Unanswered Questions wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:20 AM:
" Once the farmer SELLS the development rights, and gets MY MONEY, will the assessed value of the property change? After all, it has now been diminished, so the assessment should go down, and then I pay again. Will these farmers, taking advantage of these TAX BREAKS, be required to open the property to the public for hiking and hunting? Let's get all the facts. "
If is isn't Socialism, then what is it wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:16 AM:
" when the government takes EVERY PENNY, I supposedly earn, away from me, seizes my home, and then "provides" a place for me to live, but disallows me any assets? Government is already taking 1/3(33%) of what we earn. Please enlightened ones, tell us what form of government is this, because that IS EXACTLY where we are heading. "
rprp's tired line wrote on Mar 8, 2007 10:01 AM:
" We know, we know. You post the same line every time there is a story of government money for farmers or teachers. I asked once before and I'll ask again, what is your occupation? Let me show you how YOU are supported by government money. "
socialist, I guess wrote on Mar 7, 2007 4:46 PM:
" We can either spend a few million dollars protecting farmland forever, or tens of millions of dollars building schools, jails, roads, etc. What you do on "your" property affects everyone else! "
I just read this article today wrote on Mar 7, 2007 4:43 PM:
" The headline in the Tribune was "Examining development righs." Exam this: Why would taxpayers want their money used to buy development rights -- to do nothing? There's this little thing that spend-happy lawmakers often forget to do; ask the taxpayers what they think! While "La Crosse County is moving slowly forward toward preserving farmland by buying development rights," as is stated in the first sentence of the article, it might want to ask the taxpayers. A sudden stop is will be easier when moving slowly. "
If is isn't Socialism, then what is it wrote on Mar 7, 2007 4:24 PM:
" when the government takes EVERY PENNY, I supposedly earn, away from me, seizes my home, and then "provides" a place for me to live, but disallows me any assets? Government is already taking 1/3(33%) of what we earn. Please enlightened ones, tell us what form of government is this, because that IS EXACTLY where we are heading. "
Wrong! wrote on Mar 6, 2007 11:07 PM:
" Private property rights are NOT protected by the constitution. The Supreme Court has ruled that government can exercise eminent domain and take homes in favor of turning the area into a shopping mall. The government can and will take your property and they won't follow the law when they do it. I know, they stole mine and eventually they will take it all! "
To Socialist!? wrote on March 06, 2007 1:12 PM: wrote on Mar 6, 2007 6:21 PM:
" And other that don't believe we are encroaching on Socialism, but most don't understand it or the Constitution. We are letting this happen slowly and it will destroy us. Private Property rights are protected by the Constitution. "
JS wrote on Mar 6, 2007 6:05 PM:
" In Wisconsin every new program means spending millions of dollars. The state legislature needs to stand up and look to our friends in the western states for advice. Urban growth boundaries have worked very well in Oregon(even though developers successfully spent millions to convince the public they don't work and now Portland is seeing its first taste of urban sprawl). The state of Washington also has very strict urban development laws. These policies can be used to prevent the urban sprawl and bring back older towns that have started to fall behind economically. As for zoning being socialist, that would mean this whole country must be socialist, as I do not know of one state that doesn't allow zoning. Most zoning decisions are good for the community as it keeps commercial and industrial properties seperated from residential areas. "
what should be realized... wrote on Mar 6, 2007 4:21 PM:
" there is a tremendous opportunity in the coulee region for raising our standard of living and elevating ourselves into a potentially higher social class. this, however, entails a free market that includes further business development and likely concomitant residential development. Some people may want to try and keep the development in the city of Lacrosse, trying to limit the exodus out of the city to the outlying communities. Don't let the political agenda of the vocal few limit our area's growth. Look at the make-up of local government and who it consists of. Remember this come election time. Vote for future prosperity. There is no shortage of farmland. Keep your property rights. Keep your freedom for the future. "
stop wisconsin socialism now wrote on Mar 6, 2007 3:50 PM:
" universal healthcare, activist judges, over regulation, high taxes, out of control social programs... if the hat fits wear it and don't be ashamed. "
What you have to remember: wrote on Mar 6, 2007 2:29 PM:
" What we have to remember is that protecting farmland is protecting our future. Once land is developed, you can't take it back. If we can't grow out own food we will have to import it from foreign countries. It is bad enough that we import our oil, but our food????
"
To: stop wisconsin socialism now wrote on Mar 6, 2007 1:45 PM:
" The days of open range are over. The only way we can achieve sustainable land and resource use for this shrinking planet is through good planning. "
Mr. To rpr: wrote on Mar 6, 2007 1:34 PM:
" I've NEVER met a farmer that wasn't driving a gas guzzling truck newer than anything I can afford. Teachers get retirement benefits I can only dream of, and drive newer cars than I can afford. Government already takes 1/3, that's right, I'll repeat it, 33% of what I earn goes to the government, and the board thinks they are ENTITLED TO MORE? Every board member in favor of HIGHER TAXES needs to be challenged and kicked out! Now as to your spelling (cant), look who is talking. Your first question is an incomplete sentence. You made the same punctuation error twice, the "?" comes immediately after the word, the space shouldn't have been there. So I suggest you take your own advice and "get an education," just not in this state, as we don't teach proper grammar because we have co-curriculum now! "
Socialist!? wrote on Mar 6, 2007 1:12 PM:
" What is with you crazy people yelling SOCIALIST!! There is NOTHING even close to socialism happening in Wisconsin. You make yourself look very silly yelling socialist everytime there is a policy you disagree with. Who in the Wisconsin legislature is pushing the socialist agenda?? Get a clue, you are making level headed conservatives look bad. "
stop wisconsin socialism now wrote on Mar 6, 2007 10:37 AM:
" Zoning laws were created for the purpose they are trying to achieve. If you don't have property rights what do you have. Once you give these away you are never going to get them back. Maintain control over what is yours -don't give away your freedom for a pittance now. This is another example of progessive democrats (read socialists) sneaking the governments tentacles into areas it was never meant to go. Please, don't be fooled. Don't sell yourselves and family down the river for the socialist's agenda. "
to rprp wrote on Mar 6, 2007 10:17 AM:
" You should seriously consider getting an education. Farmers and teachers union controll (nice spelling) the state ? What are you lacking my friend ? Try being either one if you thing they are rich. My bet is you cant come close to either one. "
rprp wrote on Mar 6, 2007 9:16 AM:
" To John Q Public
I agree with you but you have to understand that the farmers and teachers union controll this state and the governments that run it. I think this is another method to take money from seniors and hard working people and give it to the already rich. "
Get Out wrote on Mar 6, 2007 9:10 AM:
" Get the government out of farming and we would not have huge farms with manure run off problems, stinking manure lagoons and the small farmer could make a living farming. Also if someone move to the rual area they must realize that with farms there are animals,manure and slow moving equipment to deal with. If they don't want to deal with that, stay in the city! We don't need the government in the real estate buisness. "
math wizard wrote on Mar 6, 2007 8:49 AM:
" 500 acres for $750,000, or $1500 per acre??? Where can I find land this cheap in La Crosse County? "
The real world wrote on Mar 6, 2007 8:04 AM:
" Don't let the government get in the middle of this issue. This is what I call taxed into submission. If you agree to what the government says, then you can pay less tax. The real joke is they are going to extort the funds to cover it from the general public, and you won't be able to stop them. Just one more Constitutional violation! "
John Q Public wrote on Mar 6, 2007 3:02 AM:
" says that the gov't should not get into the real estate business. If it were not for the liberal judges than the farmers would not have the ability to refute the zoning laws. This is exactly what the zoning laws were for and now they seemed to have set a precedent saying they are unfair, where do you think that came from? If farmers want to let the horse out of the barn they should be able to and let anyone in the City of LaCrosse move out. "
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