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Racial undertones in play in election


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BEAVER DAM, Wis. — Undecided voter Allan Peck says he’s open to Barack Obama as the nation’s first black president — “as long as he’s not prejudiced.”

Peck, a 50-year-old repairman from Beaver Dam, said the Democratic Illinois senator’s race won’t be a factor in whether he’ll vote for Obama or his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain of Arizona. Instead, he’s trying to figure out which candidate is most likely to keep his promises.
But Peck, who is white, said there’s underlying concern among some of his white friends about what an Obama presidency might mean for them.

“With a colored president, they’ll think (government) will lean more toward the colored people, and we’ll be a minority,” Peck said.

Race has been a constant, if sometimes muted, motif in this historic campaign in which Obama, the son of black father from Kenya and a white mother from Kansas, has become the first African-American in line to win a major party’s presidential nomination.

Political experts say Americans are more ready now than ever before for a black

president. A national Gallup poll in December found only 5 percent of the respondents wouldn’t vote for a candidate who is black compared with 54 percent in 1958.

But new data from Wisconsin raise the possibility that the racial attitudes of state voters could play a role in whether Obama wins the state’s 10 electoral votes in November.

Twenty-three percent of 506 likely voters — 91 percent of whom are white — polled in June by the UW-Madison political science department and WisPolitics.com said “the country has gone too far in giving African Americans special legal rights.” Nearly half, 48 percent, said blacks “often use race as an excuse to justify wrongdoing.” And 16 percent said blacks “have less ambition.”

Sample sizes for all racial groups but whites were too small to gauge opinions of those subgroups.

Getting at race

Charles Franklin, a UW-Madison political scientist who helped conduct the poll, said those results show how race shapes how people view the world and one another. Franklin said the questions served as a substitute for asking respondents directly if they wouldn’t vote for Obama because he is black, a question unlikely to yield accurate responses.

The poll shows other factors — such as party identification, political ideology, education level and whether a person believes the country is headed in the wrong direction — are more important than race in determining whether a voter is likely to choose McCain or Obama, Franklin said. And racial attitudes alone aren’t swaying votes, he said.

But those attitudes suggest that, in combination with other factors, views of Obama’s race could cost him possibly 2 percent of the vote, Franklin said.

In a state like Wisconsin, where recent presidential contests have been won or lost on the margins, that could be significant.

Al Gore, the Democratic former vice president, won Wisconsin by just 5,700 votes in 2000 and Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., won the state by 11,400 votes in 2004 — victories of less than 1 percent in each case.

“The big mystery of the year is how much of the vote does (Obama) lose based on race?” Franklin said. “The other question is, how much does his election campaign bring voters around to thinking race isn’t that important for them?”

The polling data

A separate June poll of 1,537 likely Wisconsin voters by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute asked voters directly whether race would be a factor in whether they’d vote for Obama.

Four percent said they would be less likely to vote for him because he’s black — although another 4 percent said Obama’s race made them more likely to vote for him. Ninety-one percent said his race wouldn’t matter. Of white voters surveyed, 5 percent said they would be less likely to vote for Obama because of his race, while 3 percent said they would be more likely.

Nationally, a sharp contrast has emerged in how whites and blacks perceive Obama.

A New York Times/CBS News poll released last week found that 83 percent of black voters in the U.S. had a favorable impression of Obama compared to 31 percent of white voters. Blacks are also far more likely than whites to consider Obama patriotic, to say he cares about the “needs and problems of people like” me, and to say he says what he believes instead of what he thinks people want to hear.

Sixteen percent of the whites surveyed said they think Obama would favor blacks over whites, compared with 4 percent of blacks who believed that.

The issue of race in this year’s campaign is “an undercurrent and a constant presence but it’s not front and center,” said Bill Galston, a former aide to President Bill Clinton and a senior fellow at the liberal-leaning Brookings Institution who studies political polarization.

“It emerges into high relief at certain moments, and every emergence of race into this campaign has been a surprise,” he said.

Race could tighten

Though recent polls show Obama with a big lead over McCain in Wisconsin — between 9 and 13 points — Franklin and other experts expect the race to tighten over the summer. And given the outcome of the 2000 and 2004 races, Wisconsin is still seen as a key battleground state.

So what voters think of Obama in Beaver Dam — which is 94 percent white and where Kerry took 50.3 percent of the vote — could be a bellwether for the rest of Wisconsin.

The polls show most people won’t take Obama’s race into account when they go to the polls. More than a dozen potential voters interviewed last week in Beaver Dam said they wouldn’t either, and most said they haven’t heard their friends or neighbors say Obama’s race would be a factor in their vote.

“I think it’s the greatest thing that people are opening up and not letting prejudice get in the way,” said Bob Frankenstein, 72, of Beaver Dam, a retired prison building and grounds superintendent and Korean War veteran who is leaning toward Obama. “I hear a lot more people open to change than ever before.”

His friend, Bill Hollihan, 78, an Army veteran, said he was surprised he hasn’t heard any comments about Obama’s race.

“I’m amazed because I always thought Beaver Dam was more of a conservative place,” said Hollihan, who is leaning toward supporting McCain.

But others said Obama’s race is among the factors being considered by their friends, neighbors and acquaintances.

“I’ve heard some comments (about Obama’s race) but they’ve been in the minority,” said Aaron Onsrud, 32, a Beaver Dam alderman who has been talking to voters as he campaigns for the 39th Assembly district seat. “There will be some people that race will affect, but on the whole people are willing to see past that.”

Mark Pitsch is a reporter for the Wisconsin State Journal in Madison.
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HonestAbe wrote on Jul 21, 2008 3:14 PM:

" Amom, right on.

Until all the color based groups evaporate, we'll never have equality.

All these programs/groups/professional whiners (jackson/sharpton) keep it alive.

Either we need to install white only groups (omg!), or have some equal white whiners to counter the black ones that keep it alive.

There was a day when MLK was needed, but after things mellowed out, everything should have melled together and those programs should have gone -POOF-. "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 21, 2008 3:11 PM:

" reality check, lol, its you that is racist if you think my ghetto talk has a color !! I know whites that talk ghetto too,, see, even you're a racist to some degree.

LOL "

RealityCheck wrote on Jul 21, 2008 2:47 PM:

" "Dat der dundint makes no sense, know what im sayin bro?" That was a nice racist way to try and impersonate black people, HonestAbe. Sounds to me like you're the one obsessed with putting race into everything. Also, learn how to spell; it shows your ignorance even more. "

Amom wrote on Jul 21, 2008 2:13 PM:

" The truth is that race will play a huge role in this election. But not with white voters. We will vote for or against based on the issues. Most of the black voters are going to vote for Obama ONLY because he is black (or biracial). I bet a lot of black people who wouldn't normally vote will now. Racism is still around today, because black people won't let it go. They are racist and they need racism to blame all of there problems on. I am not racist, but I am tired of the double standards. With all of the groups they have, affirmative action, the negative comments they can make, using the "N" word. Affirmative action is discrimination against white people. "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 21, 2008 1:05 PM:

" oh, and im not voting this year.

We can vote for McSame and keep Bushys policies in place, or vote for Obambam and watch our tax dollars cater to more black only programs above and beyond; the united negro college fund, affirmative action, NAACP, just to name a few.

This is going to be better ... anyone could do better, yes ... but when choosing, both candidates look scary in their own way to me, and I don't want to be to blame for giving them the seat. And yes, I would leave america, but no other country takes immigrants as easily as america, THEY have standards. "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 21, 2008 1:01 PM:

" You and I agree that yes, a better job can be done,,, but if we put an arangotang or chimp in office and he could do better too, so, thats a bad argument. We could put Chelsea clinton in office, and she could hire her college buddies and do a better job.

It's not me being slow, its you not opening your eyes. Obama brought race into this, plain and simple. I was going to vote for him until he said Washington has to do more for blacks! Dat der dundint makes no sense, know what im sayin bro?

He should have left skin color out of it,,,imagine the uproar if McSame said he was going to give more benes to white people only! Ohhhh the horror. "

heels82 wrote on Jul 21, 2008 4:03 AM:

" HonestAbe-

That shows how slow you are...the "gotsta" was a rip on black people, or the way you think they speak...don't be so smug....you need to wake up and stop attempting to put a race card on the election and vote for what is going to make America a better place to live in...it can't get any worse that what it is now with troops dying daily, gas prices at a high, and
smug arrogant people like you posting ignorant comments on a blog....get a life and make a difference in America by voting and stop bringing people down "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 20, 2008 11:55 PM:

" Harley, I know, I hit my head on the way to the floor from laughing so hard! LOL

The 'gotsta' was suppose to be wrong allstar! LOL

No, I'm not as bad as any racist can get,,, the worst would be to ELECT one!

I am aware that others use public assistance, no problem. I am against BObama opening more funds for blacks based on their skin color, THAT is racist.

Hopefully heels82, you drank some coffee and are awake now. "

harley wrote on Jul 20, 2008 11:26 PM:

" heels wrote, "Nice grammer,"

Oh, forget it...too easy. "

heels82 wrote on Jul 20, 2008 9:29 PM:

" HonestAbe-

You're just as bad as any racist can get....gotsta? Nice grammer, don't forget that there are more people on welfare and other assistance, than just blacks.....take a look around your community for a reality check "

kevin wrote on Jul 20, 2008 9:22 PM:

" First, need this be said again and again....Obama is not black...he is multiracial. Second, By claiming only the black heritage he is exhibiting 'racist' behaviours and this prompts a person to doubt his ability to be neutral on the so called race issue. Third, by claiming to be the first black president isn't Barack taking the US back to pre civil war times where a persons race was determined by the amount of 'black', native american, or other blood, by law. Aren't we a 'color blind' society? "

Phil O'Bates wrote on Jul 20, 2008 7:51 PM:

" One question I would like to see Obama asked on a live nationally televised setting is "Are you for the government paying reparations to Blacks for American slavery?"

I wouldn't be surprise for him to get away with a song and dance about the injustices that slavery caused without actually saying yes or no. If he says he's for reparations, he loses more Democrats like Honest Abe. If he says he's against reparations, he'll get a definate backlash from his 90% black backing. "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 20, 2008 7:36 PM:

" R A, you were right on the money, now the article doesn't even show on the homepage !

How lame,,, gotsta protect people.

Don't forget trib ...... free speech and free press are a right in this country :/ "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 20, 2008 8:57 AM:

" Thanks Phil ;) "

Mack wrote on Jul 20, 2008 8:50 AM:

" Race is only an issue for the smallest of minds and hearts. "

R A wrote on Jul 20, 2008 8:29 AM:

" Consider yourself lucky to post anything negative towards blacks in this paper! I say Obama is a racist, and has the same feelings about whites as I do in some cases about blacks. I am tired of the welfare, compensation, reparations and free everything. Why can't I voice my opinion in this post? Because the tribune is bias as most papers are. He can say it but I can't. He is from Chicago, where you can't go into certain neighborhoods, as many in this country, you may not come out alive, and who will be the first to tell you this? A black person! Lets not kid ourselves, touchy feel good crap should be off the table when it comes to electing a leader of this country! "

Phil O'Bates wrote on Jul 20, 2008 7:06 AM:

" Honest Abe,

I have to compliment you on your postings. We don't see eye to eye on every issue, but most of your posts hits the nail(s) on the head(s).

The big one IMO is that Obama brought race into the discussion by attending a church that preached race hate for 20 years.

On the issue of words like racists and colored, these are PC or nonsense issues. Personally, I'm offended when people put Africa or Asia or Irish or whatever in front of American. It makes us more divided. Besides, most Black Americans are no more African than I am Irish. Even in Africa, they don't considers Black Americans Africans.

I agree with Teddy R. who avocated against hyphenated Americans. "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 20, 2008 6:12 AM:

" Barack would have been very smart to never mention this, I see it as grossly racist. I don't care about the color of the candidate, but when they start making decisions about what people to help based on skin color, whatever that color may be, that's racist.

Im not a racist, and am proud of that, but since he has said this, I had to take a stand on this issue of color, so, now he's made me one ... I have to see color now.

Dumb move Barack. "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 20, 2008 6:03 AM:

" This is the article I'm referring to of the 'meeting';;;;;;;


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080715/ap_on_el_pr/obama_blacks


He should have left that out of the race, imagine the uproar if McCain said he was going to give benefits to whites, based solely on skin color ......... talk about the s**t hitting the fan, eh?!?

McSame is a war monger that wants to waste money, and now Obama wants to take my guns away and give more to people that already have opportunity and dont take advantage of whats available. Forget 'em both,,, in my opinion. "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 20, 2008 6:00 AM:

" I was all for Barack, on the issues. Keyword... was.

Recently he stood up and demanded that blacks do better for themselves .......... blah blah blah.

At the same meeting, he also said washington needs to stand up and do -more- for the blacks. WHAT?

They already have NAACP, UnitedNegroCollegeFund, Affirmative Action, just to name 3 off the top of my head. Those programs are based on skin color alone, and are wrong. Until programs like this are aboloished there will always be racism.

Obama brought race into the political race, so, I like/dislike each candidate the same at this point and saved me the trouble of having to vote. "

HonestAbe wrote on Jul 20, 2008 5:57 AM:

" heels, you're right, it was just a thought and a waste of your keyboard.

Colored is just a word,,, if it was negative, dont you think the NAACP would have changed their name by NOW? So, it can't be that offensive. "

heels82 wrote on Jul 20, 2008 5:43 AM:

" Someone needs to tell this person that has a lack of intellegence the word "colored" went out a long time ago during the times of high racial tension. I think this person that lacks intelligent meant to say "black people"...I don't really know, but it's just a thought "


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