Whaaa?!? wrote on Jan 17, 2008 12:35 AM:
" "...some male prisoners could temporarily be moved there while cell blocks in the men’s jail are remodeled for the few WOMEN who need to be jailed, said County Administrator Steve O’Malley." Looks like to me there will still be jail for women...all you scared men can breathe now. "
jimevans_2000 wrote on Dec 31, 2007 1:53 PM:
" Two questions:
1) The women who are in jail for crimes related to addiction to crack and meth are not considered dangerous?
2) How many "dangerous" men are in jail solely for not being able to pay Child Support? "
GlennR wrote on Dec 26, 2007 1:38 PM:
" andyK....The issue here is "DISCRIMINATION" "BIAS"
"UNCONSTITUTIONAL" Thats the issue!
"This is a courageous move by the board, and I applaud them for taking this step. "
andyK...its a board of morons and you must have a mother or sister in jail.
EVERY male in La Crosse county had better BEWARE
I can assure you this is just the start of an attack on ALL MALES here.
You don't do something about it NOW...You deserve what you get. "
observant1 wrote on Dec 26, 2007 9:26 AM:
" This is insulting to females and to all law abiding honest citizens of LaCrosse county (everywhere really). The same could be said for men, I know that men are in jail "because of some kind of relationship with a woman." I know of a particular female that has used & abused every social program out there all the while abusing drugs and neglecting her children. Who pays for her programs? WE DO. After a dozen stints in treatment (conveniently timed when court dates arise for crimes she commits) - we still pay for her. So Mr Belzer, I once respected you.... now I'm wondering exactly what is in your head..... or not in your head. "
borgy55 wrote on Dec 25, 2007 8:32 PM:
" Belzer said women are almost always in the system “because of some kind of relationship with a man.” Yes, god forbid a woman ever has to take responsibility for her own actions.
Another example of the ineluctable slide toward a pervasive and all-powerful bureaucratic totalitarianism.
At the psychological level, we have to take women off the pedestal, and we wont do that as a culture until we see the evil that they do, as we already have with men. But we are very attached to the idealistic notion of “motherhood” as our last great goddess, and so it will take massive suffering before we will be willing to see womens dark side, and let them be fully human”. "
09181952 wrote on Dec 25, 2007 8:26 PM:
" What insanity!! Victims of men according to Keith Belzer. What about the children of these woman who are never held accountable. My grandchildren are among them. Their "victim" mother has been offered and been in no less than 8 treatment center and halfway houses. She has worked no more than 1-1/2 years in the last 9 years, used the programs, manipulated the system and continues still. Her children are the true victim of the system that does not deal equally. Besides her children she has left many other victim's along the way. I guess at some point she MUST HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OF A MALE!!!!!!!!!!! Shame Shame Mr. Belzer "
Robert Gartner wrote on Dec 24, 2007 8:32 AM:
" Is the following quote some kind of misprint??
Belzer said women are almost always in the system “because of some kind of relationship with a man.”
And here we have the 'women' getting the money spent on 'rehabilitation' services. And the jail will be converted for more 'men' to be housed.
Hey, it wont be long in Lacrosse to see some thing like a Snake Farm along an incoming road where a woman can legally pitch tomatoes at incarcerated men, forgiven of course, because it was a man at whom and with whom she did the deed.
Belzer is one of your supervisors? Is he gay? "
ollie wrote on Dec 21, 2007 8:30 PM:
" Let's see here.....Yup, this one's got a penis too....Off to jail you monster! "
Willie wrote on Dec 21, 2007 7:42 PM:
" Ken, you will need to keep those jailers to man the old jail when the male inmates are there until the new addition is opened, then you will need them to man the new addition. Then you will have to add jailers when they want direct supervision. Wait and see. "
digitalhermit wrote on Dec 21, 2007 3:56 PM:
" Come to think of it, his is entirely unconstitutional even with a very liberal interpretation of the 14th amendment 'equal protection' clause. I would love to be there when the first lawsuits start flying from men who are now being treated quite unequally under the law. If the women get a free pass, then the men should too! Or the men could always get a sex change so they can stop being treated as second class citizens in LaCrosse. "
digitalhermit wrote on Dec 21, 2007 3:38 PM:
" Used to be we'd say "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". Well, I guess that only holds if you have the Y chromosome in Lacrosse. This is a blatantly sexist idea supported by feminist apologists like Keith Belzer. Basically what he's saying is that we should treat women like children who don't need to be held fully accountable for their actions - and then he blames it all on the men, nice touch Keith! "
Bill O'reilly wrote on Dec 21, 2007 12:24 PM:
" Belzer said women are almost always in the system “because of some kind of relationship with a man.” Belzer needs three things for Christmas this year. (1) Conair 2-in-1 rechargeable beard & mustache trimmer at Wal-maert.com $16.48 (2) larteg dumpster for all those sweaters from 1990. (3) One old sock for a mouthpiece. "
r&r wrote on Dec 21, 2007 12:09 PM:
" I smell a huge lawsuit when one of these women who are supposed to be in jail hurt or kill someone and should have been in jail instead. Some of these women are very dangerous and it's just another liberal move in order to make life easier for those who hurt others and commit crime. Where will this end and when will people, once again, take the punishment that is due to them for their own actions when they hurt society? Probably when the damage has already been done to society. "
4justice wrote on Dec 21, 2007 10:53 AM:
" I wonder how much thought was really put into this. So now the "dangerous" offenders will be in the male jail? Who determines which ones are "dangerous"? Will that person take the blame when one of these woman hurts/kills someone? "
radiogaga wrote on Dec 21, 2007 9:34 AM:
" I will take some to live in my house. Drug dealers, prostitutes, child beaters, embezzelers and forgers need not apply. "
andy k wrote on Dec 21, 2007 9:24 AM:
" The issue here is dangerousness. I understand it's fashionable to lock up everyone whose committed a crime, but we just can't afford to house offenders who aren't dangerous any more. This is a courageous move by the board, and I applaud them for taking this step. "
ToeJam wrote on Dec 21, 2007 8:39 AM:
" Looks like the village idiots in
Lacrosse have been working with the village people. "
Phil wrote on Dec 21, 2007 8:35 AM:
" This will definetley put La Crosse on the map. This has to be one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard. A crime is a crime, and we have laws that say you go to jail, how is this negotiable? We sure have some mighty powerful people running this county don't we? "
ToeJam wrote on Dec 21, 2007 8:29 AM:
"
Young woman, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young woman, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young woman, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.
Young woman, there's a place you can go.
I said, young woman, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
They have everything that you need to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal,
You can do whatever you feel ...It's fun to stay at the y-m-c-a.
"
Ken wrote on Dec 21, 2007 8:24 AM:
" Explain to me why LaCrosse is building a huge addition onto the men’s jail at huge cost to the taxpayers and eliminating the women’s jail? What "works" for the women of LaCrosse should work for the men of LaCrosse. If you eliminate a jail then what is the sense of keeping those jailers? Eliminate some of these government positions that are no longer needed . That are how it is done in the private sector where profit margins mean life or death of a business. "
opinionator wrote on Dec 21, 2007 7:47 AM:
" Explain to me what sex has to do with this. It is a clear bias against men and is illegal. You can't treat two people who commit the same crime differently based solely on sex. I am outraged! "
Bill O'reilly wrote on Dec 21, 2007 7:13 AM:
" Why didn't the Tribune ask Belzer how the Halbach family is doing this holiday season? "
iceman wrote on Dec 21, 2007 6:31 AM:
" Did someone drop the ball here? I believe know there have been a few women that have killed people while driving drunk in this county, battered their boyfriends/husbands, stolen vehicles, and committed burglaries, etc. I guess if its alright to let them walk the streets WHY do we have a jail for men? I guess the regular citizens have to wait until the next drunk female gets into a car and hits or steals from the county board or Omalley to change a few minds. Where is the common sense here? SAVE $ vs. PREVENT CRIME?????? "
Nikki Beaverhausen wrote on Dec 21, 2007 5:23 AM:
" Some relationship with a man? Doesn't this set back feminism about 100 years? A woman can't even get arrested without a man? "
The Moderate wrote on Dec 21, 2007 5:13 AM:
" Supervisor Jill Billings. “It’s a better way than locking them up.”
We shall see! Some are in for stealing. Some are in for violence. Some are in because they are anti-socials. Not all are in “because of some kind of relationship with a man.”
"
Sully wrote on Dec 21, 2007 3:11 AM:
" Belzer said women are almost always in the system “because of some kind of relationship with a man.” Yeah.... the cop who put the cuffs on them. This seems to imply that the reason women commit crime is only because of men. I would be willing to listen to how they figure that. "
MEXIMAN wrote on Dec 21, 2007 12:14 AM:
" Then they can sit in group and talk about their feelings right before they commit another crime.!!!! "
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