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Published - Tuesday, October 16, 2007

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Assembly rejects Doyle’s budget offer; higher taxes deal-breaker for GOP


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MADISON — An attempt to end the budget impasse that has left Wisconsin as the only state without a new spending plan failed Monday night when the Republican-led Assembly rejected the so-called compromise offered by Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle.

The Democratic-controlled Senate passed the bill earlier Monday on a partisan vote. But opponents in the Assembly said the bill had about $1 billion in new taxes and was unacceptable.
The budget must clear both chambers and be signed by Doyle to become law. Current tax and funding levels continue while the Legislature tries to reach a deal.

The state is in a “fiscal nightmare” and nearing an emergency because the Legislature has failed by not passing a budget, Doyle said in a statement.

Essential services to protect the health and safety of Wisconsin residents will not be able to be paid for, Doyle said, because expenses are rising faster than the state can pay for them under current funding.

Republicans called Doyle’s warnings “Chicken Little” politics meant to scare people into passing his tax increases.

Legislative leaders who had been meeting to reach a compromise on the 107-day late budget had no new talks planned yet for this week.

“Senators, we need to compromise. Wisconsin needs a budget,” said Senate Majority Leader Judy Robson, D-Beloit, before pulling out a reference to a Kenny Rogers song. “You just have to know when to hold ’em and when to fold ’em.”

Sen. Mike Ellis, R-Neenah, said lawmakers still had a way to go to reach a deal that both sides could support.

“This budget is not even close to a compromise,” he said.

Republicans sounded a similar theme in the Assembly, saying they disagreed most strongly with higher cigarette taxes, a new tax on hospitals and a transfer of $175 million from a fund used to pay malpractice claims.

The bill passed the Senate with all 18 Democrats in favor and 14 Republicans against with one absent. By the same vote, the Senate also passed a transportation funding bill, which includes a new tax on oil companies, even though Doyle wanted to keep that issue off the table until later. The Assembly did not take that issue up, making the Senate’s action largely symbolic.

At least three Republicans were needed to switch sides in order for the budget to clear the Assembly. But 51 Republicans voted against it, one voted for it, and two Democrats broke ranks and voted against it.

Robson spokesman Josh Wescott assailed the Assembly’s vote, saying Republicans had decided to prolong “this national embarrassment” of not having a budget.

Assembly Minority Leader Jim Kreuser, D-Kenosha, said it was no surprise that people were calling it a do-nothing Legislature.

“We should be embarrassed we’re here today like this,” Kreuser said during Assembly debate. “Your side should be ashamed to not be able to compromise and work together.”

Lawmakers couldn’t agree on the first budget Doyle introduced in February, so after months of talks the governor proposed another one that includes many of the major ideas he put forth eight months ago.

Rep. Dean Kaufert, R-Neenah, said Doyle knew that because of the tax increase proposals his budget “didn’t have a chance in hell of passing.”

“This budget was set up to fail,” Kaufert said.

The bill includes a $1.25 per-pack cigarette tax increase even though the latest offer from Assembly Speaker Mike Huebsch, R-West Salem, was for a 75-cent cigarette tax rise. He had earlier supported the full increase.

Republicans also have refused to accept a 0.8 percent tax on hospitals designed to generate $285 million more a year in federal money to help pay for treating Medicaid patients.

The GOP opposition continues even though the Wisconsin Hospital Association, which had fiercely fought the tax since Doyle introduced it, said earlier this month it was no longer against the idea.

Also in Doyle’s proposal is a $175 million transfer from a fund used to pay medical malpractice claims, a move the Wisconsin Medical Society said would put the fund at dangerously low levels and may trigger a lawsuit to block it.

Republicans said it was impossible to know everything that was in the 1,625-page document since it wasn’t printed until late Monday morning, just hours before the votes.

Also on Monday, schools were being told by the state Department of Public Instruction how much aid they should expect for the coming year. Because there is no new budget, the amount of aid available to schools is unchanged despite both Republicans and Democrats agreeing to increase it nearly $80 million.

Without the additional money, schools could turn to property tax payers to meet expenses. The estimated impact could be an average of $27 on the owner of a $170,000 home.

Lawmakers have said that once they reach a budget deal, they can alter deadlines and other provisions in state law to ensure that the additional money gets to schools to avoid the tax increase.

There are many other implications of not having a new budget, including keeping thousands of University of Wisconsin students in the dark as to how much aid they will get from the state and delaying implementation of a new sex offender tracking law.
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North Sider wrote on Oct 17, 2007 9:09 PM:

" TO: BlueState- First thing I remember that I agree with you on. You are also correct about the stadiums. My sons Grandpa built the Met and his partners deeded the land and building to the City of Bloomington. That is a way from the past. Now the apathetic taxpayers allow it as they hold us up as hostages as they threaten leaving for greener pastures. It is a terrible direction we are walking toward. It also is very prevalent in our own Lacrosse. It will right itself eventually, we cannot afford it. The day is coming that we will have to pay the bills. Prepare. Are you feeling your 'economic stimulus' yet? "

tax-me-more wrote on Oct 17, 2007 8:01 AM:

" Now that the state boys finally get we can't afford higher taxes, we can start with the locals. Let the County Doyle know you've had it with his TAX AND SPEND philosophy as well. "

DJ: wrote on Oct 17, 2007 8:01 AM:

" ..however, Dan the man made a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Go Loggers! "

tax-me-more wrote on Oct 17, 2007 8:00 AM:

" Vicky: How did you arrive at your conclusion? Refusing to pass HUGE tax increases on to me, HELPS ME and also helps you. Please explain how refusing to raise our taxes is forgetting "about the people in western Wisconsin who voted him into office." "

DJ: wrote on Oct 17, 2007 7:59 AM:

" ..to NS, wasn't a misprint, guv not guy, I meant Doyle. "

excuseme wrote on Oct 16, 2007 9:56 PM:

" I forgot who runs the media in the United States. Please VOTE whenever you are given the chance. Thank You "

take it or leave it wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:48 PM:

" The Doyle budget is THE LARGEST TAX INCREASE IN WI history - over $1 BILLION in new taxes the largest increase in WI history. Gripe all you want about dems and repubs but the fact is we are 8TH IN THE NATION FOR THE HIGHEST TAXES!!!!!! ARE WE GOING FOR #1??? WITH DOYLE'S BUDGET WE WILL BE THERE SOON! Call your Democrat senator or assembly rep and tell them the new taxes are unacceptable! THEY NEED TO COMPROMISE - DOYLE IS USING THE BUDGET AS A HOSTAGE TACTIC TO GET HIS RECORD SPENDING FOR NEXT YEAR. Any ideas on increasing taxing gaming revenues of the tribes (oh we forget, they are a huge campaign contributor to the Doyle). GET THIS BUM OUT OF OFFICE! "

Darwinism wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:41 PM:

" However, this state government has only 1 compulsatory action they MUST do every year...Pass a budget. If these were my CEO's with one task for the year and their 3 months late I'd fire them all. Sequesture them, no media, phone calls, nothing until this stalemate is resolved. Nothing can disrupt our society today as a major disruption in government services that we rely on today. Your constituants are waiting.... "

bluestatebruce wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:39 PM:

" Hey Packer Backer, how much did you pay for your license plates this year? Borrow-and-spend Pawlenty and his boys will also thank you for helping to build 2 or 3 new sports palaces to replace a perfectly good one already in existence. "

Darwinism wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:32 PM:

" We must do something!!! Be careful of this panic statement. This gets us into 2 concurrent unwinable wars, spend billions to rebuild New Orleans where we know it can't stand up to Cat. 5 storms, build railings along a river when you can go over similar railings on a bridge, consider bailing out failing mortgage companies for loose practices for profits, unravel current healthcare system hoping it might be better. Panic decisions tend to not be good. "

Li'l Beaver wrote on Oct 16, 2007 7:51 PM:

" Folks lets face facts it is time to take up a couple of notches in the old belt. With all the "Wants" of the educational system and all the "Wants" of every little special interest group the taxpayers income is no longer able to keep up with the goverment spending. Even with all the calls for more and longer prison sentences which seems honorable you folks need to see the increasing costs of keeping people locked up especially as the prison population ages. We have more government than we can afford now! "

daisy24 wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:56 PM:

" I think no one in the WI legislature should be able to get a pay check until a budget is passed! Why should they get paid for getting nothing done? Another reason we need to get rid of career politicians and get some legislatures that know from the real world how to get something done! ON TIME! "

Vicky wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:40 PM:

" Northsider - I stand behind BlueState. Mikey is only concerned about his big money buddies in SE Wisconsin and has completely forgotten about the people in western Wisconsin who voted him into office for the last umpteen years. Time for an immediate change. "

North Sider wrote on Oct 16, 2007 3:22 PM:

" Go get'em BlueState. Seems from here you are one who stands at the sidelines and hollers. Recall?, I'll bet. That might actually take some work and time out of your day. I think not!!! "

Mack wrote on Oct 16, 2007 1:52 PM:

" Why don't we just borrow the difference and pass it on to the next generation? They are going to have to be the ones with the problem solving skills with the world they are inheriting. "

Terminus wrote on Oct 16, 2007 1:35 PM:

" People are finally waking up! USA Today SCHIP Poll-52% agree with Bush that most benefits should go to children in families earning less than 200% of the federal poverty level — about $41,000 for a family of four. Only 40% say benefits should go to families earning up to $62,000, as the bill written by Democrats and some Republicans would allow. • 55% are very or somewhat concerned that the program would create an incentive for families to drop private insurance. Bush and Republican opponents have called that a step toward government-run health care. Taken together, the results show that while Bush may be losing the political battle with Democrats, he may be doing better on policy. Let the Democrats in the Statehouse in WI take notice, we are sick of your Big Gov giveaways! It's time the dog starts wagging the tail again. "

ZZ wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:44 PM:

" It's only $1 billion in new taxes. How many Billion people live in Wi. We do not have that many little chickens in the state. "

packer backer wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:43 PM:

" I used to live in Wisconsin, now I am over in that "other" state, Minnesota, I am glad I am. See we elected a republican gov. and we got money, after we got rid of the wacko wrestler. But Wisconsin, as long as you got dems running the show.. get your wallets out boys and girls. Dems like to spend money for YOU! Just listen to them, the more they spend the happier they are. Say hon whats for dinner?? hot dogs.. Doyle has raised our taxes again!! "

bluestatebruce wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:33 PM:

" Dodger: You are correct. See Big Spender's earlier post about the borrow-and-spend army and you'll realize the GOP is all about spending your grandkids' money and leaving them nothing in return. No clean environment, no quality education, no affordable healthcare; nothing that isn't profit-driven is worthwhile to them. "

bluestatebruce wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:12 PM:

" Only 19 days until we can legally begin circulating Huebsch's recall petition. He's NOT representing me by NOT getting a budget bill to the governor's desk. "

dodger wrote on Oct 16, 2007 10:58 AM:

" Was not good old Mike down in Madison with good old Tommy Boy? Then Tommy went to Washington and left Wisconsin three billion in the hole! "

north sider wrote on Oct 16, 2007 10:32 AM:

" TO: Kay- They are taking this very serioulsy. It is not "ridiculous". Thank Goodness the have finally said, NO!!!! Seems to me a line in sand. "

Kay wrote on Oct 16, 2007 10:01 AM:

" Every member of our Legislature should receive a cut in pay for EVERY DAY that this budget has been delayed. Perhaps then they would take it seriously. This is absolutely ridiculous. "

Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 16, 2007 9:11 AM:

" Assembly Minority Leader Jim Kreuser, D-Kenosha should be ashamed.......of his blatant lying. He said “Your side should be ashamed to not be able to compromise and work together.” The Republicans offered a compromise many times, but it was the Democrats that refuse to budge. Most notibly, the Republicans agreed to pass everything the Democrats wanted in education spending, they just wanted it as a separate bill, but the Democrats said no. What Kreuser and other Democrats mean by 'compromise and work togather' obviously just means agree to everything the Democrats want. That's not what Huebsch and the others were elected to do. They were elected to represent us, their constituents, not just march lock-step with the Democrats. "

North Sider wrote on Oct 16, 2007 9:07 AM:

" TO: DJ- If you are speaking about Mike you are way off. He has managed to hold his side together for an unprecedented time. More power to him! While on the other side our locally elected Senator is mute. That is why many locally call Kapanake a RINO (Republican in name only). If anybody should do something with as a "sausage" it should be Kapanke, at his ballpark, that he is paying a pittance to the City for. "

irish_frog wrote on Oct 16, 2007 9:04 AM:

" The 23 Republicans who signed the "Americans for Tax Reform" pledge, in which they refused to raise taxes even to keep up with inflation, are to blame for this stalemate. While this may seem laudable, the power of our congress is to reach compromises between different groups, as no one will ever be totally happy. I suppose if we want no new funding to go to local police or schools that is fine, but these Republicans are completely out of sync with the rest of Wisconsin. "

DJ: wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:55 AM:

" Speaking frankly, the guv has proven he is no leader. Its time for him to resign and get a job as the 5th sausage in the race at the ballpark. "

North Sider wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:23 AM:

" Hang in their Mike. A high spnding, nonsensical budget, literally dry gulching one segment at a time. "

tax-me-more wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:19 AM:

" Now the Republicans are in control, so here is what they need to do: [ 1-- ] Cut out all the pork programs and reduce spending. [ 2-- ] Once some budget compromise is reached, REFUSE to pass it unless/until Doyle goes on TV and tells the whole state he will NOT HACK IT UP with the VOODOO VETO. [ 3-- ] Doyle comes out and says he 100% supports the constitutional amendment limiting the veto power. Anything less, continue as we are. "

The Real World wrote on Oct 16, 2007 7:40 AM:

" Some one has to be responsible we must put further spending on hold until we get our debt under control. We are going to get this state in a serious decline if we don't work out this excessive spending. "

PHIL OSIFER wrote on Oct 16, 2007 7:02 AM:

" READ MY LIPS "NO NEW TAXES" It still hasn't occured to everyone that the reason retireees and business's are leaving Wisconsin is because of the increasing taxes and government's hand in everyone pocket. While there are a lot of groups with theeir hands out looking for hand outs there are not enough dollars togo around anymore. It's time for a serious taxpayers revolt. We were lied to 6 years ago when Doyle was first elected and we were lied to when he was re-elected, let's not make this mistake for a third time. "

Sully wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:44 AM:

" 1625 pages. Will anyone ever read it. What a joke. "

Big Spender wrote on Oct 16, 2007 1:11 AM:

" The Republicans are trying to look like the great protector of the taxpaying public. The reality is different...Republicans have a borrow-and-spend record all the way from the national level to the local one. Remember GOP Gov. Dreyfus who ran the state into a big hole? And, Tommy T, who couldn't hand out pork fast enough...Tommy even joked about the half-percent stadium tax he helped impose on the working people of Door County. Gotta make sure those GOP bigwigs get new luxury sky boxes! Just be happy that GW Bush warn't gov here; he's the worst borrow-and-spend 'Pug the nation has ever known--he even beat out Reagan's $2 trillion borrowing spree! "

wisCONsin wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:58 AM:

" Remember this next time you vote DON'T RELECT ANYBODY that don't keep there promises and don’t work for the betterment of the people of wisCONsin! there pay should stop until they produce a budget and all state workers layed off, I'll bet things would get done if it started digging into there pockets!! "

tax-me-more wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:27 AM:

" Doyle LIES! The Assembly DID PASS a budget. It is Doyle and the Senate that are holding this up. Robson is correct, it is time for the Democrats to fold. "


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