Teiresias wrote on Jan 30, 2008 9:57 AM:
" For "just-observing", don't confuse WEATHER with CLIMATE.
Do a little research if you need to but don't get the idea that a one-day (or even a one year) shift in temperature, pressure or precipitation is the equivalent of climate. "
Michael Welch wrote on Jan 29, 2008 10:54 AM:
" 'Krusty' quit making up stuff and being such a potty-mouth jerk: I never was a lawyer -- and does your mom 'sleep alone' too? Knock it off!... "
Clyde wrote on Jan 29, 2008 6:24 AM:
" Don't tell me, recycling and carbon control is good even if it is not causing climate change. Since it is GOOD then the agenda should not need fear mongering and timetables of doom for implementation! "
Clyde wrote on Jan 29, 2008 6:17 AM:
" I am ready to join the true believers like the commercial with hoards assembling before dawn holding mattresses and trash can lids against the rising sun. Please answer just a couple of questions. 1) What was the man made force that caused the glaciers which covered the Northern Hemisphere as far south as Central Wisconsin to begin to melt 6,000 years ago? 2) For 30 years there have been scientific instruments on Mars. During that time there has been a slight increase in average temperature on Mars. What man made force has caused the climate change on Mars? Please, Please, I am ready to believe! I am ready to blame capitalism and America just give me a morsel. I want to matter, I want to believe! "
antieverything wrote on Jan 28, 2008 8:53 PM:
" Teir... I do my share, I bought one of the first hybrid Suvs available, I promote and live passive solar and I vote conservative. I am not a poser. We do so much much more and are still expected to bow down to the posers in green which I can say I am not!! Shame on you for putting me in a class with the true takers in the world "
just-observing wrote on Jan 28, 2008 8:37 PM:
" Let's see here....40 some odd degrees today....as low as -13 degrees tomorrow...and you think WE can control the weather...this alone should wake you up that mother nature will do what mother nature CAN do regardless if I drink a bottled water from a plastic container. "
Teiresias wrote on Jan 28, 2008 6:03 PM:
" As for the rest of you nay-sayers, please tell me what is wrong with erring on the side of caution and creating less pollution?
Just because we CAN doesn't mean we SHOULD consume, consume, consume.
At best we are creating plastic waste that will be with us for centuries. At worst we are killing the planet. So, why not slow down our comsumtion and polluting?
Please, someone tell me why we can't have a new economy based on developing non-destructive, non-polluting energy sources.
We have made the industrial, oil-based economy in a little more than a lifespan. Just because that is the way it is today doesn't mean it always has to be this way. Only those who are profiting from the pollution will tell you that we can't change. "
Teiresias wrote on Jan 28, 2008 5:58 PM:
" So, Bibleprophecy_gibberish, have you been hanging out with Pat Robertson? Did he let you know what God told him about the election? Did he also tell you why all the other thousands of end-timers throughout the years have been wrong? Was God just messing with their heads? That God--what a practical joker! "
Nikki Beaverhausen wrote on Jan 28, 2008 5:03 PM:
" Mack, I'm not saying we shouldn't try harder, I'm just saying we alone are not to blame. Of course in a way WE are the cause of the polution coming out of India and China. We want our megalomart cheap stuff, we don't want to pay for US made so let's send the stuff off shore to be made where sweat shops are legal, emissions standards don't exist, and all the while we can say we are helping emerging nations. And, oh yeah, let's pay no attention to the impact increased volcanic activity has on global warming. Alaska was once a verdent forest, perhaps nature is just correcting the mistake of the ice age and returning the earth to its original state. There are just too many variables to blame humans in the US alone, what an arrogant people to think we can "fix" this. "
bibleprophecy_ndbpsa wrote on Jan 28, 2008 4:07 PM:
" The root cause of the environmental declines we are facing throughout the world is a fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Once one-fourth part of the earth is destroyed (Re.6:7-8) we will move forward to the next Seal events, followed by Trumpet events, followed by Plague events. The earth is on a downhill slid; it will not recover. The first four Trumpet events will destroy an additional one-third part (Re.8:7-12).
Patricia (ndbpsa ©) Bible Prophecy on the Web
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BibleProphecy
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Senior Advocate wrote on Jan 28, 2008 1:47 PM:
" Yo Mikee: Take the case of Dr. Sallie Baliunas of Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics.
She states the the Sun is a variable we cannot forget. Further she says the increase in magantism at the centor of the solar system corralates quite strongly with temperature rised here on earth. That their are some 5 million paramaters that must go into a good climate model and it would have to compute for longer than the age of the universe to know something. "
Teiresias wrote on Jan 28, 2008 1:44 PM:
" Antieverything, what a perfectly entitled, American thing to say. So when the climate gets nasty and a tornado rips aart your house or a flood strikes and wrecks your stuff the rest of us can say "tough luck" because we've done enough.
You want to talk about pigs? My guess is that you consume more in a month than most people in China or India consume in a year. "
Krusty wrote on Jan 28, 2008 1:38 PM:
" "michael" have you considered moving back here? You could finally do something about that failed law practice of yours, and, well...you know how chip hates sleeping alone... "
Senior Advocate wrote on Jan 28, 2008 1:18 PM:
" Well Big Mike; Science once was empahatic that the world was flat and woe be it to anyone who disagreed. Science once stated with equal vigor that black holes are only fiction. Anyone unwilling to look into the background and circumstances surrounding this current bevy of scientists and their evidence and also fully believe all their theories to be fact ,as claimed, has joined the society of the closed minds. Thank goodness for sincere open questioning minds that are willing to step back from the current dogma and respect the fallabilty of the human mind. "
Mack wrote on Jan 28, 2008 1:12 PM:
" Nikki and others: It is the accelerated increase in global warming over the last 150 years that has scientist's attention. This coincides with the industrial revolution and our rampant burning of fossil fuels. We have a moral obligation to future generations to do what we can. So often we hear that we don't have to worry because we won't be here. I cannot think of a greater sign of moral bankruptcy that statements of that nature. "
antieverything wrote on Jan 28, 2008 1:07 PM:
" Just for sake of argument lets say there is a global warming issue. I dont personally think we are really able to say but ... WHY ALWAYS US. I have spent time on 5 continents. We along with some, not all of Europe are always footing the bill. The Mid and far east pollute and the governments dont give a hoot.PIGS! Until there is commitment from the Chinas,Indias,etc I think we have done enough for now. "
Michael Welch wrote on Jan 28, 2008 11:16 AM:
" 'Phil O'Bates'! Dissing science again and buried here (semi-alive) in one-liner cracks with 'Krusty'! O how the mighty have fallen!... "
Senior Advocate wrote on Jan 28, 2008 10:40 AM:
" This is not to say the we should work hard to reduce pollution. The pollution we cause will result in loss of clean water and polluted air. However as to the air clean or not it will not stop or significantly reduce global warming. The main purpose for controlling pollution is for the overall health of mankind and animals. "
Senior Advocate wrote on Jan 28, 2008 10:36 AM:
" I believe that most people feel that we are in a global warming period. The concern is that mankind is being blamed for this. Please follow the money trail. A global Stock market has allready been set up for buying and selling carbon credits backed by the World Bank. This is the beginning of a major financial market. The earth has gone through the cooling and warming for eons. Our contribution is miniscule at best. The primary source is the sun and the earths physical realtionship to it and what that causes to the make up of our planet. "
rocket wrote on Jan 28, 2008 9:13 AM:
" Seems to me we can at least be talking about more wind and solar energy. It's not the end all, but at least it's better than nothing. Problem is no one wants to live next to a wind farm. Is anyone in the area specializing in installing solar panels on houses/businesses? "
Mack wrote on Jan 28, 2008 9:11 AM:
" There is no downside to making the changes to reduce global warming unless you have an extremely narrow economic view and cannot imagine living in a sustainable manner. With populations increasing exponentially, everybody's share of the natural resources is going to get smaller. American's just have an unjustly hard time dealing with less consumption. Nuclear power is not viable until we learn how to effectively and safely deal with the nuclear waste. "
Tax Justice wrote on Jan 28, 2008 8:18 AM:
" If you really believe that global warming doesn't exist, then perhaps you would have the sense to recognize that the economic costs of fossil fuels and NUCLEAR are skyrocketing. Fighting for Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energies are the only real answers to reduce the cost, waste, and consequences of terrible foreign policy that we now suffer from. Generating renewable energy creates 4-1 more jobs than fossil fuels, and energy efficiency measures have repeatedly been shown to reduce energy needs by more than 40%. I'll stand by Dorothy and anyone who has the vision and the courage to save TAXPAYERS billions of dollars. "
The Real World wrote on Jan 28, 2008 7:49 AM:
" A family of 4 will generate enough waste to fill a one ounce shot glass, in a twenty year period. "
The Real World wrote on Jan 28, 2008 7:45 AM:
" ollie, Yea you can. A family of 4 will generate enough waste to fill a one ounce shot glass. That is a huge improvement from the shoe box it took 20 years ago. We are going to nuclear power and it must happen now. It is disgraceful to waste valuable fossil fuel in addition to the pollution. "
heavy hitter wrote on Jan 28, 2008 7:25 AM:
" the earth's temperature fluctuates. these are scare tactics used by our government with great success. look for some type of "carbon tax" in the coming years. that's what they want, a brand new excuse to take more of our money. wake up. "
Nikki Beaverhausen wrote on Jan 28, 2008 6:22 AM:
" I still have questions. If the "land" (ice) bridge between Siberia and Alaska melted several thousand years ago, isn't global warming just CONTINUING, not starting? While I agree we should not be careless in our treatment of the earth, how can America do enough to offset the harm China is doing? "
ACE wrote on Jan 28, 2008 6:14 AM:
" Do they mean "glo-bull warning?". "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Jan 28, 2008 1:13 AM:
" Yeah, I'm hoping global warming will start real soon. I'm getting tired of all this shoveling and wearing winter coats. "
d0kt0r wrote on Jan 28, 2008 12:43 AM:
" lol krusty, nice. "
Krusty wrote on Jan 28, 2008 12:20 AM:
" Is there a committee that dorothy lenard isn't a member of? Perhaps if she cut down to a half dozen committes she could pay attention to her job on the CITY COUNCIL "
ollie wrote on Jan 28, 2008 12:05 AM:
" TRW, Can we store the nuclear waste in your basement? The sun and wind are free. If we maximize them, then I will consider "nuc-u-ler". "
The Real World wrote on Jan 27, 2008 11:27 PM:
" We must work hard to get a huge push for nuclear power. We should use off peak power to make hydrogen to power our cars. People time is running late, lets make this happen now! Contact all of your elected officials and demand a fast track building program for new nuclear power plants. "
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