people into underfunded state Medicaid programs won’t work, said J.P. Wieske, director of state affairs for the Council for Affordable Health Insurance, a research and advocacy group in Alexandria, Va.

“This is, in comparison, a pretty frivolous proposal,” he said. “It really doesn’t do a heck of a lot.”

He said the initiative sets a nice goal, but is unrealistic.

“We’re going to put more people into Medicaid and BadgerCare and we’re going to pay doctors less, which is going to mean we’re going to see private rates go up, which is going to make the uninsured problem worse,” Wieske said.

A better solution, Wieske said, is to move people off of Medicaid while allowing them to keep their private coverage.

“The focus should be on people who are chronically uninsured and people who cannot afford insurance,” Wieske said.

Tolbert praised the Wisconsin approach.

“This is a solid effort and I think given the market situation in Wisconsin, the populations that the governor seems to be targeting actually are the populations that need assistance in getting coverage,” Tolbert said.

The uninsured

MADISON (AP) — The uninsured Wisconsin residents Gov. Jim Doyle has targeted for health insurance coverage are:

  • 71,000 low-income childless adults who earn less than $20,420 individually or $27,380 as a couple, which is twice the federal poverty level

  • 54,500 parents

  • 38,000 children

  • 13,000 farmers or self-employed people

  • 5,000 caretaker relatives

  • 4,000 pregnant women

    Source: Wisconsin Department of Health and Family Services
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    Slider wrote on Feb 20, 2007 3:05 PM:

    " I think it should be 100% myself, and also require proof of insurance on motorized vehicles, both privatly owned and commercial, there are states around that do require this and it is a very good thing. "

    TO: To: Nestor wrote on Feb 20, 2007 9:55 AM:

    " Thank You. You do not know what your personal attacks mean to me. Instead of discussing the issues logically with specific points, you attack me. That only gives me another example that I am making a difference, and you are a sample from the segment that is riding high on the wagon as it passes too many. If I were a fool that nobody listened to, you would be a fool to address me. "

    Nestor TO:wrote on February 19, 2007 7:53 PM: wrote on Feb 20, 2007 9:12 AM:

    " Thank You. I have done my homework. Usually what I post 'they' do not want distributed or taught. 'They' are usually encompassed it it themselves, take a second an look next time. Also I hear many more 'I agree' on the street than this garp. BTW- To:Conservative Christian- One of the only times Jesus showed any anger was with the 'money changers' in the square. These inequities are only about money, power, and buying votes to garner them. He backed off one of his Apostles rage, although he did not want him to lay down and give up. "

    Where's mine wrote on Feb 20, 2007 6:27 AM:

    " I'm working way to hard. I think I'll just stay home today and watch Price is right. "

    TO: Keep it coming wrote on Feb 19, 2007 8:06 PM:

    " Your posts can be thought of in two parts. One it is innocent. Secondly it is ignorant. You simply need to go attend an economics course. I also would like you to outline the scenario where you presently wait for "months" to see a Doctor. If you thought health coverage was expensive, Wait until it is free. There is no way that you can funnel money through bureaucrats hands and not see it come out the other side in the form of tax genrated funds greatly diminished. I cannot think other than you are a plant. "

    To: Nestor wrote on February 19, 2007 2:43 PM: wrote on Feb 19, 2007 7:53 PM:

    " Nestor impresses me, he or she seems to get the big picture and is knowledgeable, however I am a hard working taxpayer that lives in the real world. "

    Keep it coming wrote on Feb 19, 2007 6:48 PM:

    " I work at a very small business - we have three people on our health care plan, and it is crippling to the business owner. We go without earned raises because insurance premiums continue to increase. If we get national health care it will level the playing field for EVERYONE - the rich, the poor, children, and esp. for business owners. The threat of longer waits is rubbish. I already DO wait months to see a doctor. If business owners don't have to provide insurance coverage, they can pay people better and/or reinvest in the business. "

    TO: TO: Lazy and incompetent wrote on Feb 19, 2007 6:40 PM:

    " Forget Gay couples. It will suck in all single government employees to cover their live-in heterosexual pals. Simply by virtue alone of literally going down to your local bank and applying for a checkbook in both your names and signing an affidavit. No joint property, no tenants in common, no nothing. Gee, hasn't your private employer offered the same? Amazing! "

    To: Lazy and incompetent wrote on Feb 19, 2007 6:27 PM:

    " La Crosse has had Masters Degreed people tending bar. Alot of EDUCATED people are under-employed.I am so happy for you that you can rejoice at tax increases becasue YOU can afford them, but many in Western Wisconsin cannot. You MUST be a liberal democrat to spew your comments so unsympathetic to those ess fortunate than yourself! I wonder if you would disclose your job and annual income? Then readers can decide if your comment are worth listening to. "

    RE: I can afford it wrote on Feb 19, 2007 6:12 PM:

    " Good - then maybe Wisconsin should start a "volunteer" program for all people like you so YOU can pay extra taxes for the lazy, and that way, people like my husband and myself who work 90 hrs a week combined, can keep our money for ourselves and SAVE IT for when we decide to have children! Theres a thought - planning ahead and birth control! "

    TO: Lazy and incompetent wrote on Feb 19, 2007 5:14 PM:

    " Somebody has to clear your table, cut your grass, and put your roof on. We can only let so many illegal aliens over the border and let them take second class citizenship before some notices. "

    Just plain Disgusted wrote on Feb 19, 2007 4:07 PM:

    " Now we're going to be paying taxes on our hospital bills. For crying out loud, the governor and his democrat cronies want to tax the sick to pay for health care for all, including gay partners of university professors? Pleeeeeeeeeese. "

    RE: Socialism?? wrote on Feb 19, 2007 3:41 PM:

    " Get a grip on reality. We are the one of the lowest income counties, in one of the highest tax'd states. I'm moving out of this miserable state, but I sure wish you would donate some of YOUR money to cover the cost's since you believe it's such a noble thing to do. "

    RE; Re: Scott wrote on Feb 19, 2007 3:36 PM:

    " Is us taxpayers moved, who would pay the welfare so you could live? "

    Funny, but not funny wrote on Feb 19, 2007 3:31 PM:

    " It's funny how the GOP fights for the life of the unborn, but once that child is born they turn their back on them and tell them their taxes are too high to educate or provide health care for that child. "

    enough is enough wrote on Feb 19, 2007 3:13 PM:

    " In the same issue of the paper, we read that Doyle wants this great insurance covereage, and more gas taxes. When do those of us who work hard for our money start to benefit. Our checks seem to get smaller and smaller, with the amount of taxes that get taken out. Yes, we can pay our bills, but there is very little left at the end of the month for anything extra. Now they want to take more. I do understand that children can not help the position that they are in, yet I do not feel that it is my responsibility to pay for them. What Doyle needs to do is to attract more GOOD paying jobs, where they can afford to pay insurance to their employees, not keep taxing the rest of us to death. "

    (OT) Britney Spears to a Pawn Employee: wrote on Feb 19, 2007 2:58 PM:

    " You got any Marbles available, i lost mine "

    To: Nestor wrote on Feb 19, 2007 2:43 PM:

    " You seem to know a lot about everything. Why don't you run for political office and actually work to make changes instead of airing your opinions on these blogs? Contrary to what you might think, you don't impress anyone. "

    Dems tax wrote on Feb 19, 2007 2:41 PM:

    " Last time I checked, when the GOP was running Wisconsin, we still has very high taxes. Does this mean the GOP likes to tax as well. of course they do! "

    Re: What Kids wrote on Feb 19, 2007 2:34 PM:

    " It cost the taxpayers LESS money to give these kids health insurance so that they can recieve preventative treatment. It cost the taxpayers MORE if they refuse to pay for preventative treatment because then the kids end up going to the emergency room and the medical problems are more complex due to lack of treatment. "

    Just a typical Democrat wrote on Feb 19, 2007 2:32 PM:

    " Just a typical Democrat, tax, tax, and more tax. The sad thing is that we will end up being taxed about 3 times more than what the actual cost is. "

    Lazy and incompetent wrote on Feb 19, 2007 2:25 PM:

    " I can afford these tax increases. Maybe the average taxpayer is lazy and incompetent? If you people got a better education and job, you could afford these taxes too. "

    Scott wrote on Feb 19, 2007 1:55 PM:

    " You know what boys and girls - it's really pretty simple. DONT BREED 'EM IF YOU CANT FEED 'EM !!!!! I dont want to see kids starve or want either - that why I WORK for a living and pay my own bills , INCLUDING health care expenses. Would you Dems feel better if you got all of my check ? How much is enough for you common senseless people ? "

    Conservative Christian wrote on Feb 19, 2007 1:34 PM:

    " I am a conservative christian who believes that we as a society have an obligation to help the poor and ecspecially poor children. Some of my fellow republicans are not very compasionate to the plight of others and it makes me sick. "Whatever you did unto the least, you did unto me." - Jesus "

    WHAT KIDS? wrote on Feb 19, 2007 1:21 PM:

    " I challenge you socialists to give me a name of any child in the state of WI that was turned away from the emergency room or care for cancer etc... that passed away because they didn't have health insurance. ANYONE and I mean EVERYONE gets emergency care etc... if they show up at the ER. Everyone gets care now and forever. Just because someone does not have "Health Insurance" it doesn't mean they don't get cared for. Maybe the lazy losers cut turn their thermostat down, not by the kids NIKE'S, and not have cable TV they could afford some type insurance. Don't say they can't afford it they can't afford it "on purpose" So there! "

    TO: i hope... wrote on Feb 19, 2007 1:18 PM:

    " I hope you all get it soon. They do not need your vote, period!!! They have already figured the mix. Does not matter. They don't care. Get it? "

    Re: What makes you think that the uninsured, lazy and incompetent? wrote on Feb 19, 2007 12:22 PM:

    " What makes you think they aren't? "

    TO; Re: Scott wrote on Feb 19, 2007 12:14 PM:

    " When are going to stop hearing Democrats (City, County, State) like you from using the well worn excuse term, "children". To garner more power and put their hands on my money. "

    i hope... wrote on Feb 19, 2007 12:10 PM:

    " i sure hope all the liberals are happy with how they voted this last term. I guarantee that because of how Doyle is using his first few months in office of his re-election, it will cause more than a few people to turn and vote for the republicans in the next election. It is just amazing how much Doyle and his fellow liberals just do not seem to comprehend real life and real consequences. "

    Re: tierd of socialism wrote on Feb 19, 2007 11:54 AM:

    " Are you saying that Wisconsin would be a better state if less people were covered by health insurance? Also, the socialism term is not accurate. Are you going to start callng people Commies too? "

    I can afford it wrote on Feb 19, 2007 11:48 AM:

    " I can afford this and any other tax increase. Why should I have compasion for the average taxpayer when they don't have any compasion for the poor. "

    Joker wrote on Feb 19, 2007 11:41 AM:

    " The beast is near!....and his number is '666'. "

    Socialism?? wrote on Feb 19, 2007 11:18 AM:

    " Oh please, Wisconsin is far from socialism. The far right likes to throw out that word to try and scare people, even though they don't know what it means. What's wrong with the wealthiest nation in the world taking care of its poor and children? It is our moral obligation. "

    TO: tired of wisconsin socialism wrote on Feb 19, 2007 11:18 AM:

    " "And now we have thrown or freedom preservers out with the trash!" "an exodus of Wisconsin's best and brightest", I agree with you. Although if you have been reading the UW Sytems/Tribune seal approved indoctrinators their excuse is a totally different reason. But paitence!!! Wait and one of the dim memoried will try walking the other side of the fence, and with feet straddling both sides it will become apparent to those really paying attention that they are in great peril of hurting themselves. "

    TO: Re Scott wrote on Feb 19, 2007 11:10 AM:

    " You can always identify a government employee. The well worn and often used kids/children is waved furiously. When the County Board wanted to borrow money they paraded cute 4th grade children and their programs just like a planned pageant. The School System borrows this term all too often as well, "to get the best, you must offer pay/benefits, for our children". Never mentioning they have 100 plus applicants for an open position. 60 applicants for the new Chancellor? Do you people have to always bring children into the mix. If you are worried about kids and their health, buck up Badger Care assistance. It will not stop there now will it? "

    I actually agree with Scott wrote on Feb 19, 2007 11:01 AM:

    " Take a look at the 4,000 pregnant woman and I would be willing to place a nice bet on the fact that most are a. single b.not first time parents and c. unemployed! And the reason there are so many kids without insurance is because their parents were too selfish and never considered the cost of children before continuing to reproduce. I am a hard worker, responsible person. I am tired of making up for lazy people's shortcomings. "

    tired of wisconsin socialism wrote on Feb 19, 2007 9:31 AM:

    " When are the people of Wisconsin going to realize that socialism is bound for failure. Invariably it involves rewarding society's non-producers while punishing those who do produce. It would be one thing if charity were given freely to support such programs, but it's quite another when it's effectively looted by types such as Doyle and other progressives. Why would people who are hard working or of the entrepreneurial spirit stay here. If Doyle and his like-minded following continue down this course the outbound interstates are going to be jammed with an exodus of Wisconsin's best and brightest. We cannot afford to allow progressive Wisconsin socialists ruin what could be a great state. Remember this at election time! "

    Re: Scott wrote on Feb 19, 2007 9:30 AM:

    " You're right!! Let those 38,000 children pay for their own health care. Those kids don't pay my bills, why should I pay their bills!! I don't care if those kids die, they deserve it because they are lazy and incompetent. "

    what's the incentive? wrote on Feb 19, 2007 9:29 AM:

    " if they pass a bill like this, then what is the incentive for employers that offer insurance to keep on offering it? if governemnt is going to get into the insurance business, i can see the final results already. a bloated, self serving money pit. with everyones coverage dragged down to the bare minimum. "

    Nestor wrote on Feb 19, 2007 9:22 AM:

    " Ultimately Doyle will drop the burden of health care of those left standing on the small employers of this State. With no explanation of how to pay for it. He will not care and does not NEED their vote. A 'health care crisis' in our State? Call it what it is, a 'private sector workers health care crisis'. Government employees have it. A 'rising tide' does not raise all boats. Not only will the small employers be crushed by this mandate, but they will pay a portion for the public sector workers as well. You can bet that those private employers that step up to the plate and are able to offer health programs will not offer them for post retirement years at an early 55 until 65 as our illustrious City and School employees receive. It's your money! "

    Re: Scott wrote on Feb 19, 2007 9:15 AM:

    " What makes you think that the uninsured are deadbeat parents, lazy and incompetent? That is an unfair assumption. I think this is a good plan. If you don't like the taxes, move to Mississippi and see what low taxes gets you. "

    Scott wrote on Feb 19, 2007 8:24 AM:

    " Its easy to get them coverage - get their deadbeat parents off their duffs and into a job. Why should taxpayers pay AGAIN for the lazy and the incompetent. They come up with money for other things - let them pay their own health care if they want it. Nobody pays my house payment , gas or electric bill , car payments or grocery bill - yet I should pay for someone elses health care - BS!!! Enough of Doyles Dems taxing us to death. "

    Disgusted taxpayer wrote on Feb 19, 2007 6:30 AM:

    " Gov. Doyle reminds me of a littlekid who "wants, wants, wants" with no concept of how to pay for it. Gov. Doyle robbed the Transportation Fund last time and now wants to increase fees "taxes" to add more government. 98% health care, eliminate the QEO, the list goes on. It is time for the hardwaorking Wisconsin citizens to say "NO". Call your Assembly Representative or State Senator and tell them "NO" to Gov. Doyle's dream. "


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