unohoo wrote on Mar 20, 2007 7:22 PM:
" 46 time! 46 times! Ziegler presided over 46 law suits regarding her personal business interests! There must be a law, and she should be held accountable not just by being defeated in the polictical arena where she is running for a seat on Wisconsin's highest court but she should at least be admonished and be suspended by the Wisconsin Bar. She said there was no personal financial gain but really how do we know and how or why would anyone believe her at this point. Stick a fork in it sister it's done! "
Republicans wrote on Mar 20, 2007 7:12 AM:
" always deny wrongdoing. "
TO: Re: What a bunch of Doodoo wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:20 PM:
" I did not initially cite he was the head of the Trial Lawyers. I quoted it. Also I am sure it is not his honorable profession, it is a temporary office for him. "
Re: What a bunch of Doodoo wrote on Mar 13, 2007 5:48 PM:
" No one cares that he is head of the Trial Attorneys. I'm sure by some people's opinion that is an honorable profession. The type of cases that are in front of the Supreme Court are typically issues that affect Trial Attorneys. The type of alleged conflicts of interest cases that are being referred to rarely are going to make it to the Supreme Court. You should get educated. "
What a conflict is/isn't wrote on Mar 13, 2007 5:19 PM:
" Example: A judge does not have to reveal a conflict of interest if she is ruling on a weapons charge and she is a gun owner. She does have to reveal if she is related to the victim however. See the difference? That's why Clifford has nothing approaching an ethical conflict (and anyway you're talking about the future) and Ziegler repeatedly had and concealed her ethical conflicts. It's about specific parties and/or financial interests, not broad issues. "
What a bunch of Doodoo! wrote on Mar 13, 2007 5:06 PM:
" "Clifford's husband is head of the Trial Lawyers", boy are they reaching here. To affect the ignorant, and the easily moved. If that were the case good honest local Attorneys like Tom Sleik and Ellen Franz from our two largest local firms have recently served on even larger legal industry associations, and government oversee committees . This is a shameful hatchet job. Educate yourself and do not believe these claims on face value. "
Clifford has to be laughing histerically wrote on Mar 13, 2007 5:01 PM:
" Thanks Tribune. Clifford's work is done. She will win not because she brings anything to the table or because she will be a good judge. She will win because the Tribune has sandbagged her opponent. "
Media gives half the story wrote on Mar 13, 2007 4:56 PM:
" The whole point is no one knows what she really did wrong because the media hasn't fully reported the story. If you had a home in LaCrosse and you were the judge hearing a case involving the city of La Crosse, does that constitute a conflict of interest? That is about as much conflict of interest that is involved in these cases. I'm glad the media brings issues like this to light but not when they are apparently an advocate for one candidate. "
This is a...... wrote on Mar 13, 2007 4:54 PM:
" hatchet job. Much to do about nothing. "
Clifford's husband is head of the Trial Lawyers wrote on Mar 13, 2007 4:42 PM:
" For those of you who don't know, Clifford's husband isn't just an attorney where Clifford may occasionally have a conflict of interest when his firm is involved. He is the head of the entire Trial Lawyers Association. Just about every case is going to fall into that category. "
rigton22 wrote on Mar 13, 2007 4:18 PM:
" wahh, wahh, I want my NEW court and I'm gonna have it any way I can get it! WAAAAAAAAAAAAh
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH "
"objective review of her judicial record"? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 3:47 PM:
" By who? "
RE: Lee Enterprises?? What?? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 3:04 PM:
" I'm not sure why the publisher has anything to do with what Judge Ziegler clearly did wrong? Oh, I forgot, if someone who is right-wing does something wrong the default response is to "BLAME THE MEDIA." It is becoming laughable. "
One queston for Ziegler... wrote on Mar 13, 2007 2:59 PM:
" ...has she ever done any binge drinking? "
This was a last minute....... wrote on Mar 13, 2007 2:51 PM:
" mud ball by the Dems and Lee Enterprises. By the time she clears herself of this the election will be over and it won't make a difference either way. Good timing. "
to Why Isn't wrote on Mar 13, 2007 1:52 PM:
" Because Clifford's husband practices law, and the supreme court interprets the laws, that's a conflict of interest? Do explain! If this fluff is actually being floated as a defense, Ziegler is surely finished. Sorry about the millions you spent judge! "
unohoo wrote on Mar 13, 2007 1:52 PM:
" No, No, Annette. Using the power of the circuit court bench to your personal advantage
is reprehensive, criminal as far as I'm concerned. No matter that you didn't gain financially you know better than I that what you did was wrong. Then to add insult to injury you try to vilify your apponent by saying her campaign is behind it. Your a dandy all right. I knew it before the primary that's why my comment on the article that you visited here said nothing more than "naw, no thanks" I would vigorously encourage voters to go with Clifford or write in Joseph Sommers. If you want to see a candidate with integrity read his web page. "
Martha Stewart wanna be maybe? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 1:30 PM:
" I have no personal knowledge of what she did or didn't do. If she did then...she'll do time as Martha did, only add a few years for her abuse of power. "
Interested in Iowa County wrote on Mar 13, 2007 1:08 PM:
" Judge Ziegler is the only judge and former prosecutor in this race. The left and the media hate law and order, so they need to discredit in order to give Clifford a chance of winning. The press however refuses to report how Clifford believes that she has the right to legislate from the bench and create law if elected judge. Isn't a judge supposed to interpret the law and leave the law-making to the legislature? This is typical
one-sided, unbalanced reporting. "
RE: Why isn't there an article? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 12:53 PM:
" Obviously, if Clifford's husband (or his firm) is involved, Clifford would be smart enough to recuse herself. This supposed argument that Ziegler (and her supporters) keeps raising is total bunk. The truth is that Ziegler violated the code of judicial ethics and now she's trying to confuse voters. I'm not sure which is more egregious, but she lost my vote. "
Why isn't there an article wrote on Mar 13, 2007 12:38 PM:
" on what Clifford's husband stands to gain if his wife get's on the Supreme Court? Will Clifford be recusing herself from all those cases? If the media is going to be attack dogs, why aren't they attacking both sides? "
Wal-Mart wrote on Mar 13, 2007 12:16 PM:
" If this person had shares of Wal-Mart makes Her Anti-Worker and anti-union "
TO: good for you Nestor and the previous post wrote on Mar 13, 2007 12:02 PM:
" "any major media outlet in the State", can you say Lee Enterprises? I should not have to go downtown and distribute info sheets. Look at the posts allowed on the Bjerke/Legrand article. The one about Bjerke is his version of he said/she said and they post it. My post that was edited was verifiable, supported by documents, timely, recent, and pertinent. It just happened to be about one of the Tribs chosen people. Why, "any sound paper would report them". This is not about me, it is about our next Judge, our local paper and their lack of professional behavior. Your attempt to wave the left as not to notice the right is limp. Running interference of such important information for this position is intolerable. "
good for you Nestor wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:35 AM:
" No one is saying that the Tribune is completely unbiased (if there is such a thing). But look in any major media outlet in the state - they are all covering it. Is everyone biased against you? You think a supreme court candidate's proven failure to reveal her conflicts of interest is nothing. You think any discussion of the same is shameless, yet when you do the same downtown you're fighting the good fight eh? Good luck with your pamphlets, you and all your credibility on this issue... "
RE: Nestor re: No Legs? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:29 AM:
" Was that a cogent response? If you don't like the Tribune's alleged bias, start your own paper. Judge Ziegler's conflicts and ethical lapses are clear, and any sound paper would report them. If you want to start a paper that declines to report newsworthy information because it happens to be negative AND about a supposed conservative, go right ahead. Your readership will be low, however. "
Nestor wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:14 AM:
" I will be downtown, and other places next week to distribute information sheets on a candidate. The Tribune has run interference for him from the beginning. We will have to go around the Edit Bureau. We read this information lauded on the right to know, it is verifiable, and it is timely. Then the same rules do not pertain to 'Appointed' Judge Legrand? "
Joe wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:09 AM:
" To be fair, follow the money....
The WDC has a website where you can look up all the 'legal' campaign donations.
Click the link and enter "Ziegler" click search.
You will see over 70 family names under Ziegler, and most are related. See who they donate to and decide.
So the same for any candidate. The Zigler's gave more money that this Dennis Troha guy in the Casino DOlye thing in the news. Look up Troha.
Follow the money and see whats up.
http://www.wisdc.org/wdc.php "
ZIG-ZAG wrote on Mar 13, 2007 11:03 AM:
" Ziegler should have ZIGGED instead of ZAGGED "
Nestor TO: RE: No Legs? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:54 AM:
" Because the Tribune runs interference for a chosen few in the very same profession as they wave their dirty pom-poms for a story like this for the other side of the aisle. Preaching to us that it is news, it is relevant, it is timely, and it is true. I guess it is only verifiable, documentable, and relevant if it is one side of the political aisle? Shameless. "
RE: No Legs? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:35 AM:
" Give me one good reason why the unethical actions of a circuit court judge who is running for Wisconsin Supreme Court is not of paramount public interest? Maybe they should only publish puff-pieces about how the Judge likes to spend time with babies and spending money on yachts and the like. "
Media continues to drive a story that should have no legs wrote on Mar 13, 2007 10:10 AM:
" Too bad the media doesn't do its own analysis into the matter to realize it is much adieu about nothing. Unfortunately for us the media has probably already done enough at this point that Ziegler can't win. She is now tainted with the voters. Sure glad the media uses that 1st Amendment in a positive way. We lose. "
RE: Politics wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:45 AM:
" I would agree that politics can be viscous, but it is also vicious. Clearly Ms. Ziegler failed to appropriately exercise her discretion, and also has demonstrated a failure to understand or apply the ethical rules that apply to judges. How anyone can vote for her now is beyond me. She now claims it is a "dirty trick" to examine her inability to follow the rules? Weird. "
Thats a lot of money! wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:31 AM:
" At minimum, these figures show that Ms. Ziegler has over $1.16 million in investments. Wow! But I'm sure that she has a deep understanding of "average" people who have cases before her. "
whatdoiknow wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:31 AM:
" it sucks to see your dirty laundry aired on front pages. I'd be ticked too. "
Discretion? wrote on Mar 13, 2007 9:07 AM:
" Ziegler's repeated breaking of the rules and handling cases in which she had financial interests is not "discretion," its corruption.
She should quit the race. Heck, she oughta be thrown off the bench, she broke important judge rules over and over! "
anonymous wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:38 AM:
" I am a Christian Conservative and I am appalled by what Judge Zieglers has done. Did she not recite the Pledge of Allegiance where it says " one nation under God with liberty and justice for all", not just for her and her friends. "
If she thinks putting the truth out is dirty politics, then wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:35 AM:
" she should no even bother to run. Definate conflict of interest. Ziegler should pack it in today. She lost on integrety alone. "
Scott wrote on Mar 13, 2007 8:22 AM:
" This Broad is a Fraud. She knew the rules and willingly broke them. No Vote for her. "
Politics wrote on Mar 13, 2007 7:27 AM:
" Politics is a viscous game, I work with the court system and there is a certain level of discretion one has to use at times. "
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