Richard Cranium wrote on Feb 18, 2008 11:17 PM:
" To BGS: And did I mention that all the LHI employees could run over there during working hours to see him? Weber is just a great guy isn't he? "
BrianGSmith wrote on Feb 18, 2008 9:15 AM:
" "Capacity crowd?"......smart move holding the rapturous rally in a small room. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Feb 18, 2008 8:25 AM:
" Hey "onlyfactsplease"....If you were a real man/woman you'd apologize to me for accusing me of not knowing my 'facts" concerning McCain and his torture vote....you told me I needed a "civics lesson.". But, the TRUTH always prevails and it is you in need of civics lessons as well as reading and comprehension lessons. McCain, lat week, voted against a bill that would make the Army Field Guide serve as the litmus test for accepted interrogation techniques. Waterboarding is not accepted by the Army. We hung Japanese soldiers for waterboarding our men......boy do you look stupid. Better change your "handle" so we won't laugh and snicker everytime you scribble future wrong opinions. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Feb 18, 2008 5:02 AM:
" Dear 'tjmurphy and aircop"....Our imperial activities in Vietnam and Iraq have no effect on my free speech.....that was taken care of during our greatest war....the REVOLUTION. It sounds tough and impressive....soldiers in Iraq are dying to defend my right to call McCain a mommas boy....but in the end, neither is true. I'll continue to speak my mind. Thank you. McCain is a short little torture lover. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Feb 18, 2008 4:58 AM:
" Dear "onlythefactsplease"...I was gone for a few days. Read your post today and was ready to put you in your place RE:McCain's hypocritical vote for torture but others living in the "here and now" put you in your place as it is. McCainb is a sell-out....he'll do anything to win, including dishonesty and trading in his honor for some evangelical votes. Nextime you wanna call me names have the courtesy to at least get one fact across. I spoke the truth, something you, obviously cannot handle well. "
joeemt wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:49 AM:
" Also, add to the plan, and congress approval, I want to know where all the money to support the programs is coming from? Maybe higher taxes on the middle class, what is left of it. "
joeemt wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:43 AM:
" to bloger,
sorry I miss read your comment. "
joeemt wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:41 AM:
" to blogger,
as ex military, I can assure you that there are American troops in both Germany and Korea. Check your facts. I know troops stationed in both countries to this day "
joeemt wrote on Feb 17, 2008 11:37 AM:
" Actually, I am tired of all these people telling me what they are going to do if elected. I want them to lay out a viable plan as to how they are going to do it. Remember, congress has to approve what ever any president plans to do. Much easier said than done. "
area male wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:48 PM:
" I'm not a lib, but I'm also not a fundamentalist, which is probably where you're confused.
Snap! "
Chip_manure wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:40 PM:
" It's great seeing you libs get in a tizzy! "
mike tellier wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:40 PM:
" MEDIA BLACKOUT BY THE TRIBUNE
Paul backers rally against McCain
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=718812 "
area male wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:16 PM:
" The "Back Talk Express" "
area male wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:12 PM:
" And for the record, McCain likes torture now: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/02/13/mccain-waterboarding-fail/
Wtf? "
area male wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:09 PM:
" Dimwits like aircop and tjmurphy give John McCain a bad rap. It's harder to vote for McCain when his supporters are flat-out ignorant. They are probably socially conservative, but their aggressive military stance is anything but conservative. They seem to have no concept of the founding principles of this country...but they love how it's being run now, which is way out of line with the founding ideals. "
area male wrote on Feb 16, 2008 7:57 PM:
" I'm not sure how the Vietnam War and the first amendment are tied together.
Apparently aircop and tjmurphy aren't either, since they can't seem to answer Blogger's question about that connection.
Free speech is in the constitution. I think military restraint is also in there. "
blogger wrote on Feb 16, 2008 7:49 PM:
" aircrop - I dont know about the status of the POWs you refer to. My point is that the US does not have - since April 1975 - active duty military forces stationed there as we do in Germany or Korea. "
Richard Cranium wrote on Feb 16, 2008 6:02 PM:
" To onlyfactsplease: Actually, McCain did vote AGAINST the bill prohibiting torture.How pathetic is that? I guess there is no limit to how much a Republican is willing to sell out to get the Rush Limbaugh vote. Also, McCain has never been really SPECIFIC as to how he was tortured the whole time he was there. He's also pretty vague on what he considers torture and what he doesn't. Just because it was "effective" doesn't mean it's humane or right. I think John McCain is damaged goods and he's also too old to be the leader of the Unites States. He's going to be the oldest President ever sworn into office if he wins. Older than Reagan. "
ollie wrote on Feb 16, 2008 5:46 PM:
" Run you idiot Rush Limbaughlaughingstockhypocritedrugaddict for president and let's just see what a moron he really is.
It just proves the Bush program...tell enough lies many times and some of the people will fall head over heals for it and like a lobotomy replace a portion of your brain with propaganda and fear.
It really sucks that people believe the lies, and deny the truth is the truth, we really should institute an intelligence test for voting. "
ollie wrote on Feb 16, 2008 5:40 PM:
" I can't believe we still have brainwashed morons that think Iraq has anything to do with 9-11.
YOUR OWN "LEADERS" HAVE EVEN CONCEDED THAT POINT! "
aircop wrote on Feb 16, 2008 5:26 PM:
" Blogger, are you sure we don't have any troops in VietNam. So what happened to all the POWs "
blogger wrote on Feb 16, 2008 4:41 PM:
" It may come as a suprise to you but Iraq and Sadddam had nothing to do with 9/11. I made no reference to going after those responsible for the tragedy - ie the Taliban and Osama- who were NOT in Iraq but in Afghanastan and Pakistan, our "ally". Terrorist attacks are reprehensible and we should respond, but they dont are not a threat to the stabiity of our governement and freedoms. Overreaction to those threats "for security" DO. BTW, we DONT have troops in Vietnam, havent since 1975. "
Just Some Dude wrote on Feb 16, 2008 3:42 PM:
" Hey blogger if you don't see how the war in the Middle East is protecting your freedome of speech, then you did not know anyone that died in the towers on 9/11 when our liberty was attacked. We may be attacked again but as long as we are in the Middle East (Which is hopefully forever, like we are in Germany, Vietnam and Korea still) we are not getting attacked from there again. Iraq turning into a productful country that is our ally will just be the icing on the cake of this war! just ask any Iraqi that is not a terrorrist. "
blogger wrote on Feb 16, 2008 2:19 PM:
" TJM - your post referred to McCain and his sacrifices - in Vietnam, not WW2. I dont think many people would dispute the threat to our safety and way of life after December 7, 1941. However our involvement in Vietnam and Iraq are totally different. There have been plenty of people who have VOLUNTEERED for service in Vietnam and Iraq - and I am grateful, but it still remains to be seen the connection between that and "protecting" our freedom of speech. Hitler and Tojo posed a threat to our republic - did Ho Chi Minh or Saddam? BGS can defend himself... . "
tjmurphy wrote on Feb 16, 2008 1:41 PM:
" Blogger, you make my point...although by taking liberty with assumptions you know nothing about. I am not a vet...wish I was...it was not the "cool" thing to do in 1972 when I was 18 years old. For the record Blogger, when one serves in the military, they serve to serve...not serve only if they agree. You need to be thankful for that my friend. FDR ran on a NO WAR platform in 1940 otherwise he would never had been elected a third term...much less a 4th. A little thing called Pearl Harbor changed his mind, as well as the anti-war newspapers across the nation at the time. If you are defending BJSmith's comments, then yes, your vial opinion is your right as well. You just can't make stuff up because it makes you feel good. "
catkiller29 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 12:52 PM:
" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHITE POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VOTE FOR HILARY
HELL YEAH VINCE! "
blogger wrote on Feb 16, 2008 12:05 PM:
" Aircorp and tjmurphy - please explain how invading and bombing a country that poses NO strategic risk to the US (whether it is Vietnam or Iraq) translates into protecting freedom of speech for citizens of the US. You seem to advocate that the only people worthy of opinions (of course, opinions that agree with yours) are military vets. It is noble to "answer the nations call" but dont kid yourself. As a nation we have involved ourselves in stupid blunders that do not serve our own interests (in fact the opposite). Freedom of speech? Yes, for all of us, like the message or not. "
Michael Welch wrote on Feb 16, 2008 12:03 PM:
" Just a click away in the 'Nation/World' section is an interesting story on McCain's 'bad language,' an aspect of his personality often obscured by that surface charm. Now most presidents had a penchant for pungent expression -- Eisenhower for instance had initially in 1953 instituted a prayer ritual before his cabinet meetings; one time a number a minutes into the meeting Ike suddenly exclaimed 'We forgot the g--d---- prayer!' (In time this 'rite' was indeed dropped.) But Big Mac is known for his abuse when agitated and his sailor's 'salty' lingo -- appropriate I suppose for a navy pilot? I guess another question must be -- is it also a residue from his terrible imprisonment, i. e. the 'suppressed' anger also just below? Hmmm... "
Michael Welch wrote on Feb 16, 2008 11:49 AM:
" Ah the unfortunate United States! So FAR from God! So close to Mexico!... "
antieverything wrote on Feb 16, 2008 11:48 AM:
" TO NOT ME: Obama is the only front runner that has stated he would offer drivers licenses to the illegals. McCain has done an about face on immigration. No surprise there
What you dont realize is that in allowing Dls for illegals that is only one step away from sidestepping the process and allowing voting without citizenship. When the Dems figure out how to get this done they will have all the minority votes locked in and we will then be the most socialist government in the world! "
antieverything wrote on Feb 16, 2008 11:35 AM:
" To Vince. Do you really believe health care is a right? Sorry but you have to earn your health care in America. Yes the system could use a tune up. But as it stands now the only people that have the right to freebies are already getting the best health care in the world. Medicare and Medicaid. "
notme wrote on Feb 16, 2008 11:26 AM:
" Facts:
ALL remaining "front runners" not only want to give amnesty and drivers licenses to a criminal foreign national force six times the size of the entire US military, they all want to bring in another 48M in the next twenty years.
Welcome to the USA, 32nd state of Mexico.
"
Michael Welch wrote on Feb 16, 2008 11:19 AM:
" The tax cut litany is of course the ol' Reagan mantra repeated; it means increasing deficits while the richest (most usually Republican donors by 'coincidence') collect the most. Clinton raised taxes (after by the way 'Read My Lips' GHWBush also had done so) and the budgets eventually were not only balanced but yielding surpluses -- which used to be the 'old fashioned' Republican way. The 'neo'-Republicans now spend like liberal Democrats but mainly on wars and those much-vaunted 'cuts' -- both which Big Mac would make perpetual it seems. But Jawn has charm and intelligence so surprisingly the GOPpers have picked him. (Wish myself it had been Huckabee!)... "
tjmurphy wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:49 AM:
" To BrianGSmith
I feel fortunate to live in a country where people like Senator McCain were willing to serve and SACRIFICE so that you continue to have the right to publicaly express your beliefs...yes even your false and vile statements are protected...and whether you believe in his political positions or not...you too should be thankful for his contributions so that you can continue to spew your venom, hate and lies with full knowledge and assurance that you have the right to. "
aircop wrote on Feb 16, 2008 8:14 AM:
" Brian do you hate all military veterans past and present or just us VietNam Vets. Enjoy your freedom of speech buddy, you don't have to pay for it. "
Gabrinus wrote on Feb 16, 2008 7:58 AM:
" I attended the McCain rally. It had a martial theme with recurring references to John McCain's prison experience to we are winning in Iraq to we will stay their until we win to expanding the military.
Yet, we were supposed to believe that somehow Sen. McCain was going to balance the budget while conducting the Iraq war, other conflicts as necessary, and expanding the military. The $35B he promised to save on earmarks will be swallowed up in one month in Iraq.
Your numbers don't add up Senator. For smaller government , lower taxes, liberty, an end to unconstitutional wars, and stopping illegal immigration there is no choice except Ron Paul.
"
onlyfactsplease wrote on Feb 16, 2008 7:58 AM:
" BrianGSmith you are wrong. McCain didn't vote approval for torture anymore than Obama practices the beliefs of Islam. If you're trying to say he did because he voted for the 2006 Defense Budget Bill, then you need a civics lesson. Did you selectively miss the McCain Amendment after the DTA? Where do you come up with your crap? People...be intelligent voters! There are many accurate sites to help determine the best candidate for your platform. Accurate voting records can be found at www.senate.gov and www.votesmart.org "
thomas44 wrote on Feb 16, 2008 7:12 AM:
" Impressive. It takes news of an LHI invitation to see McCain to figure out that its Veteran CEO may be backing another Veteran?
Yes, let's continue to bash Weber. Let's scrutinize every move LHI makes. Let's give other profitable companies more reason why La Crosse is so open to downtown development, economic growth & job stability.
The real issue here we should be focusing on is welfare because if we continue to treat these profitable companies who want to set up shop in La Crosse with such disdain, we'll all need to be collecting our food stamps. "
vince wrote on Feb 16, 2008 6:03 AM:
" screw mccain. i'm all for hillary. her health plan is excellent. all the people who can't afford health care now will get it. they'll just garnish your wages to pay for it. sounds good right? "
BrianGSmith wrote on Feb 16, 2008 3:26 AM:
" Great point Mr. Cranium. Will Weber let LH1 employees free to attend Obama's speech? Did those who left work for McCains speech punch out or did we US Taxpayers pay for their attendance? It is exciting, in a way, to have some a rotten example of Corporate Welfare and gov't good ol'boy crony waste in our Front yard.....don't it make us all feel we are truly part of Bushed America now? "
BrianGSmith wrote on Feb 16, 2008 3:07 AM:
" Straight talk express my "foot". McCain, along with the rest of the Republicon Senators, just voted their approval of TORTURE. The one issue McCain held solid due to his story of being shot down bombing civilians, held as a POW, tortured and offered a release, he refused, because his Daddy was Admiral of the ships surrounding Vietnam. The VC didn't publicly offer to release anyone in the war exceptt McCain...because he comes from an imperilist family and he wants his crown now. The torture FLIP_FLOP renders McCain back to looney, unstable status in my book. "
Richard Cranium wrote on Feb 16, 2008 12:14 AM:
" I heard that the LHI employees could go over during working hours to see him. I guess Weber is supporting McCain... what a surprise... "