kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 24, 2007 1:47 AM:
" North Sider: If you don't want to be embarrassed for your spelling...edit before sending. Please note this an attempt at positive criticism. Take a moment to check for spelling or punctuation errors because doing so can only improve your argument even those I don't agree with. Otherwise, you come across as simpleminded, can't handle criticism and I don't think you really are that way. Or am I wrong here? "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 24, 2007 1:30 AM:
" To davidinlse and North Sider: irish-frog is right about your spelling at least. I once had both a high school teacher and a lady college professor explain to me the value of communication in both the written and spoken form. It both shows your keenness of thought and ability to prove you were properly taught how to express such thought. Your zeal to post may have caused your oversight of the details in spelling. Details are important in any profession including writing. I wish our government officals were more aware concerning details because lack of them leads to bad policies. I don't need to cite the many examples of these kind of failures. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 24, 2007 1:13 AM:
" Maybe the real question is what is the REAL COST of college for each degree? Apparently, tuition doesn't cover the entire cost paid to the university. That being said, how much is taxpayers subsidizing for each degree to supposively make them affordable. Anyone with true information please post. Are each colleges/universities budgets somewhere to be found broken down to evaluate how the money is both generated and spent? This would be both newsworthy and would put the debate on financing our schools in proper perspective. "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:28 PM:
" Reply to 'Vicky'--you are quite right (if I am reading into your comment correctly) that salary disparities between CEOs and ordinary workers are unfair--this is especially unfair when undeserving CEOs still collect enormous paychecks at times they are running their companies into the ground. My comment is meant as an ominous warning that, during times of austerity, hardship for the working classes will trickle up the food chain. The party for CEOs will end as the system collapses due to its own excesses. "
North Sider wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:05 PM:
" To: David- Touche'. We can only hope that this guy is not an educator and his mean spirted and limp attempts to embarass are not paraded in front of our children. A blog, not an English class. When it seems you cannot win the fight, a low blow might be in order for some. "
davidinlse wrote on Oct 22, 2007 8:14 PM:
" RE; irish_frog.
How many years have you been receiving your paycheck from the taxpayers. Your pointless posting indicated a long career in government or education. Perhaps you can't comprehend what a blog is for.
"
irish_frog wrote on Oct 22, 2007 6:43 PM:
" Several of you would benefit from a few college classes, but you make excellent examples for what happens when we don't invest enough in education. rprp: I assume you mean "they are" instead of their. North sider: I assume you mean "asset" instead of assett, you could also do with a few more verbs to make full sentences, and perhaps some punctuation. "
rprp wrote on Oct 22, 2007 6:29 PM:
" Let the parents pay for their schooling with tuition and the alumni put some money in the till. Graduates are smart, they leave the state. I wonder if their taught this by the educator or their parents. "
irish_frog wrote on Oct 22, 2007 5:01 PM:
" Well, La Crosse is simply reaping what it has sown. If the area consistently protests the funding of education, those that decide on the funding have no incentive to send any this way, as people will complain no matter what they do. Way to do nay-sayers. "
north sider wrote on Oct 22, 2007 5:00 PM:
" "Apparently, our legislators don’t understand the concept of supply and demand"? I cannot believe how short sighted you guys at the Tribune are? Where did you get that one sided view from? Over the barbecue in your backyard with 'On Too Many Boards'? Hook your reporter up with me in a week or two. I will set Samantha up to interview the 'other side' of this issue. You know, the parking side. The side that will suffer, as they are stuck with their largest assett in the form of their house. While you on the Editorial Board look at the world with blinders on and ignore new concepts like TND 'spot' re-zoning, and 'Satellite' parking? Also the long and short term ramifications of ill conceived ideas because funding shortages. Funding shortages because of runaway spending reflected since the late 90's. "
rick harsch wrote on Oct 22, 2007 2:48 PM:
" Multicultural studies degrees are no more or less significant in academia than other humanities degrees. However, the vast majority of the US would profit from multicultural studies, as the country is known world-wide as weak in this area. "
North Sider wrote on Oct 22, 2007 2:37 PM:
" How in the world does not giving them more money equate into not being "fair"? "
patrioticamerican wrote on Oct 22, 2007 1:18 PM:
" "Apparently, our legislators don’t understand the concept of supply and demand. They don’t want to approve a unique, entrepreneurial approach." Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? I'm not sure the Tribune, the Legislature, or the University, the business college notwithstanding, understands the concept of supply and demand. They wouldn't know an entrepreneurial approach if it bit them. Besides the Growth and Access plan was less supply and demand as it was gaming the system to take advantage of more out of state tuition rates and financial aid rules. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 22, 2007 11:54 AM:
" patroiticamerican: I agree in principle what your second posting is trying to say concerning the value of certain degrees. The ones mentioned should be either minors or courses of emphasis towards a larger degree. A degree should somehow allow an individual to work for themselves if they cannot find work for any companies. Some areas need tweeking to get us into that kind of direction with courses in business principles as well. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 22, 2007 11:46 AM:
" Hey north sider: Vicky has ever right and merit to gripe about the excessive pay of CEO's. Their performance has been in question for years, yet even small investors are being raked by paying this person such high salaries let alone bonuses AND stock options. The 400% to every low wage worker in the business shows why there is a shaky economy. CEO's can only spend so much on daily needs, after that everything is luxury. The average worker is struggling to meet the daily needs. Where is their return for their increased productivity? No wonder people don't want to work for a living...they aren't being paid their value. "
patrioticamerican wrote on Oct 22, 2007 11:42 AM:
" I agree with the article that we need more educated folks for a successful economy. However, the University continues to churn out folks that have degrees in dubious studies. While it may be worthwhile to understand the current and historical nature of racism via Multicultural Studies, it does little more than provide someone a degree to work at another "Institution of Higher Learning". Unfortunately this perpetuates poor statistics of people of color in traditional professions thus providing fodder of racism in the same Multicultural Studies programs. Had more of these folks of color gone on to medical school or business school, there would be more doctors and business people of color today. I would assign the University a higher budget priority if it worked a little harder at producing more graduates that actually generated tax revenue as opposed to consumed them. "
kamikazefaase wrote on Oct 22, 2007 11:37 AM:
" North Sider: The Tribune comments are on the OPINION page, not the news section. You are entitled to send your thoughts to letters to the editor at the La Crosse Tribune as they are OPINIONS NOT NEWS. Your 9:09am posting was a waste of time reading because it made no sense when you should be discussing the merits of the UW-L needs for the future. Your post doesn't fix anything. Please take this suggestion of remembering what part of the paper you are posting your thoughts on so your better ideas come forth. "
patrioticamerican wrote on Oct 22, 2007 11:18 AM:
" This is really quite amusing. It is amazing to me how the Tribune has changed its tune from "can't they just do their job and compromise to get a budget deal done?" to now bemoan that their pork "didn't get the budget they wanted". Well there was compromise and a budget deal, where are the congratulations or how about an "it took you long enough" editorial? No more news story after news story about how our state took the longest time to get a budget deal. What the Tribune really wanted were the Republicans to feel the heat that they were applying and just cave to raise taxes so that a quick budget deal would be done including the Governor's proposal on UW-L's budget. I guess it is a matter of be careful what you wish for. "
north sider wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:33 AM:
" Of course you think they have been treated unfairly. They also happen to be the same cast of characters you have barbecues in your backyard with. "
north sider wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:31 AM:
" TO: Vicki- Same old meritless, fact void complaint. Most of the Corporations, partnerships, and propreiters are like myself, 'small businesses'. Even though the larger corporations are either publicly traded or private. It is their business what they pay their executives. It really comes down to CEO's making a good return for their stockholder investments. Except for too rare cases like ADM with the SEC, regarding bennies and pay to their upper manangement. Your cry of 'pay' foul has no merit. Although tax cuts and government incentive money is indeed a horse of a different color. "
north sider wrote on Oct 22, 2007 9:09 AM:
" The Tribune Staff, Now the Editorial Board, what is next a non-stop mantra from the Secretaries, Ad order takers, and janitors. Report the News. Goodness knows it could improve. How about some meetings, times and printed in easy to notice place? How about some coverage and heads up on obtuse and questionable practices and decisions. Even those 'practices' that you do not agree with down there. You should easily be able to gauge that there is a anti side to some of these issues. Nothing, no coverage, nothing!!!!! "
Vicky wrote on Oct 22, 2007 8:10 AM:
" Big Spender thinks that there will be "cuts coming ... for corporate management". I would like to see the day when CEO's are making less than 400% more than their average company worker. "
Dean wrote on Oct 22, 2007 6:21 AM:
" When Tommy was gov , prison spending was up over 400% while university funding was maybe up,but not by much "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 22, 2007 12:17 AM:
" What the Tribune editorial board "fails to understand is this:" half of the citizenry is broke. The article is correct that we need more citizens with college degrees, but because the U.S. is entering a new age of austerity, the colleges will have to learn to adapt as we will all have to learn to adapt. Academia will face the same cuts in pay and in opportunity we watched the factory workers suffer through. Cuts are coming for government officials and staff, and for corporate management...for all the professional classes. Again, here's why: "More Americans scramble to stretch paychecks" http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21380215/ "
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