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La Crosse church to begin offering Sunday Mass in Spanish


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A Catholic church in La Crosse plans to offer a Mass in Spanish on the first Sunday of every month, starting this Sunday.

“It’s way overdue,” said the Rev. Joseph Hirsch, who will conduct the 12:30 p.m. Mass at Mary, Mother of the Church, 2006 Weston St. “There’s a large Spanish presence in the diocese, and here we are in La Crosse and we have no Spanish Mass.”
Father Joe Hirsch , and Decon Richard Sage of Mary , Mother of the Church pose outside the church where they have started a Mass in Spanish . Dick Riniker photo

Hirsch and Deacon Richard Sage, who will assist at the Mass, said they think it will be the first regularly scheduled Spanish Mass in La Crosse County.

The Mass is among the La Crosse Diocese’s efforts to reach out to the area’s Hispanic population, which, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, numbered 1,007 in La Crosse County in 2005.

“If they are truly going to be integrated into American society, they should not only be integrated politically and economically, but they need to be integrated spiritually, and that is the role of the church,” Hirsch said.

The diocese now has a native Spanish speaker from Peru, the Rev. Enrique Castro, who is creating a Web site in Spanish for the diocese.

A second Peruvian priest could arrive by the end of summer, and the Rev. Hector Moreno, associate pastor at St. Elizabeth Ann Seton in Holmen, Wis., is of Puerto Rican ancestry and speaks Spanish.

A major reason Spanish Masses were not done in the county until now is a shortage of Spanish-speaking priests, Hirsch explained.

Hirsch, director of vocations for the diocese, will take one priest and three seminarians to study Spanish and work in an orphanage in Peru this summer, and has been sending seminarians to Peru and Bolivia for the past three summers. He hopes the seminarians one day will be able to minister to the Hispanic population here.

Weekly Masses already are said in Spanish at diocese churches in Wausau, Norwalk, Arcadia, Altoona and Abbotsford in Wisconsin.

Hirsch did Mass in Spanish weekly from 1998 to 2002 in Norwalk, which has offered Spanish Masses since about 1990.

Sage, executive director of Catholic Charities, and Christopher Ruff, director of ministries and social concerns, have met with those in Spanish ministries since April and with Hirsch for about a month to develop a Spanish Mass.

Sage said the diocese eventually hopes to have a Hispanic ministry director.

The diocese has done Mass in German, French, Polish, Hmong and other languages in the past to accommodate immigrants, Sage said, so “this isn’t wildly innovative. This is primarily, first and foremost, a spiritual outreach.”

Joe Orso can be reached at (608) 791-8429 or jorso@lacrossetribune.com.
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Lou Dobbs to Pat Buchanan (10:10 AM post) wrote on Jun 28, 2007 6:47 PM:

" I bet my anti-immigrant drivel will outsell yours. "

To Sensationlists from Fred wrote on Jun 28, 2007 6:40 PM:

" Very well well stated. I agree wholeheartedly, especially with your last sentence. "

Re:Sensationalists wrote on Jun 28, 2007 6:30 PM:

" Go to google and watch "Immigration Gumball". You will find the best way to help foreign citizens. I certainly hope you get a warm fuzzy feeling in thinking that America is still the land of opportunity with plenty of space for all.Watch the vid. It will pull your head out of the sand so fast you may get dizzy. "

Sensationalists wrote on Jun 28, 2007 3:42 PM:

" You people are quite clever with your usage of the words illegal and criminal. It's nonsense. Do some Mexican immigrants cross into the United States illegally? Of course. But you're missing the point. I'd like to point out the difference between destroying property and living in the U.S. illegally - they are not one in the same crime. You purposely throw around the word criminal in an attempt to make your argument better by making them out as bad people. However, it falls flat. Some of these people are in real need of help, that's why they come here. Perhaps if we were willing to actually help them and make sure they know how to become legal citizens, we wouldn't have any problems. But so long as you stay on your english-only high horses, you're contributing to the problem, rather than solving it. "

Re: Heather, Heather, Heather wrote on Jun 28, 2007 3:33 PM:

" "And Wisconsin wasn't "stolen" from the indians. The British and French had much to do with its legal aqusition." ---- How exactly was their "aqusition" legal? This entire continent belonged to the Natives and was taken from them in the first place. And when they "legally aquired" this land, it was done by trickery. It was only "legal" because we decided it was. You, my friend, are the one in need of a history lesson. "

RE: Re: Thank you posted at 6:38 am wrote on Jun 28, 2007 10:43 AM:

" LOL- that was hilarious! Let churches preach in whatever language they would like. More power to them. But remember, a lot of people are debating about ILLEGAL immigrants, not legal. If you come into this country ILLEGALLY, you are breaking the law. The same as if you stole something, or destroyed property. Most of you posters would be irate if someone stole your car or spray painted graffiti on your house, but it's okay that someone down the street is a criminal, just the same? God does love everyone the same- Even the criminals. "

Perry Mason wrote on Jun 28, 2007 10:14 AM:

" I had an Hispanic friend and a Norwegian friend over to the house last night. We dined on a combination of tamales, burritos, lefse and lutefisk, washed down with cold glasses of champagne. The conversation, in English, was as sparkling as the wine. "

Pat Buchanan wrote on Jun 28, 2007 10:10 AM:

" Buy my book. I don't care if you read it, I just want you to buy it. Line my pockets with your dollars, so that I can continue to profit by exploiting the dupes who will parrot my anti-immigrant drivel verbatim. "

Re:thank you wrote on Jun 28, 2007 6:38 AM:

" I agree - those Norwegians were constantly sneaking into the country under and over the walls and fences we built to keep them out. They flaunted their criminal behavior. They took skilled jobs from us Germans.They sucked up all the social services available, schools. hospitals, etc. Of all the illegal immigrants, the Norwegians were the most crime prone because of the culture of corruption back in their homeland. "

thank you wrote on Jun 27, 2007 11:50 PM:

" Reading this has given me a good chuckle for the evening. You know I'm a redneck if.......As a person growing up in the Westby area I knew of many Norwegian immigrants who spoke two languages, English and Norwegian, and one of our local churches celebrated mass in Norwegian for many years so to say learn English or go back. It took a couple of generations for our ancestors to assimilate so why don't we allow the same for the newer immigrants. Where is your tolerance? "

60 miles south wrote on Jun 27, 2007 10:46 PM:

" Read Patrick Buchanan's "State of Emergency" and it'll open your eyes to what is really happening here and in our country. I have no problem with any church reaching out to a segment of our society. The greater question should be why this is necessary in the first place? "

RE; Fred wrote on Jun 27, 2007 9:03 PM:

" As there are no "Native Americans" your logic is absurd. They are descendents of land bridge immigrants. "

American freedom of choice! wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:53 PM:

" If these Americans decided they wish to worship in Spanish, then they have that right by the Constitution. Telling someone they need to learn the common language of English for them to worship their Creator is a disgrace to the Constitution and its right to Freedom of Religon. At one time the masses were done in Latin, yet no one complained then? What if "God" decided that for us to worship, it had to be in the angelic tongue or it is not good enough? "

Heather, Heather, Heather wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:47 PM:

" You have fallen for today's version of PC history. The Texians and Tejanos revolted against the Mexican government. No stealing was involved. And Wisconsin wasn't "stolen" from the indians. The British and French had much to do with its legal aqusition. Past history cannot be used for foolish mistakes today. Reading captions of chapters in history books will never give you the full picture. "

Re:why advertise your ignorance wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:42 PM:

" You chose a good name. You haven't seen "immigration gumball". I have no problem with a church catering to it's members. The question is WHY do they have so many hispanics. We all know the obvious truth. Illegal immigration. Legal immigration alone is overwhelming our resources. All I read on the Trib's board is people bitterly complaining about taxes and low pay. The high rate of legals combined with millions of illegals is going to swamp the ship. "

Nick wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:22 PM:

" My appologies for those reading these comments who are planning on attending. Don't those of you complaining about this realize that these are other human beings you a verbaly bashing here? America is a FREE COUNTRY, people can worship and speak freely in any language they choose. "

if they want to be integrated wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:20 PM:

" they should learn the language. My grandparents came from Germany, yet I only heard them speak English. It is annoying that everyone all of a sudden wants to cater to the Spanish-speaking people. Ever call a business lately, you have to wait for the prompt for the English menus. Enough!! If they want to come here to live, then learn English or get out!! "

Some Facts... wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:13 PM:

" According to a recent United Way of Salt Lake survey, more than 80 percent of immigrants and refugees say they have formally tried to learn English. Read this article. It's worth your time. http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_6238767 "

Fred wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:14 PM:

" The vast majority of people in this country do not speak the languages of the original Americans including Cherokee, Navaho, Commanche, Hopi and many others. If we follow the logic of the people who believe Spanish should not be spoken or honored in this country because "We are in America and we have spoken English since before this nation was created", then we need to speak the language of the original natives of this country (Cherokee, Hopi, etc.) because they were here before the English speaking people and, therefore, are entitled to have their language and traditions honored. The bottom line is God's love and laws as expressed in the Scriptures transcend all languages and traditions. "

To WOW wrote on Jun 27, 2007 6:46 PM:

" And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle! "

Why do people care wrote on Jun 27, 2007 6:08 PM:

" If they want to have mass in spanish let them, if you feel compelled to go but offended you dont understand pretend its in latin, and to who ever said church is a public place your very mistaken. "

why advertise your ignorance wrote on Jun 27, 2007 4:36 PM:

" It's too bad that some organization can't sponsor a support group for the English-speaking, hostile caucasions posting here. They could take turns ranting and raving on the demise of our country due to immigration and the diversity of our population. They could commisurate on their unfounded and unbiased fear and mistrust for those who speak other languages. Come to think of it - I think there is an organization for these people who feel a certain amount of supremacy because of their race.... "

From Wikipedia wrote on Jun 27, 2007 4:14 PM:

" The Spanish language has been spoken in North America since the 16th century. Ponce de León is the first Spaniard known to have visited North America, in 1513. In 1565, the Spaniards founded St. Augustine, Florida, the oldest continuously occupied European settlement in the modern territory of the United States. ---------- For the love of God, learn about culture! You make us all look like hateful bigots who are very very self absorbed. "

Wow wrote on Jun 27, 2007 4:10 PM:

" That Immigration Gumball video is pretty startling. Regardless of what side you fall on the issue, those are some scary numbers this country is going to have to deal with. "

Earl Madary (Part 2) wrote on Jun 27, 2007 4:00 PM:

" First of all in response to Patriot…I am not taking the bait. Try that on someone else it is not going to work on me. Second and more importantly, Joe’s feature on a Spanish Language Mass in La Crosse is not about immigration. It might be helpful to stick to what the article is about. It is about a church community trying to serve its members as fully as it can by using all of its various resources to welcome and minister to the people of God who gather for the Eucharist. As far as why Christians might want to do this I find it helpful to read the Gospel of John Chapter 13:1-20 or the Gospel of Matthew chapter 25:31-46 or even the Book of Genesis Chapter 1:27. I am focusing on Christians here because the article is about a Roman Catholic (Christian) Church. "

Concerned wrote on Jun 27, 2007 3:59 PM:

" Spanish is a beautiful language and many people in the U.S. speak it. You people need to learn that outside of your sheltered little lives in the US, an entire world exists. It's called culture. Learn about it and stop being so closed minded. In addition, the Catholic Church is Universal - it exists all around the world and is not bound to any country or language. And for something so beautiful and sacred to Hispanic culture, the Mass, it ought to be offered to them in a language they are comfortable with. It doesn't mean they don't know English. You wonder why everyone in the world hates us? Did you know that in Europe, the children learn many different languages, including English? Because they are aware of the diverse culture in the world, and look to embrace it. Get a clue. "

Out Of Towner wrote on Jun 27, 2007 3:42 PM:

" To get to the point...The ONLY native languge here is American Indian. The ONLY natives here are the American Indian. The rest of us are all Immigrants of some form or other... "

Ashamed wrote on Jun 27, 2007 3:38 PM:

" It's ignorant people like some of you that make me ashamed to be from this area.. It's really sad. What kind of "melting pot" is this country if we can't accept anyone who speaks a different language or looks different than us? By the way, there's a war going on, start thinking about that and not worrying about one mass a month. "

Heather wrote on Jun 27, 2007 3:29 PM:

" Everyone needs to quit being so hateful. A lot of America was once Mexico, but we bullied it out of their hands like we're doing with the oil in Iraq JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE WHITE, DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE RIGHT! "

Kick Jesus out because he is illegal? wrote on Jun 27, 2007 3:24 PM:

" Of course! He can apply for a work visa. He can get a passport and visit for a while. He can legally apply for entry and citizenship. Why would Jesus break the law? "

Judge not wrote on Jun 27, 2007 3:20 PM:

" It is amazing to me the amount of hatred and ignorance that this community shows. Because one church is offering a service in another language, we must post ignorant and hateful comments? Get real people, it wasn't that long ago that your family didn't speak English. If they went to church, I guarantee that their service was in their native language. Why can you not accept your fellow man if he is not exactly like you? Perhaps if you had ever set foot inside a church you would remember "Judge not..." "

We couldn't catch Jesus wrote on Jun 27, 2007 3:19 PM:

" Do you people really still believe that some one goes out looking for illegals and deports them? The church is correct in applying their ministry. The readers and writers are correct in asking WHY it is necessary. Our political leaders are about to sell American citizenship. instead of writing here, write your representative. "

Pat Riot wrote on Jun 27, 2007 3:00 PM:

" Again, would you folks kick Jesus out of the country because he was illegal and can't speak english? "

We have tourists from Spain? wrote on Jun 27, 2007 2:51 PM:

" Nicely done Joe! You mention a "Spanish presence" and the word "hispanic" is used. The priests are from Peru and Puerto Rico. What a shock to find no mention of where these "Spanish" people are from (I assume Spain?)! A "Spanish" population sprung to life in the coulee region!?! Of course I don't think all hispanics are illegals, but... Can we explain the tippy toe around the word Mexican? Or illegal immigrant? Nice try at writing a politically neutered column.Looks like your readers saw through it. "

We need an immediate end to legal immigration. wrote on Jun 27, 2007 2:39 PM:

" Go to Google, Type in "Immigration Gumball". Watch the video. If you are an American, you must see this. This professional presentation will shock you and change your mind. It is not bigoted, and not racist. It lays out in clear terms why legal immigration must be stopped or reduced drastically. THEN start talking about ILLEGAL immigration! "

The second coming came and went wrote on Jun 27, 2007 2:25 PM:

" I wonder if Jesus has already been back, but because he didn't speak English (he probably spoke Hebrew), and let's face it, had an "ethnic" look about him, Immigration picked him up and sent him to Mexico because he didn't have the proper documentation. Oops! Oh well, at least we kept our borders safe and weren't completely inconvenienced by someone not speaking English. Missing out on eternal salvation is a small price to pay. For the slower readers, this was one of those sarcastic posts. "

Steve wrote on Jun 27, 2007 2:15 PM:

" I'm convinced this anonymous comment ability does more harm than good. I'm all for discourse, but more often than not it just seems to generate hostility and provide a platform for the ignorant. I'm going to stop reading these posts as it appears to bring out the worst in people. It's like listening one big, caustic arguement. "

Patriot to Earl Madary wrote on Jun 27, 2007 1:29 PM:

" If you claim that a church must violate, or encourage the violation of U.S. law and sovereignty, then I say that church needs to close and it's leaders thrown in jail. How is that for you? "

Perhaps..... wrote on Jun 27, 2007 1:18 PM:

" it would do most of these nasty bloggers some good to attend a Mass or religious service in English themselves. Fortunately for them, by attending Mass, our Hispanic community will have the grace and fortitude to forgive these ignorant counterparts in society today. God Bless! "

Re: Learn English wrote on Jun 27, 2007 1:17 PM:

" Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mexico a part of NORTH AMERICA? Maybe it's time to go back to geography.....just another ignorant reader..... "

Earl Madary wrote on Jun 27, 2007 1:08 PM:

" I am sad to say that some of you are missing the point. First and foremost, thank you Father Joe and Deacon Richard for taking on this important act of hospitality to our brothers and sisters who are our new neighbors. Your generosity of self and hospitality of the parish that is hosting this Mass is great! Second, in response to some of the more negative posts…Roman Catholicism is a global Church made up of almost 1 billion members, most of whom do not speak English as a first language…as far as Christ and his Church are concerned there is no such thing as an illegal human being…our Jesus is here in La Crosse as is written in the Gospels it is for those with eyes willing to see and ears willing to hear. Come on friends and neighbors this is a good thing. Open your hearts. "

re: Let Me Get This Straight..... wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:56 PM:

" Apparently, you missed out on your grammer and puncuation classes in school. What country should we send you back to since you are toO lazy to learn your NATIVE language? P.S. Not ALL spanish speaking immigrants are illegal. You are quite ignorant. "

Patriot wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:52 PM:

" Let's see if the 3rd time is the charm and my comments about the church get posted and not censored out. Many churches are willing to aid and abed illegal immigrants and illegal immigration. They do this to evangelize & gain membership (along with the revenue and influence it brings). This is done at the expense of the law and of the legitimate citizens of our country. In short, not only do many churches try to attract illegals here, they often encourage and try to help more such illegal immigration to happen. Not all that churches to is good. "

La Crosse Church to begin offering english classes after Mass... wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:49 PM:

" should be the headline. C'mon people; stop enabling. "

re: Dean wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:34 PM:

" Very well said. It is disgusting how stereotypical the "Christians" posting on this board are. Our neighbors speak Spanish and are here LEGALLY and are NOT from Mexico. They have lived here for nearly 10 years and have done well learning the English language. Jesus did not speak English, nor was the Bible originally written in English. To the complainers: when this new change impacts you directly, then come back and whine. "

to History Lesson wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:20 PM:

" Good idea then even the "Christian" people posting on this site, telling them to go home, wouldn't understand the mass either, therby putting them in the same boat "

Learn English wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:19 PM:

" Ok so now when we call the church are we going to have to press 1 for English and press 2 for Spanish. Learn the language. You live in this country...this is "NORTH AMERICA,"(USA) not North Mexico, North Spain, North anything that speaks Spanish...and for that matter any other language. Gee I am waiting to call the church or any other organization and hear, "Press 1 for English, 2 for Spanish, 3 for Hmong, 4 for Norweign, 5 for Russian, 6 for Spanglish, 7 Chinese, 8 Japanese, and so forth and so forth and so forth. Grow Up. You live in the wonderful USA. Learn the language. "

Hmm wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:04 PM:

" I wonder if Joe wrote an inherently good story, thinking it would cause such a firestorm of hatred for people of other races? Yeah, I suppose he probably did. He knows La Crosse well enough, at this point. "

Bugs Raplin to Eyes Opened wrote on Jun 27, 2007 11:58 AM:

" What part of "illegal" don't you understand? My sense is that bleeding hearts like yourself would open up the country to anyone who wanted to come here. This immigration "reform" is nothing but a payoff to the corporations and agri-business industries who'll be able to reduce wages accordingly. The biggest losers will be poor Americans. I do concede the church service is a "private" thing so I was wrong in criticizing it. But all legal immigrants must make the effort to learn the English language and assimilate. "

Pat Riot wrote on Jun 27, 2007 11:24 AM:

" If your Jesus arrived here in La Crosse and didn't speak english would you tell him to go back? History Lesson made a good point. If things were done in Latin do you think a point would be made to end services that way? These spanish speaking residents of the area more than likely have a deeper rooted faith than those of you who go to church for an hour a week and then turn around and complain because everyone isn't like you. Isn't tolerance one of the things that they talk of in church or is that only in the Spanish Sunday Mass? "

wow wrote on Jun 27, 2007 11:11 AM:

" Did it say somewhere the the immigrants are demanding a mass in spanish? I doubt anyone coming to the USA from another country expects people to do this for them. I think it's really great that the church is offering this to spanish speakers, most of whom ARE trying to learn English, but in the mean time are still able to worship. This is not unusual, my family attended a spanish mass for several years in Milwaukee. Today they all speak English, none of them even have an accent but they didn't speak English they day they arrived from Mexico. It took a few years. And some of my family still attend the spanish mass. "

The appalling thing is..... wrote on Jun 27, 2007 11:03 AM:

" I would reach out to my "neighbors" if they were Mexican-AMERICANS!! They are criminals if they are here illegally. It would be no different if someone stole your purse, but they worked REAL HARD at a job no one else wanted. They are still criminals. I am, by no means, against immigration. LEGAL immigration. Come to our country legally just like everyone else has had to and I will welcome you. Personally I could care less what the catholic church is doing. I'm sure they are desperately seeking parishiners and will do whatever they can to bring them in. "

Wow wrote on Jun 27, 2007 11:02 AM:

" If the Spanish had settlrd this country, we would all be saying mass in spanish. "

har wrote on Jun 27, 2007 10:56 AM:

" Makes it easier for the INS to find them then "

wrote on Jun 27, 2007 10:56 AM:

" Ah yes, Christianity....the religion of peace....intollerance, bigotry, fear, and hypocrisy....alive and well. Instead of blaming the real cause of the flood of immigration- the govenmentIncorporated who want neo-slave labor for big business - you blame the people who were forced to flee their country for the survival of their families, due to a devestated economy thanks to "free trade." Open your eyes and look no further than nafta, cafta, north american union, former mexican presidentFox-former CEO of Coca-Cola-handing out border crossing survival kits. "

re: Dean wrote on Jun 27, 2007 10:52 AM:

" Well said Dean but unfortunately many of the ignorant ones that post here will not understand or accept what you are trying to get across. "

for crying out loud!! wrote on Jun 27, 2007 10:32 AM:

" It is one service, once a month - get a life and get over it! They are not trying to change all of the services all of the time. and for the illegals learn the language or get out and take the steps to become a legal worker or better yet apply for citizenship. "

Eyes Opened wrote on Jun 27, 2007 10:19 AM:

" To Bugs Raplin: Until the legals learn English are they not supposed to have access to expressing worship in their own language? As far as illegals, I guess I have to assume that because your post is a "well thought out" argument, that you can also tell a legal from an illegal by just seeing them walk down the sidewalk. ...Trite! "

??? wrote on Jun 27, 2007 10:02 AM:

" If you don't speak Spanish and you are not going to attend how does this effect you at all? Quit looking for things to complain about! "

Re: Are you serious?? wrote on Jun 27, 2007 10:00 AM:

" Maybe you should learn English. "Bigot" has one "g." "

Nick wrote on Jun 27, 2007 9:54 AM:

" 1. Not all spanish speakers are illegal 2. Not all spanish speakers are from Mexico. You people need to get out of your shacks once and a while "git sum learnin' on other cultures". It won't hurt you, I promise. "

To disgusted: wrote on Jun 27, 2007 9:52 AM:

" Really??? This nation can only trace it's design back to English settlers? I know for a fact that when my family emigrated here from Prussia in 1865, some of them refused to speak English and moved into largely German communities. I'm sure they knew enough to get by when need be, but they felt no need to "assimilate" in the free world. They had their traditions and their way of life they were free to carry on. The "make them learn our language and traditions" argument will always fall flat when paired against how this country came into existence. I've always wondered, what is an American tradition they should learn anyway: football? I won't lose any sleep because people are learning about God in another language. "

What's a church for? wrote on Jun 27, 2007 9:23 AM:

" It's not a church's place (or anyone's, really) to judge people based on their legal status, country of origin, or language skills. A church's mission is to provide a place where all people can find compassion, understanding, and spiritual support. Providing mass in Spanish is doing that for many people who have been missing out. How is this hurting anyone? "

Dean wrote on Jun 27, 2007 9:01 AM:

" Presenting a spanish mass once a month in one church in a moderate sized midwestern city hardly amounts to changing our national language. It also by no way means that those attending are not trying to learn english. You and I were fortunate enough to be born in the greatest country in the world. That doesn't make us better than these people, just luckier. When I was an exchange student in south america I occasionally bought an american newspaper or went to a movie in english just because it was comfortable and enjoyable for me. Nobody tried to drive me out of the country for using my native language. Instead of being ingnorant and scared of somebody different, many people I met became my friends and helped me learn their language. "

Re:Disgusted wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:27 AM:

" 1. a church is not a public place, its private 2. "we" (USA) have not only spoken English since the beginning, we have spoken many other languages, i can't even list them all here. My we are a selfish and egotistical nation. "

Bugs Raplin to wrote on Jun 27, 2007 8:21 AM:

" Oh, please, spare me your goody two shoes, the world is round routine-the majority of the posts are well thought out and I certainly agree with them. Let the legal immigrants learn English and the illegal ones go back to where they came from-the key word, of course, is illegal. "

Eyes Opened wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:59 AM:

" Here, here, good Father and Deacon! God bless you for your efforts. In our community we need something like this as a reminder to us, that we need to reach out - to ALL people of ALL ethnic origins, ...because we are ALL the people of God (even those of us who deny that). This also serves to remind us that the world is much larger than La Crosse, WI. To those whose blog posted before this time of 7:56 AM, take an airplane ride and you will even see that the world is round too. "

Let's think about this.... wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:58 AM:

" How do people learn a new language? Mostly they learn it from speaking it with other people. How many of you who believe that offering this Spanish mass is disgusting have ever attempted to speak with a Hispanic in English? How many of you have ever tried to help any of our immigrant neighbors learn English? It is your responsibility because this is your community! Do not complain about something you have not even attempted to change!! "

. wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:53 AM:

" Catholic Churches all across the country have masses in many different languages to meet the ethnic needs of those around them. I've been to mass in Milwaukee where they say one service in English and one in Croatian; another that does one in English and Spanish. In Ohio, a church does a service in Slovenian and English and a few blocks away in English and Polish. Worshipping the Lord is for all people no matter what language they speak. "

Let me get this straight wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:51 AM:

" I break the law and sneak in another country,so they can bend over backwards to accomadate me.Because I'm a lawbreaker and to lazy to learn English!!! "

great wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:49 AM:

" i think this is wonderful. anytime a very large group of people invade your country, i think you should go out of your way to make it as nice for them as possible. printing their language on most signs and instructions was a good start. mass in their language is another good idea. now lets just hope that laws are changed so that sneaking in to our country is no longer illegal, then it will be almost perfect for them. "

History Lesson wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:41 AM:

" In the "old days" catholic mass was said in Latin. It wasn't until Vatican Council II that things changed. I say we should go back to the old ways! "

To my amigos wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:40 AM:

" These same people that can't speak our language somehow manage to get a drivers license. If you don't speak our language then it is time to go to the border again and I ain't talkin Taco Bell amigo "

Tim Wazaloski wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:35 AM:

" If the Diocese wants to reach out to the Hispanic community it would start up English as a 2nd language, not cave into their language. When my relative came here in the 1880's church was inPolish yes but at the same time they learned english "

BC wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:33 AM:

" If they don't know english and only speak spanish go back to Mexico. "

Disgusted wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:17 AM:

" Yes it's nice that people are expanding their minds and using a different language, but i dont believe that it is appropriate for a public place like a church to have mass in a different language. We are in America and we have spoken English since before this nation was created. These people speak English for the most part so keep the mass in English, and if they don’t speak English, maybe they should take a little time and learn it!!!!! "

well wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:13 AM:

" i see they didn't like my comment. "

Sad wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:08 AM:

" What a shame. This type of "feel good" action will only hinder legal immigrants from integrating into the community. Very sad. "

RW wrote on Jun 27, 2007 7:01 AM:

" Why not learn ENGLISH.. nothing left of this country what a mess shame on you "

Are you serious?? wrote on Jun 27, 2007 6:52 AM:

" LEARN ENGLISH. Call me a "biggot" if you want but in no way would I EVER move to another country and expect that my religion be spoken to me in my native language. "

DJ wrote on Jun 27, 2007 6:44 AM:

" You mean "Deacon"? "

Let wrote on Jun 27, 2007 5:50 AM:

" 'em learn English..... "

Why not wrote on Jun 27, 2007 1:29 AM:

" Make it the official language. Why must people demand change when they are the ones that decide to come here and reject to assimilate? "

Leticia wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:43 AM:

" Bueno Suerte! "

JL wrote on Jun 26, 2007 11:51 PM:

" “If they are truly going to be integrated into American society"... then they should learn ENGLISH! Go ahead and jump all over me I know you will. But I have taken the time to learn Spanish even though I live in WI. "


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