2centsworth wrote on Jul 27, 2008 7:12 AM:
" I lived on Avon street for 30 years, it was a great place at one time to raise a family. then the slum lords moved in on Gould street and the neighborhood went to hell. That whole area of Avon , Liberty and Charles needs to be cleaned up. It has become an Eyesore. "
sick_of_it wrote on Jul 23, 2008 9:33 PM:
" remember now, the federal governments job is to protect us from ourselves......What a freekin' waste of money. "
Insider wrote on Jul 23, 2008 7:57 PM:
" This is a federal rule which requires complete blockage or else the horns have to be sounded. So the people in that area need to decide. Do they want 30K in gates and a few less spots to park or horns blowing at all hours? Those should be the only options. You can not justify 2 million. "
kay27 wrote on Jul 23, 2008 6:49 PM:
" I don't know why the medians have to be so wide and so long either. I live in the St Paul area and the medians by the railroad tracks in my neighborhood are about 4-5 feet wide and about 20 feet long on each side of the tracks.
I'd rather have medians than have some idiot try to drive around the barriers and cause a train to derail into my backyard. "
laxres wrote on Jul 23, 2008 3:57 PM:
" Why install the medians now? Haven't we lived just fine the way things are for the past 4 or 5 decades? By the way, where is this money coming from? I've been trying to get the city to improve the storm sewers for over 5 years now and they keep telling me they don't have the money? Maybe they can vote on it and it will magically appear! "
NorthsidersRule wrote on Jul 23, 2008 2:29 PM:
" Avon St. is an area you might want to avoid after dark. OK, I'm going over to Jabber Jaws and get drunk now. "
dumas wrote on Jul 23, 2008 2:20 PM:
" Just how am I a defensive north sider? I no longer live in La Crosse because of property taxes and home values. I did spend much of my life there but the only reason that I even spoke up was an idiot creating north side-south side issue for nothing. As Jackson stated, the south side has just as many run down areas and quite frankly, has areas I refuse to visit after dark. Thus far, I cannot think of any NS neighborhood that I'd avoid at night. Unfortunately, with the way the city is being run there is nothing anyone can do about it. La Crosse needs to clean up city hall and then hopefully they can clean up the neighborhoods. "
NorthsidersRule wrote on Jul 23, 2008 2:08 PM:
" We are the bestest side of all the sides! we are gooder than the southside or the eastside or the westside. Yeah northside!!! "
slinger1919 wrote on Jul 23, 2008 2:05 PM:
" With my opinion stated earlier I grew up on the north side just 1 1/2 blocks from these intersections. My parents still live in the neighborhood. "
slinger1919 wrote on Jul 23, 2008 2:03 PM:
" The best and easiest solution is to close the roads at these intersectons. It will be cost effective and will not drop any property values. It will save lives and also quiet the neighborhoods...less traffic and no horns blowing. The property owners can still use their driveways and park in front of their homes. There are some streets on the south side that are set up this same way. This way eveyone wins!!! "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Jul 23, 2008 2:02 PM:
" Next some idiot in king marks court will suggest toll booths and gates. As to the North sider south sider debate there are as nice of homes and neighborhoods on the north side as the south side and actually probably nicer. The southside is one corporate slum and Ive lived in both and to be truthfull the south side is deterorating at warp speed and the easiest place to find drugs.NS doesnt have a whole area labeled CRACK TOWN! "
IAmRight wrote on Jul 23, 2008 2:01 PM:
" Maybe after looking at the northside it's been decided that it's only worth a cheap fix. Oh, and dumas, I think what totbom meant when he or she said you were baited was that you exposed yourself as the stereotypically defensive northsider. "
dumas wrote on Jul 23, 2008 1:58 PM:
" Jackson---wouldn't matter if it was Hoeschler Drive or Hollywood Boulevard. The city is broke and thus the "cheap" fix is the only option they can even consider. Unless of course they can create a TIF district to build the special AMTRACK roundabout and new depot and transit center and hotel and...well, you get the picture. I have a hard time seeing them come up with even enough to cover a plastic snow fence for barriers. "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Jul 23, 2008 1:53 PM:
" Unfortunately, the best solution also is the most expensive solution, Italiano said
And since were not talking about Hoeshler drive get ready to settle for the cheap fix. "
NorthsidersRule wrote on Jul 23, 2008 1:44 PM:
" I am a proud long time resident of the north side. So what if I live on a deteriorating block surrounded by neighbors of questionable character? At least my property value is low so my taxes aren't so high. "
totbom wrote on Jul 23, 2008 1:33 PM:
" You're so easily baited. "
dumas wrote on Jul 23, 2008 1:30 PM:
" YOU are the person that made this a north side-south side thing. I lived on the North side for 30 years and wouldn't trade the neighborhood I grew up in for any of the cesspool stench of the south end. In fact, the 6 months I did live down yonder I couldn't wait to get back.
Now, if we can get through the N-S BS, unfortunately this is a "whole" city problem. With the idiot mayor handing out TIF's like halloween candy and a recession driven poor housing market, this will hit ALL neighborhoods. Whether it is a train-gate barrier, a roundabout, stealing private property, new carpet, etc. The people of Lax need to take back their city from King Mark & the head bobbers. "
dumas wrote on Jul 23, 2008 12:54 PM:
" Everyone will have to excuse totbom. He preceives all Northside neighborhoods to be inferior. We forget that he resides in the extremely high class neighborhood bounded by West Avenue, Green Bay St, 5th Street, and Market. When you live in such a high class area of the south side it is easy to understand how everywhere else would be considered bottom feeders. Or it could simply be that totbom is just simply an idiot. I'll go with the latter! "
IAmRight wrote on Jul 23, 2008 12:41 PM:
" JLDK:
No one said you were inferior, it's the attitude of the northsider that is very defensive and whiney. Everyone is out to get you. "
totbom wrote on Jul 23, 2008 12:37 PM:
" To JLDK - Except your neighborhoods. "
JLDK wrote on Jul 23, 2008 12:22 PM:
" To totbom:
We choose to live on the northside. Nothing inferior about that! "
Seethelight wrote on Jul 23, 2008 11:54 AM:
" The residents shouldn't suffer because drivers fail to use good judgement. Do this the best way for the homeowners and gain lots of good PR in the process. Or end up re-doing it in a few years at more cost and inconvenience. The cheap way is not always the cheapest in the long run. "
Amom wrote on Jul 23, 2008 9:47 AM:
" We'd still have to pay for "stupid people doing stupid things." The first time someone tried to "snake" through, they would get hit and the stupid persons family would bring a lawsuit. That's what people do these days even if it was the own persons stupidity. So, eventually, we would still end up paying somehow. "
Old_Fogey wrote on Jul 23, 2008 9:44 AM:
" Why does it need to be 100 feet long? That sounds a bit excessive to me. And why so wide? Just make the barrier taller, not wider. Just high enough that the average stupid (sorry for the oxymoron) person can't drive over the barrier.
I suppose the Feds somehow got involved in this, and this is a Federal spec. Sigh. "
Vindicator wrote on Jul 23, 2008 9:17 AM:
" Once again we have to pay for STUPID people doing stupid things. If people want to drive around the gates, let'em. "
berkshirebull wrote on Jul 23, 2008 9:12 AM:
" WHO CARES if people try to "snake" through the gates when they're down. If they're that STUPID let them do it at their own risk. "
daddylonglegs wrote on Jul 23, 2008 8:33 AM:
" My solution would be to close all through traffic in these intersections. Let them go around if they need to go north or south. You can easily drive out to Rose St. or Copeland Ave or out to Lang Dr. Would quiet the neighborhoods with less traffic. "
doctor9 wrote on Jul 23, 2008 8:24 AM:
" How about those 3' concrete barriers that are used during construction on highways? They're more of an eyesore, but take up a smaller "footprint", which might retain the ability to park. A sacrifice must be made for safety's sake; these people need to pick one. "
Garvi wrote on Jul 23, 2008 7:49 AM:
" Sorry "those" "
Garvi wrote on Jul 23, 2008 7:49 AM:
" "La Crosses lower North Side" Lower ? North is up and south is down by the way. A little sterotyping?? You only have 2 options 1)The median barriers or 2) the train horns blowing. make your choice but theose are the only options. "
whatthehey wrote on Jul 23, 2008 7:16 AM:
" Who do they think is going to pay 2 million dollars so they don't have to walk a block or so? "
totbom wrote on Jul 23, 2008 7:00 AM:
" Unfortunately you can never win with the north siders. They will always find something to complain about. Theyve had an inferiority complex for years. "
possom133 wrote on Jul 23, 2008 6:57 AM:
" Forget it and let the horns blow, then we'll hear some sqealing. "