ollie wrote on Feb 3, 2008 4:38 PM:
" Why didn't the University charge appropriately for the use of the stadium so they could budget for replacement? Or did they just blow that fund too? Some people/organizations have no problem being beggars because they were irresponsible with their money. "
North Sider wrote on Feb 3, 2008 9:32 AM:
" Gunny- There is nothing wrong with a new stadium. Although I do have problems with the guise that private boxes will be built as money generators, for the elite. I really think they could raffle one off each game to the average Joe or Jane. Since they are syphoning money off a tax that we could be reaping, after it was initially sold to us as private donation supported. The amazing non-stop growth of price tag, and cut of frills? Again rationalized. Kind of reminds me of the growth of the anti for the Community Theater 'free' shell. As I have no other reason to believe we have not been driven into crisis management at different junctures purposely. Speaking of that, did not hear from you for your free copy of the 47 page Riverside Center II contract? "
groucho wrote on Feb 3, 2008 9:29 AM:
" The stadium is crumbling and falling apart. This new complex will be a great addition to our community. I can't wait until it's done. "
Gunny wrote on Feb 3, 2008 12:21 AM:
" Sure does sound good. All you great minds out there that never get out of your house because all you can do is complain. The donation given to the UWL stadium is fantastic. You dead beats out there should get a life or shut up. As far as I can tell, most of you need to put you heads back in the sand and stay there. The stadium has needed to be replaced for years and anyone that has been there would know that. There is a great area designed to honor Veterans that will be super. I'd like one of you to tell me what is wrong with that. "
ollie wrote on Feb 2, 2008 10:14 PM:
" Now every business with more than a few employees that could hurt us by closing will want some welfare....this will come back to bite us in the butt.....Big time.
Want to know why your energy bills are so high? Because energy sucking businesses get a better sweetheart deal....you subsidize them too. "
joeemt wrote on Feb 2, 2008 8:18 PM:
" to momof3
good to see that there is someone out there that actually knows the condition of the stadium. I agree it needs replacement. I have donated and will add more in the future. Mine is not tax money. "
Momof3 wrote on Feb 2, 2008 7:27 PM:
" I generally believe in making repairs, too. The stadium has BEEN repaired and rehabbed in the past. The concrete is falling off, it is not up to code, and the track has been resurfaced and is at the end of it's life - it would have to be replaced no matter what. Resurfacing can only be done a certain number of times. The bathrooms are disgusting and the stadium leaks underneath and is full of rats. Go take a look. "
Leonidas wrote on Feb 2, 2008 6:26 PM:
" Maybe the University should give all you nonbelievers a tour of that decrepit monstrosity they call an athletic complex. It's crumbling to dust! Put down the mouse and go take a look! "
Common-cents wrote on Feb 2, 2008 4:53 PM:
" Just keep donating all that government contract money Don, in 4 years LHI will be just a memory.
You better start that emergency fund soon. "
Are you serious? wrote on Feb 2, 2008 4:21 PM:
" It has nothing to do with me thinking you are dim or not. It has everything to do with the fact that this article is about the complex at UW-L yet the majority of the posts are Weber-related. "
ollie wrote on Feb 2, 2008 3:06 PM:
" Some people can't handle the truth. They support the local political Corruption and Weber. Come clean, your future depends on it. "
what_that_too wrote on Feb 2, 2008 2:01 PM:
" Let's get this PERFECTLY STRAIGHT. Neither LIH nor Herr Weber are donating ANYTHING. : : ; You, the hapless taxpayer, are paying the entire ticket. : : : Period. : : : End of message. "
Thorn wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:30 PM:
" First it was approx 15 mil. Then approx. 17 mil. Now approx. 19 mil. My guess is this boondoggle will be close to 30 mil by the time it gets done (if it ever gets done!...can you say Bliss Road?). "Big Dig" here we come! "
North Sider wrote on Feb 2, 2008 12:19 PM:
" Are you serious?- My what a bright lad. As if I tried to sneak seomthing under the wire? Really enjoyed your insertion "besides the photo". You keep thinking that the rest of us out here are dim. You think that the picture of Weber and his gift, desire to align himself with LHI's funds, and timing are not orchestrated? I am sorry, we have a difference in opinion. I guess we are to remain quiet, on a forum that is available to give just that, an opinion, and an alternative view. "
Are you serious? wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:27 AM:
" Wow North Sider, it looks like you used the 'Copy and Paste' quite well on a post you put in here - it's the exact same one you put on the LHI article message board. How original! Again, LHI is not even MENTIONED in this article (besides the photo), yet brought up in posts. Amazing. "
North Sider wrote on Feb 2, 2008 10:18 AM:
" You need to understand this- Our City leaders have used TND 'spot' rezoning to change current codes to allow recent housing projects to be built. A zoning to be used for blighted areas. That would not include on or near campus property. Then they came up with 'Satellite parking' with minimal reflection is a joke. UWL leaders have stated aloud previously that they will look toward private landlords to take up the slack of housing needs. Then we appoint a committee to formulate new codes and standards Chaired by a former leader of the local landlord association? 'This is the way the latch on the chicken coop works Mr. Fox'? "
North Sider wrote on Feb 2, 2008 10:08 AM:
" "generate money through six private suites"? They repeat it, and the Tribune prints it? I was under the impression from previous statements that the frills were to be cut. That was before the slight of hand supposedly depicting 'frugality' in a two stage expenditure as they could afford it? That would be after they hit taxpayers up for a portion of the budget, that was supposed to be private donation funded. Corporate and elite boxes? Can you imagine, for the heavily waved State Track Meet, local school use, and other activities. How about game raffle for my City neighbors for one box, since they skimmed a tax that instead could have gone in our local coffers. "
North Sider wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:58 AM:
" Here it comes, I told you so! "a $65,000 parking lot"? We just had a 'public hearing' on campus in regard to possible Stadium parking problems. I have no memory of a $65k parking lot 'improvement'. Key word here is 'lot'. Which is a bandaid for the entire need, that they could use later as an excuse, 'they tried' but undershot it? Actually I remember a litany of present sand lots being mentioned as releif valves if they are needed. Now add to that 'possible problem' 400 displaced students from razed housing, and 500 from a student expansion project coming our way. Purposeful crisis management? "
North Sider wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:47 AM:
"
LHI is a Corp. Weber is CEO of that Corp and not sole owner. Recently a large portion of LHI was sold. I dare the Tribune to break down ownership of the company who purchased a chunk of LHI? Riverside Center owns the buildings on the river that house LHI and soon to be many 'tenants' is an LLC. These businesses are peered at legally as two seperate 'individuals' actually. The Waterfront Restaurant I'll bet is set up as another entity, and not a DBA for either LHI or Riverside. We do not know who would be the proposed operator of the Wedding/Banquet Business, there is a good chance it would be Waterfront. Although it does not necessarily have to be. They could run proceeds and sales through another all together different business. Confused?
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Cindy M wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:02 AM:
" The drawing looks nice but where is the parking? If this thing is to draw in so many people where are they going to park.
I also wonder why we have to build such a thing. "
justaguess wrote on Feb 2, 2008 9:01 AM:
" While I applaud the donations, I wonder about LGH's donation as their funds come from goverment contracts to be used for Vet's. In other words are they using thier funds for things not intended by the goverment contract award...your tax dollars, as part of the military budget??? Hummmmmmm, how many more veterans will not get the care they need for a stadium? "
The Real World wrote on Feb 2, 2008 8:32 AM:
" Does anyone else wonder why we have to tear down the old facility that would have been fine for many years? We are such a through away society. But then it is just easy money that would not have had a worth while use. "
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