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Published - Friday, August 22, 2008

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Tom Oates: Rodgers’ pocket presence a concern for Packers


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Assuming Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, there are a number of things you needn’t worry about with the Green Bay Packers’ first-year starter at quarterback:

His arm strength and accuracy. His ability to throw on the run. His understanding of the offense. His confidence level. His leadership abilities.
However, based on Rodgers’ performance during the Packers’ first two exhibition games, there is one thing you should start worrying about:

His pocket presence.

For an NFL quarterback, the pocket is the eye of the hurricane. So far, Rodgers has looked like a guy who forgot to check the Weather Channel until it was too late.

True, he has gotten little help from his teammates. Rodgers’ receivers have dropped so many passes it looks like they’re staging a silent protest over the forced departure of Packers icon Brett Favre. Rodgers’ line has been a sieve as coaches have played checkers at the three inside positions, jumping players from one spot to another trying to find the right combination.

Still, in about three quarters of game action, Rodgers has been sacked an incredible six times. Maybe it will all change in tonight’s exhibition game against the Denver Broncos, but so far Rodgers has looked about as uncomfortable in the pocket as his bosses did when they explained why they traded Favre to the New York Jets.

Pocket presence is difficult to define, but all good quarterbacks have it.

They know when to get rid of the ball. They sense where pressure is coming from, even if it’s behind them. They have a knack for sidestepping pass-rushers or spinning away from would-be sackers. They have an awareness of where the other 23 players on the field are at all times.

At times during his three seasons as Favre’s apprentice and again this month, Rodgers has been overwhelmed by the rush. He doesn’t look skittish as much as he looks unaware of his surroundings.

After he was sacked four times on 20 dropbacks against San Francisco last week, Rodgers’ explanation was that he’s holding the ball too long instead of dumping off the ball to a checkdown receiver.

“I’m to blame, because I made too many (mental mistakes),” he said. “I just need to be quicker to the checkdown. That’s all I’m focused on — trust my feet, quick to the checkdown.”

While admitting that Rodgers has held the ball too long on occasion, quarterbacks coach Tom Clements said all quarterbacks struggle when under heavy pressure. He cautioned against overreacting after one poor game, noting that Rodgers played well in the exhibition opener.

“He’s very good fundamentally; he’s an accurate thrower,” Clements said. “He just has to understand, and I think he does, that any completion is good. It doesn’t have to be 20 yards down the field. It can be 3 yards down the field.”

It’s entirely possible that Rodgers is uncomfortable in the pocket because he hasn’t spent much time there lately. Rodgers hasn’t seen consistent snaps in live action since he was at California in 2004, an indication that he might have a learning — or re-learning — curve on pocket presence.

At least that’s what the Packers have to be hoping at this point.
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PackAttack2020 wrote on Aug 23, 2008 10:00 AM:

" free: too bad you had to cross that line...you should be ashamed of yourself for not knowing better...enough said "

PackAttack2020 wrote on Aug 22, 2008 2:41 PM:

" packer backer: have a couple of shots if you don't like the Kool-Aid...and come down off the bluff...it's not time to jump YET...let's see what happens...YES, TT is a HUGE putz...but let's see what our TEAM can come up with...GO PACK GO!! "

packer backer wrote on Aug 22, 2008 12:39 PM:

" Love the Packers, but I did not drink the Kool-aid. TT is a putz. How can we be this far into pre-season and still no veteran QB in camp? Rodgers goes down, and then what? This is unbelievable to me. Also I will be looking at the starting D line. In two pre-season games they have not touched, hurried or even made the opposing QB's break into a sweat. There needs to be some type of pass rush or the bad D backs the Pack have, will even look worse! "

free_speech wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:55 AM:

" Are they going to change the call letter from WFVR to WROG? "

free_speech wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:54 AM:

" They're not even putting these losers on cable? The 3rd game is the only preseason game worth watching! "

PackAttack2020 wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:38 AM:

" HD satellite coordinates and settings for the August 22 game in Denver are as follows:

Satellite: GALAXY 16 (99 W)
Transponder: 14 C
Band: C-Band Digital
Downlink Frequency: 3980 Vertical
Data Rate: 40.461471
Symbol Rate: 29.27
FEC: 3/4
Compression: 4:2:0
Stereo Audio
Video PID: 49
Audio PID: 256

For additional satellite coordinates information, go to WFRV.com. "

PackAttack2020 wrote on Aug 22, 2008 10:37 AM:

" free: again, you get what you pay for, and YOUR "free" speech is a rip-off. However, I do see that your "most challenging" game show is on Fox LaCrosse tonight "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader?"...oops...let me fix that for you free..."R U Smata Dan A Fith Grada?". Enjoy the Cowboys & Texans free...the rest of us will be watching the Pack. "

free_speech wrote on Aug 22, 2008 9:53 AM:

" I jsut checked the TV listings online and it looks like they are airing the Cowboys Texans game and NOT the Packer game! I don't see the Packer game listed at all! "

free_speech wrote on Aug 22, 2008 9:29 AM:

" He did write the article we are commenting on 2020. Relevent? Yes, I believe so. "

fishingpro wrote on Aug 22, 2008 9:09 AM:

" I cannot understand how GOD-HIMSELF can be such a tool. Aaron Rodgers is a nobody in the NFL. HE got his name from the guy your great Thompson traded. I am the biggest Viking fan you can find but I have to say i will tape the Packer game tonight so when I get home form the Brewers game I can watch the poor kid get slapped around. Then fast forward to the end when coach Mike is telling the press we need more time for him to develop. We made the right choice etc.etc. For you to say he is going to be an MVP is like saying Donald Driver's voice doesn't sound like a chic when you him interviewed on the radio. "

PackAttack2020 wrote on Aug 22, 2008 8:57 AM:

" ...by the way free SPEACH...your quotes earlier are by a sports WRITER who thinks there are "23 other players" on the field with Rodgers...my math says 21, but who's counting, eh? Good reference you're choosing...Oates is a hack...and free...well, you get what you pay for...and even then it's sometimes a rip-off. "

free_speech wrote on Aug 22, 2008 8:46 AM:

" The Bear defense laid down on this one for sure. Special teams were AWESOME. Manning had two run backs for 50-70 yards! Blocked punt and field goal! Offense (to be called awefense from now on) was GREAT!. Offense line gave Orton ALL DAY! Running game was rocking. When the D turns it on in the regular season LOOK OUT! "

GOD_HIMSELF wrote on Aug 22, 2008 7:48 AM:

" relax a little jersey. if my memory serves me correctly, even the great Brett Favre didn't throw for 400 yards and five td's in every pre-season game. Rodgers will be just fine. "

jersey66 wrote on Aug 22, 2008 7:16 AM:

" I don't think most Packer fans care if you can take punishment if that means you look horrendous against a poor team. I wouldn't consider myself a "hater," but the only thing that he has shown me is that TT made a poor choice. Things can only get better, right? "

GOD_HIMSELF wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:58 AM:

" as far as Rodgers goes, he told me before pre-season started he was gonna stand in the pocket and get knocked around a little bit just to show all the haters out there he could take some punishment, unlike t jack@ff, so i wouldn't be to concerned about it unless it carries over to the regular season. actually, since this is the third pre-season game tonight i would guess he'll be taking things a bit more seriously. Rodgers will look like the MVP tonight, mark my words and get your popcorn ready. the packers rule!!!!!!!! "

GOD_HIMSELF wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:53 AM:

" yeah the "big bad bears d" looked really good last night. bwahahahhha bwahahahhhahha it appears as though they want to be at the absolute bottom of the league in D this year rather than just 28th. they're definitely on the right track. looks like giving urlacher that big deal is sure gonna pay off. did he make a tackle last night? "

PackAttack2020 wrote on Aug 22, 2008 6:21 AM:

" ...and here's more: free_speech
wrote on Aug 19, 2008 8:06 AM:
" I get to see my Bears beat up on the 49 team that stomped the Packers this week on thursday night football! I CAN'T WAIT!!!! " - GOOD LUCK WITH THAT barelys fan (aka free SPEACH) Was that another "L" on THEIR record? The "VAUNTED" barelys D gave up 425 yards and 37 points?!? Lions and Tigers and Bears...OH MY... "

free_speech wrote on Aug 22, 2008 5:35 AM:

" Kyle Orton looked AWESOME last night! Meanwhile, according to Tom Oates "For an NFL quarterback, the pocket is the eye of the hurricane. So far, Rodgers has looked like a guy who forgot to check the Weather Channel until it was too late.... Here's more "so far Rodgers has looked about as uncomfortable in the pocket as his bosses did when they explained why they traded Favre to the New York Jets." And still more "Rodgers has been overwhelmed by the rush. He doesnt look skittish as much as he looks unaware of his surroundings." GOOD LUCK WITH THAT PACKER FANS! "


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