Beverly wrote on Jul 23, 2007 11:45 AM:
" God bless you, "little no-longer missing" gnome; please come back to your garden when you're feeling better. "
Perry Mason with some closure wrote on Jul 23, 2007 9:49 AM:
" I don't believe I'm breaching the attorney/client privacy dictim, but the little garden gnome is resting comfortably in a Toronto hospital after open heart surgery, which he could not obtain here. He has access to the internet and would like to hear from folks, especially Krusty. "
You can expect a few legal cases in our future in Lacrosse! wrote on Jul 22, 2007 1:29 PM:
" The UWL stadium namechange, access to the Centers books and P&L sheets, Tri-State 8:00 secret 'mediation'?, and a few others that you will here of at a later time. We will also here that they will be scurtinized about legal and correct 'Parlimentary Procedure' in the future. -Nestor "
The gnome ran off wrote on Jul 21, 2007 10:54 PM:
" with the lady that bends over and you can see all her underwear. It was just too much for him to resist. "
Retroboy wrote on Jul 21, 2007 3:12 PM:
" OK, Bugs. You stop posting about the gnome, I will have to take it from there. There IS a gnome missing. It MUST be found. "
What's good for the goose wrote on Jul 21, 2007 7:01 AM:
" That is right, and that set a precedent. If the government was willing/able to give this type of data to Postal Soft, then they MUST do it for the rest of us. Tape was the standard medium back then, just like CD is now, so I want the list as well, because I can sell it too. "
Product not Information wrote on Jul 20, 2007 6:00 PM:
" WIREdata is not looking for the assessed value of the property on Fifth and Main. They don't care. They could go to the assessor's office and ask. What they want is a free Product to sell. That Product is a database. The government has no obligation to hand over a Product.
This is exactly how PostalSoft/First Logic started. The founder received free postal addresses from the USPS (on main frame tapes) intended to be used by businesses for address verification. He then went over to UW-L and convinced them to translate the data on the tapes to floppies (for free). Voila! Now he starts selling postal addresses on floppies, then on CDs. Publicly funded data development and data entry; Commercial profit. More junkmail for the rest of us. "
Bugs to Krusty wrote on Jul 20, 2007 1:49 PM:
" OK, but I wouldn't do it for anyone else but you. "
Patriot with the solution wrote on Jul 20, 2007 1:14 PM:
" Public records must be made available to the public. They must be made available through electronic means. Paper and charging for sheets is not right. What should be done though, is to require any company/contractor to develop FOR the government, not maintain the rights. Government at as many levels as possible should join in hiring a database system developer and the resulting product would then become the property of the entity hiring the work (the government). In any event, any member of the public should be given free access to QUERY the database, but the entire contents of the data (or large portions) shouldn't be handed over en mass to commercial interests. "
Krusty wrote on Jul 20, 2007 12:37 PM:
" Bugs, please stop with the "Gnome" posts. It's really annoying, and not in the least bit humorous. "
Doesn't anybody care? wrote on Jul 20, 2007 9:45 AM:
" There's a garden gnome missing; can't Mial write something about that? Bring us together, Dick. "
Computer guy wrote on Jul 20, 2007 8:32 AM:
" I've been in the computer industry now for over 20 years. I've seen many changes in that time. I agree somewhat with the [3:01 AM] poster, that the data IS public, but not the database. However, providing it on paper, in an age when paperless is the norm simply kills too many trees. The company could/should extract the data to a spreadsheet. That would afford the same protection of the database/software but provide the data in electronic format. The company could charge $$$ for the employees time to create the spreadsheet and that would be that. "
To 3:01 am post wrote on Jul 20, 2007 7:12 AM:
" Couldn't have said it better my self! "
Unintended Consequences wrote on Jul 20, 2007 3:01 AM:
" Unfortunately the Tribune has an obvious conflict of interest regarding Freedom of Information and Open Records.
Worse, journalists are not qualified to understand the enormous power of databases to provide complex cross-referencing of data. The impact of large scale data collection to private citizens' lives has yet to be fully realized. Identity theft is just the tip of the iceberg.
Though the Op-ed fails to make it clear, WIREdata surely wants the information in electronic form. This allows them to exploit publicly funded database development and data entry for commercial gain. If the information must be provided, print it out on paper and charge per sheet. This protects the database trade secrets and forces WIREdata to expend its own resources for database development and data entry. They have no intrinsic right to electronic data. I bet they'd lose interest in a hurry. "