The Moderate wrote on Aug 23, 2008 6:46 AM:
" Of course MyTurn's solution would be to "stick it" to someone who has more money than him. However, the City doesn't own any duplexes where he suggests they place this home. And the reason they don't own any property in such areas is that those areas seem to do just fine without the City's help. Apparently that's not the case on the Northside. "
SRP wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:42 PM:
" Honestly ask yourself - Do I want a Jail next to my home where I am raising my children? Think about the traffic of the abusers, pimps, and drugees looking for these women. What about the Driver's Ed Business 30 feet away from where they want to put the temporary Jail. Perfect idea - along with the kids walking to Logan Middle and High School. Responding to Near South Sider - Get a Clue - Just because a family lives on the North end of town, doesn't mean they are poor and uneducated. Don't speak for the "same" people. "
Myturn wrote on Aug 19, 2008 10:55 AM:
" Cameron Ave was high density homes of similar usage. This Northside neighborhood is flourishing with police stabbings, high crime. and most importantly the highest sexual offender population by far in the City. "
Myturn wrote on Aug 19, 2008 10:53 AM:
" I still think it should go in Wedgewood or Waterford Valley. "
Near South Sider wrote on Aug 19, 2008 7:59 AM:
" I agree with The Real Paladin on this issue. Furthermore, its funny to note that the very same people that complain about this project and say lock them up in jail are the same people who will scream bloody hell if the new jail goes over budget. And it will, without this and other justice sanction projects. So dont support this, but be willing to pay people. Jails cost money. Get a clue people. "
Myturn wrote on Aug 18, 2008 4:57 PM:
" Gosh David I am sorry. Didn't I respond the way you wanted? (added sarcasm, again) "
davidinlse wrote on Aug 18, 2008 2:18 PM:
" RE: Myturn wrote on Aug 17, 2008 5:48 PM: Yes the tide is turning, but not for a negative knothead like you. You have demonstrated that you can, and will accomplish nothing, even if a seat were GIVEN to you. As far as making YOUR point, you missed the point completly. Typical. "
down2512 wrote on Aug 18, 2008 11:48 AM:
" OOPS! I mean the articles about Klekamp from 2002. I don't think the councilman should be apologetic for doing exactly what he's supposed to. When we elect people to represent us (your neighbor, the public) we are saying we TRUST you to value our opinions and to preserve our neighborhood when it comes to movements like this! There is no need for a women's jail group home! You are either in or out of jail no inbetweens! I thought the new construction was supposed to somehow replace the existing women's section of jail? "
down2512 wrote on Aug 18, 2008 10:23 AM:
" put klekamp's name in the archive search of this newspaper and read the articles! if you aren't as shocked as I am of this professionally trained counselor there is something wrong with someone! read the articles from the 1990's and tell me how this person is legit in people care! you may as well hire charlie manson! "
mjblues wrote on Aug 18, 2008 4:37 AM:
" ok-the new jail was built when? and for how much? and women have never been incarcerated there because? and now we need to find a place to put them because why? because the county didn't think women comitted crimes back when the new jail was being built? so now we have to screw up low income neigborhoods with the flotsam and jetsam of these incarcerated womens' lives? I can't belive that the sherrif can't figure out how to house these women in the facility he has now... I'm tired of the liberal bleeding hearts of this "Wiskonsin- Amerika" "
Myturn wrote on Aug 17, 2008 5:48 PM:
" That you for making my point davidinlse! I still beleive we should by a home in Wedgewood or Waterford for this 'house'. Yeah, that's going to happen. As far as George? He will vote for Mark, 'unitl' he constituients call his house. Keep it up people, and yes, I can feel the tide turning. "
russo73 wrote on Aug 17, 2008 8:34 AM:
" Hero's badge or boob, he's the only one so far willing to stand up for us on the north side over this issue. That's all that interests me right now.Neither the north side, or all of La Crosse for that matter is a dumping ground. As long as we allow these "do-gooders", who try to save the world on our buck and in our back yards, to continue to put in all these group homes and jail alternatives, this town will never bounce back. Enough is enough! "
Yellow media watch wrote on Aug 16, 2008 10:58 PM:
" Really now? What did you expect George to do...for once he is representing his district instead of his cronies at City Hall. First time for everything. He is an opportunistic boob that is just grandstanding and the evil council will prevail over the hero George.
(Politics 101 folks, don't slap this goof a hero badge) "
russo73 wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:36 PM:
" You smell that? It's the winds of change in this town. All it takes is one person to stand up to the bullies and more will follow. I must admit, I was leary about george at first, but he has pleasently surprised me and I am so thankful for him. "
Anna Banana wrote on Aug 16, 2008 8:28 PM:
" Duh - they are looking or an alternative becasue the current jail does not function properly and whenever they talk about building anew jail all people do is commplain. Either they have to look for alternative or they need to have a woman's jail that functions as such. "
Athenry wrote on Aug 16, 2008 6:36 PM:
" polkadot -- you're really off base with most families having a member that has been in trouble. Maybe, it's true of most of the families you associate with but I can say no one I am related to or associate with has committed anything greater than a speeding ticket. Jail is supposed to be a punishment, we should not be looking at ways to make being in jail more convenient for those that have been convicted of a crime carrying a jail sentence. "
polkadot wrote on Aug 16, 2008 4:01 PM:
" I am saddened and amazed at the attitudes of people in La Crosse. Most families have had someone in their families who have been in trouble, would a facility such as this not have been a help to them? These women are disadvantaged, often abused and living in poverty. This program will give them a chance that life hasn't as of yet. I'd welcome this next door. I am also saddened that people who can write anonymously feel they can say anything they want and not be accountable. If their names were attached, their words would be different. "
wizard wrote on Aug 16, 2008 3:08 PM:
" King Doyle and his brassy panced wife Gloria,family court commissioner are commanding alot of LaCrosse County,I think they could use a one way ticket to Haiti. "
davidinlse wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:55 PM:
" RE; Myturn wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:00 PM: He was elected to represent HIS DISTRICT. Not some other district. "
Myturn wrote on Aug 16, 2008 12:00 PM:
" Im doing what my constituents want? Trying something new George? Were you , or were you not all lined up to vote for the City Ambulance Plan. The truth now George. Funny how George just stood up for his Northside neighbors with this, and the railroad barricades. How about the directly adjacent District where you have stood mute while it goes unrepresented until April of 2009???? Come on George!!!! "
clearingsky wrote on Aug 16, 2008 10:23 AM:
" It is good to see that someone from the city is taking a stand on this issue.The womens' jail proposal in our neighborhood undermines the goal of providing families with a safe area to own and improve our homes.We have a strong and friendly neighborhood,and we would like to continue the improvements already made.We've worked hard to make this northside neighborhood the kind of area that anyone would be comfortable raising a family in.We are hard working,tax paying,law abiding residents of the City of La Crosse.This is without question,the wrong location for housing the womens'jail population.
Way to go George,its good to know someone is listening. "
The Real Paladin wrote on Aug 16, 2008 10:14 AM:
" jmn-
How long do you keep them locked up? Life in prison for a couple $20 bad checks when times were tough? Same fore a first offense DUI? Same for premeditated murder? I often wonder how Democracy has survived as long as it has with the attitudes displayed by the general public. People often wonder how oppresive governments come to power and thrive...it's people like you that WANT to give up rights and imprison people forever for minor infractions. Welcome to the gulag. "
jmn wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:42 AM:
" Just because they're women doesn't mean they aren't dangerous. Keep 'em locked up just like the guys. "
Im Still jackson wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:37 AM:
" George may have to work with thoses bozo's downtown but he has to live with those Northsiders the city has pissed off while trying to rent city property to the county to house criminals. I have to agree with davidinlse Put them in jail! Maybe Keith Belzer will take them in given his theories on why women are in jail in the first place? "
DJ: wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:26 AM:
" Wow!! What a concept. An elected representative that actually represents their constituents!! Someone get that man to run for mayor.... or congress..... or... whatever. Way to go. "
R A wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:21 AM:
" Maybe those who voted for it will have a place next to them! Or Mr. Medinger will take them in. Or maybe the government should build a large facility in a proper location for that purpose. You have to remember it is not only those who are housed, it is the visiters also! It is a huge problem these days. "
The Truth wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:15 AM:
" How about this for a solution? The County should buy the lot next door to the Doyle's and build such a home for said people to live. How about it, Steve? "
Darwinism wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:06 AM:
" What ever district they plan to put this "house" the majority of constituants will disapprove. The irony, the majority of constituants of the other districts will approve (city/county) to keep it out of their district. The opinion of the majority, it's an ok idea, just not in my neighborhood. I admit, that's my opinion as well "
davidinlse wrote on Aug 16, 2008 9:00 AM:
" I have a solution, PUT THEM IN JAIL. They are CRIMINALS. Is that so hard to see? "
The Real Paladin wrote on Aug 16, 2008 8:58 AM:
" So, what do you do with these people since no one wants them next door and no one wants to hire them? Ship them to Australia? Everyone knows what they don't want in these cases, but no one offers viable solutions. "
R A wrote on Aug 16, 2008 8:33 AM:
" Good for Mr. Italiano, he was elected to fend for the neighbors of that area, and that is what he is doing. Who wants something like that going on next door, and who would buy property next to a half way house? Really no one wants that, so figure out a different solution. There should be specific areas for that kind of thing. "
The Shining wrote on Aug 16, 2008 7:34 AM:
" To Bailey58: You do realize that those types of politics are nation wide??!! Yep, communism is alive in good ol' USA "
Mack wrote on Aug 16, 2008 6:08 AM:
" More over-reacting. How dangerous are these women anyway? "
bailey58 wrote on Aug 16, 2008 1:13 AM:
" Oh wait I forgot, you get "certain" rights in the community when you use you pull as a local political boss with the Governor's Office to get a certain District Attorney (who just so happens to also be a Democrat) appointed DA! Smells like Chicago style politics to me!?! I really wonder if the local Democratic (I mean) Party of Doyle will have dead people voting this fall in the presidential election as well? What's the old saying, "it's not what you know, but who you know!" Congratulations La Crosse County, you've officially LOST you democracy!!! "
bailey58 wrote on Aug 16, 2008 1:06 AM:
" Awe, poor little Steve Doyle can play God and control the votes on the County Board, but when it comes to the City Council it's another story! But I bet the little man is working the phones as we speak trying use his muscle as a bully with the Mayor, and his cronies like Gamroth, Kader, Lenard, and Jai Johnson! Watch out City Council, it won't be too long before you have "secret" meeting going on at Doyle Law Office to "target" certain City Council seats as has been done during the County Board elections every election since 2000. Gee and I thought it was ILLEGAL in Wisconsin for corporations to anytype of contributions to those seeking public office? It's a wonder a CERTAIN County Board Chairman hasn't lost his law license over this yet? Or at least been fined? "
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