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Published - Wednesday, July 30, 2008

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Taxes on tap at local meeting


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ONALASKA, Wis. — Tuesday night’s Wisconsin Way town hall gathering was a meeting about proven outcomes and measurable results — both for the process and ideas the group is peddling.

“How do we make it happen? Because I don’t trust they’ll figure it out down there (in Madison),” asked Kraig Brownell.
Wisconsin Way, an association of public and professional organizations, has been traveling across the state compiling input on the state’s tax structure.

The second stop in the La Crosse area, this forum was intended to report back on ideas collected statewide. The meeting Tuesday at Onalaska’s OmniCenter drew less than 50 people, while 358 attended the October session.

“The only way to make this happen is to demonstrate that the people of Wisconsin want it to happen,” said Jim Wood, president of Wood Communications Group.

Wood said this is just the beginning of what’s likely going to be a 3 to 7 year conversation and the group likely wouldn’t formally present its findings to elected officials until the first quarter of next year.

Wood’s presentation included dozens of suggestions, such as creating a federation of regional economic development agencies and consolidating certain government services.

All but a few audience members agreed the state needs to reduce its reliance on property taxes and should consider shifting that burden to an expanded sales tax.

Wood also offered up an alternative to traditional student loans that would treat 4-year and technical colleges like an investment.

The “human TIF” program would provide tuition for levels and payback tied to the recipient’s future income levels, Wood said. The state would see payback regardless of whether the person moved out of the state.

But like any investment, it’s a risk, he added. Some are going to fail, some are going to die and some are going to become drug addicts.

At the October forum, audience members were especially concerned about keeping property taxes affordable for seniors.

But the majority of Tuesday’s group argued it was less about age than ability to pay and senior citizens shouldn’t be treated differently in the property tax formula.

A 25-year-old making minimum wage has the same challenges a senior does, one woman said.

And because wealth is accumulated over time, senior citizens are by far the wealthiest class, said T.J. Brooks, an economics professor at the University of Wisconsin-La Crosse. They’re just no longer earning any income, he added.

Samantha Marcus can be reached at (608) 791-8220 or smarcus@lacrossetribune.com.
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sass wrote on Jul 30, 2008 11:47 PM:

" Yes, everyone with limited income is hurting right now, be they seniors or others on minimal incomes. When will our representatives and senators realize the folly of increasing property taxes, which affects renters and homeowners alike? An increased sales tax...not assessed on the essentials of life...still seems to be the answer. I don't believe most of us want to give up the quality of life made possible by government spending to help those who don't earn the same as others of us, and an increase in the sales tax on "non-essentials could compensate and be more fair to all. "

Myturn wrote on Jul 30, 2008 9:10 AM:

" 50%!!! of private workers have had No employer participation in a retirement program. Although you and I contribute 10-18.5% for local government and school workers. With the exception of Kember, O'Malley, and Gow. They have more in there little read employment contracts. "

Mack wrote on Jul 30, 2008 8:58 AM:

" Seniors on fixed incomes are going to face tough times with inflation getting out of hand. "

Senior Advocate wrote on Jul 30, 2008 8:11 AM:

" The property tax is unfair irregardless of the situation of the individuals. As far as the Seniors being the richest etc, this is a broad brush. Most Seniors are not rich, most live on very modest pensions and social security as their only income. They have worked all their years to own their homes and have paid faithfully all the school and property and state and federal taxes each year. Now in the last years of their life many have to sell their home to survive, This the richest country in the world does the poorest job for their seniors. No other developed nations treats them this way. So get off the high horse and see the rest of the world and try to figure out what is rally important in the short life we have. "

rprp wrote on Jul 30, 2008 7:05 AM:

" The article says seniors should not be treated differently then others in the property tax formula. This is probably right but no one should be treated differently. The government does not believe this especially in 1995 when hugh property tax breaks and hugh breaks since have been given to farmers and RICH farmers were included. They don't have to prove they need help or for that matter even ask for it. It is given to them period. "

Ian wrote on Jul 30, 2008 3:54 AM:

" Consolidation of services is one practical solution. Government in Wisconsin is far more expensive than in other parts of the country simply because it forfeits the economies of scale. Count all the town governments in La Crosse County, add the villages, add the cities, add the county and you have a bunch of entities. On top of that, throw in a load of school boards. Offices and positions are duplicated endlessly. "

stevegorescrg wrote on Jul 30, 2008 12:34 AM:

" This was an outstanding meeting! Mr. Wood and his group are really taking the bull by the horns and trying to seek serious and feasible solutions to economic development and tax issues here in the state.

As he related time and again at this gathering, no sacred cows should be spared scrutiny and all ideas should be put on the table. His group is serious about tax reform and increasing gov't efficiency and affordability- unlike the current ultra-partisan group of legislators in Madison! Please consider attending the next forum about possible actions regarding the WWAY agenda for change. Taxpayers, you will not regret it! "


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