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Family asks court for right to die: Relatives, hospital want to end La Crosse woman’s suffering


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A 54-year-old La Crosse woman is being kept alive at Gundersen Lutheran Medical Center only by continuous sedation and a feeding tube.

She has had seven strokes since 1995, the most recent of which on April 23 caused a violent dementia with severe agitation, fear, anguish and delirium. She also has diabetes, anemia, pneumonia, respiratory failure and other medical conditions.
She refuses to eat or drink, and tore out feeding tubes in the past. The only way to keep feeding her, her doctors say, is to keep her sedated.

Her family has filed documents in La Crosse County Circuit Court to authorize Gundersen Lutheran to cease life-sustaining treatment.

A judge already has declared the woman incompetent and appointed her daughter as guardian.

But a guardian has no authority in Wisconsin to make that kind of treatment — or lack of treatment — decision unless the patient is in a persistent vegetative state or has expressed wishes through a conversation or advance directive.

The woman at Gundersen Lutheran meets neither requirement.

Robyn Shapiro, a Milwaukee attorney representing the woman’s family, said she knows the case will challenge Wisconsin Supreme Court rulings but believes the guardian should have more authority to make decisions, as provided by many other states.

“Will this case go all the way to the state Supreme Court? It could, but we all agree it is a terribly important case,” said Shapiro, who also is director of the Center for the Studies of Bioethics at the Medical College of Wisconsin. “We need to modify the restriction imposed by the court, and create more sophisticated and intelligent law.”

Shapiro had asked that the court “resolve this issue on an expedited basis” due to the woman’s dire medical condition and continued suffering.

But Circuit Judge Michael Mulroy, who retires July 31, has not set a hearing date.

“We were hoping to get a date in late July, because this poor woman is suffering even while she is sedated,” Shapiro said. The woman grimaces, she said, and frequently moans.

Shapiro wants the judge to appoint an attorney for the woman and an adversary attorney to argue the other side. If a judge grants the family’s request, Shapiro said she expects the adversary attorney to appeal the decision.

The family tried to get an advance directive from the woman and learn of her wishes, but they didn’t succeed, and never had a direct conversation with her about life-sustaining treatment, Shapiro said.

However, when competent, the woman’s actions showed she placed a high value on her personal dignity, Shapiro said.

Despite being weakened by health problems, she would exert great effort to get to the bathroom rather than soiling herself and she gave up her blood pressure medicine so she could pay bills on time, Shapiro said.

The family declined to comment, but Shapiro said they believe the woman would want her care to focus on comfort and relief, but not sustaining life.

Bernard Hammes, a medical ethicist and director of medical humanities for Gundersen Lutheran Medical Foundation, said the hospital’s Medical Ethics Committee agrees with the family’s decision.

“The family believes if the woman could speak for herself, she would choose not to have life-supporting measures such as a feeding tube,” Hammes said. “They believe she wouldn’t want to be kept in a permanently sedated state, which is far from normal, and the best care is to focus on her comfort and not have a goal of extending her life when there is unclear or no benefit.”

Hammes said the woman’s condition cannot be reversed. Doctors had a conference with the family, who requested hospice care, he said.

Doctors said total sedation with a feeding tube creates risks of aspiration — food inhaled into the lungs. The woman also is on insulin, needs frequent blood draws due to her anemia and probably will need blood transfusions some day.

“We don’t see how medical care can help this person,” Hammes said. “The burden of treatment for her is unacceptable, and she still suffers with treatment.”

When the woman is not sedated, she is out of control, Hammes said.

“We have a terrified, anguished woman not eating, and leaving her in an anguished, terrified state is inhumane treatment, and we have no way of relieving that anguish and terror without permanently sedating her,” he said.

The woman, referred to as M.R.N. in the legal guardianship petition, has been continuously hospitalized or in a nursing home since her last stroke. While hospitalized, she would not eat or drink and pulled out a feeding tube three times when medical staff tried to provide nutrition and hydration, Shapiro said.

After many medication attempts, the woman was kept calm and able to drink and eat adequately. She then was sent May 18 to Lakeview Health Care Center in West Salem, Wis.

On June 7, the woman was transferred back to Gundersen Lutheran in a locked psychiatric unit after her agitation returned and she threatened nursing home staff.

Extensive tests and multiple medications led doctors to decide the woman’s dementia, agitation, anguish and delirium will not improve, and treatment short of total sedation will not manage her condition.

“The problem is we can’t really help her, but only extend her suffering,” Hammes said.

ABOUT ADVANCE DIRECTIVES

WHAT: An advanced directive is a statement of how a patient would want health decisions to be made if they become incapable of making those decisions. Formal documents include living wills, declaration to physicians and power of attorney for health care. In Wisconsin, the appointment of a power of attorney is important.

DISCUSS: In a crisis, the medical record (and the patient’s advance directive) may not be instantly available and medical staff may begin emergency care to sustain life. However, treatment can be stopped if the patient’s wishes are known and a power of attorney has been appointed. Have a discussion with your family.

CHOICES: Patients can change their minds. Advance directives may be changed or revoked at any time, as long as the patient is capable of making a decision.

HOW TO GET STARTED: To get advance directive documents at Franciscan Skemp Healthcare, call (608) 392-9754, or (608) 393-9505. At www.gundersenlutheran.org, you can download a booklet on advance directives, a power of attorney for health-care document that meets the state law in Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota and a 20-minute tutorial that guides you through the document. You also can call Gundersen Lutheran at (608) 782-7300, ext. 56000, or 1-800-362-9567, ext. 56000.

Terry Rindfleisch can be reached at trindfleisch@lacrossetribune.com or (608) 791-8227.
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and-- wrote on Jul 24, 2007 12:23 PM:

" Now it is okay if a judge says "end life" but it wasn't when a patient chose it with Jack Kevorkian? Oxymoron, don't you think? "

MB wrote on Jul 24, 2007 9:28 AM:

" I guess if we all learn one thing from this article...it is the importance of discussing your wishes and/or taking the time to fill out an Advance Directive or living will. Doing this simple step will save your family from having to involve the government. "

To all the obvious non-healthcare workers wrote on Jul 18, 2007 12:44 PM:

" Perhaps some people are under the impression that demenitia is just a happy confusion like being high. I recommend everyone get in some volunteer time in a skilled nursing facility and witness some of the suffering for yourself if you have not had to experience it in your own family. It is all very ugly and we do what we can to make it better. Pain level is now considered a vital sign and managed with the same intensity as would a fever, blood pressure, or oxygen saturation. The majority of people often go for days without eating before they die, only the lucky ones eat a steak for dinner and slip away in their sleep. Pleas realize that the process of dying is not as romantic as it appears on tv. People do not simply close their eyes and take their last breath. "

To:6:36pm wrote on Jul 18, 2007 10:54 AM:

" You and others with similar posts are simply not paying attention. Not eating because of loss of appetite due to illness is a far cry from death by starvation. Disconnecting the feeding tube would not discontinue the pain. It would increase the pain. Go online or pick up a book and read what happens to a persons body when they starve to death, and the pain involved. Then come back here and talk about dying with dignity. Let me stress-I am not against a person dying with dignity, and do not feel a person should be kept alive at all costs. I am just saying, there are quicker more painless ways than starvation. "

Discontinue the Pain; wrote on Jul 17, 2007 6:36 PM:

" i think it should be up to the family of this woman. being sedated the woman can not make decisions on her own. either way you look at it this woman is suffering; sedated or not. and honestly it's up to no one to say what should happen here. this woman cannot make these choices due to here constant pain and suffering there for the sedation, who else could be appointed to make these decisions. family is the closest thing. and if this woman was concious don't you think she's want to be in peace. i don't care what any one says, this woman should not suffer in pain!! and its up to the courts to decide now. just remember if this was you wouldn't you want to be put out of your suffering?? "

LMH wrote on Jul 17, 2007 1:12 PM:

" Pull out the feeding tube and continue the pain relief. Free at Last, Free at Last!!! "

EU wrote on Jul 16, 2007 6:35 PM:

" This woman previously made a choice not to eat, disconnecting a feeding tube is then not the family choosing for her to starve to death. Many people choose not to eat due to disease and illnesses that cause them to lose their appetite. At the end of life a person is not suffering and in pain if they are given medication to make their exit peaceful and pain free. If this was my mother I would want her to have peace also and let her go on her own time and will, and not extend her suffering and lack of dignity. I want to say again that removing a feeding tube is not causing pain and starvation, rather letting nature take it's course. "

sad sad sad wrote on Jul 16, 2007 6:23 PM:

" I believe that there are alot of people ready to judge others without knowing the facts. You are quick to judge after reading one article and have no idea what the family or MRN has actually gone through. Why not take the time to find out the real situation before judging and posting hurtful comments. Euthanization....Starving to death? Do you actually think that this woman's family would want to do that? Could there be more to it than what you read? Who decides what a vegetative state is? I cannot say more, but I will ask that all of you that are so quick to judge to stop and think about the other things that could be going on, you may only know a part of the story....I pray that nothing like this ever effects you or your loved ones. "

To:11:47am wrote on Jul 16, 2007 2:54 PM:

" Feeding tubes are not heroic or extraordinary. They are simply the only way some people are able to receive nourishment. Disconnecting them is sentencing them to death by starvation. Starvation is one of the most painful ways to die. No one should have the right to starve someone else to death like this-family or no family. Disconnecting a feeding tube is in no way humane or kind-it is quite the opposite. Whatever discomfort the person may have been feeling before is magnified. "

The issue wrote on Jul 16, 2007 11:47 AM:

" As I see it the issue is the law. As stated in the article Wisconsin doesnt allow a guardian to make these kinds of decisions - unless the patient is in a persistent vegitative state. The law should be changed to reflect reality. We have laws to protect people but in some circumstances the law is a problem and not a solution. As for Tragic/Not Terminal, feeding tubes ARE extraordinary care - if the patient cant feed themselves and would die otherwise. We might disagree about withdrawing that support but the decision is hers or her guardians (acting for her when she cant)- not ours or Congress (as in Terry Schiavo). "

sue wrote on Jul 16, 2007 11:34 AM:

" It's time for the gov't to change the laws!! period "

To:2:02pm wrote on Jul 16, 2007 11:16 AM:

" Do I understand your post correctly? Do you believe someones family should have the right to starve them to death? "

The real story wrote on Jul 15, 2007 11:11 PM:

" If the woman had been able to afford her medicine, we wouldn't be discussing this...period. "

I cannot wrote on Jul 15, 2007 7:21 PM:

" imagine anything that is less mine or anyone else's business.Goverment should not be involved in this.I feel for the family,let them do the last favor for their loved one. As others have posted here, we wouldn't let the family pet suffer like this. This is a great example of the best thing a Goverment can do most of the time is to say none of our business. "

So this is a "quality of life" issue wrote on Jul 15, 2007 7:16 PM:

" Then as a taxpayer, I demand ALL individuals receiving government benefits for disabilities like this be immediately terminated as well, just think of ALL the money we'll save and the suffering we'll end. There was a story in the Holmen paper the other day about children on some waiting list. These children are PRIME candidates for your so-called "euthanization" "

To: 1:05pm wrote on Jul 15, 2007 2:02 PM:

" It's not up to you or anyone else to decide if this woman's life is worthless. It is up to HER. "We" are not going to starve her to death. "We" are not going to do anything. It's not up to us. SHE AND HER FAMILY are to decide if she is to remain in the hospital. If she wants to die, then who are we to intervene? It is HER life. We all need to mind our own business. "

Tragic but not terminal wrote on Jul 15, 2007 1:05 PM:

" It is certainly a tragic situation, but the woman is not suffering from any terminal illness. She has dementia, and doesn't want to eat as a result. Are we now going to starve her to death? Is the treatment of choice for the mentally ill? A feeding tube is not extraordinary care, nor is insulin. We do not allow prisoners or others to intentionally starve themselves to death (or anorexic girls for that matter). Why suddenly, because this woman has a mental illness, does her life become worthless? "

Hey everyone... wrote on Jul 15, 2007 11:02 AM:

" All these comments about "let her die in peace", yet there is no law to allow for it. I didn't know that a judge has the authority to allow someone to be euthanized. The law needs to be changed - pure and simple. Watch all the clamor from the Right To Life groups if a bill is proposed to allow for it. Even the Bush administration will be weighing in on the issue. Like it or not, you do not have final control over your own body. And right now there is no tendency to be moving in that direction. "

Common sense wrote on Jul 15, 2007 10:14 AM:

" It seems to me that there are two issues involved here. Number one, common sense tells me that the woman should be able to die in peace and that, advance directive or not, her actions tell us that she does not want to be kept alive suffering in this manner. The second issue is that the next time we think about health care costs in this country, think about the millions of dollars being spent every day to care for people who are not being allowed to die, while at the same time, the health care system does not have the funds to care for some people who dearly want to have health care that will let them live. Does that make any sense? "

Eddie wrote on Jul 15, 2007 10:14 AM:

" Wills and advanced directives wouldn't be necessary if hospital bureaucrats (and their lawyers) would show genuine respect for people. If a patient and/or her family wants to end treatment (for whatever reason) and leave the hospital, then the hospital's duty is clear - end the treatment. Instead, we have bureaucrats and lawyers dictating how people are to live (or end) their lives. It's yet another example of Those in Power being terrified of losing that power. "

Sad situation... wrote on Jul 15, 2007 9:30 AM:

" So sad for all concerned...the patient, the family, the doctors. Sometimes laws prevent us all from doing the right thing. Maybe a change in the law will be something positive that could come out of this sad situation. Also--the best form of an advance directive is not a living will--it's a Power of Attorney for Healthcare. It can change as the situation changes. Discuss these issues with your family. "

Advanced Directive wrote on Jul 15, 2007 9:08 AM:

" Had this gal filled out an Advanced Directive, which is free, or a Will . . . it would not be happening. Let's learn from this as we should have from the Terri Shaivo case. So sorry for her and the family. "

be prepared wrote on Jul 15, 2007 8:50 AM:

" Having Advance Directives in a living will is a responsibility all parents should have when they are healthy. Don't leave your children to agonize over these kind of decisions. All soldiers going to war should have advance directives too, to assure they don't live for years and years not being able to take care of themselves. It would be great if there was more publicity about the living will. "

Poor woman wrote on Jul 15, 2007 8:33 AM:

" We treat our animals better than this. When they're suffering, we euthanize them. I wouldn't want to live like this woman. She isn't even living, she's suffering. I think the ethical thing to do would be let her go. "

Darwin wrote on Jul 15, 2007 8:25 AM:

" Please end this woman's suffering. She deserves peace. "

so much for advances in medicine wrote on Jul 15, 2007 8:14 AM:

" It might be a hard decision to make, but no person should be able to make the decision to end hope "

JP wrote on Jul 15, 2007 8:10 AM:

" That is why you need to have a WILL. Why can't people see the importance of this. My WILL tells everyone how you want things done. Mine is DNR no FEEDING TUBE no MACHINES. My husband also has all rights when I am in that state. I sure hope this family gets what this woman wants and needs. "

god bless her wrote on Jul 15, 2007 7:04 AM:

" there is nothing here to think about, let this poor woman go with dignity. I find it sickening that the courts get to make this decision and not her family. you can bet she will lie this way a long time yet! "

Enough wrote on Jul 15, 2007 3:14 AM:

" Let her go - she wants to go and with her families blessing - she needs to be at peace. "

Let her die in peace wrote on Jul 15, 2007 3:02 AM:

" Why are they still going on for 7 years! Let this women have some dignity! "


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