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Published - Friday, September 28, 2007

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DNR: Too many deer in Hixon Forest


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Ron Lichtie doesn’t need to conduct a head count to know the deer population around Hixon Forest is well above what the area can support. The high browsing lines, shrinking plant diversity, and high number of deer versus car collisions are clear signs, said the wildlife biologist with the Department of Natural Resources.

Unchecked, the overabundance of deer will only worsen, he said, putting people, the ecosystem and deer themselves at risk.
Lichtie has presented that assessment, along with data from a 2007 aerial survey of the forest, to the La Crosse Board of Parks Commissioners.

“I truly believe that we have maybe a decade to get the deer population under control before we will be suffering ecological damage that may not be repaired,” he said in an interview Thursday.

The board now will form a committee to consider control methods, lethal and non-lethal.

“It will be very controversial,” said commission member Dorothy Lenard said. “We realize that.”

Wisconsin has an estimated 1.6 million to 1.8 million deer, of which about 500,000 are taken through hunting each year.

It’s not a new problem, or a unique one, said Lichtie. But he’s been called a “bloodthirsty killer” when he’s raised the issue of control in the past.

“I didn’t get into this profession because I hate deer,” he said. “Some people just don’t want to look at the science that’s out there.”

Hixon Forest should have 10 deer per square mile that winter there, Lichtie said. But an estimated 84 to 118 deer per square mile can be found in one section of the forest, according to the report.

Sooner rather than later, the community has to determine what level is acceptable, he said.

Birth control is not permitted in the state because it carries the risk of unintentionally passing the drug on to other wildlife, he said.

Wisconsin also prohibits relocating deer to avoid potentially introducing health problems, such as chronic wasting disease, into other areas.

Lethal control measures could include regular season hunting, special hunts, sharpshooters and trapping and euthanizing the deer.

In 2006, La Crosse County authorized a managed hunt with disabled hunters on Goose Island.

“Everyone’s just afraid to go that direction,” Lenard said. “Nobody wants to kill animals, but they’re actually destroying Hixon Forest, and we don’t want to lose that, either.”

A 2004 ecological inventory of the 800-acre forest found some of the most common plant species absent from some areas.

Forest experts estimated up to 60 plant species already may have been lost to deer browsing, Lichtie said.

Without intervention, the forest will continue to degenerate and biodiversity will suffer, he said, adding it can take decades for the forest to naturally regenerate.

The deer can become susceptible to starvation or disease and the population could collapse altogether, Lichtie said. “We have a responsibility to do something about that,” he said.

Samantha Marcus can be reached at (608) 791-8220 or smarcus@lacrossetribune.com.
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the non-hater wrote on Oct 1, 2007 8:57 AM:

" Wow Krusty. I can't believe there are people like you out there who feel the need to bash people on La Crosse Tribune article blogs to make up for their short-comings. I'm actually the intern working to help implement the new City/County resolutions to become an eco-municipality here. I'm sure that just makes you feel even better knowing your city is trying to go "green." I'm also pretty sure that the color of my hair and the fact that I am a woman doesn't equate to me sleeping with professors to get through life. This is the last response, because, let's face it...you aren't worth anyone's time. "

R A wrote on Sep 29, 2007 2:44 PM:

" Seeing that they are tame, they are pets and it is illigal to kill a pet! Try Birth Control Please!!8 "

2Hoots wrote on Sep 29, 2007 2:23 AM:

" Not all of La Crosse County is shotgun only. Area 59M, or the metro area, is shotgun only all season. 59D is now allows rifles all season. "

Mac wrote on Sep 28, 2007 11:30 PM:

" The range of the guns? I haven't hunted there in years, but isn't La Crosse County shotgun only? "

2Hoots wrote on Sep 28, 2007 8:55 PM:

" For now, there is browse and forage for the deer to eat. Deer numbers go up, food supplies decrease, deer starve. Deer numbers go down and Hixon forest is a barren wasteland once again. Allow hunters to shoot deer and either donate the venison to a food pantry or take it home themselves. If a deer is shot and ends up in someones yard, it will still get eaten by someone. If a starving deer ends up in a yard, the end result is a landfill - no one wins. When deer populations overrun the available food sources and begin to starve, our tree-huggers will plead with the city to start feeding them to prevent starvation. Thin out the herd and make everyone happy. "

Krusty wrote on Sep 28, 2007 6:23 PM:

" Non-hater,you have a degree in Conservation Biology and you are a blonde? Well...Isn't that just precious. I guess it goes to show that anybody can achieve their dream no matter how handicapped if they work for it. How many classes did you have to "stay late and help the professor" to pass? You said you have a degree, but you didn't say you are working...Couldn't handle the job scene eh? Let me guess, you are now a "stay at home mom"? "

Common Sense wrote on Sep 28, 2007 6:02 PM:

" To non-hater: yeah right, bring on the wolves so nobody will dare to let their pets or kids out in the back yard. That's brilliant! Oh gee, I let little Johnny out to play in the back yard because non-hater said wolves never attack people, and now he's wolfpoop. Kay has the right idea, harvest the deer and contribute the meat to the food pantry. "

tax-me-more wrote on Sep 28, 2007 5:30 PM:

" I'm all for an archery hunt, heck I'd even hunt myself as long as include EVERY ONE, not just certain individuals. I'm just saying that this can't be rushed into; we should be acting on it NOW so we have everything in place for next fall. "

tax-me-more wrote on Sep 28, 2007 5:29 PM:

" [1]. I'm well aware of the law. [-----] [2]. You hit the nail on the head. If we allow bow hunting, which I think would be GREAT, but the neighboring landowners should be brought in on this NOW so they aren't surprised later on. Everyone needs to be on the same page just in case a deer does end up in someone's back yard. [-----] What if nobody claims the animal because they lost the trail or something? Now you'll have a bunch of PO residents with carcasses in their back yard. Who will come and remove the carcass? These things all need to be worked out and agreed upon or this will turn into a nightmare and give the anti hunting community more reason to push for NO HUNTING at all. "

Marat wrote on Sep 28, 2007 4:22 PM:

" Non-hater: In a study done by the University of Harvard, researchers proved that American blonde women are on average 20 points lower in IQ than their brunette, redhead, etc, counterparts. It was published in the New England Medical Journal in 2005 I believe. I guess that proves that Krusty was right, blondes are dumb as stumps! However, blonde women, in my opinion, tend to be more attractive...What are you doing this weekend? "

the non-hater wrote on Sep 28, 2007 3:54 PM:

" Krusty-PS-don't give the character such a bad rap. I think the Simpson's character might actually be more interested in this stuff. "

shkyhnds wrote on Sep 28, 2007 3:53 PM:

" tax-me-more, the law states this: if an animal you have shot runs on private property you are to ask the landowner permission to retrieve the animal. Now if a deer that someone shot ran in someone's yard they better let you retrieve that animal, or they are going to be dealing with the stench of a decomposing animal! "

the non-hater wrote on Sep 28, 2007 3:50 PM:

" Krusty- I'll just go ahead and say it. I'm a non-hater, except for people like you who are so close-minded that nothing else matters. Get a life other than commenting on La Crosse Tribune articles! I'm blonde. Want to pick a fight with me??! I have a degree in Conservation Biology, fairly well versed in the subject. Wanna have at it, know-it-all?? Grow up and get a life. "

shkyhnds wrote on Sep 28, 2007 3:50 PM:

" BoBo....What are you talking about? The DNR wants these deer harvested to conserve the natural resources! And those increases in licenses tha you talk about, part of that money goes to purchasing areas for public to use! I don't mind paying for the increases! Now if land costs and property taxes weren't increasing the licenses fees wouldn't increase either! WAKE UP!!!!!!! "

shkyhnds wrote on Sep 28, 2007 3:45 PM:

" I'll tell you what we do. Open Hixon forrest up to bow hunters 3 weeks out of the year. Most likely would have to be the end of October to mid November. Which so happens is the Rut, the most active time for whiletails. Make it an EAB, earn -a- buck. Just 3 weeks. Take the harvested venison and donate it to the food pantries! Give the food to a worthy cause! This type of hunting has just as high rate of mortality, if not higher, than gun hunting, but without the range that of guns. And as to the people who don't want these animals harvested........you are going to see a very cruel way for the deer to die, and the forrest to die if nothing is done! "

the non-hater wrote on Sep 28, 2007 2:07 PM:

" GARVI-healthy means the wolf was not diseased, had rabies, etc. Wolves have attacked dogs, yes. But with people in tow? Probably not. They are generally afraid of people. A dog left alone in a yard would be a possible prey target. Humans need to realize that we took away the most important native predator, the wolf, and that hunting, though good, cannot be the entire solution. Read Aldo Leopold's "A Sand County Almanac." He saw the devistation of too many deer when wolves were exterminated from Arizona and New Mexico 60 years ago. It's hard for humans to fix our own mistakes, let alone make them perfect. "

Krusty wrote on Sep 28, 2007 2:06 PM:

" It's always amusing when someone as dumb as a stump like "pickles" says we need more intelligent people. Don't you mean you want more blonde types such as yourself, "pickles"? "

PicklesPlease wrote on Sep 28, 2007 1:34 PM:

" kay, sarcasm is the key word...tax me more was making a point--task forces are worthless and wasteful. For drunks or deer it makes no difference. What we need is more intelligent people in the world, beginning with our president, but that's another story... "

PicklesPlease wrote on Sep 28, 2007 1:30 PM:

" Here's a solution= the DNR needs something to do right? SO how about they go around spaying and neutering all the deer in the park? Bob Barker would be so proud. "

GARVI wrote on Sep 28, 2007 11:28 AM:

" To the non hater, The key word in your statement is healthy, not only that but what about the person that walks their dog and the dog gets it, which is what wolves do. But then again everyone with a pit bull can walk their dogs there anytime, that should take care of that problem. "

Kay wrote on Sep 28, 2007 10:46 AM:

" Tax-me-more -- If we introduce a "task force" for this problem you can expect the deer population to quadruple in size before anything actually gets done. "

the non-hater wrote on Sep 28, 2007 10:45 AM:

" Simple solution: re-introduce wolves. Let nature do what it was originally supposed to do around here. FYI-only one healthy wolf has EVER attacked a human in the United States in the last 150 years. "

tax-me-more wrote on Sep 28, 2007 9:25 AM:

" Kay: The answer is YES we must. You say, "Just shoot them," with what? Firearms have to long a range to use so close to residential areas. You will also have the issue with a bow hunt that the animal may run for several hundred yards before it dies. How does a hunter recover the deer if it should go onto private property? There is a LOT to be considered here, let's form a "task force." "

tax-me-more wrote on Sep 28, 2007 9:20 AM:

" I'm all for a Bow Hunt as long as it is open to ALL individuals, not just the "disadvantaged." If they do decide on a Bow Hunt, then EVERY HUNTER had better be able to: 1. Produce his/her bow hunter safety card. 2. Pass an archery proficiency test prior to being granted a permit. "

Kay wrote on Sep 28, 2007 9:16 AM:

" Good lord, just shoot them already and donate the meat to a local food pantry. Problem solved. Must we make such a big publicity deal out of it? "

DJ: wrote on Sep 28, 2007 9:04 AM:

" I can see the headlines now. "Rambo meets Bambi in Hixton Forest". "

002 wrote on Sep 28, 2007 8:05 AM:

" To Everyone: Bobo obviously has CWD disease himself. Bobo, lay off the prozac "

002 wrote on Sep 28, 2007 8:04 AM:

" I think Ron is right, the deer are everywhere. I would suggest a bow hunt since there are housing, walking trails, etc...no need for guns. Of course, the deer are so tame, you could just run them over with golf carts or hit them with a 5-iron. "

Nikki Beaverhausen wrote on Sep 28, 2007 7:44 AM:

" What ever happened to the CWD that was killing all the deer? HOW did they ever flourish? "

Marat wrote on Sep 28, 2007 7:10 AM:

" Since these deer are so tame they will walk up to you, I suggest a "bayonet" only deer hunt. I could hold out a donut and when the deer walks up to take a bite I could stab it in the face. People would flock in from all over the country for a bayonet hunt. "

possom133 wrote on Sep 28, 2007 6:41 AM:

" Since Boo Hoo is such a expert on everything I want to be the first to nominate him for King of the world. "

heavy hitter wrote on Sep 28, 2007 6:39 AM:

" open up the park for a special bow hunting season. this would be a nice, safe way to help control the population. "

tax-me-more wrote on Sep 28, 2007 6:34 AM:

" Yes, the DNR hasn't done a very good job, but these Handicap ONLY hunts they are now touting are discrimination. I would like an explanation from the DNR, USFW, and the La Crosse County Board as to why they SUPPORT this type of discrimination. "

just al wrote on Sep 28, 2007 6:06 AM:

" BoBO, does your mother know you are an idiot? What has caused this problem every where is urban sprawl. Too many people want the house in the woods and get out of LaCrosse, for good reason. Go back towards Bluebird and see the new housing developments being built. The DNR has very little to do with the cause but I do agree they are doing very little to solve it. "

dbl lung wrote on Sep 28, 2007 2:02 AM:

" a bait pile and my 7mm mag would solve some of the problem. "

BoBo wrote on Sep 28, 2007 12:52 AM:

" Triple the cost of licenses and see how many more will run out and hunt. This will only get better when the DNR gets their nose out of managing anything. Their incompetence is what has caused this to begin with. Too many fat cats looking to get rich while sitting behind their desks once again. DNR needs to go! "


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