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Published - Friday, June 15, 2007

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City agrees to initial mediation on ambulance issue


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La Crosse officials agreed Thursday to attend a July mediation session with the county, Tri-State Ambulance and area hospital officials to discuss possibly providing ambulance service for city residents.

While it gave city officials permission to attend the July 10 meeting, the Common Council wants to discuss the issue further next month and potentially give its blessing for continued mediations.
Council member George Italiano introduced a resolution Thursday that would allow the city to enter mediation with La Crosse County, Tri-State Ambulance Service/Gundersen Lutheran and Franciscan Skemp after the July meeting.

While he’s “not necessarily for” the city providing ambulance service, Italiano said, he wants to move the issue along.

The request for mediation, which initially came from Mayor Mark Johnsrud, arose after city officials indicated they wanted to explore having the fire department provide ambulance service.

But Tri-State officials said fracturing the system could hurt the quality of emergency medical services to the rest of county, a concern shared by county officials. Tri-State, owned by Gundersen Lutheran since 2001, has provided ambulance service in the county for 35 years.

Having the city provide the service would be more efficient, improve services and potentially provide new revenue, Johnsrud has argued.

The fire department already sends first responders and emergency medical technicians to nearly all medical emergencies in the city and would train its EMTs as paramedics if it added ambulance service, he has said.

County and Tri-State officials say they support improving the system but are skeptical a city ambulance service could maintain four core principles: regional delivery, clinical quality, control overall health care costs and be collaborative and inclusive of partners.

The July 10 meeting asks the “mediator to determine if we should go into mediation,” Johnsrud said.

That will be determined by where each party stands, Tri-State Director Matt Zavadsky said, and what guidelines should be followed if the process moves forward. If further mediation occurs, Johnsrud and Zavadsky agreed a state official with EMS knowledge should be included.

The county has hired Madison attorney and mediator Howard Bellman for the July 10 session, at a cost of $250 an hour, plus expenses.

The session will not be open to the public, County Administrator Steve O’Malley said Wednesday.

Other Council Action

The La Crosse Common Council took the following actions Thursday:

Combining city departments

The vote: Approved, 12-6

The proposal: To make the Building and Inspections Department a division of a retitled Planning and Development Department. City Planner Larry Kirch would oversee it, with Bill Branson as chief inspector for the Inspections division. City officials estimate it will save up to $100,000 annually, since the Inspections department head position will be eliminated. The new department will move to City Hall’s third floor later this year.

In favor: Jon Olson, George Italiano, Jai Johnson, Jacie Gamroth, Bill Harnden, Dorothy Lenard, Doug Farmer, Audrey Kader, Bernard Maney, Tom Sweeney, Joe Ledvina and Dick Swantz.

Against: Andrea Richmond, Jim Bloedorn, Richard Becker, Bruce Ranis and Marilyn Wigdahl.

Reducing capital borrowing

The vote: Failed, 3-14

The proposal: To require the city reduce capital borrowing by $667,500 a year for 10 years, introduced by council member Jim Bloedorn, who felt the city needs to live within its means. By cutting borrowing for a decade, the money saved on interest can be added to the general budget, he argued. The state restricts municipal indebtedness to 5 percent of the city’s total equalized value, and the city has a policy to limit borrowing to 75 percent of the state ceiling, finance director Gene Pfaff has said. Under those, the city can accrue $109 million in borrowing; it has borrowed $96 million.

Against: Jon Olson, George Italiano, Jai Johnson, Jacie Gamroth, Bill Harnden, Dorothy Lenard, Richard Becker, Doug Farmer, Audrey Kader, Bernard Maney, Tom Sweeney, Joe Ledvina, Marilyn Wigdahl and Dick Swantz.

In favor: Andrea Richmond, Jim Bloedorn and Bruce Ranis.

Kate Schott can be reached at kschott@lacrossetribune.com or (608) 791-8226.
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re: to:something overheard wrote on Jun 16, 2007 11:32 PM:

" why should "someone look into it"? all the info is on the Citys website, just click on budget. the debt service is over 12 mil, and bigger than the police or the fire departments budgets, but not the total of both of them. and as interest rates rise, so does the debt load. "

To: Something Overheard wrote on Jun 16, 2007 2:38 PM:

" If you are anywhere near the truth with this, it is the most outragious thing I have ever heard!! I would love for someone to look into this. Would it be asking too much of the Tribune? THIS IS CRAZY! "

Something overheard? wrote on Jun 16, 2007 9:22 AM:

" From a previous leader of our fair City. We now pay enough interest each year that would support our Police and Fire Services. "

Maney? wrote on Jun 15, 2007 11:59 PM:

" He was scared of being sent to committee obscurity hell. These guys think they are the Sopranos. Even down to the collections or a 'little for their beek'. They will find out come election time. "

Maney switched vote on borrowing restriction- I'm wondering why? wrote on Jun 15, 2007 10:48 PM:

" I see Andrea Richmond, Ranis, and Bloedorn were the only ones to truly "bite the bullet" on borrowing/spending in La Crosse city cap budget. Good for them! What happened to Mr. Maney's vote for this between Tuesday and Thursday? Anyone have any idea why he changed his mind? Curious. "

joe emt wrote on Jun 15, 2007 8:03 PM:

" Just think, a Mediator to decide if a mediator is needed. And at the bargain basement price of $250 per hr plus expenses. Awesome use of tax payers money. I am so glad we have such wise leaders NOT "

hmmm... wrote on Jun 15, 2007 6:47 PM:

" if the City takes over the city area on the ambulance service. i think i feel another "anomaly" coming on. "

wow wrote on Jun 15, 2007 3:33 PM:

" Maney has no backbone, wow thats a suprise!!! I think he is the mayors little mouse in the corner. "

Of course they would agree to mediation! wrote on Jun 15, 2007 2:09 PM:

" How else would you take over a present service. These City leaders are looking for money and cash flow. At a closer look they are two very different things. They are in such dire straights for expenses vs. cash coming in they will even take 'cash flow' to turn old debt and to stop its rolling into the future past due ledgers. "

rjm wrote on Jun 15, 2007 1:30 PM:

" I see they met in private(get ready folks we are going to have it shoved down our throats), but hey Marky MARK there would be no secrets at city hall.Good luck at LHI Mr. Mayor, your stay here was short and not sweet!!! "

Maney conceded wrote on Jun 15, 2007 10:17 AM:

" No surprise here !!!! "

unwashed plebian taxpayer wrote on Jun 15, 2007 10:01 AM:

" Mr. Johnsrud and common council members: As I observe your insatiable appetite for taking over private businesses; off-the-scale, highest-in-the-state tax levy increase of 9.9%; and refusal to further restrict barrowing, I’m reminded of these words: “Liberty has never come from government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of government. The history of liberty is a history of the limitation of governmental power, not the increase of it.” -- Woodrow Wilson I would encourage taxpayers to tuck these words away since the “closed” meeting with the mediator – that would be the one where the public will not be allowed to attend -- so the mayor and council members at least know we’re thinking of them! "


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