Re: Carp wrote on Jun 8, 2007 12:53 PM:
" Carp - YOU DA MAN!!!!
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Re: Carp wrote on Jun 8, 2007 9:07 AM:
" Thanks Carp "
I think wrote on Jun 8, 2007 8:24 AM:
" I think that I have lost some of my intelligence by reading some of these posts. Thank you all very much. "
Carp wrote on Jun 8, 2007 1:08 AM:
" I have been in EMS in the Tri-State area for 30 years. The very first year I learned a valuable lesson. Dispatchers, EMT's, Paramedics, Firefighters, First Responders and Police officers ALL Need Each Other. We,(the EMS Street people) have shed our blood, sweat and tears in every square inch of the Tri-State Area. ( I could tell some horrible stories of what we all see and do between sitting in Parking lots or in recliner chairs) I hate to see this Wooden stake plunged in the middle of the us all. That is what this issue is doing. Hang in there Brothers and Sisters while we get to ride the wave. "
to Get a life wrote on Jun 8, 2007 12:26 AM:
" If another private business did want to come in a start a 911 ambulance service they could, however they would have to bid for the contract which would require them to meet stipulations of the contract and it would be real competition. If a Fire Department wants to get in the ambulance business they just come in and bully others out of the way without any stipulations for service or a competitive bid. That is not competition. "
Re: To Volunteer FF wrote on Jun 7, 2007 11:02 PM:
" Yup! Agree 100% "
To volunteer FF wrote on Jun 7, 2007 10:03 PM:
" Hey, 911 is correct. If you didn't run the race, don't claim the prize. I'm sick of it too. "
To 9/11 wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:59 PM:
" I agree, Don't forget, our heros put out garage fires. Yeah! Just because you are a firefighter doesn't make you a hero. What about school teachers? "
Volunteer Firefighter to Stop It wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:00 PM:
" No one ever mentioned anything about the events of 9/11. While that day was a shock to all of us, firefighters included, this entire topic has absolutely nothing to do with 'cashing in' on the terrible day. Not even the LaCrosse Fire Department, from top officials to grunt firefighters will forget '343' or attempt to use that day for leverage on another front.
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Stop It! wrote on Jun 7, 2007 7:28 PM:
" The real heros are the brave responders who lost their life helping others on 9/11. I get sick of hearing and seeing every other firefighter ride on the coat tails of the real heros! Shame on all of you. "
Already paying for nothing wrote on Jun 7, 2007 4:32 PM:
" $250 an hour being payed out of our tax money and they don't have anything on the table to mediate... How is this going to make money Mr Johnsrud? "
The other side of the coin wrote on Jun 7, 2007 3:56 PM:
" Hmmm Tri-State brought in a manager that has experience privatizing government fire services, and saving local governments large amounts of money by doing so. If I was a fire fighter in Lax I'd be wondering if I'd be able to get a job at Tri-State Fire Department.... "
Just say NO wrote on Jun 7, 2007 3:19 PM:
" This entire proposal is absurd, and the sooner it goes away, the better! Tri-State Ambulance is a private business that provides exemplary medical emergency service at no cost to the taxpayers. Perfect! For the life of me (no pun intended) I can't fathom why taxpayers would even consider allowing the city to try and get its "grimy meathooks" into this. It jeopardizes Tri-State's efficiency in providing services to areas beyond La Crosse; won't measure-up qualitatively in care; and will lead to MORE NEW over-bloated costs to taxpayers. A mediator isn't needed -- you can't mediate stupidity. The only thing that we need is some clear thinking and maybe some "meathooks" to take this ill-conceived, greedy-ego-driven bad idea and throw it on the scrap heap with the rest of the many bad ideas Johnsrud has tried to foist on taxpayers. "
grants wrote on Jun 7, 2007 3:09 PM:
" To all that do not realize this, GRANT MONEY is also our tax dollars. We pay again and again and again "
tax saving idea..... wrote on Jun 7, 2007 2:51 PM:
" The LAX FD should just go volunteer with just a few paid employees. It's been done in other large cities. Think of the huge savings to the taxpayers of La Crosse. "
Community Forum and ACTION wrote on Jun 7, 2007 1:25 PM:
" There will be a community forum on EMS on June 20th from 11:30a - 1:30p at UW-L's Cleary Center. Come learn about how the EMS system works now, and the impact of any potential changes to the entire regional system. More info and RSVP form at www.tristateambulance.org.
Hope you're all ready to turn your comments into calls to the City Council! "
My vote wrote on Jun 7, 2007 11:13 AM:
" Leave it the way it is. People that apply and get hired to be firefighters do so because they want to be FIREFIGHTERS!!! Not EMT's. People that apply at Tri-State to be EMT's do so because they want to be EMT'S. I dont want the EMT that comes to my house to be doing so because its part of their job that they have to do- I want them there because they want to be there. SAVE TRI-STATE!!! End of story. "
to Fire Dept poster wrote on Jun 7, 2007 11:10 AM:
" Judging by your posts, I see no caring or concern of what's best for the residents of La Crosse. What is present is smugness and pompous ego. Good for you with your early retirement and benefits. That's what the taxpayers are already comping you. Let's hear it people, do you want to also pay to train the likes of this and buy new ambulances, all so when you have a medical emergency you can get two or three newbie paramedics from the FD with that attitude?
Back to your recliner, fireboy. I don't want your kind of help. Give me TSA medics who know what they're doing and only charge me if I call them. "
TO Get a Life wrote on Jun 7, 2007 10:17 AM:
" so do you have some crystal ball that can foretell the future?? Is there something that the taxpayors are missing that we should know about... is the deal all set? If any taxpayors are concerned (and we all should be!!)they need to contact their city councilperson and stress that this fuzzy math the FD has come up with in terms of revenue generation be seriously investigated! Why should we pay for something that is now free unless utilized! And the Mayor should be ashamed for holding up a lifesaving EMD service for free for political games in regards to an ambulance service! Hope nothing happens in the meantime that would open up the city to a lawsuit because of Johnsrud's ego!! "
Hank Scorpio wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:47 AM:
" Government and hospitals combined with a lawyer.
Isn't that one of the inner circles of Hell? "
How many years with the fire Department? wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:29 AM:
" Not many, We all retire between 50-55 at what we made while working with paid health insurance hanging on as well. "
To get a life wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:29 AM:
" How do you like you over-paid job with your over-budgeted department? Is your recliner comfortable enough?? Just want to make sure my TAX dollars are not being wasted! "
New bank wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:28 AM:
" Any time government gets involved, it will cost more money and for sure they will screw it up. "
To Get a Life wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:08 AM:
" So, how many years have you been with the Fire Department? "
The way it looks to me... wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:08 AM:
" ...is Tri state ambulance got a new person to run the show. He saw there were changes that needed to be made to improve the system. Now we have ambulances staged in different areas instead of backed into a garage. From the info posted on their website, it looks like it works. Why is that a bad thing? Did they do this just so they could beat the fire department to calls? That doesn't sound right to me, but it has improved their response times. Has the fire department done anything to improve theirs? Never hear anything from Chief Cleveland about how they are making improvements with what they have now. C'mon Fire Department - if you want it, step up to the plate, take a swing and show that you CAN do it with what you have, not just WANT to do it or THINK you can! "
Of course they are! wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:08 AM:
" It is the only way left for them to place their hands on this 'cash flow' cash cow. These people have sepent $1.20 and take in $1.00. "
RE; Get a life! wrote on Jun 7, 2007 9:05 AM:
" I suggest your the one to move out of town. People are concerned about wasteful mismanagement by Johnsrud. If you feel they have no right to be concerned, your the one seriously mistaken about the city, and should leave. "
A big thanks to the mayors office wrote on Jun 7, 2007 8:38 AM:
" Do you know what you have done in the interim of this bickering? You have put a strain on what has been a very good working relationship with the ambulance and the FD. Do you want to know what they do now? Do you? They try everything in their power to beat eachother to the scene now!!!! Do you think that puts people at unnecessary risk? Why do you think you see Tri-State ambulances staging all over creation now? They are strategically placed to keep response times to bare minimum. Once again, a big thanks to the mayors' office. "
Get a life! wrote on Jun 7, 2007 8:22 AM:
" I saw on the news one night a sign in the TSA's office it says "If we do what we have always done we'll get what we always got." How do we know the city starting an ambulance service is a bad idea? We don't, plain and simple. Would all of you so against this be opposed if this was a "private" ambulance service that wanted to start? I suppose they'd be unqualified too. If you don't like it MOVE out of the city, because it will happen. Like it or not. "
bob wrote on Jun 7, 2007 7:37 AM:
" "If it aint broke, don't fix it." End of discussion. End of medeation. Period. We have a private business that is providing this healthcare service better than the city could; and doing it at no cost to the taxpayers. Johnsrud's latest brainchild is to "gut" a private business -- jeopardizing its ability to deliver services within and (very importantly) outside the city -- while feeding his insatiable appetite for wasting taxpayer dollars. Did I mention, "if it aint broke, don't fix it?" "
STOP THIS WASTE NOW. wrote on Jun 7, 2007 7:34 AM:
" If Johnsrud doesn't firgure out very quickly he is a wasteful incompetent putz, mayby a recall is in order to bring the point to him. This is a total waste of money. Stop this waste right now. Leave it to operate exactly as it does now. Johnsrud's legacy as a mayor is going to be just like bush's. Incompetent idiot who destroyed reputation and brought disrespect to his office. "
I don't see the need... wrote on Jun 7, 2007 1:53 AM:
" ...to reinvent the wheel. We already have an ambulance service. When was the last time government was able to do something better than private industry? When private industry fails, they go out of business. When government fails, our taxes go up even more. How about telling the fire department to just stick to firefighting? No more fancy boats, hazardous materials cleanup, collapse rescue, rope rescue, and some of the other stuff on the news lately. I know most of it was paid for with grants, but it takes our taxpayer dollars to maintain, insure, and staff this stuff. I don't get it... "
Why are we expanding the FD? wrote on Jun 7, 2007 1:44 AM:
" Why are we expanding the fire department when other services are being cut? How about trimming some of the fat on the fire department? I know we have fire trucks just in case someone has a fire, but really, some of the other stuff they do - and now EMS transport piled on top? Pretty soon the firefighters will be complaining about how overworked they are and want to increase staffing levels. "
Mayor Johnsrud and Chief Cleveland: wrote on Jun 7, 2007 1:41 AM:
" GET OVER YOURSELVES! Stop stroking your egos and listen to the taxpayers. We cannot afford to start an ambulance service that is provided to us FREE already! Will each of you put your neck on the chopping block when this 'improved service' fails to yield the 'projected results' or will this too be chalked up to just another anomaly? "
DB wrote on Jun 7, 2007 1:36 AM:
" The City of LaCrosse recently had one of the largest property tax increases in the state (10%). How on earth is investing in a fire-based EMS transport system going to help offset the property taxes? IT WON'T! Why is the fire department/mayors office holding the implementation of EMD hostage? They want an ambulance that says LaCrosse FD on the side of it (which won't do ANYTHING to improve EMS in the city limits, but will have repercussions to the rest of the county) Typical of government: If it doesn't work the way you want, throw more money at it! Who's going to accept responsibility for these blunders when they don't work? "
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