mindless nomind wrote on Jan 3, 2008 1:15 AM:
" Could the Tribune report what is going on with this, one of the local tv news said one of the males was arrested from this. "
notme wrote on Jan 2, 2008 7:07 AM:
" In 1987, when Florida enacted such legislation, critics warned that the "Sunshine State" would become the "Gunshine State." Contrary to their predictions, homicide rates dropped faster than the national average.
"it's your inability to fight back!!!" is spot-on correct.
John Lott and David Mustard, in connection with the University of Chicago Law School, examining crime statistics from 1977 to 1992 for all U.S. counties, concluded that the thirty-one states allowing their residents to carry concealed, had significant reductions in violent crime.
So YES, concealed carry would definitely "decrease the amount of violence "
novictim74 wrote on Jan 2, 2008 4:54 AM:
" I have lived in this city all my life, so it shouldn't surprise me the way that it does how the liberals come out on this issue. There have always been those select few that seem to think no matter what the situation is, we can hold hands, light a scented candle, sing kumbaya, and hug evil away. The reason concealed carry has been successful in EVERY state that has "shall issue" permits, is simply because no coward would brandish a weapon if there were the slightest chance there were law-abiding citizens among them carrying. It is not the element of surprise these cowards rely on, it's your inability to fight back!!! "
kamikazefaase wrote on Jan 2, 2008 1:55 AM:
" Sorry HonestAbe: No legalized carry concealed weapons for this year or any other year. The shooter had the element of surprise working in his favor. He also had the woman in the car so no fool would be able to return fire without possibly hitting her. No way in the drunken stupor we call downtown La Crosse would carry concealed weapon been of help. Instead it could have easily added to damage and lives either being injured or killed. Concealed carry doesn't work any better than not in this case. True firearms experts would agree with this finding therefore another setback for conceal carry. "
ryguy wrote on Dec 31, 2007 4:39 PM:
" Sadly he'll probably go on his life and continue in his cowardly way like he has with his big bad gun. It's probably a Pittsburgh Pirates jacket that he was wearing because they have black colors and a yellow P on their jerseys. Just a theory. "
antieverytHing wrote on Dec 31, 2007 4:34 PM:
" Bring in Curtis Sliwa "
jackson wrote on Dec 31, 2007 4:33 PM:
" Common LaCrosse your in EFFIGY Get down on it! "
shady wrote on Dec 31, 2007 4:31 PM:
" Go back to your "intelligent" blog on the home school subject and then repeat yourself Teriesias. "
North Sider wrote on Dec 31, 2007 4:16 PM:
" Imagine my surprise to find reactionaries and anti christians ranting on this forum! I am shocked, SHOCKED. "
jackson wrote on Dec 31, 2007 4:05 PM:
" To think we gave up the harmless CoonCreek riots for this. Happy New Year LaCrosse "
Teiresias wrote on Dec 31, 2007 3:40 PM:
" Imagine my surprise to find reactionaries and racists ranting on this forum! I am shocked, SHOCKED! "
devil's advocate wrote on Dec 31, 2007 2:11 PM:
" There already is a reward for info on this and other crimes. It is called crime stoppers, which is not really working. I think they need to reward for the type of person they are looking to get info from. In this case maybe offer a nice recently obtained crack pipe. The downtown area is going to hell fast with trash it is attracting. No I don't mean one race over another, every race has their trash. I know many fine upstanding people of every race and I see the trash of every race as well. "
boingo wrote on Dec 31, 2007 1:21 PM:
" Actually, put out a $1000 reward for information on their "brother" and the rats will turn him in faster than you can say, stoolie "
boingo wrote on Dec 31, 2007 1:18 PM:
" More permanent cameras are needed to record downtown activity. I'd be more than willing to have my taxes pay for cameras on corners rather than overpriced computers, carpet and new chairs for the common council. "
larrythelegend wrote on Dec 31, 2007 12:32 PM:
" fwiw... local radio is announcing what bar this happened in fron of... "
notme wrote on Dec 31, 2007 12:25 PM:
" wisCONsin:
You already have that right. You can open carry state wide with the exception of government buildings.
I say, load up and carry on. "
North Sider wrote on Dec 31, 2007 12:19 PM:
" Another Norwegian from Westby? "
larrythelegend wrote on Dec 31, 2007 11:53 AM:
" boingo... thugs will not say anything to the police, even in something like this... "
wisCONsin wrote on Dec 31, 2007 11:28 AM:
" wisCONsin don’t need a concealed carry permit law because crime is so low and wisCONsin has such good law enforcement per doyle. Yep I sure do feel safe knowing the keystone cops show up with in seconds and can't catch a gun man. When is wisCONsin going to realize that the scum already carry guns and the law abiding citizen needs the right to protect themselves and there family from these gangbangers "
notme wrote on Dec 31, 2007 11:25 AM:
" In 1987, when Florida enacted such legislation, critics warned that the "Sunshine State" would become the "Gunshine State." Contrary to their predictions, homicide rates dropped faster than the national average.
John Lott and David Mustard, in connection with the University of Chicago Law School, examining crime statistics from 1977 to 1992 for all U.S. counties, concluded that the thirty-one states allowing their residents to carry concealed, had significant reductions in violent crime.
So YES, concealed carry would definitely "decrease the amount of violence."
"
andy k wrote on Dec 31, 2007 11:06 AM:
" I don't doubt you, notme. You'll get that wascawwy wabbit!! Oops, that was Elmer Fudd. Sorry. "
boingo wrote on Dec 31, 2007 11:00 AM:
" I would think this would be pretty evident, but did the police even ask the girl he was arguing with what his name is? Was there a mob of people around after bartime that would have one person that knew this brother? Or did everyone clam up and say "Uhh, I didnt see nuthin". And how did the police not cordine off the block radius if they were there in a few seconds? Either hes got Jesse Owens speed or lives around that block. "
notme wrote on Dec 31, 2007 10:53 AM:
" andy:
No steam, anger, or humor here. I was serious. I have spent a great deal of time and money training and practicing.
If more of the silent majority exercised their rights, things link this, an innocent man getting hurt, wouldn't happen.
"
recklessness and water wrote on Dec 31, 2007 10:45 AM:
" RE: HonestAbe. Yes, because more guns will definitely decrease the amount of violence. "
radiogaga wrote on Dec 31, 2007 10:44 AM:
" LOL...like redneck college kids at Bronco's would do anything....except maybe run home and change their shorts after messing them up a tad bit. Tough guys. So...we know the description of the perp...which eliminates what population of the Lacrosse area? Good luck finding him. "
wigal wrote on Dec 31, 2007 9:46 AM:
" Ha, I was in Bronco's bar when this happened. Too bad he didn't come our way and let the rednecks deal with it!! "
shady wrote on Dec 31, 2007 9:17 AM:
" When words like whitey and blacky are used, even in jest that's hatefull and racist. Besides that I saw a$#h@#$s a few times, but your right, they will just remove them. "
andy k wrote on Dec 31, 2007 9:13 AM:
" Re: notme's 8:11 AM post - I'm picturing Yosemite Sam with steam coming out of his ears: "Ima gonna git that flea-bitten varmint!!!" "
just al wrote on Dec 31, 2007 8:57 AM:
" I do not think it got hateful, alot of facts were brought up. It was just that some people do not like to hear the truth. Beside why take the story off when they simply delete all the posts whenever the Trib wants to. "
shady wrote on Dec 31, 2007 8:19 AM:
" As hatefull as this blog got yesterday, I figured the story would have been pulled. No such luck. "
notme wrote on Dec 31, 2007 8:11 AM:
" Currently OPEN CARRY is 100% legal in Wisconsin and Governor Doyle not only supports open carry 100%, but also encourages it. To that end, the next time I venture downtown, I will be wearing my quick draw rig and carrying my S&W 629 .44 Magnum on my hip, just as the governor suggested. Rest assured that I am both fast and accurate. "
notme wrote on Dec 31, 2007 8:05 AM:
" I have lived in the greater La Crosse area for over 20 years and can say violence against law-abiding citizens is definitely on the rise. It is also obvious that unless we increase the police force some 9,000% that the government cannot protect its’ citizens. The college students started operation River Walk to protect the college students from falling prey to the river. I respectfully suggest we start up operation Safe Streets and have the CITIZENS themselves start patrolling problem areas of the city. "
mindless nomind wrote on Dec 31, 2007 5:37 AM:
" How many more people/shootings are going to happen at that bar "club". No other 100+ bars have shootings in 40 years, but this bar had three shot and one person MURDERED not long ago. How many more innnocent BYSTANDERS need to be victims, before the city does something. I wonder how long before the next one. I will try to look through Tribunes files to see how many shootings have occurred around that 'club'. "
Wheezer wrote on Dec 31, 2007 4:57 AM:
" OLLIE: Your prejudice and intelligence are showing....put them away before you hurt yourself. "
Jackson wrote on Dec 31, 2007 2:28 AM:
" I bet they find him in Rockford "
HonestAbe wrote on Dec 31, 2007 1:56 AM:
" legalize concealed carry "
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