Howaboutus wrote on May 7, 2008 5:35 PM:
" I love that this group is now speaking or '50-100 year pay back' for these green improvements. They just wanted not too long ago to tear down the County Admin building because they needed to run mechanical services, and the garage bays floors were in disrepair? My Goodness, talk about talking out of both sides of your mouth. "
bailey58 wrote on May 6, 2008 8:51 PM:
" You most certainly do have a short fuse don't you Mr. Magney! "
Darwinism wrote on May 6, 2008 8:03 PM:
" Forget the $187k for a piece of paper to hang on a wall. Put it into the actual equipment making it energy efficient. As for the recoup. on the money by tourism dollars from 1000's of counties coming to look: "build it and they will come" may work in a Neveda desert but doubt we'll have to build a new airport for the influx of travelers coming on the "national energy effecient jail tour". "
Yellow media watch wrote on May 6, 2008 4:04 PM:
" Won't LEED certification bring in tourism to the
area by way of the thousands of counties that
might wish to provide an energy efficient jail
alternative to their own taxpayers?
For you angry mobs that are against anything positive in this, do you realize that up to 1/2 the jail population has not been convicted (and may not be) in a court of law...but you are too ignorant to see the facts, until you or one of your own end up there...or are you perfect? "
Reid Magney wrote on May 6, 2008 4:00 PM:
" When it comes to opinions, I quoted Maureen Freedland in favor of LEED certification and John Medinger in favor of LEED-like (or should I say LEED-lite). The other supervisors mentioned were offering factual information, not opinions. "
Reid Magney wrote on May 6, 2008 3:54 PM:
" Bailey -- Erickson was the only one who spoke against both resolutions, which makes him kind of irrelevant in this debate. Ray Ebert offered an amendment to reduce the price tag of the $630,000 LEED-like resolution by $75,000 by eliminating some stormwater management (which would reduce parking space), showers for people who bicycle to work, and some indoor air quality management. But in the end he withdrew it, so there was no vote. I suppose I could have turned around and quoted Mike Tellier, but it looks like he's got his own soapbox now. "
bailey58 wrote on May 6, 2008 3:39 PM:
" Wow thanks, bad you didn't quote more of those in the paper about those opposed to LEED Certification. Oh wait, you only print what your favorites have to say like Doylie and O'Malley and Hampson! Nice try but your still slanted! "
Reid Magney wrote on May 6, 2008 2:27 PM:
" In the limited space I had last night, I quoted people on both sides of the debate -- LEED certification vs. green features without certification. For all practical purposes, the few supervisors who are against doing anything for more energy efficiency are sitting on the sidelines in this debate. If it makes y'all happy, Supervisor Bobby Erickson said he'll vote no on both resolutions because it's changing what the previous board told the public it would do. "
rfield wrote on May 6, 2008 9:32 AM:
" mike tellier: Thanks for the link to the new blog. I can usually tell an unbiased, reliable news source by the use of "environmentalist wacko!" "
Willie wrote on May 6, 2008 9:24 AM:
" Just the facts, to clarify, probation and parole leases office space in two locations in LaCrosse, downtown and on the south side. The new addition was designed to add space for justice sanctions and probation and parole offices. That way all of the major components of LaCrosse County's criminal justice system would be under one roof. The county wanted to add more state money to their coffers instead of it going to whoever holds the leases now. It would have been nice if they got a commitment from the state before they got this far into the project. "
dbl lung wrote on May 6, 2008 8:29 AM:
" This is sounding more and more like a waste of taxpayer funded money all the time but on the other hand if the county does not make a better living area for prisoners then the only ones that will benefit will be the attorneys after there is another suicide. It sounds like a bad reason to build but for a lot of families a good attorney and money are good enough to replace a dead family member. This is what the county is attempting to avoid. Whether it works I guess we will see IF the new addition HAS A JAIL in it. "
just the facts wrote on May 6, 2008 7:23 AM:
" Wait just a minute here! How much does the state pay to lease space in our jail? It sounds like this was and is an ongoing practice. Was the past lease money used to pay back taxpayer funded bond money to construct the existing jail? Will the new lease money be used to pay back new construction taxpayer funded bond money? Or is it all going into the," GENERAL FUND "? O"Malley will assure us that the lease money is a pittance, but is there an audit entry we could look up? "
just the facts wrote on May 6, 2008 7:09 AM:
" Heir Medinger; Your "JOB" as I see it, is to build the best facility possible, to serve the needs of your constituency's. This money is NOT a gift!It represents the sweat and blood of taxpayers. For every extra $300,000, thats one less prescription drug for our seniors, one less meal for the poor,and robbery of much needed funds from our school children. It's time to quit coddeling the prisoners. You of all people should know that does'nt pay back! "
The Real World wrote on May 6, 2008 7:06 AM:
" The bottom line is will this pay for itself? I have a better idea, just give them cold water, instead of hot water! Give them a little incentive not to come back. No, this is not cruel, this is simply a little deterrent. My neighbor can not afford hot water, his heater failed 4 years ago, and just can't fix it. "
Nikki Beaverhausen wrote on May 6, 2008 7:02 AM:
" Hey Sully, I checked out the sight. It's interesting that the first building up is some tiny building in BRAZIL? Are these guys for real or just really new? And HOW MUCH savings is all this expense going to save? I'm not against green or saving energy but the initial cash outlay makes me ask the question, how many years of savings will it take to recoup the cost? Will the building still be usable by then? Or will it again be time for a new building? "
Sully wrote on May 6, 2008 6:49 AM:
" $187,000 just for paperwork. Look up LEED certification. The U.S Green Building Council is NOT connected with the government in any way. They are a private "non profit organization". They certify themselves to certify buildings at a huge cost. Stinks of a scam. Tell you what I will make energy saving suggestions for $100.00. If implemented I will certify the building Sully green for $1.00. "
Mack wrote on May 6, 2008 6:36 AM:
" At about 1% of the cost of the building, this doesn't seem like a huge decision. Our buildings and homes are huge consumers of energy and it's great that the city is taking a lead that needs to be followed by all new construction. Today's homes are too much like an SUV, extremely impractical when it comes to energy consumption. Hopefully this will spread to residential. "
Yellow media watch wrote on May 6, 2008 12:40 AM:
" bailey58,
I like the banter and debate on here like most
people, but what is your point? Name calling and innuendo don't give us much to debate.
What is your beef?
The story makes sense: Like long term energy
savings versus high energy bills year after
year makes sense, especially if we are
expecting our politicians to be frugal...not
cheap.
The last jail was a joke, 40' high ceilings for
what...Jail birds? Stupidity and belligerence
Remember the City and their Center addition had
1/2 million dollars left over, instead of
saving the money they blew it on a stupid sky
walk nobody needed or wanted.
"
mike tellier wrote on May 6, 2008 12:36 AM:
" Tired of the same old liberal local news source? Then checkout the new la crosse political blog
http://lacrossewatchdog.blogspot.com/ "
bailey58 wrote on May 5, 2008 11:35 PM:
" What a surprise Reid Magney only quotes those he likes in the paper, or as he would say, " those of the Doyle majority!" That must mean everyone else are not, "team players" according to Doylie and Magney? Once again nothing more then another slanted article Mr. Magney, way to go! Now tell me does Doylie tell you what to print in advance, or does he just write these poor excuses for news articles for you? "
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