thirdeyeblind wrote on Oct 14, 2007 7:31 PM:
" I agree with open records; however, all too often those who have been in court or jail cannot get a job because if this website. Those men and women are doomed to a life of unemployment because nobody hires those who have been in trouble. No matter how long ago. Plus, this site is far from real time and not everyone is posted. Some counties choose who gets posted and who does not. The site should be restricted at least so those who want to move forward with their lives, can do just that. Thanks for 'listening'. "
Richard Cranium wrote on Oct 11, 2007 7:04 AM:
" To spengler:I hear your comments and agree for the most part. However, just so you know, this didn't degenerate into people turning this into a playground... Some things were being said on here that were/are personal attacks and bordered on slander (contrary to what Krusty said) which is criminal. Comments were made to me from Krusty (that were removed) that were offensive and inappropriate. Some people should have been taught as children that life has rules and you should play fair. Obviously, that wasn't the case here. That being said, when you break rules you need to be called on it. This should be the end of it. "
spengler wrote on Oct 10, 2007 10:54 PM:
" wow--
the tribune should be ashamed of itself for letting you folks turn this comment blog into a playground for 12 year olds ["he started it"]
krusty - you should be banned for 60 days
Kamkik - i'm empathetic, but don't argue with an idiot - it's too hard to tell you apart - find a new venue for personal concerns
there's always going to be people who abuse the system with their lack of real awareness [yes, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing] but the more information we have available the greater freedom we actually have - and no one ever closes that door just a little... it's always a first step in the application of power... "
Richard Cranium wrote on Oct 10, 2007 6:52 AM:
" I see you got up early enough to see if you could still post... At least they pulled your disrespectful negative post from earlier. Hopefully they are going to be watching you now. "
Krusty wrote on Oct 10, 2007 6:48 AM:
" Settle down daryll...I haven't gone anywhere. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 9, 2007 10:19 PM:
" The lose of Krusty would only return this blog to normal. Maybe we could get back to discussing issues and not turn this into personal attacks. Good bye Krusty! Your demise was long overdue...just like on the Simpsons. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 9, 2007 10:14 PM:
" One more to EarlKrusty: Even without anger management, you fear me because I speak the truth without fear. You hiding behind your being a clown proves you are one. The biggest compliment I received recently was from Joe Heim, a political anaylist and professor in political sciences at UW-L. He has been monitoring certain writings and found mine to be of MODERATE thought, not liberal as many of those conservatives on these blogs try to make me. I believe there is a time for gradual change in many cases. I am not afraid of pushing the envelope to reach needed change like fixing health insurance and unemployment compensation. Or making groups like Historical Preservationists pay for their designations against property owners. I provoke conservatives from their comfort zones. Rush Limbaugh fears me needing his cigars and pills to calm his nerves and reduce his pain. "
Richard Cranium wrote on Oct 9, 2007 10:09 PM:
" To Krusty and kamikazefaase: Well, I did take your advice and filed an official complaint. I guess we'll see what happens and how it works out for me... "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 9, 2007 9:45 PM:
" Hey EarlKrusty: Do you ever work? If you really owned a business, you wouldn't have the time to spend blogging while your business needs your attention to growing it. I wasn't required to attend anger management sessions because my actions were not out of anger. Without a court order, we used family counciling to improve communications especially with the troubled teen. We were proactive in our spproach in handling the matter. While members of the social services tried to convince the troubled teen that it wasn't her fault, we made absolutely sure she knew what she did wrong and punished her accordingly. Lying won't be tolerated when it comes to actions leading to police in our house. I made sure she paid for my paying the fine and legal fees by denying her privileges that cost money like going to movies and roller skating. CASE CLOSED! "
Richard Cranium wrote on Oct 9, 2007 8:48 PM:
" Hey Krusty: I'm starting to see who the real clown is here and it isn't kamikazefaase. I agree with everything he says and if I so much as see you calling me or anyone else on here a name again I'll be reporting it and I'm hoping that will be the end of you on here. And if his name really is darryl, that's the first time I have ever seen it spelled that way. Better be careful, you might be opening yourself up to slander. "
Krusty wrote on Oct 9, 2007 4:02 PM:
" Whoa Darryl! Settle down...I see now why you had to go to anger management class. I won't bring it up again if you don't hit me, ok? "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 9, 2007 1:37 PM:
" Hey EarlKrusty: You were not there. You were not in court to know what happened, were you?! If I would had the money at the time, the teenager would have been required to testify and be crossed examined. Her story would have been refuted by her older sister who was an eyewitness to the whole thing. She was the victim of this teenager's tirade. Again your lack of knowledge escapes me in how you can even judge accurately off a CCAP. This is why CCAP should be closed to the general public and a court order should be obtained to prevent slamming someones character even in blogs like this. Meanwhile, I am advocating measures that will prevent parents from going through this kind of misjustice, yet prevent real child abuse. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 9, 2007 1:16 PM:
" EarlKrusty: You still don't know what you are talking about. Since when does a child have the right to mouth off, swear, be extremely loud where neighbors could hear her, and after being warned not once but three times to cease the behavior get disciplined? Furthermore, there was no blood, broken bone or a bruise. It was a case of teenager being upset that she went too far and was slapped once and her friends convincing the teenager that she did nothing wrong, and the school fell for her version of the story and therefore had to report the incident. If there was no mandatory arrest law, the police would have left the matter alone because the evidence was lacking. And how would know anything about anger management unless you need it yourself. "
water wrote on Oct 9, 2007 1:13 PM:
" Open court records are good, but these are not in the spirit of the whole truth anyway. You won't civil disobedience on CCAP, just disorderly. The length of times are arbitrary, 20 years for something to stay on there. And these decicions were made after 1999, so everything before that ends up on CCAP. Maybe those cases should be grandfathered in, or maybe more people would not have settled with the prosecutor. I could go on and on. Cases that have been settled and reduced should not be on CCAP when they happened before CCAP was implemented. "
Krusty wrote on Oct 9, 2007 11:26 AM:
" Daryll, punishing a child shouldn't be done for revenge, and it definately shouldn't draw blood. How did the anger management course go daryll? Have you figured out why I have a "beef" yet, Mr. Head? "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 9, 2007 11:06 AM:
" BTW EarlKrusty: Don't you ever lay a hand on your kids when punishing them. We will see if they listen to you after a while because you are nothing but a lot of hot air. I know I am not scared of you. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 9, 2007 10:59 AM:
" To Richard C.: Don't worry about Krusty...He's the real "Dick" on this blog and everyone knows that. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 9, 2007 10:57 AM:
" Hey EarlKrusty: There is a lot of things you lack understanding. And the blog is definitely not the place to discuss something like everyone's court records. Because you have no idea what happened in anyone's case, your comments lack merit. If you are going to make an accusation, present yourself out in the open for everyone to see. No hiding behind your "Krusty" identity. I need not address you otherwise. Your stupidity seems apparent. BTW have another drink so you can get closer to "soiling yourself". "
Richard Cranium wrote on Oct 9, 2007 7:08 AM:
" Krusty: My name is Richard and what exactly are you accusing kamikazefaase of? I think were getting closer to an answer regarding your comments. "
reality wrote on Oct 8, 2007 10:59 PM:
" Here is something to consider for everyone: When I was a poor 19 year old college student, I went fishing with friends while back in town. I didn't have a fishing license, and couldn't afford one. Needless to say, I got a 'fishing without a license' ticket. I was guilty. For many years after this, I've been heckled by hundreds of people at random because they searched my name for fun and saw this ticket on my record. They thought it was funny, and tease me. From my perspective, this mass social ridicule is cruel and unusual punishment for something as simple as fishing without a license. I didn't rape anyone, I didn't hurt anyone...and I am still teased to this day. Serious offenses should be on there, but not ones like fishing without a license-I'VE BEEN TARRED AND FEATHERED OVER SOMETHING LITTLE, AND IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! "
Krusty wrote on Oct 8, 2007 10:13 PM:
" Dick: I can't stand anyone who would hurt a child "
Richard Cranium wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:30 PM:
" Hey Krusty: What's your beef with kamikazefaase? "
Krusty wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:24 PM:
" Come on daryll...Why do you continue to try and hide things? You know exactly what I'm talking about. You should pick on someone your own size daryll, and maybe closer to your age... "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 8, 2007 8:36 PM:
" For the record, there is a difference between open court and open records. Not all court related items are open records, especially when it includes minors. If it is open court, anyone can attend. However, if you want a copy of the record you must pay for it. The cost should be high enough to discourage random use or abuse of such record. Divorce records are different than bankruptcy or criminal records. Being divorced isn't used for employment anymore because martial status cannot be used against a prospective employee. Court records should be treated like medical records and require the party being inquired about to grant permission or have a court order showing reason for needing such information. This goes for anyone except the person themselves who is inquiring about their own records. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 8, 2007 7:50 PM:
" Hey EarlKrusty: Why the need to know? I don't have any drunk driving matters and didn't soil myself. No one needs to know what everyone else has done without cause. I firmly believe that one's records aren't open for discussion here. Anyone inquiring should show need for such information whether its employers, news people, lawyers, etc. and they should pay for that information if proper cause is shown. The system only reflects being accused of anything and that's its biggest failure. The general public misuses this website and that should be repaired so that such misuse is more costly both in obtaining and such use. "
blueshawke wrote on Oct 8, 2007 4:02 PM:
" CCAP was invented (not by Al Gore) specifically so that the courts could have rapid access to files and the defendants actual current status without having to house a guy for three days while the snail mail caught up and verified his story that his fines in Walworth county were in fact, paid. It was NEVER EVER EVER intended to be used by John Q. Public and it was never intended to be used for the SOLE PURPOSE of dirt digging under the guise of "character referencing" for jobs, housing, and loans. "
ACE wrote on Oct 8, 2007 11:36 AM:
" I would guess "Krusty", after i see your comments on these blogs you probably started it. I enjoy seeing the goodie two shoe hypocrites getting nailed for something. "
Krusty wrote on Oct 8, 2007 11:02 AM:
" Yes, I left myself wide open on this one...By the way, "kamikazzedaryll" why are you so quiet? Hmmmm...If I looked up the CCAP record on daryll what would I find? Hmmmm..... "
LAX wrote on Oct 8, 2007 10:07 AM:
" To Krusty -- Sure, that's what they all say! We know you... "
askalano wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:53 AM:
" Did dear ol' Marlin do something he's afraid people will find out about? If a person is doing things they shouldn't be, then, too bad. I do, however, feel the site should be more respecting of the innocent ones. I will be writing to my senators about this, not that they really care what we think but in case it does have an impact this time. "
antieverything wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:48 AM:
" I am not sure but I believe this is in violation of the Freedom of Inforamtion act of 1974. I could be all washed up on that but maybe not. That aside,I would call your reps and see this stays open. Its my right to know whose been naughty and whose been nice. "
North Sider wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:00 AM:
" Let's ask ole Marlin what he think that Reps and Senators have made their retirement amount secret. Even one termers. Then ask him about the smarmy post retirement/sick funds that a reporter blew the whistle on? You ikn ow, the one Kapnake stated he would give back after they all got their hand caught inthe cookie jar. "
Krusty wrote on Oct 8, 2007 7:22 AM:
" I am on CCAP. I was assaulted by a guy in a parking ramp downtown. After the police came they automaticly issued "disorderly conduct" tickets to me and my assailant. I went to court and the ticket was dropped, however the the CCAP still mentions "assault" and disorderly conduct, even though charges against me were dropped and never went to court. A person has to read into the CCAP pages to understand what really took place. I'm all for CCAP, but it needs to be refined so it doesn't make the innocent appear guilty "
North Sider wrote on Oct 8, 2007 6:58 AM:
" Look how about we hear from Marlin Schneider on this one. Agree or not. We have heard little on this subject. We hear more from Shilling and 'On To Many Boards" almost every day than the flip side of issues like these. Media? "
ryeguy wrote on Oct 8, 2007 6:38 AM:
" We need to think about the totalitarian state we are on the brink of becoming. The reason we publish who was arrested and who was convicted is to prevent the kind of "disappearing" that happens all over the globe on a daily basis. We need to have open records so we know precisely who was arrested and why, who got sentenced and for what, when they are to be sentenced, where they will serve their time, and when they are to be released. It is not to embarrass but to protect. This bill would have the foxes protecting the chicken house. "
The Real Paladin wrote on Oct 8, 2007 4:41 AM:
" "By Tribune editorial board"
How about publishing this under the name(s) of the authors. I'd like to look you up on the CCAP web site.
I don't have an issue with an open records law. I do think though that if you're going to look me up, then I should be able to see who is looking at me. Employers in particular should be required to register with the CCAP and identify to an applicant when they look them up. "
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