HonestAbe wrote on May 16, 2008 6:10 AM:
" Willie, facts are facts. I don't believe info from one person ... I've heard it from various people. The no smoking, and no pillow ... I've heard from different sources. People hit you up for empty toilet roll tubes, so they can have a bigger 'pillow'.
Smoking, would you want to be around a bunch of non-smoking smokers for an extended period? Not me. Things are strained in there, jail is to deprive you of your freedom, not your basic needs.
There could be a smoking area, or offer some type of cessation product to curb the jitters. "
Willie wrote on May 15, 2008 11:55 PM:
" In my experience with criminals, they will all tell you a sob story for your pity if you let them. I suspect Theguy probably works in the jail. His story sounds like the same story I hear from others that work there. HonestAbe, maybe you should tour the jail before you stick your foot in your mouth, or talk to someone that works there. "
HonestAbe wrote on May 15, 2008 10:45 PM:
" Theguy, I think you are off beat.
I have talked to too many people that told me what up inside, to believe you over them.
Ask the sheriff about conditions, he'll boast about the mistreatments as 'deserved'.
mm hmm "
Theguy wrote on May 15, 2008 9:24 PM:
" Honestabe, you don't have a clue as to what goes on in the jail. Every inmate is given a pillow when they are in the housing area. They also get a clean towel and washcloth twice a week along with clean linens on Sundays. The women do not receive Nicorette. They get to play volleyball or basketball twice a week. They also have the option of attending aerobic exercise classes. That sounds really unfair, doesn't it? There is a reason that people come back to jail over and over. It's because they are treated too well and it doesn't put fear into them anymore. It's more like a place to hook up with your buddies. "
Bumper wrote on May 15, 2008 8:52 PM:
" I think it is time for another of the "Genius" raffles. Welcome to the 'big boys world' O'Malley. It is a little harder than consolidating a program that was logically headed in that direction by itself. You have got a lot of high paid talent in house, and hired. All the money spent on studies, apparently they forgot something? This is going to be a joke, I cannot wait. An overpaid pseudo intellectual bureaucrat, and a divorce lawyer. Generals Contractors?, I cannot wait. "officials were a little disappointed". You gotta love it. PS- Whee was the p&L on the raffle BTW? "
HonestAbe wrote on May 15, 2008 8:27 PM:
" dbl lung, the inmates are mistreated, you try sleeping with a roll of toilet paper as a pillow and see how your back feels the next day.
I've never been in, but that just sounds cruel and unusual. That's just one example of the mistreatment and conditions that are sub-par.
I can just imagine being in there, with a bunch of smokers that are going through withdraw (women get nicorette, not the men tho), and have really bad conditions. Jail isn't suppose to be fun, but livable, which, I don't think this one is. No wonder people are stringing themselves up. "
HonestAbe wrote on May 15, 2008 8:23 PM:
" I wonder who does the estimating on projects like this, they're always off, and it's always more.
So, lets say that's my job, I could say it's going to cost $29m, then as the close of the project nears and I'm 3million off, it has to get done at that point, and getting the extra loot to get it done isn't going to be a problem.
Whoever is doing the estimating should show some accountability and have to cover it themselves if they're off, then you'd see more realistic estimates. "
dbl lung wrote on May 15, 2008 8:13 PM:
" If "The Big O" is disappointed in the bids for this first small project wait till the bids come in for the big project. $29.5 million will never buy what LaCrosse County wants. (In fact did you know when this is all done LaCrosse county will only gain about 30 bunks total. Big price tag for such little gain isn't it?) If the bids are $100,000 over the original $1 million dollar price tag for the small project I am thinking $35 million for the big project is not out of context. Maybe "The Big O" can do his sweet talking to some of these people that actually think we treat our inmates badly and raise the extra money through donations. GOOD LUCK!!! "
mytwocents wrote on May 15, 2008 7:21 PM:
" Work your magic Mr. O'Malley. That's what we pay you for. Best of luck. "
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