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Published - Thursday, April 17, 2008

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UW-L students consider more stadium aid


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Officials trying to raise $2 million by Friday for the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse stadium turned Wednesday to UW-L students for more help.

The University of Wisconsin-La Crosse Found-ation asked the UW-L student senate to allow $750,000 now earmarked for another part of the project to be shifted to stadium construction.
After several hours of debate, the senate passed a resolution late Wednesday that supports reallocating the funds and sets a student referendum on the matter for April 29.

The vote was 27-0 in favor, with two abstentions.

Such a show of student support sends a good message to prospective donors, said Mike Desmond, UW-L development officer.

The foundation needs the additional $2 million to keep stadium work on track, after bids came in $2.3 million above what had been projected for Phase 1 of the UW-L Veterans Memorial Athletic Complex project.

Construction must start later this spring to be completed in time to host the WIAA State Track and Field Championships in spring 2009.

UW-L students passed a referendum in February 2006 pledging $2.5 million in student fees to the project.

That referendum included reallocating $750,000 in reserve funds for Recreational Eagle Center improvements to the strength-training center portion of the stadium project.

When the stadium project was divided into two phases, the $750,000 reverted back to the Recreational Eagle Center reserve fund unless the Phase II strength-training facility came into fruition, said Fred Ludwig, president of the UW-L Student Association.

The resolution passed by the senate Wednesday specifies there be a written agreement with the UW-L Foundation that it will continue to raise money toward the strength-training center.

Several students Wednesday opposed reallocating the funds, saying the matter was being too quickly rushed through.

Some commented it wasn’t fair for the foundation to come back to the students.

“It is not our fault that their fundraising efforts fell short,” said student Jeffrey Allen.

But other students pointed out the money was needed now.

“They have seven days to raise $2 million,” said student senate member Jake Rome. “If it is rushed for them, it should be rushed for us.”

Festival Foods owner Dave Skogen, a co-chairman of the fundraising committee for the stadium project, and Logistics Health CEO Don Weber encouraged the senate to support the funding shift.

Weber said he plans June 7 to start a annual motorcycle ride to raise money for the stadium project and scholarships for veteran students.

KJ Lang can be reached at (608) 791-8226 or klang@lacrossetribune.com.
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Donatello wrote on Apr 21, 2008 8:42 AM:

" Joe,
You are a blind self-serving political hack that has nothing to add to this discussion so you attack others that have wisdom in these things and know more than you do.
That student fund was not intended for these purposes, it has been hijacked. "

joe student wrote on Apr 20, 2008 10:08 PM:

" Donny, you need to come back to the real world and stop making asinine comments which are based not on facts but your own prejudice towards UW-L. Nothing you say really seems to have any relevance or factual merit whatsoever...sorry. Why don't you try and give us something that we can believe? "

Donatello wrote on Apr 18, 2008 6:48 PM:

" The University even has a person with staff on payroll to keep these student leaders in line and obedient.
How's that Joe blow? "

Donatello wrote on Apr 18, 2008 6:47 PM:

" I was an elected and re-elected respected member of that Student Senate.
I watched the transition from the money being used for students to being finessed by administrators to fix budget holes and fund pet projects that should have been budgeted by the legislators in Madison.
I have heard a lot of OPINION from people here, I was there and questioned this past nonsense with futility.
Promises were made, arms were twisted, propaganda was used, student leaders were oo'd and awed with "celebrity", "community leaders", and state" political visits to placate them. The same thing this time with Weber, Regents, Skogen, Ring, etc, etc, making their celebrity pitch to these budding politicians and malleable, minds on the Student Senate. These people can easily make you or break you in the business world...they have big connections...do I have to spell it out for you?

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StatesideGunner wrote on Apr 18, 2008 10:35 AM:

" Students everywhere certainly appreciate your insults there Donnie and Randomino. Of course student's aren't capable of forming their OWN, highly developed opinions. Those kids are just too darn stupid aren't they.

Why is everything such a travesty with you guys? Can't ANYTHING just be what it truly appears to be? Nobody is trying to scam anyone here. This is life, things change and tough decisions need to be made. "

just the facts wrote on Apr 18, 2008 8:33 AM:

" I was convinced of the appropriateness of this effort but it is fast becoming a sewer project. Now, we have an administrator claiming to be joe student, blogging on company time , and cataractjack, who apparently is completely unaware that the city and county have pledged $1000,000,000 of his tax dollars to this project. Unbelievable! Yes Tribune it seems we have an outbreak of , BEDBUGS! "

joe student wrote on Apr 17, 2008 10:49 PM:

" Donny, you say a lot of interesting things however you have never been able to back them up with anything substantial, such as reasons for why you say what you say. Anyone can make absurd claims, which you are good at, it's proving those claims which is difficult and what you have been unwilling to do. I never said I was impartial either, I just stated why I think this stadium is important to both students and the community and why it was not absurd for the Foundation to come and ask the students for the money they did. And Donny, cut the BS and (try) to give us some reasoning for all of your prior comments. "

Donatello wrote on Apr 17, 2008 9:47 PM:

" Wow
I think we just heard from a future current/future politician...maybe governor!
Cut the doublespeak and bull Joe...you have been scammed and you are not impartial. "

joe student wrote on Apr 17, 2008 9:34 PM:

" UW-L Students should care about the WIAA track meet, and I do, because it brings tons of high school students from around the state to campus, many of whom don't just excel at their track events but also academics. The meet gives them an opportunity to get a glimpse of what UW-L has to offer and helps to increase the number of outstanding students which we have entering as freshmen each year. As the quality of students here increases, the reputation of the university continues to rise only helping stengthen my diploma and its wording "Graduate of the University of Wisconsin La Crosse." On a different note, the new stadium will only add to the attractiveness, functionality, and reputation, which benefits students and the community. "

RanDomino wrote on Apr 17, 2008 3:50 PM:

" I highly doubt that "Joe Student" is really a student. Why should UWL students care about the WIAA track meet? "

Yellow media watch wrote on Apr 17, 2008 2:55 PM:

" A million for an Architect!!!!!!!!!!
These people are morons and waste money!!!!!
The Track meet people are in on the boondoggle scam too!
Gotta spread the dough around you know..grease all the palms. "

StatesideGunner wrote on Apr 17, 2008 1:58 PM:

" "due to their p*ss poor planning"

Seriously? I think the funding group did everything that they needed to do to get this project completed. The fact that they need an emergency influx of $2.36 million isn't down to their inability to plan correctly. The architects' responsibility is to design a stadium that fits within the financial constraints laid out by their client.
Is your suggestion that they were supposed to defy the advice they'd been given by their architect (whom they'd paid nearly a million dollars) and by the state?
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joe student wrote on Apr 17, 2008 1:13 PM:

" Wakeup, wakeup, the WIAA said they were going to move the track meet if a new stadium wasn't built. I agree that there are a lot of great students in the area, the university is setting itself apart as the outstanding university in the state and so is only accepting outstanding students. Donny, the stadium project is two years in the making, so what do you mean by poor planning? Also, what tough questions need be asked and how was the bidding limited? Are your comments from facts or assumptions? The University was put in a time crunch, that happens, so they asked students to contribute money that was already allocated to the stadium. Also, if you read the article, the students require the Foundation continue to rasie money for Phase II of the stadium to get the fitness center that was asked for. "

Mack wrote on Apr 17, 2008 12:51 PM:

" Sports already gets more than it deserves. Why stop now? "

lets face it wrote on Apr 17, 2008 12:43 PM:

" I think Uncle Dave should kick in the extra couple mill. I sure hope somebody does. I'm getting sick of watching him whine about what we need to do. Next thing he'll be standing in front of Festival with a can! "

wakeup wrote on Apr 17, 2008 12:20 PM:

" To Joe S. - Do you think the state track meet will leave without a new facility? As for recruiting students from other parts of the state - I think there are plenty of great students from this community who can't get in to UW-L because there are too many from far away who do. If we are to have regional universities (especially important with high transportation costs), then let students attend state universities in their own regions. In a nutshell - you didn't convince me one bit. "

wakeup wrote on Apr 17, 2008 12:16 PM:

" Yes, let the students pay! This is absurd! Students - JUST SAY NO! Or negotiate a reduction in tuition and fees. "

RanDomino wrote on Apr 17, 2008 11:22 AM:

" I hope this stadium chokes to death. Let Oshkosh or whoever waste THEIR money on sports. And it's sick that our millionaires are spending all this money on entertainment while we have poor and homeless and thousands who can barely make ends meet. We should boycott all the Skogen, Roesler, Weber, and whoever else's business interests so they stop running La Crosse County like their private FIEF! "

Donatello wrote on Apr 17, 2008 10:24 AM:

" Yo Joe,
They're running this by you as an "emergency" and fast track due to their p*ss poor planning, incompetence, corruption in limiting the bidding and the fact that they don't want anyone to have time to ask tough questions.
They are ripping off the students for an expense that these Elites should be paying for.
MAKE IT A LOAN...DONT BE FOOLS!!!
WAKE UP! "

Joe Student wrote on Apr 17, 2008 9:44 AM:

" Let's get something straight, the stadium is an important project for both the students and the community. Does no one care that in the weekend of the state track meet, millions of dollars are funneled into this community along with thousands of students who come experience our campus (many of which who decide to come back later)? Also, the students had already earmarked this money for the stadium, just a different piece of the stadium, and if the stadium doesn't get built all the money that students put forth is void, the track meet is gone, and everybody loses. "

DutchBoy wrote on Apr 17, 2008 9:15 AM:

" Leave it to Doyle to create an atmosphere where his big wig construction donors and his union thug buddies drive up the cost of a simple project! Get me a non-union out of state contractor, hard working Mexican subs and you'd have twice the quality craftsmanship at 3/4's of the price. You voters, ha! your chickens are coming home to roost! Not God bless Wisconsin, but God d*mn Wisconsin. "

IslandFatBoy wrote on Apr 17, 2008 8:13 AM:

" Here is the truth. The reason for the added cost for this project are due too stringent specs, time-lines, and huge time-line fines. Literally chasing many bidders away. Leaving the possibility of 'spoon feeding' a contractor like Riverside, or an over zealous leadership and Architect? I know for a fact that many contractors peered at the bid and closed them back up and walked away. This is what happens when you have bureaucrats involved in construction projects. Cronyism or surreal expectations. "

IslandFatBoy wrote on Apr 17, 2008 8:07 AM:

" I see it another way. Just an added tax on those parents. "

Yellow media watch wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:37 AM:

" This is the equivalent to stealing money from your
little kids to go golfing, or a Texas tournament.
The students should demand that it be a LOAN, not
a give-away. They have already given waaaaaaaaaay
too much for building projects to enhance the
University. Which they can't take with them. "

cataractjack wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:33 AM:

" I hope they didn't sucker in the local taxpayers for pay a penny for it. Just like Miller Park or any stadium. Not one penny should come from the tax payers. What they did in San Diego after the people voted down a tax for the stadium they taxed the airport and local busninesses. It sickenings me the average joe blow some how ends up paying for theses stadiums big or small. They then charge us to park our cars - to go inside the stadium - $7 beers-$5 hot dogs, etc,etc, this all while a left handed reliever pitches to one batter in the 8th innning and makes 3.5 million a year. I love sports but they are becoming a joke and the people are suckers to pay to see them. "

The Real World wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:30 AM:

" Is there anyone out there that doesn't think that these decision makers have yet to archive a third grade mentality. "

Drael wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:18 AM:

" So this stadium is at what now...about $10 million more than originally estimated? How much more money will they need? None of this money should be coming from students. The university is there to provide education, not to house sporting events. There are a lot better ways that millions of dollars could be used on campus. "

just the facts wrote on Apr 17, 2008 6:31 AM:

" Rickey , you contribute nothing to the subject. Go back to bed and get up on the other irrational side! Oh, thats right your bed oniy has a left side! "

just the facts wrote on Apr 17, 2008 6:26 AM:

" I'm not so sure that this is a good idea. It's on the lower end of the ethics scale. While it seems plausible one speaker would support this type of shady maneuver, certainly not the other! It would be a shame to let enthusiasm for this project to stain public images! Of course the students will comply, but with a sour taste in their mouths. If you can't raise $250,000 now, how will you raise it once the urgency of starting this project has passed? Bad play shakspere! "

rickey wrote on Apr 17, 2008 6:23 AM:

" Republican inflation is the "buzz word" of the Bush years and the suffering continues "


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