PicklesPlease wrote on Sep 20, 2007 4:05 PM:
" isn't it funny that we are using this stadium to "bring money to the community" aka business owners--when THEY are not even the ones paying for the stadium...us little people (taxpayers) are...hmmmmmm "
PicklesPlease wrote on Sep 20, 2007 3:44 PM:
" what's that? the sound of a recession? you don't say! "
Thorn wrote on Sep 20, 2007 3:18 PM:
" TO: JPD: Who is "Many"?. Where is the data? Gosh I guess I'll just believe you cause you day so! Show me the data that BEYOND doubt proves UWL is 2nd only to UW-Madison. Expect me to believe whatever you say with out data to support!? NOT! "
North Sider wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:18 PM:
" This time the 'track'. Believe me, parking will be the next 'surprise'? How predictable. Shilling?, she should be busy still clearing up the post retirement health coverage covert funding mess that she is going to receive. Or maybe better we should be loking for money for the 17 WI Tech campsues that are terribly unfunded for employee benefits. Remember? Milwaukee campus alone, for one benefits, $228 million? Keep spending it, yeah, it will go away. "
North Sider wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:12 PM:
" Sorry, that would be $17k per year. "
North Sider wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:12 PM:
" TO: PicklesPlease- Funny you should mention home. Brings up that the illustrious Chancellor gets a n almost covert, little known additional $17 per year on top of his already generous pay/benefits, and the have opted to call it a 'housing allowance'. Then they wonder why they have no money? They know, they know all right. Self anointed pseudo intellectual elitists swimming in a very small bowl. "
PicklesPlease wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:03 PM:
" it's not the taxpayers' job to fund a stadium for the booming University of Wisconsin business...that reminds me, if I build a University (and collect state funding to boot) can I decide to build myself a home and have all the taxpayers fund THAT? That's like Bill Gates asking taxpayers to fund the installation of an outdoor olympic pool for all his friends to come over and party..which by the way would also bring business to the communtiy... "
The Real World wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:58 PM:
" To; Momof3
I am optimistic that we will continue on, in this great country but Your description of the stadium is perfect. The reason I said what I did is, we are moving in the direction of the entire infrastructure looking like you describe, if we don't start spending money to pay our debt in Wisconsin and the entire country. "
North Sider wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:31 PM:
" TO: Terminus- Possibly you could explain why UWL should have paid to pay/benefit and supply a virtual 'Czar of Festivities' for the Lacrosse area for too many years now. Then maybe you could reflect what his last job was, why he lost that job, and why Judith manufactured his present position and responsibilities. Then you wonder why some have problems with the way the UW System spends money? Come on! Let's communicate, chat, and have an open discussion. When we are done discussing this I will supply you with another scenario. Waiting patiently. "
jpb wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:01 PM:
" To Thorn:
Many consider UW-L just a notch below Madison on the educational scale. The admissions to UW-L have become remarkably competitive in the last few years. It is much easier to get into Stout or Eau Claire than UW-L. This stadium can only help foster a top-level academic atmosphere.
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Thorn wrote on Sep 20, 2007 11:18 AM:
" TO: TERMINUS
I think in particular UW Stout, and UW Oshkosh would disagree with you; where do you get the "second best to Madison" stats? Second best based on WHAT!? "
Terminus wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:20 AM:
" UW-LaCrosse is the 2nd best college in Wisconsin right behind UW. Take this jewel that you have worked hard to create and promote it to help the city. Build the stadium not matter the cost, the returns will be ten fold. Jobs, money spent at local restaurants, parking fees ect all are money makers for the city. "
North Sider wrote on Sep 20, 2007 9:06 AM:
" Of course it is going to run more. The government is running this. Then remember, during the public hearing for parking for this albatross they had many ideas for the additional need for parking. Almost all unfunded! Feeling your 'economic stimulus' yet? "
Momof3 wrote on Sep 20, 2007 8:13 AM:
" Walk down and take a look at the old stadium. It doesn't have much life left. The concrete is crumbling off. There are rats in the storage areas and it leaks underneath. The restrooms are old and horrific.
Track surfacing only lasts so many years, and would be replaced whether the stadium is redone or not.
The facility gets a huge amount of use. HS teams use it for games. HS and MS teams practice on the track. Special Olympics practices there. Many, many other groups use it, and it's open for use by the public in off hours. Do a little research before you decide it's underused. The renovation will allow for soccer inside the stadium, and the ability to host many sorts of other events. "
mack wrote on Sep 20, 2007 8:00 AM:
" This is ridiculous for an occasional use, under-employed facility. A good example of how emotional we get over sports. "
The Real World wrote on Sep 20, 2007 7:31 AM:
" A few people have this desire to have bigger better and shinny new facility, but why should the taxpayers have to pay to replace a usable functional facility? "