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Future of La Crosse’s iconic bluff roadway unclear


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A few inches of packed snow hide the extent of Bliss Road’s wounds, but it’s only temporary cover. The wounds are there nonetheless.

In the spring — when tourists and locals typically ascend the winding roadway for the promise of panoramic views atop Grandad Bluff — the snow will have melted, unveiling the full scope of deterioration, the crumbling edges and caved-in asphalt.
In all, 10 spots along the route that hugs the bluffside have buckled under the elements and steep slope. The road has been closed since Aug. 19.

A video tour of the damaged roadway



To see the city of La Crosse’s detailed report on repairs needed for Bliss Road — play many more photos, click here.

To see a letter to the editor about the Bliss property published after the property was sold to the city, click here.


Repair costs have climbed to $1.8 million. Those who drove the route daily want to know when — if ever — Bliss Road will reopen.

But many want more than repairs: They want someone to blame.

Critics contend the trouble dates back to August 2002, when the city used federal money to improve Bliss Road.

“What they want is the city of La Crosse to take ownership for how the road failed,” said town of Shelby Chairwoman Lynnetta Kopp.

Added Catherine Mcnamara, a Shelby resident who lives on the bluff, “I just keep wondering who’s accountable?”

A Tribune review of city records from the 2002 reconstruction of Bliss Road didn’t produce an obvious culprit or “smoking gun.”

Even now, the principal players in that project aren’t trading accusations about what went wrong.

The final straw

Left alone, Bliss Road still would have failed under the heavy rains that pounded the region in mid-August, said Pat Caffrey, former director of the La Crosse Public Works Department.

That deluge took out 600 feet of Bliss Road.

While the work in 2002 may have exacerbated slope failures in the years that followed — “maybe it was the straw that broke the camel’s back,” said Caffrey — it wasn’t the primary cause, he and other involved in the project said.

Caffrey, who retired in 2005, said there’s no doubt the August landslides would have happened with or without the past roadwork.

“I would liken it to having my son’s cavities filled at the dentist and then having his teeth knocked out in a hockey game the next day,” said Tony Hutchens, the city’s assistant director of public works. “You don’t blame the dentist.”

The washouts before the August flooding, however, aren’t as easy to absolve. La Crosse officials admit the 2002 reconstruction may have had some unfortunate side effects, such as concentrating runoff in a dozen outfalls, two of which resulted in failures.

Rainfall triggered the first post-reconstruction landslide four years ago, when water flowing into pavement cracks loosened the road base.

Bliss Road had to be shut down intermittently in subsequent years while crews patched pavement, added asphalt or dumped wood chips down the hillside to stave off erosion.

In the summer of 2006, Mayor Mark Johnsrud estimated it would cost $300,000 to permanently repair washouts earlier that year.

The road was closed in late June 2007 and again in July after parts were undercut by erosion and water.

Problems on the rise

Surface erosion and landslides really intensified after the 2002 enhancements, Caffrey acknowledged. The primary problem before that had been settling under the pavement.

But La Crosse and DOT officials maintain the 2002 work was needed to stabilize a road on its last legs.

Steve Flottmeyer, a Wisconsin Department of Transportation engineer who oversaw the project, said even before the 2002 work, “the (road) was falling down.”

In 1983, the city shelled out more than $80,000 to repave the road after landslides.

Gordon Stewart, 68, was one of the blufftop residents behind that push.

“For a long time, it was a pretty good road,” said Stewart, who moved to his Fen Lockney Drive home 35 years ago. “But the traffic started to increase and some of the spots were starting to sag, and they would keep adding pavement to the road. Wherever there was a low spot, they just paved over that. That in itself will seal a road, but it was still in a questionable state.”

An estimated 2,140 vehicles used the road daily in 2002, and that was expected to jump to 3,180 by 2020. Trucks typically account for 10 percent of that traffic.

‘Severe cracking in 2001’

“A long time ago, the heaviest thing on that road was a horse and buggy,” Stewart said.

The existing pavement was between six and 30 inches thick, “exhibiting severe cracking” and “extensive patching,” according to a 2001 Jewell & Associates pavement design report.

Caffrey and Bob Schroeder, his predecessor as public works director, both said poor drainage was the root of the instability.

Existing culverts to channel water under the road were too small, Caffrey said, and often became plugged with leaves.

A 2001 study of the road’s subsurface found the underlying ground had a high moisture content and “poor soil types for pavement support.”

Nummelin Testing Services, which did the study for project design engineer Jewell, advised against widening the road or adding drainage or other repairs if it required earthwork.

The Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, too, opposed cutting further into the bluff for Bliss Road work. The DNR suggested the city instead install gutters to direct runoff away from natural drainage gullies in the slope above the road.

Consultants recommended “controlled drainage paths, such as piping or culverts, below the road to direct water away from the soil below the road.”

So in 2002, the city used $1.2 million in local and federal funds to repave about 1½ miles of Bliss Road, install curb and gutter, improve ditches, and add storm sewer, guard rails, inlets and cross drains.

Crews also widened the road in spots to smooth out some of the sharper curves, said Dale Merten, another DOT project engineer.

Stewart said he noticed cracks in Bliss Road within a month of completion. “The problem was they disturbed the subsoil,” he said.

And the new curb and gutter likely increased erosion, city officials said. While water once flowed in sheets down the hillside, the curb and gutter channeled much of it to 12 outfalls, Hutchens said.

“I think they took the cheap way out, and I think they took some shortcuts by not digging down enough to get into bedrock,” said Stewart, who has a background in mechanical engineering and serves as planetarium director at the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse.

DOT and La Crosse officials agree a better solution would have been to cut further into the hillside.

“But that’s cost prohibitive,” Hutchens said — the price tag would have been several times more than the 2002 project.

“The (2002) funding only went so far,” Flottmeyer said. “I think the city did the best they could with the funding available.”

‘Not beyond standard practice’

Stewart wants assurances that any future repairs are done to last — or not done at all. “I’m not going to spend the money again and again and again,” he said.

Though she favors repairs, Mcnamara, too, doesn’t want to see what she called another “Band-aid” put on Bliss Road. “It’s a shame that something once so beautiful, a defining characteristic of our area, has become so mismanaged,” she said.

But Caffrey sees no indication anyone can — or should — be legally blamed for the recent washouts.

“You can sue anyone for anything, but to win, you have to prove they were not following standard practices,” said Hutchens, adding an outside consultant found the 2002 construction contributed to no more than 17 percent of the damage.

“In my opinion, and in the opinion of several other consulting engineers we’ve talked to, this was not beyond standard practice,” Hutchens said.

Even with the advantage of hindsight, the 2002 design work done on Bliss Road holds up, said La Crosse Engineering Director Randy Turtenwald.

The contractor, too, acted in compliance with the plans and specifications, Caffrey said, adding that “Bliss Road was never totally stable.”

By the Numbers

Breakdown of proposed repairs along Bliss Road:

  • Site No. 1: $379,794

    Construct a retaining wall the length of the site and backfill; plant grass seed to stabilize slope; replace all pavement, asphalt curb and guardrail.

  • Site No. 2: $472,323

    Construct a retaining wall the length of the site and backfill; plant grass seed to stabilize slope; replace all pavement, asphalt curb and guardrail; install two inlets and storm sewer pipes.

  • Site No. 3: $203,814

    Place shot rock to stabilize slope; replace asphalt curb, salvage and reinstall guardrail; some new pavement.

  • Site No. 4: $206,897

    Construct retaining wall entire length of site and backfill; plant grass seed to stabilize slope; replace all pavement and asphalt curb; salvage and reinstall guardrail. Install one inlet and storm sewer pipe.

  • Site No. 5: $16,832

    Cut a 3-foot-deep by 8-foot-wide shelf to stabilize edge; backfill; replace cracked and settled pavement; construct new asphalt curb; salvage and reinstall guardrail. Add one inlet and 26-foot long pipe.

  • Site No. 6: $206,810

    Construct a retaining wall entire length of site and

    backfill; plant grass seed to stabilize slope; tie 24-inch pipe into existing inlet to channel stormwater to an outlet at site No. 8.

  • Site No. 7: $29,654

    Cut a 3-foot deep by 8-foot-wide shelf to stabilize edge; backfill; replace cracked and settled pavement; construct new asphalt curb; salvage and reinstall guardrail. Install pipe from site No. 6.

  • Site No. 7a: $9,903

    Optional: Extend work from site No. 7.

  • Site No. 8: $40,614

    Place shot rock to stabilize slope; cut a 3-foot deep by 8-foot wide shelf to stabilize edge; backfill; replace cracked and settled pavement; salvage guardrail;

    24-inch storm sewer pipe extends into this site from site No. 6 and outlets onto shot rock and flume.

  • Site No. 8a: $20,203

    Optional: Extend work from site No 8; construct new ditch inlet and 24-inch storm sewer pipe and outflow; construct grouted flume at outflow to stop erosion on downhill slope.

  • Site No. 9: $21,983

    Cut a 3-foot-deep by 8-foot-wide shelf to stabilize edge; backfill; replace cracked and settled pavement; construct new asphalt curb; salvage and reinstall guardrail;

    construct new ditch inlet and 24-inch storm sewer pipe and outflow; construct grouted flume at outflow to stop erosion on downhill slope.

  • Site No. 9a: $8,446

    Optional: Extend work from site No. 9.

  • Site No. 10: $6,316

    Cut 3-foot-deep by 8-foot-wide shelf to stabilize the edge; backfill; replace cracked and settled pavement; construct new asphalt curb; salvage and reinstall guardrail.

    Source: Westbrook Associated Engineers Inc.

    A timeline of Bliss Road

  • Aug. 20, 1885: Bliss Road is a private road, completed by owner Henry I. Bliss. The La Crosse Republican & Leader reported “what is known as the Bliss road, up Grandfather Bluff on the north side, was completed Saturday night and pleasure drivers can now ascend to the top of the bluff without difficulty.”

  • 1896: Bliss Road is purchased by La Crosse County. Maps show that Bliss Road then became part of Hwy. 2, later named Hwy. F.

  • 1912: The area becomes city property.

  • Aug. 18, 1934: The La Crosse Common Council approves improvements along Bliss Road. The stone road will be covered with crushed rock topped by a layer of tar.

  • Aug. 25, 1960: Forty pounds of black powder are used to blow away a 150-ton slab of limestone from the face of Grandad Bluff above 29th Street and Bliss Road. Cracks had grown since spring, and city officials feared it could fall.

  • July 1983: La Crosse city council accepts a $81,800 bid from Mathy Construction to resurface Bliss Road after residents complained that landslides made the road unsafe.

  • June 2002: Bliss Road from Main Street to Hwy. F is closed for pavement replacement through August.

  • May 22, 2004: Rain and flooding across the Coulee Region force the first washouts since reconstruction in 2002.

  • March 17, 2005: Crews place a mixture of dirt and fine asphalt particles in areas that eroded along Bliss Road.

  • April 26, 2005: The La Crosse Street Department patches an area of pavement about 6 feet wide by 40 feet long, which settled about 6 inches earlier in the week.

  • April 9, 2006: Heavy rains wash out a portion of pavement along Bliss Road. The road is closed through the end of April. The city spends about $80,000 on temporary repairs.

  • June 29, 2006: The road is closed again after a landslide in a different spot than April.

  • October 2006: Bliss Road repairs are left off the 2007 capital improvement budget.

  • June 25, 2007: Bliss Road is closed again after more instability is detected at the sites of the 2002 landslides; The first is about a quarter-mile south of the Alpine Inn, and the second is a third- to a half-mile south of the Alpine.

  • July 12, 2007: La Crosse Common Council approves repairs expected to cost about $350,000, with $175,000 paid by the Wisconsin Department of Transportation.

  • July 18, 2007: Bliss Road reopens to traffic with a 5-ton weight limit.

  • Aug. 15, 2007: The roadway fails 15 feet below the surface due to heavy rain.

  • Aug. 19, 2007: Intense rainfall shears off two additional sections of the roadway, bringing the total damage to 900 to 1,000 feet. The road closes indefinitely.

    Sources: La Crosse Public Library Archives and La Crosse Tribune files

    Samantha Marcus can be reached at (608) 791-8220 or smarcus@lacrossetribune.com.
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    wiseup wrote on Feb 5, 2008 9:21 AM:

    " Shelby should pay for the Bliss Road project as soon as LaCrosse returns Waterford Valley and the Gerrard Development back to Shelby's tax rolls. LaCrosse should pay for new interchange @ highway 35 and 14-61 split south of town if they expect help on Bliss Rd. Time to change LaCrosse's culture of binge spending before expecting 'suburban vultures' help. TRAFFIC CIRCLES with official city logos everywhere! More taxpayer parking ramps and skywalks to heaven will be next projects that city wants suburbs help on. Where was outrage on new restrooms on bluff @ $500,000+ and no access? "

    HonestAbe wrote on Feb 4, 2008 8:14 AM:

    " Don't yall realize, we need a new jail more than them thar fancy motorized paths.

    www.costofwar.com "

    2Hoots wrote on Feb 4, 2008 1:02 AM:

    " The cause of the road failure is no longer an issue. There should be no issue of who uses the road. The issue is: Bliss Road belongs to the City of La Crosse. Along with ownership comes certain expenses - planned and not. Should the city decide to repair and reopen the road, great! It will be the city's dollars. Should the city decide to close the road as impassible, that would be OK too (a loss for LaCrosse). However, should the road be closed, what assurances do LaCrosse taxpayers on top of the hill have in regards to fire and police services? Are measures in place to provide them the same services as before? "

    possom133 wrote on Feb 3, 2008 9:36 PM:

    " First rt2spk, Sunny days here, because if you have any reading comprehension you will see I am very aware the road belongs to the city. The main problem with people is you see what you want to and nothing else. As for petty whining you can call citizens voicing there opinions about THERE road anything you want. Willie,Willie,Willie you forgot the part about the pixies and how I will just fly out on the back of my winged dragon. Love how people seem to go off the deep end when confronted with simple sraight foreword statements. oal boys. "

    rt2spk wrote on Feb 3, 2008 8:02 PM:

    " Hate to rain on your parade possom133, but the last time I looked this is La Crosses road. If the fine governmental establishment of the city of La Crosse wasted the time and money to fix the road before, why arent they now? Again... La Crosses road = La Crosses problem. This IS petty whinning (on La Crosses part)because of the fact they are dragging this out. It is alright to ask; and when the answer is NO...Move on!!!! The next time they need a favor... Oh well, you say "remember that favor we asked you so-and-so ago???" It still comes down to it is La Crosses responsibility to fix, or abandon. Abandoning it would be a historical dissapointment to a great monument to La Crosse. "

    Willie wrote on Feb 3, 2008 7:21 PM:

    " to random annoying bozo: It is been one of their better ones lately. The mayor and city council has affectively turned the city residents against the Shelby and Medary residents. Now some of the city residents are redirecting their ire toward Shelby and somehow it is now Shelby and Medary's fault the road failed and shouldn't be fixed? Maybe Skid Mark and the Funky Bunch should take their magic show on the road to Las Vegas and make some money to pay for Bliss Road. "

    Willie wrote on Feb 3, 2008 7:13 PM:

    " Open question to possum133: Why do you automatically think Shelby and Medary residents will whine here? Is it possibly because YOUR mayor asked OUR residents to pay for YOUR road? Why on earth would anyone complain about that? Please read with a healthy amount of sarcasm! I guess maybe you think that nobody that lives outside of LaCrosse should set foot in or pass through your town without paying a fee. What would you do if the surrounding areas locked you in town unless you pay a fee to get out. Kind of sounds like East Berlin doesn't it? These blog pages are filled with comments from LaCrosse supremists. "

    random annoying bozo wrote on Feb 3, 2008 6:08 PM:

    " i have to give the city leadership some credit. they have thrown up a pretty darn good smoke screen. while everyone plays the blame game, and bickers over who should pay for it. the City sits back and avoids the real question, why doesn't the city fix the road?. the answer to that question is, they don't have the money! they have squandered, given away and in general, urinated their, er our, money away. "

    Jackson wrote on Feb 3, 2008 3:36 PM:

    " Honest Abe: You said it all! What amazes me is how they tore down all those historic buildings for modernization loosing ireplaceable architect history and they now want 38 million,15 million of it to build a new school and close 2 perfectly sound building they already have but are too stupid to realize that a modern road up the bluff would pay for itself in tourism and future developement. The new road would bring easy acess thats much safer and then Bliss road could be used as a trail again which will also boost tourism especially from biking clubs ect. "

    Moderate Republican wrote on Feb 3, 2008 3:13 PM:

    " Widening the road for hikers and bikers caused the road to fail. The city should return the road to original width, ban pedestrians and bikers and put a stricter weight limit on the road. Far too many blind corners on the road for safe hiking and biking. Hikers and bikers can use Hixon. Leave Bliss road for the petrol heads. "

    rickl wrote on Feb 3, 2008 3:02 PM:

    " I wonder if it would be feasible to fix the road well enough to effectively work as a one way road to the top. It seems like most of the problems started when it was made wider. A one way road would be a compromise that would allow tourists easier access to the park and Shelby resident’s quicker emergency services. On the way down, the current route could still be used. "

    Moderate Republican wrote on Feb 3, 2008 1:14 PM:

    " Don Weber just donanted 1M to the new stadium. Why don't Johnsrud and Weber work out an agreement for funds. Weber is not obligated to fix the road for the City's sake, but lord knows he is obligated to Johnsrud for some sweet deals! Time to cash in a favor or two. "

    Moderate Republican wrote on Feb 3, 2008 1:11 PM:

    " Johnsrud also said there is no room for expansion past Bliss road. That is not true. How many homes do you think have been built on the ridge in the last 30 years. Lots! Where do these people spend their money? LaCrosse. Although they pay property taxes to another municipality, they still contribute to the overall local economy. Tourism in LaCrosse brings in over 200M per year. Fix the road please. "

    Moderate Republican wrote on Feb 3, 2008 1:07 PM:

    " If the City decides to make it a hiking and biking trail they will loose the 1.3M. The clause to get the funds is that they must make it a working road. To make it a trail would cost the city more than 582K. Maintenance would still need to be done if either a road or a trail. "

    mindless nomind wrote on Feb 3, 2008 12:40 PM:

    " Thanks to the Tribune and reporter Samantha Marcus for this FACTUAL detailed article. Having lived here for almost 50 years, I think Grandad Bluff overlook is one of the top visitor attractions to area. So if Bliss Rd can NOT be repaired within reason, another solution needs to be considered/found. Stop the blame/bickering and find the solution, which may be a different road, Cass St being extended up bluff or even a tourist attraction trolley to Bluff top, like Dubuque and other cities have. Oh yeah, Its going to rain this spring. "

    Mack wrote on Feb 3, 2008 12:20 PM:

    " Designating the road for hiking and biking only would be a good start and suitable for other parts of town also. We don't really need to trample every viable inch of this planet with our pavement and vehicles. "

    JS wrote on Feb 3, 2008 11:36 AM:

    " Don't worry rt2skp, soon Onalaska will be in the TIF business, then taxes will go up, and people will flee to Holmen. But I have a question for someone or the tribune. When was the county F designation removed from bliss road? Ideally this should have remained a county road since mainly Shelby/Medary residents use. Now since the city has ownership of the road it should be city residents only who decide if the road stays open since it will be their money going into it. A permanent fix would cost millions and is not feasible. A smaller fix would not guarantee that the road would stay up. Eventually gravity and erosion will get to it as it has before. Do not let this road be an endless money pit like all of the other projects the mayor supports. It's time to close it. "

    6760French wrote on Feb 3, 2008 11:06 AM:

    " rt2spk is right. All I ever read on the site is complaining. While the state is attempting to get educated students to stay, part of me wants to get out of here because of this. Stupid stadium, stupid bluffs, stupid mayor, stupid snow, stupid laws, stupid students, stupid new dorm, stupid chancellor that everyone loves... that is all I ever hear from you. "

    possom133 wrote on Feb 3, 2008 10:59 AM:

    " HEY rt2spk, Please get the facts straight. La Crosse residents are not the ones whining, and with the road closed anyone going from the bluff to onalaska has a farther drive. as for walls and fantasy worlds it would seem you are in one now. "

    rt2spk wrote on Feb 3, 2008 10:40 AM:

    " Hey La Crosse; keep up this petty whinning because all that business you are losing to your poor gonvernmental bickering, is coming to Onalaska... Word to the wise La Crosse... Take care of your own problems and quite your crying. 1.8M should be made up in no time by tourism if properly marketed. But oh yeah, you are probably whinning about tourism too!!!! You might as well put up a wall all around the city... Dont let anyone in... No one out!!!! See how your little fantasy world would turn out. Because, basicly, that is what you are doing... "

    ORVIE1954 wrote on Feb 3, 2008 10:25 AM:

    " I know! Lets just raise the motel tax rate another .05%. Just think of all the visitors to the new UW-L Sports Complex that will want to go up to Grandad's Bluff. "

    Terri wrote on Feb 3, 2008 10:16 AM:

    " Here's my solution: Medary, annex the road. Create a "Bliss Road Authority" like NY and NJ's Port Authority. Sell bonds to fix the road. Then put a toll gate at the bottom of the road and charge NON Medary residents $2 to use the road.

    Now, La Crosse, think twice before you annex more property from townships, or you'll have to fix roads. Trying to charge the townships for roads in the city would be akin to having La Crescent pay for the new Cass Street bridge because most of the people who use it are residents of La Crescent! "

    joeemt wrote on Feb 3, 2008 9:36 AM:

    " to possm133, You are 100% right it is the cities road, they can do whatever they want with it.
    everything but expect other municipalities to ive them money to fix THE CITY'S ROAD. "

    HonestAbe wrote on Feb 3, 2008 8:47 AM:

    " Instead of trying to keep a relic working, why not just cut a new road that uses the base of the valley. This was constructed probably originally as an access to the quarry, period. Even then, they didn't bring the rock back down the road / logging trail, they used a tram for moving the weight.

    Let the bicyclists and hikers pay to upkeep the foot/bike path, and blaze a new, more stable road in the valley below (with proper ditches / drainage). "

    possom133 wrote on Feb 3, 2008 7:54 AM:

    " This is a open message to any one from shelby or medary who wants to whine about blame for the road. Regardless of why the road is damaged the fact is the road belongs to La Crosse and if we want to run a Dozer over the whole thing, that is our right because it belongs to us. So sorry you are upset because your free short cut has now been closed. I for one support turning the road into a multi-use trail. So people when a shelby snow plow comes and clears my alley next snowfall so my neighbors and I don't have to pay a contractor mabey I will change my mind. "

    The Moderate wrote on Feb 3, 2008 7:30 AM:

    " So PC was right. The well points could be drilled at 45 degree angle. The problem was the people doing the work didn't know how. Eventually, apparently, they gained the knowledge while actually doing it according to your post. However, he should have hired it out to someone who did know how to do it right the first time. "

    Bornfree wrote on Feb 3, 2008 12:25 AM:

    " The City of LaCrosse is much better off with Caffrey gone! He claimes to have an enginering degree, yet he was ordering city crews to drill well points @ a 45 degree angle which broke a lot of expensive bits before they could do it the right way! I think he could screw up a tour of City Hall. Now if we could rid the Clique at City Hall of about 6 more. Good Bye Larry, Curley And Mayor Moe! "

    ollie wrote on Feb 2, 2008 11:44 PM:

    " Tony Hutchens, Quote, "I would liken it to having my son’s cavities filled at the dentist and then having his teeth knocked out in a hockey game the next day,” said Tony Hutchens, the city’s assistant director of public works. “You don’t blame the dentist.”
    Your example is flawed. That example would equate to fixing the road and then having it "Bombed" by the military. ALL THE WATER WAS FORCED TO RUN BETWEEN THE ROAD AND THE HILL, SOAKING IN AND MAKING THE ROADBED LIKE JELLO!
    We have several similar roads in the area, and none of this nonsense!

    "


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