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Published - Sunday, August 03, 2008

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Joe Orso: Shrine dedication, Postville rally offer two opportunities to encounter faith


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This week, I saw two images of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

One, a giant mosaic in the front of the giant Shrine Church of Our Lady of Guadalupe, where people stand in awe.
The other, a modest statue in the front of a small church in a small town in Iowa, where people suffer.

At a Mass dedicating the Shrine Church on Thursday, Roman Catholic men, wearing robes and having traveled from throughout the country, sat in front and stood when the rest of the congregation kneeled.

At an interfaith gathering to support immigrants in Postville, Iowa, on Sunday, Jewish and Christian men led a prayer service in English, Hebrew and Spanish.

They sang hallelujahs in both churches.

At the shrine, a cantor led a slow rendition of the song of praise, and then a deacon slowly chanted a reading from the Gospel.

At St. Bridget’s Catholic Church in Postville, a rabbi, after saying his Jewish friends wanted to tell the government that a May 12 raid against immigrants was wrong, led an upbeat chant of hallelujah while more than a thousand people chanted and clapped along.

Both events were unique.

The church dedication came after nine years of planning and began with a procession of hundreds. Its purpose was to transform a building into a house of worship.

The interfaith prayer service and march came 21/2 months after a raid in Postville, when helicopters hovered and immigrants ran through the streets after federal officials barged into the Agriprocessors Inc. factory where they worked. Mothers and fathers have been detained and put into federal prison before being deported, while their families remain here. The purpose of the Sunday event was to call on the government to make comprehensive reform to immigration policy that respects families, and to stand with those devastated by the raid.

Both events drew protests.

Outside the shrine, 10 Protestants commanded Catholics to stop goddess-worship.

In Postville, more than a hundred people stood on a main street as the interfaith marchers passed. Their counter-protest signs included: “What would Jesus do? Obey the law” and “Ask me why you deserve hell.”

At the shrine, an archbishop described bishops and priests as “images of our Lord.”

In Postville, a Hispanic business owner said, “There is only one race. That is human. There is only one language. That is truth. There is only one religion. That is love.”

So what to make of the two?

Both embraced the Hispanic people and offered a narrative that the people of the Americas are one.

At the shrine, a man outside said we are always at the crossroads of the invisible and the visible, and the shrine could become those crossroads for all of North America.

Could it?

In Postville, a Lutheran chaplain said God stands on the side of immigrants.

“From Abraham and Sarah who left behind, like many people, their families, loved ones and everything they knew to chase a dream and a promise,” he said. “Like Moses and the people of Israel, who left behind oppression and poverty. Like Jesus himself, who began his life as a refugee, escaping poverty and persecution by his own government. Like Muhammad and Buddha and many other traditions that know that it is only through immigration that we understand ourselves; only when we are able to move beyond the narrow understanding of the world do we encounter God.”

Do you believe him?

Joe Orso works part time for the La Crosse Tribune and the Franciscan Spirituality Center. Opinions in this column are his own. He can be reached at jorso@lacrossetribune.com.
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County resident wrote on Aug 7, 2008 6:51 PM:

" In response to the Luthern chaplin quote: Islam does not strive to have an "encounter" with Allah, only to find favor with him, which is there is no real means of securing. Buddha would not even understand the statement because he taught the only encounter we need is the one with the god inside us. Jesus' teachings showed humnaity their need for an encounter with God and only thru Jesus is one possible. "

davidinlse wrote on Aug 5, 2008 10:59 AM:

" Just close the plant. Easy to do, enforce the law's. When the plant's closed, the illegal's will go somewhere else. The loss will be minor, because there are not that many local's employed there. The crime rate and welfare rates will go down, in short, only positive can come from enforcing the laws. "

Michael Welch wrote on Aug 4, 2008 12:29 PM:

" 'PO'B's 'God' is the expression of 'PO'B's politics; He is of course the 'God' of what 'PO'B' thinks is just. Jesus wasn't a lawyer; he was an itinerant teacher and faith healer who would even heal the pagan Roman centurion's loyal slave and the goyishe Syro-Phoenician woman's daughter. Mercy is ever better than 'justice' if justice is NOT suffused with mercy. And I see nothing in 'PO'B's comment that indicates his 'God' actually 'loves' anything or anyone enough to be more merciful than 'just'... "

Senior Advocate wrote on Aug 4, 2008 10:28 AM:

" When you cut through all the fog,and get to the bottom the real story of the Postville outcry it has to due with economic losses and the key word is "illigal" not "legal" immigration. The rest, as tragic as some of the stories are is pure tear jerking. If people want to help they need to work through the proper channels and have their legislator work on the immigration laws and procedures, that is where the real problem lies. If any citizen does something illegal and gets caught they get punished, I know of no law that states it is OK to come into this country "illegally" for any purpose. "

possom133 wrote on Aug 3, 2008 9:04 AM:

" So my question is, if all these folks with and using false SSI numbers were muslim and not catholic do think they would be wailing like they are? Lots of nasty things going on in Postville if you really look into it. "

Phil O'Bates wrote on Aug 3, 2008 5:55 AM:

" The Lutheran pastor made a bad statement. God is no more on 'the side' of immigrants as he is on 'the side' of Democrats, Republicans, or the Green Bay Packers. God is Justice. God is Peace. God is Love. God is Holy. WE can choose to be on God's side regardless of our political affiliation, sports team affiliation, or residential status.

The pastor fails to point out the difference between illegal immigrant and legal. Between people running from justice and responcibility and people running to freedom and stability. By the pastor making his error, he minimizes the awesomeness of God and what God is actually for.....eternal life with Him. "

Michael Welch wrote on Aug 2, 2008 12:59 PM:

" I certainly do 'believe him'; but then I'm not usually 'liked' for it. The 'narrow' world is the one most folks feel comfortable in it seems. Catholics are 'pagans' though they are the largest Christian church and a thousand years senior to any evangelical protestant one. Illegal immigrants are 'the least of these' but not 'least' enough I guess; for the literalists commenting here, their 'reward' can ONLY be 'in heaven' because here such as 'Phil O'Bates' will offer them only calumny, slander and 'hell'... "


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