mindless nomind wrote on Oct 25, 2007 5:12 PM:
" Bobo please go away or back to the cookoo house. For some reason you can slander others, especially constantly on the cops, but Tribune lets you put posts on here, and others that question your mental stability are pulled off this post. Is the Tribune afraid of you because you are so out of touch with reality. "
BoBo wrote on Oct 23, 2007 4:47 AM:
" I myself think this is a set up to make our police force look inocent and take the attention away from the rouge female cop (Mississippi Queen) that has been killing our students. I believe that's why this guy is older and made himself well known earlier in the evening by getting kicked off the MTU. I think this whole thing was staged to take the heat off the "queen theory" and make it look like just another nut-job wanting to off himself. Keep up the good work boys. You can fool all the people some of the time, some of the people all the time, but you can't fool me! "
thinktwice wrote on Oct 22, 2007 5:11 PM:
" nice job tribune, pull any post that points out your flaws "
thinktwice wrote on Oct 22, 2007 5:10 PM:
" tribune pulled my previous comment, this article is missing alot of the facts, go take a look at the news channel 8 web site, their coverage is better "
squiggs wrote on Oct 22, 2007 5:08 PM:
" I wrote a letter before and the thing that I forgot to mention is that we should be very proud of the hard work that these firefighters had to go through for the rescue of this person.
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may16 wrote on Oct 22, 2007 1:02 PM:
" I agree with "Thoughts". To mix booze with the energy drinks is very dangerous. The bars are serving more and more of these drinks with the energy drinks mixed in. I have seen a friend drink these and not remember what she was doing or where she even was 3 hours later. "
Enjoylife wrote on Oct 22, 2007 12:21 PM:
" PS- For those of you that say, it isn't too far between riverside, and Cass Street bridge, take a drive down there and look for yourself. "
Enjoylife wrote on Oct 22, 2007 12:19 PM:
" BerkshireBull-They took him to the hospital because he was SUICIDAL; that means he would have jumped in ANYWAY. Had the reserve not been there, it would have been another case of the "riverkiller" for everyone to jump on. I cannot believe that nobody has jumped on the fact that the current is that swift. Lets do the math: Fire Dept is at 5th/Market Street. He jumps in water at Riverside. They took him out of the river SOUTH of Cass Street Bridge. I would say thats pretty swift current- in fact, so swift that if I was drunk when I FELL in, I could not get myself out before washing downstream an probably dying. "
berkshire bull wrote on Oct 22, 2007 11:45 AM:
" The Student River Patrol has now become the problem! This guy would have gone for a stroll and left on his own but they provoked him into jumping into the river! "
Enjoylife wrote on Oct 22, 2007 11:32 AM:
" HonestAbe- not trying to sound like a "Know it all" but you have to realize, not all search warrants turn out to be something. Keep in mind the informants are often druggies themselves, so often the information they receive isnt always accurate. A pound of cocaine, often turns out in reality to be a gram of weed. (not hardly news worthy). In case you have been living under a rock for the last 10 years, the chief of police loves having his picture in the paper- he isn't going to lose the chance, if something big happens. Dont worry, they are not hiding anything from you. Its all public record. "
Swanee wrote on Oct 22, 2007 10:50 AM:
" Sorry, but the Tribune needs to print another article clarifying the details of this story. He is not a young man nor did the authorities find him in the River. Why are you fueling the hysteria? Or is this supposed to be positve PR for the Police? "Whew! They saved this one!" "
HonestAbe wrote on Oct 22, 2007 10:43 AM:
" I really believe the police squash much of what goes on in the area, almost as if the Trib has to get permission to put the story to print. I live in a not so good area, I've seen gun play, cops raiding this and that, never to hear a word about it on/in the Trib .... hmmmmm Can't wait for a new chief and mayor, can't wait. "
HonestAbe wrote on Oct 22, 2007 10:40 AM:
" enjoylife, they seem to have forgotten Gordon Stumlin too, he was in his 30s when he died at the beginning of these happenings. He was very intraverted, didn't go downtown ever, he had mental issues. (I knew him from high school) It's really sad that when people speak of these drownings, he's never on the list, virtually forgotton, and that is wrong. Obviously not every case is going to have the same cause and effect, just because we see one guy jump in the river, we can't point our finger on that one fact and say "ah ha" that's what it is. That curb on the river front has to be made taller, a rat maze above isn't going to help. "
Enjoylife wrote on Oct 22, 2007 10:24 AM:
" Its amazing how people still believe the "Mississippi Queen" theory. (Thats what I call her.) Yet each time someone lives after JUMPING in, they are not lumped in with the rest. Like Joseph Smith a couple of years ago (the police cadet saw him jump in), yet he was never clumped in with the drowning victims. Now this guy. They will both be forgotten. Not only that, but some people even clump in Gordon Stumlin (who doesn't even come close to a, "athletic college student"), but because he drowned, he just gets added to the list. . . now the same with the marine; he clearly does not fit the Queens M.O., but people like the Mountain Dew man, still insist theres a killer. . . . Cracks me up "
Willie wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:46 AM:
" This was old news as Channel 8 had the story at 10PM last night. They reported that a 36 year old intoxicated man was talking to a reserve police officer when he decided to run from him and jumped into the river. He was pulled from the river by the fire dept. rescue boat. (Ten firefighters were on the scene and one was treated and released for back pain.) The intoxicated man was then taken to the hospital on a 72 hour hold. I guess some people consider 36 young, but the readers here drew the conclusion that it was another college student (or 20 something) in the river. "
CJ wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:34 AM:
" Maybe if he's from UW-L he can donate some $ for the stadium...........unreal to go jump in..idiot "
Chronic Complainer wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:26 AM:
" Throw him back in. He is under the IQ limit. "
thinktwice wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:26 AM:
" mtdew101: When you were down there at the park did you not see the levey, these men are not falling in over the rocks, they are tripping over the curb on the levey and falling into "deep" water. Give the conspiracy theory a rest! "
mtdew101 wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:18 AM:
" i think la crosse does have a problem with drinking however in my opinion its not just these kids going out and drinking until early in the morning, there are to many coincidences like all being athletic boys from uwl, that the sniffing dogs followed their trail which was a straight shoot from the bars downtown right into the river plus them not having any scratches or cuts from falling into the rocks etc. i've been down to river side park enough times to know that there is no way a drunk person can climb over those rocks and right into the river while drunk enough to do it. for those of you who doubt it maybe when you get suduced and thrown into the river they will blame it on binge drinking "
fishingpro wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:11 AM:
" I had heard on the radio this morning that the young man was 36 years old. "
ToeJam wrote on Oct 22, 2007 8:46 AM:
" The tribune has little more value than the paper its printed on. Its the only paper where the news stories are funner than the comics. "
just a girl wrote on Oct 22, 2007 8:25 AM:
" to: Darwin
No, the Trib should not report every little detail, but don't start the article with "man was found in the Mississippi River on Sunday morning, but this time help came in time to save him"...This implies he was in the water when rescuers came. He in fact jumped in because the cops were after him. That is very misleading, and as someone very close to one of the young men in the river years ago, we had no details about when or where he entered the river, just that he was intoxicated. He had not even been dowtown beforehand. So when articles like these come out, it just hits the wrong notes with me. "
Darwin wrote on Oct 22, 2007 8:19 AM:
" I have a firefighter in my family, so I know there are always more facts than what is reported to the paper, then to us. Bravo to the Trib to only reporting the facts they know to be true, rather than resorting to conjecture or causing pain to the family of this man. That's what the bloggers on the website are for :) No matter what happen it's not up to the Tribune to play judge and jury. "
Thoughts... wrote on Oct 22, 2007 8:05 AM:
" The difference between drunk kids/adults today and those from 10+ years ago is the fact that most of them now drink alcohol and also consume high energy drinks at the same time. So, instead of passing out or falling asleep, kids/adults today are completely drunk and still very much awake, thus the belligerent drunks that fight with the police, fall into the river or off of bridges and bluffs. It's a very scary thought considering how popular these drinks have become. There's no doubt in my mind that they are a contributing factor to the amount of alcohol related deaths in the area. "
just a girl wrote on Oct 22, 2007 7:55 AM:
" I think that this is a completely different case, as was the one during Octoberfest where the man jumped off the bridge. It seems they conveiniently left out the details that would explain that these cases are different so they can be grouped with the others. Why not just report that he jumped in when the police were chasing him and held a life preserver the entire time??? That wouldn't be as exciting would it!? "
mommyx2 wrote on Oct 22, 2007 7:34 AM:
" To Squiggs--There is a law in place that says bartenders are not to serve drunk people; but who is going to enforce that? "
squiggs wrote on Oct 22, 2007 7:20 AM:
" I strongly believe there is something going wrong in the LaCrosse community but I doubt if it's serial killing.
Just look at all the people whom have drowned in the Mississippi in the past few years.
They were all alcohol related in some way.
I don't believe that a person can get so drunk that they would just walk right into a river. The water alone would be cold enough to wake themselves up.
There needs to be a law where when you go
to a bar, the bartender should be able to tell when enough is enough.
Don't serve them if they can't focus or walk anymore...Let need to save lives not kill them. "
bearcat25 wrote on Oct 22, 2007 7:15 AM:
" Oh great...a bunch of scanner heads...Don't people have better things to do at 0230 such as maybe...sleep? "
The Jolly Troll wrote on Oct 22, 2007 6:37 AM:
" Ya know, ACE, before I even read your post...while I was still reading the article, I was wondering "When does somebody jump in the river and blame the "serial killer" just to get attention?" "
ACE wrote on Oct 22, 2007 6:29 AM:
" I think this has turned into a "i want attention" from these spoiled little brats that didn't get enough attention from mommy and daddy. "
Wheezer wrote on Oct 22, 2007 6:00 AM:
" thinktwice and thetrain....I think you are the same person using a multi. How many other names do you have? If you can't convince people with one name, beat with numbers huh?! "
Wheezer wrote on Oct 22, 2007 5:57 AM:
" Here we go again...OK, the serial killer's name is Bud Weiser! Hopefully all the lunitics still stuck on the "serial killer" theory can sleep better tonight knowing he has been caught! "
Sully wrote on Oct 22, 2007 5:39 AM:
" Thanks Bruce, I was listening too, but came in a few minutes late. Would you agree that there is a huge amount of stuff going on in La Crosse that for some reason the Tribune, and TV stations do not share with the public? I am amazed at the crime that we never hear about. "
choochoo wrote on Oct 22, 2007 4:21 AM:
" Thanks bruce for more of a story than the Tribune gave. "
bruce wrote on Oct 22, 2007 2:20 AM:
" I listened to this unfold on the scanner, The young man went down to the park and was quickly asked to leave by the River Patrol, He refused and became VERY verbally abusive to the Patrol. The police were called and as soon as the young man saw the police he ran and jumped into the river. Within a few minutes a life perserver was thrown to him, he held onto it the whole time, but refuse to come back to shore. By the time the Dive Rescue and La Crosse Fire Depts got there with their boats he was South of the Cass street bridge. He was then grabbed and pulled aboard one of the boats and then taken into custody. He was then sent to the hospital on a 72hr hold. "
thinktwice wrote on Oct 21, 2007 11:51 PM:
" Further details on this should be very interesting, my guess, Operation River Watch and the LCPD patrols helped save this mans life. "
thetrain wrote on Oct 21, 2007 11:45 PM:
" Can't wait to hear the full story on this. Wouldn't it be something if this person survived the "serial killer"? All the talk about wondering how people end up there, this will be very interesting. "
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