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Published - Sunday, March 16, 2008
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A school-by-school look at the building referendum numbers
By Autumn Groom | La Crosse Tribune
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These school-by-school breakdowns provide key facts about each school and indicate to what extent each site would be affected by the referendum questions on the ballot April 1. Some teachers travel throughout the district and serve more than one building; however, they were only counted at one location for this chart. The figures were provided by the La Crosse School District and are estimates from a facilities study done for the district by Plunkett Raysich Architects. HIGH SCHOOLS
Central/La CrossroadsPRINCIPAL: Tom Barth
STUDENTS: 1,313
TEACHERS: 96
ADDRESS: 1801 Losey Blvd. S.
CONSTRUCTED: 1967
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1988, 1995, 1996
SQUARE FEET: 286,550
SITE ACREAGE: 18
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1995
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: 18 years
SAFETY
ENTRANCE/OFFICE REVISIONS: $200,000
ADDRESSABLE FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $10,000
EMERGENCY RESPONSE COMMUNICATION: $16,000
INTRUSION ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $28,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $55,000
STUDENT DROP OFF AREA: $45,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $362,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $362,000
Logan/La Crossroads
PRINCIPAL: Scott Mihalovic
STUDENTS: 1,080
TEACHERS: 80
ADDRESS: 1500 Ranger Drive
CONSTRUCTED: 1979
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1987, 1994, 1996 and 1997
SQUARE FEET: 210,920
SITE ACREAGE: 34.1
BOILERS: Three, installed in 1994, 1995 and 1995
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: 18 years
SAFETY
ENTRANCE/OFFICE REVISIONS: $30,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $28,000
PARKING LOT LIGHTING: $30,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $55,000
STUDENT DROP OFF AREA: $125,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $276,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $276,000
MIDDLE SCHOOLS
Logan
PRINCIPAL: Troy Harcey
STUDENTS: 445
TEACHERS: 52
ADDRESS: 1450 Avon St.
CONSTRUCTED: 1939
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1957, 1962, 1971, 1979, 1986, 1998
SQUARE FEET: 164,170
SITE ACREAGE: 6.1
BOILERS: Three, two large boilers in stalled in 1979 and one small boiler installed in 1998.
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: One year on the large boilers, 18 years on the small boiler
SAFETY
FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $206,000
EMERGENCY RESPONSE COMMUNICATION: $8,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $28,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $43,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $293,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILER AND PIPING REPLACEMENTS: $2.2 million
AIR CONDITIONING EXPANSION: $675,000
INSTALL DIGITAL TEMPERATURE CONTROL SYSTEM: $250,000
HVAC TOTAL: $3.125 million
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS
BATHROOM AND LOCKER ROOM REMODEL: $77,000
ELEVATOR AND STAIR TOWER ADDITION: $520,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS TOTAL: $597,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $4.015 million
Longfellow/SOTA II
PRINCIPAL: Penny Reedy
STUDENTS: 607
TEACHERS: 57
ADDRESS: 1900 Denton St.
CONSTRUCTED: 1939
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1946, 1965, 1973, 1988, 1997
SQUARE FEET: 122,220
SITE ACREAGE: 4.1
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1939
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
EMERGENCY EGRESS LIGHTING: $15,000
ADDRESSABLE FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $153,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $28,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $43,000
STUDENT DROP OFF AREA: $20,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $267,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILER AND PIPING REPLACEMENTS: $1.7 million
ADD CENTRAL CHILLED WATER: $500,000
AIR HANDLING UNIT REPLACEMENT: $100,000
INSTALL DIGITAL TEMPERATURE CONTROL SYSTEM: $185,000
HVAC TOTAL: $2.485 million
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS
BATHROOM AND LOCKER ROOM REMODEL: $15,000
KITCHEN EXPANSION: $66,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS TOTAL: $81,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $2.833 million
Lincoln
PRINCIPAL: Larry Myhra
STUDENTS: 432
TEACHERS: 42
ADDRESS: 510 S. Ninth St.
CONSTRUCTED: 1924
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1958, 1973, 1991, 1997
SQUARE FEET: 98,480
SITE ACREAGE: 2.5
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1968
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
EMERGENCY LIGHTING: $17,000
EMERGENCY RESPONSE COMMUNICATION: $8,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $28,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $33,000
STUDENT DROP OFF AREA: $29,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $123,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILER AND PIPING REPLACEMENTS: $1.4 million
ADD CENTRAL CHILLED WATER: $400,000
AIR HANDLING UNIT REPLACEMENT: $100,000
AIR CONDITION COMPUTER ROOMS: $15,000
INSTALL DIGITAL TEMPERATURE CONTROL SYSTEM: $150,000
HVAC TOTAL: $2.065 million
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS
BATHROOM AND LOCKER ROOM REMODEL: $11,000
KITCHEN EXPANSION: $66,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS TOTAL: $77,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $2.265 million
ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS
Roosevelt/Coulee Montessori
PRINCIPAL: Harvey Witzenburg
STUDENTS: 245
TEACHERS: 21
ADDRESS: 1307 Hayes St.
CONSTRUCTED: 1923
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1931, 1938, 1954, 1971, 1972, 1996
SQUARE FEET: 47,060
SITE ACREAGE: 3.3
BOILERS: One, installed in 1968
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
FUTURE: Would be closed if building referendum passes
Franklin
PRINCIPAL: Jerry Berns
STUDENTS: 214
TEACHERS: 21
ADDRESS: 1611 Kane St.
CONSTRUCTED: 1955
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1973
SQUARE FEET: 40,850
SITE ACREAGE: 4
BOILERS: One, installed in 1955
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
FUTURE: Would be closed if building referendum passes
Emerson
PRINCIPAL: Regina Siegel
STUDENTS: 308
STAFF: 26
ADDRESS: 2101 Campbell Road
CONSTRUCTED: 1939
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1956, 1972, 1984, 1992
SQUARE FEET: 57,600
SITE ACREAGE: 3.5
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1939
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
ENTRANCE/OFFICE REVISIONS: $23,000
EMERGENCY LIGHTING: $12,000
FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $72,000
EMERGENCY RESPONSE COMMUNICATION: $8,000
INTRUSION ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $18,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $50,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $191,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILER REPLACEMENT: $800,000
CENTRAL CHILLED WATER ADDITION: $225,000
PNEUMATIC TEMPERATURE CONTROL SYSTEM: $90,000
HVAC TOTAL: $1.115 million
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS
BATHROOM AND LOCKER ROOM REMODEL: $11,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS TOTAL: $11,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $1.317 million
Hintgen
PRINCIPAL: Mark White
STUDENTS: 351
TEACHERS: 31
ADDRESS: 3505 S. 28th St.
CONSTRUCTED: 1968
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1971
SQUARE FEET: 61,476
SITE ACREAGE: 8.5
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1968
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
EMERGENCY EGRESS LIGHTING: $12,000
FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $77,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $18,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $24,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $139,000
HVAC
COMB COIL UNIT REPLACEMENTS: $750,000
RETROFIT WATER PUPMING SYSTEMS: $125,000
CONTROL SYSTEM REPLACEMENT: $95,000
REVIEW/REPLACE PIPING: $3,000
HVAC TOTAL: $973,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS
BATHROOM AND LOCKER ROOM REMODEL: $142,000
WINDOW REPLACEMENT: $130,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS TOTAL: $272,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $1.384 million
State Road
PRINCIPAL: Dave Gluch
STUDENTS: 294
Teachers: 27
ADDRESS: N1821 Hagen Road
CONSTRUCTED: 1957
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1959, 1969, 1989
SQUARE FEET: 50,746
SITE ACREAGE: 10.5
BOILERS: One, installed in 1969
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
ENTRANCE/OFFICE REVISIONS: $12,000
FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $64,000
EMERGENCY RESPONSE COMMUNICATION: $8,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $18,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $18,000
STUDENT DROP OFF AREA: $40,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $168,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILER AND PIPING REPLACEMENTS: $725,000
PROVIDE CENTRAL CHILLED WATER SYSTEM: $225,000
DIGITAL TEMPERATURE CONTROL SYSTEM INSTALLATION: $80,000
HVAC TOTAL: $1.03 million
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS
ELEVATOR AND STAIR TOWER ADDITION: $100,000
CLASSROOM ADDITION: $1.05 million
KITCHEN EXPANSION: $50,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS TOTAL: $1.2 million
SCHOOL TOTAL: $2.398 million
Summit
PRINCIPAL: Dirk Hunter
STUDENTS: 324
TEACHERS: 36
ADDRESS: 1800 Lakeshore Drive
CONSTRUCTED: 1954
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1972
SQUARE FEET: 58,000
SITE ACREAGE: 9.5
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1954 and 1972
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
EMERGENCY EGRESS LIGHTING: $12,000
ADDRESSABLE FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $73,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $18,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $23,000
STUDENT DROP OFF AREA: $47,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $181,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILER AND PIPING REPLACEMENTS: $825,000
PROVIDE CENTRAL CHILLED WATER SYSTEM: $350,000
DIGITAL TEMPERATURE CONTROL SYSTEM INSTALLATION: $95,000
HVAC TOTAL: $1.27 million
SCHOOL TOTAL: $1.451 million
Hamilton/SOTA I
PRINCIPAL: Nancy Matchett
STUDENTS: 250
TEACHERS: 22
ADDRESS: 1111 S. Seventh St.
CONSTRUCTED: 1961
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1984
SQUARE FEET: 46,200
SITE ACREAGE: 2.5
BOILERS: One, installed in 1961
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
ENTRANCE/OFFICE REVISIONS: $197,000
EMERGENCY EGRESS LIGHTING: $12,000
EMERGENCY RESPONSE COMMUNICATION: $8,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $18,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $21,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $264,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILER REPLACEMENT: $150,000
RETROFIT HOT WATER SYSTEM PUMPS: $20,000
CENTRAL CHILLED WATER ADDITION: $275,000
HVAC TOTAL: $445,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $709,000
Southern Bluffs
Principal: Mary Lin Wershofen
Students: 398
Teachers: 42
ADDRESS: 4010 Sunnyside Drive
CONSTRUCTED: 1992
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: None
SQUARE FEET: 70,400
SITE ACREAGE: 8.5
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1992
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: 15 years
SAFETY
FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $71,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $18,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $23,000
STUDENT DROP OFF AREA: $15,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $135,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS
BATHROOM AND LOCKER ROOM REMODEL: $15,000
URGENT FACILITY NEEDS TOTAL: $15,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $150,000
North Woods
PRINCIPAL: Jane Morken
STUDENTS: 354
Teachers: 34
ADDRESS: N2541 Sablewood Road
CONSTRUCTED: 1992
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: None
SQUARE FEET: 68,800
SITE ACREAGE: 10.9
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1992
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: 15 years
SAFETY
ADDRESSABLE FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $69,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $18,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $22,000
STUDENT DROP OFF AREA: $50,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $167,000
SCHOOL TOTAL: $167,000
Spence
PRINCIPAL: Nancy Sikorsky
STUDENTS: 407
Teachers: 38
ADDRESS: 2150 Bennett St.
CONSTRUCTED: 1953
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1955, 1962, 1973, 1992, 1994, 1996
SQUARE FEET: 62,660
SITE ACREAGE: 7.7
BOILERS: One, installed in 1953
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
FIRE ALARM AND STROBES: $79,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $18,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $23,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $128,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILERS AND PIPING REPLACEMENT: $875,000
PROVIDE CENTRAL CHILLED WATER SYSTEM: $200,000
INSTALL DIGITAL TEMPERATURE CONTROL SYSTEM: $95,000
HVAC TOTAL: $1.17 million
SCHOOL TOTAL: $1.298 million
Hogan Administrative Center
SUPERINTENDENT: Jerry Kember
STUDENTS: 0
ADDRESS: 807 East Ave. S.
CONSTRUCTED: 1921
ADDITIONS/RENOVATIONS: 1948 and 1983
SQUARE FEET: 53,000
SITE ACREAGE: 4.2
BOILERS: Two, installed in 1948
BOILER LIFE REMAINING: None
SAFETY
EMERGENCY LIGHTING: $5,000
FIRE ALARMS AND STROBES: $67,000
EMERGENCY RESPONSE COMMUNICATION: $8,000
ALARM SYSTEM: $8,000
CAMERA SYSTEM: $13,000
DOORS, LOCKSETS AND HARDWARE: $18,000
SAFETY TOTAL: $119,000
HVAC
STEAM BOILER AND PIPING REPLACEMENTS: $750,000
ADD CHILLED WATER: $215,000
REPLACE AIR HANDLING SERVING AUDITORIUM AND GYM: $80,000
INSTALL DIGITAL CONTROL SYSTEM: $85,000
HVAC TOTAL: $1.130 million
BUILDING TOTAL: $1.249 million
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B wrote on Mar 31, 2008 4:22 PM: " Thanks 'Never Cease..' - although I don't appreciate your previous comments about BS and Aquinas (I went to both of those fine schools and my kids will go there too). My point is that it is very easy to vote no on this for selfish reasons, but a yes vote is saying yes to investing in our community. I just hope that people consider reasons beyond selfish ones. And if they do vote no, I hope that they take responsibility for that vote and demand that their legislators quit increasing the burden on our public schools if they are going to continue limiting the funding to them. "
Never cease to amaze me wrote on Mar 29, 2008 8:16 PM: " Right on the money B...Educate yourself on both sides of the argument and make an educated vote. Don't vote no because of the tax increase, vote no because you truely believe these repairs are not needed and will not benefit the community. VOTE YES for the kids and community. The future of La Crosse is in it's schools. Keep our schools strong and our community up-to-date. 100 year old schools don't cut it in the 21st Century learning environment. VOTE YES "
B wrote on Mar 27, 2008 3:01 PM: " For those that were unable to attend LADCO's Economic Forum this morning to hear Jamie Vollmer speak, I urge you to go to his website (www.jaimevollmer.com). I encourage you to review this information (especially the tab labeled "The Burden"), and then consider voting yes on the referendum issues next week. If you choose to vote no, then I urge you to contact your legislators to tell them to stop increasing the responsibilities of schools without giving them a way to fund it. But until we as citizens stop putting that burden on our schools, we need to support them with a yes vote on Tuesday. "
Never cease to amaze me wrote on Mar 17, 2008 5:04 PM: " In my opinion if they build a new school they should include the District administration into that building and close Hogan. Tear it down and put some houses in and add to the tax base, just my two cents on the matter. "
Gunny wrote on Mar 17, 2008 2:37 PM: " Why not forget all the money for Hogan. Why do they need $80,000 for a gym with no students. Close it down, They could lease a building for a lot less, they are big empty buildings all over town. It would cost less than the up keep of the old building. Kemper could use a smaller office as most of the time he is gone on taxpayer paid trips anyway. They want to spend $1.2 million on the old building when they could sell the land and use that money towards the schools and buy a smaller building or lease one for a lot less. That would probably be using common sense and we all know that is lost when someone is elected or hired for a high position. "
Never cease to amaze me wrote on Mar 17, 2008 1:15 PM: " Whats the matter Lloyd, you looked up info about the state mandated 3.8% and saw I was right and now you have no comeback. Go sit by your dish....Good boy. "
Never cease to amaze me wrote on Mar 16, 2008 10:12 PM: " Get real, you have a very good point
Lloyd...look into it. The state mandates a 3.8% package increase. Package includes healthcare retirement and all the other fill ins. The school district doesn't pull numbers out of the air and say here is your raise. If health care rises too much then monetary raise goes down. It is all negotiated by unions. Which in my opinion should be left for corporate america and not in the school system. "
Get Real wrote on Mar 16, 2008 8:52 PM: " In the 90's when everyone was getting good wage increases and bonuses and health care cost were stable no one complained about teacher pay/benefits. Now that the private sector is riding GWB's corporate greed agenda and giving little or no wage/benefit increases to their employees people bring out the difference in benefits. Everything in life cycles. Sooner or later these companies will get sick of getting losers working for them and up the ante and pay a decent wage/benefit to their employees and this b#ll Sh#t will be a thing of the past. The whole thing is about health care and sooner or later we will have national health care if corporate america doesn't end their greed. "
JS wrote on Mar 16, 2008 8:31 PM: " How nice of you to believe that I do a poor job because I did not get a raise. My company had less contracts last year forcing a freeze in pay. The school district is not for me. It's not because it would be a horrible place to work as I know many district employees who love their jobs. The school district does not have jobs in my field and I enjoy the field I'm working in. I never said I was against the longevity and safety of schools. Bring back the maintenance and safety referendum without the new school and I will vote yes for the safety and longevity of our schools. I agree teacher benefits are not as good as administrators but their benefits still make up for their lower pay. Wisconsin still attracts great teachers because their benefits are among the best in the country. "
Lloyd Christmas wrote on Mar 16, 2008 8:31 PM: " Never cease: Now everyone that doesn't agree with you is an "uneducated fool"? The LaX school district will find out soon enough how many fools voted "yes" and how many with common sense voted "NO"...Nice spin with the 3.8% raise that teachers in the district automatically get also...Let them bargain their raises and see what happens...Might get that big fat raise they always wanted or they might NOT.. "
Never cease to amaze me wrote on Mar 16, 2008 7:38 PM: " JS sounds like maybe your employer doesn't think you do a good job then. Go work for the school district then and stop complaining. This referendum has nothing to do with benefits and salary, it has to do with the safety and longevity of the schools. If you nay sayers would stay on topic but you can't because you know the facts, the facts are that the schools are old and need work. if your employer didn't give you a raise for 5 years so that they could build a new office building I am pretty sure you would quit. Do administrators have awesome retirement...yes....but the rest of the teachers, custodians, cooks, and non-union employees DON'T, so quit trying to use that as leverage. I love uneducated fools like you. "
Kate wrote on Mar 16, 2008 6:50 PM: " A comparison between private religious schools and the public schools is not helpful. Private schools do not have to education every student in their district. Many students who go to private schools and need special education get their education from the public schools. The public school district has to provide transportation, space and teachers for them as well. The BS congregation decided to spend the money on the perfectly functional church and priest's quarters instead of spending the money on the school. That, of course, was what they valued, what they decided to spend their money on. "
JS wrote on Mar 16, 2008 5:37 PM: " Private sector employees receive raises all the time? I want to know what company you work for and can I get in? My company has not given me a raise the last two years even though last year I completed more projects than ever. My benefits are no where near as good as those in the public sector either. I wish I could retire at age 60 and know that I get a large chunk of my pay and insurance for life. How many private companies offer that anymore? I cannot think of any around La Crosse that do so. If teachers want to get a pay increase so their pay is more inline with the national average that is fine with me, but if they want average that means they need to cut back their benefits to the average as well. "
Never cease to amaze me wrote on Mar 16, 2008 2:50 PM: " Concern, why do you assume if you are gay you have HIV. At most businesses a joint checking or savings account is all you need, it isn't just a public sector thing. Do the math, the benefits and pay equal benefits and pay. I know when healthcare went up a few years ago, teachers received no monetary raise. How is that fair. I am not a teacher and that would make me mad, private sector people always get raises. When was the last time you went 2 years without a raise. I feel sorry for my friends that are teachers. "
dbl lung wrote on Mar 16, 2008 2:30 PM: " This referedum stinks almost as much as the Governor's proposal to have state college tuition based on mom and dads income!! Your typical group of democrats at work again. Tax and spend. Tax and spend!!! "
Concern wrote on Mar 16, 2008 1:45 PM: " Never cease- You could not be more incorrect. You talk like a person with a wooden head. Anti-gay? You do not know a thing. I could be Gay and HIV positive. Besides it has nothing to do with disparities, and all paying for what a few receive. If we reverted back to employee/employer WRS contributions, cease the post retirement health benefits, and required joint owned deeded and titled property for domestic partners we would have plenty of funds available for the education of our children. School employees would still make more and have better benefits than the average private sector worker. I!!!, am the only one who, "seems to care about himself"? Shameless "
Never cease to amaze me wrote on Mar 16, 2008 1:32 PM: " Concern, your kids must have gone to BS, you can tell by all the anti gay remarks you make stating that heterosexual partners get in on the health benefits. You are a very close minded individual who only seems to care about himself. Why don't you look into how many rich people that send their kids to private schools donate money and then see how much money was donated to the public schools system, adjust it for enrollment numbers and you will see that maybe if there were no private schools to go to that the public schools would not have to go to referendum all the time. I could send my kids to Aquinas but I choose not to because it is all about money and how big your SUV is there. "
Concern wrote on Mar 16, 2008 1:26 PM: " Pinky- Not one sentence in your post makes sense. You can run but you can not hide. Take my posts to a big person and they might explain it to you? BTW, they can retrofit parts for all these aforementioned Boilers at any time. Seek the truth! "
pinky wrote on Mar 16, 2008 12:54 PM: " Concern: What exactly is the point you're trying to make to me? City of La Crosse employees aren't 'frugal' like BS? They're overpaid whiners because they want updated buildings and programs? The students at BS are more wealthy and what, better? I bet BS custodians couldn't find replacement parts for their 1939 boiler either. But I guess they can just ask the wealthy parents of the students there to fix that problem. "
concern wrote on Mar 16, 2008 12:07 PM: " irish_frog- Shame on you, "whiny elderly". Statements like that make you and your stance seem ignorant, as both sides of this issue winces from thoughts and people like you. "
concern wrote on Mar 16, 2008 12:02 PM: " Pinky- Blessed Sacrament School was built in 1938 and the Boiler is original! Attended by the largest contingent of students with the wealthiest parents in our City. Now that brings up a new term, 'FRUGAL'. I can guarantee you that they are not paid from top to bottom what Lacrosse School employees receive. Although the CCS employees families eat, sleep in warm beds, contribute to their community, operate with happiness, and are paid/benefited in line with the rest of the working class private workers in this City. Now that is a fact! "
concern wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:54 AM: " Here are a few more numbers to consider-
My 86 year old WWII highly decorated, always worked a career in HVAC, union shop steward neighbor receives $740 from S.S. The taxes on his house are very near $300 per month. We are driving the the poor and elderly out of their homes while we pay school secretaries $19 per hour plus, 11.7% for retirement, health care for heterosexual friends if they obtain a checkbook, and post early retirement health care from 55-65 worth $150k on up? At the same time Regents have recently paid their own private business secretaries in the $12 per hour range. Relevant, and absolutely shamefilled. There is something wrong here. It does not seem to be 'all' about education? "
ToeJam wrote on Mar 16, 2008 11:42 AM: " State road --STUDENTS: 294 --SCHOOL TOTAL: $2.398 million
ARE YOU NUTS?
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mjr wrote on Mar 16, 2008 10:44 AM: " Hey Jerry please come up with a differnt plan that closes State Rd. school. How much money have you spent on all the doctors kids? Maybe its time for a recall "
irish_frog wrote on Mar 16, 2008 10:33 AM: " It will be interesting to see if the whiny elderly and crazy libertarians essentially prevent young families from moving to La Crosse by gutting the educational system. I hope these pass. "
Yellow media watch wrote on Mar 16, 2008 10:25 AM: " Go ahead...Take all my money!!!
Save the little children!!!
I don't care if you misappropriated
funds or were just plain dishonest
with yourselves and the taxpayers...
we must save the children!!!
The next time you screw up and need
more money you will have to hit up
someone else, I'll be gone, I can't
afford to stay here. "
pinky wrote on Mar 16, 2008 7:48 AM: " I'm amazed at how old some of these boilers are at our schools! Some are from 1953, 1948,1939!?! We need to have something to keep the buildings warm in the winter. How do you even find replacement parts for a 1939 boiler if it breaks down? I bet you don't, you have a cold building that kids can't have school in. We need to spend some money here, darn the tax increase or not. "
Krusty wrote on Mar 16, 2008 5:47 AM: " Sorry, us taxpayers just can't afford it. Find the money somewhere else. "
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