wiseup wrote on Jul 8, 2008 10:23 AM:
" No bar EVER forced anyone to drink or drink too much. Instead of cracking the whip, over-enforcing laws, entrapment teams and dozens of crappy tickets that ALL GET DISMISSED or CHARGES DROPPED, maybe this city needs to crack the whip on the drunks and the QWIK TRIPS! "
friangel wrote on Jul 2, 2008 12:11 PM:
" Where were those who were parked on Third Street and not headed to the bars? I'll tell you because I was one of them. We were out walking around the streets admiring all the awsome machines parked along the few blocks reserved for us. We were visiting with others who were doing the same thing. But because we were not in the bars does not mean we didnt drop plenty of money while we were participating in the S&S event. We had an awesome weekend right here in my own home town. "
Myturn wrote on Jul 2, 2008 8:45 AM:
" I beleive the figure I beleive most is 25,000 participants. There certainly were not 25,000 participants on third street. Actually many of those parked on third street were not in the bars, were not headed for the bars, and were not drinking. Instead?, the inference all too many times is that people that drive motorcycles party hardy, drink while they are driving, and are irresponsible and downtrodden. The vast majority of participant's did not or do not drink while driving. Matter of fact they do not tend to imbibe any more than any slice of our population. Marlon Brando is dead, Cities and woman were not invaded, and the proof was in the pudding. Now hold up Coon Creek to this event! "
Myturn wrote on Jul 1, 2008 2:46 PM:
" Do you think that these people represented the "right" kind of clientele? AS our Mayor stated on Reynold's WIZM interview. Do you think any of these people had Tattoos from shops like Kirch's list waves off for placement in downtown areas? Do you think that this brought in more money than the all to often hard "State Track Meet"? Do you think it was quieter than the UWL sponsored Air Show. Do you think the sponsor brought more new jobs to the area than Riverside Center II? That had to be fast tracked for impending LHI employee growth needs, that you people have had an amnesia bout regarding. Funny, no brooks brothers suits, no pennies in the loafers, no sweaters around the neck, and no snoots, Just plain old money filled commerce with no taxpayer creative help. Damn it all? "
just al wrote on Jul 1, 2008 11:44 AM:
" Is this just obvious to me? What is not going on right now? College! that is right if college was in session there would have been incidents, guarenteed. "
Willie wrote on Jul 1, 2008 10:02 AM:
" Good point doctor9, maybe bars should hand out punch cards and if they get so many drinks cut them off (like bar owners would go for that). You would think that the way drink prices have gone up nobody could afford to get that drunk (and they wonder why there is a war on drink specials). I don't see and end to the binge problem anytime soon. Seems like every generation tries to out-drink the last. It is like anything else, the older generation embellishes the tales of their drinking accomplishments and the younger generation thinks they are "tougher" and tries to show up "ole pop"! Kind of like the Family Guy episode where Peter goes to Ireland to find his real father and his new-found father won't accept him until Peter drinks him under the table. "
Willie wrote on Jul 1, 2008 9:53 AM:
" Most bikers I know wouldn't think about getting blitzed and getting on their bikes. (Yes some of them might have a beer or two and ride) Many of them would be more likely to get behind the wheel of their car before they would get on their bike. Drinking and driving a car is foolish, drinking and riding is suicidal. We definitely have more drunks in town for Oktoberfest weekend. Many of them walk back to campus or ride the drunk shuttle back to their hotel room (after stopping at the Northside Festgrounds of course). I could have predicted less trouble for this event. "
doctor9 wrote on Jul 1, 2008 9:51 AM:
" I would suggest spending more time/money on the source of the problem (like arresting bar employees that serve minors and already-overly-drunk patrons), rather than chasing the tiger's tail (like patrolling Riverside Park for drunks after dark). Prohibition is not necessary, but there seems to be less "cutting off" of impaired people than there could/should be. "
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