Warren24 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 2:26 PM:
" Why didn't the cops go to the door and say "Hey Nick keep the noise down so I don't get called back" Sounds like the cops made it out of control.
CFSMAN1, you are a COWARD -NO JOKE- to sit on here and make fun of someones weight, I hope you feel better about yourself and I hope the sparta cops do show up to help you with a burglar attack because they won't help you either, they'll assume you're a drug dealer. Kudos to you Sully if you are the cop Sullivan for being man enough to use the name everyone knows you by.
I think 2 kids that beat up 3 cops should get jobs at Angelini's, its probably the safest place in town. "
Darwinism wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:25 PM:
" It's really good to know both sides are ready to throw down and go onions to the wall over such an important issue. Risk jail and hospital visits over the issue of legally drinking in our free country when all could potentially serve and die in war for oil, WMD's, evil dictator, democracy, ability to buy a Whopper???? "
CFSMAN1 wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:16 PM:
" I love Sully's comment about kids and smaller people passing for cops "now days". I would rather have one of these "kids" or "little bity girl officers" show up when I need help than most of the Monroe County Sheriff's officers. One of them, Sullivan I think, (hmmm.......Sully?), goes no less than 500 lbs - NO JOKE! I'd like to see him chase the burglar out of my car or help me if I'm getting attacked. "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:21 PM:
" In defense of the cops they have to go through extensive training these days unlike the days of hiring Big ole farm boys.
They say size matters and that may be true from an intimidational point of view, but its been proven time and time again, that its the little guys that are fast as lightning you meed to look out for in a fight! "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Aug 26, 2008 1:15 PM:
" ML? What do you mean theres NO SANTA CLAUS????
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!! "
Baukman wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:09 PM:
" amused..It seems like you have some inside information. If you were there, you should shed some light on what you know...if you weren't there then I believe you should stop all your speculations. As for this story, there is always two sides. The courts will more than likely settle this. "
omega wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:54 AM:
" Sully,
I found your comments about "what passes for cops today" extremely insulting. Contrary to your belief, being 6'5" and 200lbs does not make a "good cop". A good cop is smart, compassionate, community oriented, and is trained to protect themselves and others. I would rather have a petite woman, trained in combat and arms, with a brain sharper than a razorblade protecting me than to have some beefy moron with a badge walking my streets. I think any person carrying a weapon who knows how to use it is plenty intimidating.
I hope the next time you need help,a "girl" officer responds. I guarentee you will never bad-mouth the so-called "weaker sex" when you see how hard and effectively they work. Shame on you, for your lack of character. "Girl" officers save lives every day. Respect that. "
therealdeal24 wrote on Aug 26, 2008 6:26 AM:
" everyone has there own opinions, but unless you were ther you have no idea what you were talking about. EVERYONE including the POLICE should be held accountable for their mistakes,everyone is totally siding with one or the other,why does it have to be that way? did anyone even let it go through their narrow minds that maybe BOTH sides could be at fault to some degree? just drop it and let the court sort it out.MYOB!!! "
kimmie wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:39 PM:
" Mizmo,
What I was meaning is how can a group of kids send 3 officers to the hospital!?Do I need to put a group of kids on speed dial in case I need help instead of calling the cops to help me?Most of these kids nowdays need exercise, a hobby & most of all - a good old fashioned boot up their butt!9 out of 10 have no respect for themselves,parents,elders,and least of all, law enforcement.I'm sick of paying for other peoples mistakes-make these kids pay for the damages they did,including hospital bills instead of taking it out of the taxes we pay for. "
CFSMAN1 wrote on Aug 25, 2008 8:58 PM:
" I heard that Sullivan loser is the son of a Monroe County copper??? Anyone?? If so, quite sad if you ask me. "
amused wrote on Aug 25, 2008 6:57 PM:
" umm...nick sullivan assaulted the officer on the back outside steps before stepping back inside of the house. no search warrant needed for that sweetheart. assaulting an officer is a felony. also, i would hardly call john hesselberg and nick sullivan college students having a couple beers. drug dealers is much more accurate. "
uwp wrote on Aug 25, 2008 6:39 PM:
" This isn't about kids. All were over 20 years of age except for a couple who were not drinking as mentioned in an earlier comment. These are mainly college students enjoying a few beers before they go back to college. Ask me how I know...I was there but left before this "event" occured. Of course, that doesn't excuse punching a cop or choking one. But, I would bet the majority of you don't know that they had NO search warrant, and were also in the wrong. Both sides could've handeled it better. "
TracyLynn wrote on Aug 25, 2008 6:08 PM:
" Yes i realize that the police department *doesnt* build the skate parks but being as ive not only worked for the County for many years as well as have many friends on County board and city council I can tell you that they have *alot* of input.We shouldnt let a few bad apples wreck it for the kids who do go to school,who do as they are told and walk a fine line of being on the right side of the law!Its proven if you give the kids something to do they will do it,and it will bring the problems down.May not curb it 100% but at least it would help with most of it.Above all its about giving and getting respect in return not just assuming every teenager who doesnt look or act the way you expect them to is a punk(etc).. "
amused wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:46 PM:
" i think we have some parents of the people arrested on here. blaming the officers instead of their kids...as usual. no wonder they turned out the way they did. "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:21 PM:
" true dat "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:11 PM:
" Oh come on nelly, sparta is not that bad...........if you compare it to to the prison in BRF. "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:10 PM:
" nope, just a guess "
Sully wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:05 PM:
" Are you sure nels? "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:53 PM:
" All of this cop bashing goes on in Sparta because there are a large amount of dirtbag/criminals who live here. Criminals don't ususally like the cops......do they.. "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:47 PM:
" sully....let me guess, your last name is sullivan "
ML wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:41 PM:
" A question: why is this even newsworthy? Dirtbags out of control in Sparta, again? Next there will be a hard hitting story about the fact that there's no Santa Claus. The only time Sparta should ever be mentioned in the paper is when the authorities finally get around to incarcerating all the sex offenders who live and work there. Dateline NBC should do "To Catch a Predator" there; the streets would be deserted when it was over. "
girlfriend wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:02 PM:
" sully...you're right. i apologize. OnaRes got me pretty worked up. which, i imagine, is exactly what he/she is intending to do. can't believe i fell for it. probably because it's monday :) "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:01 PM:
" I have no issue with saying this stuff to people faces if they act in public as they do in here. As far as you avoiding my bussiness, well that is going to be a little difficult because you and every other person in this country needs the service that I and my fellow co-workers provide. Now have a great day knowing I am providing you with a service that you so desperately need, along with all other Americans. "
Sully wrote on Aug 25, 2008 3:48 PM:
" After reviewing the comments here I have determined that worthwhile comments ended just prior to 6:26 am. "
girlfriend wrote on Aug 25, 2008 3:41 PM:
" wait a minute. you've been in your 'career field' for 20 years? THEN ACT LIKE IT. If calling people names behind an anonymous keyboard is ok for you as a career-minded professional then please tell us all where you 'work' so we can be sure to avoid you and your business. "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 3:21 PM:
" Girlfriend...I can assure you I will not loose any sleep knowing I have lost your respect. Your comments about being school age could not be further from the truth. Matter fact I have been in my career field for almost twenty years. I would be quit safe to say I have seen and done more and experienced more in my career then you could only imagine. I have tested by the best and have not broke, so continue to make your comments as they are shallow and uneducated. "
girlfriend wrote on Aug 25, 2008 3:14 PM:
" OnaRes: you lost all respect and dignity with this: " HOMO, I meane HOMER" what a childish, immature thing to write. talk about the pot calling the kettle black. when is your first day of school anyway? they don't allow blogging on the junior high computers do they? i sure hope not. then maybe we won't have to read your drivel until christmas vacation. "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 2:54 PM:
" HOMO, I meane HOMER....Spelling words correctly is always good practice but proper english is not? Nice way to cover your butt. You see I do not give a crap about it in here because this means nothing to my work, my future or anything that is important to me. People who lack good arguments have one thing to use as an attack and that is other peoples spelling and grammar. If that simple attempt at bashing me made you laugh out loud then you are very simple minded and easily ammused. Now, until you say something intelligent, I am finished waisting my time with you. "
Double A wrote on Aug 25, 2008 2:17 PM:
" to all those who are attacking others as 'liberals': Do you not believe that, in today's day and age, police officers may be, in some situations, out of line? Provoking? Arrogant? Well, I have news for you: Ultimate respect for police is bourne of a force which is trained and consistent in following procedure and taking their code of conduct oath seriously. Without the latter, the former breaks down. Your heads are in the sand, my friends. But you seem comfortable there. Unfortunately we can still hear your barely-audible tirades of stereotyping. Just barely though. "
girlfriend wrote on Aug 25, 2008 2:10 PM:
" tracylynn, i have lived in 'sparlem' for a long time too. i haven't ever had a problem with any of the police (knock on wood). i do know that on saturday night my son's car was vandalized in our drive way. our neighbors saw what was happening and called the police.an officer was at our doorstep within minutes and was able to catch the kids doing the vandalism. i am very thankful. i believe they have a very thankless job. and i also think they are probably very similar to other small town officers--too much work, not enough pay or community support. "
medic wrote on Aug 25, 2008 1:52 PM:
" To Tracy...not trying to start a confrontation...but it sure is not the police that build skate parks, mini golf parks, etc....Not exactly a fair comparison. And just because they don't have these things doesn't mean that justifies the behavoir of young people these days. Too many of these young punks think that they are untoucheable and this mentality is what is behind the majority of this. The 'can never happen to me attitude' needs to be pushed out of their heads and replaced with 'I bet there are severe consequences for that'. "
homer wrote on Aug 25, 2008 1:48 PM:
" I am quite capable of speaking and writing proper english. In an informal forum such as writing a comment on a story on lacrossetribune.com, I do not find it necessary. Spelling words correctly is always good practice, however. BTW - it would be, 'Wow(,) Homer(,) you come in...'
Laughing Out Loud,
Homer "
TracyLynn wrote on Aug 25, 2008 1:33 PM:
" I have lived in Sparta for the last 33 years and can tell you that the new lineup of cops are NOTHING compared to the older generation.
They do things and then ask questions..For those of you who read the paper you didnt EVER see complaints almost monthly in the paper about the shoddy job that is being done or how this officer wronged this person.
There is such a thing as a second chance.Perhaps if they actually did stuff for the kids in our town (skatepark,game room,etc) all things that Lacrosse offers there kids,perhaps it would help eleviate some of the things that go on here.Then again they wouldnt have anyone to blame or bother!The older generation didnt have this many problems because they listened! "
DreDogg wrote on Aug 25, 2008 12:47 PM:
" They should have given the kids spankings right in front of all their friends. "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 12:37 PM:
" Wow HOMER you come in here to try and insult me and cannot even get your own english correct. If you are going to bash me you should be sure you are correct before doing so. "
homer wrote on Aug 25, 2008 12:30 PM:
" oh onares...coming online to call someone narrow-minded, mis-spell words, and sound like an idiot... glad i could my daily dose in. thank you. ya know, normally generalizing and calling someone ELSE narrow-minded don't belong together. good day, lacrosse. "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 12:21 PM:
" I love you, medic! "
Medic wrote on Aug 25, 2008 12:14 PM:
" Also....what do you think would trash the house more....police trying to uphold the LAW.....or a bunch of drunken young 'adults' (we will use that term very loosely to describe those there). So it says a couple of cops got injured, does it say that any of the civilians got injured??? I say this was handled well that they practiced enough restraint to not beat these idiots severly (which would have been easily justified). I will never understand what goes in the very small space between the ears of some of you. "
Medic wrote on Aug 25, 2008 12:10 PM:
" Narrow minded idiots on here. Listen to the masters of the universe that know how each situation could be handled so that everyone can give eachother a hug and a box of chocolates at the end of the altercation. None of you who are being the negative on here have the FIRST clue of what it means to 'Protect and Serve' the population of waterheads like yourselves that cry out for help from the police and then cry to anyone who will listen about the manner it was served to you! "
CJ wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:42 AM:
" It's really to bad officer Kenworthy wasn't a Sparta cop yet he'd a been a good one to get tuned up the idiot he was as a cop there. "
CJ wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:41 AM:
" Rickey mommy must have left you home alone again today.........I find it hard to believe you're a Vet. "
packer backer wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:29 AM:
" Hey Rickey, would that be the cops or the party dudes? "
Rickey wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:19 AM:
" I really wish they would steal drugs and be cheaters like the McCains and then the people would love Them "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:16 AM:
" As I stated previously, your petty little statements just go to prove that you are very shallow and narrow minded. If your going to try and make an argument for something why don't you try something that matters rather then picking on the spelling of a word. But of course with the liberal mentality that is all you can see is the small stuff that really does not matter. "
girlfriend wrote on Aug 25, 2008 11:02 AM:
" OnaRes: 'typical liberal'. Wow!! you're brilliant too! Thanks for using spell check on those two very big words. puts us typical liberals at ease! "
therealdeal24 wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:59 AM:
" lets get the facts straight before you bash the parents, "underage drinkers" in this case were all 20 years old(adults in all other aspects), not minors! 2 minors were on the premise but were 100% alcohol free. and the cops can verify that! "
Wheezer wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:39 AM:
" Oh cj...I left out the part where the 1st cop put on his breaks for the major intersection I saw him pass through, but not the 2nd cop....he just blew right threw. With only their red lights on, I am glad there wasn't anyone trying to proceed through the intersection for the 2nd cop....or we might have finally had a traffic death in Sparta because of their excessive speed. All in due time... "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:37 AM:
" Thank you Girlfriend I am glad you can see that I do know it all. As far as my spelling of a word, if that is all you have then you have truly shown you are a liberal. Concerned with the small stuff and not paying attention to the big picture, typical liberal. "
seekthetruth wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:36 AM:
" All it takes to provoke a young drunk male is to look at them wrong. No mention of tasers being used. Why not condemn the parents who allowed this to happen and put them in jail and charge them with the assaults. Have Social Services charge them with being incompetent parents? Our police have problems with their abuse of power sometimes, but they are not always the bad guy. Too many comments have been conjectures with no valid data from the contents of this story. "
Wheezer wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:36 AM:
" Hey cj....a little over a week ago I was going for a walk in the wee hours of the morning. One police car went by going around 45 mph. One minute later, *SWOOSH* goes the 2nd at 60+ mph!!! Later last week I read in the paper what the big EMERGENCY was. Someone had hit a fire hydrand, ran from the scene, and entered a nearby house. Yeah, the police were risking the safety of the citizens to race to a scene with no injuries and they knew right where the suspect was. Adrenaline junkies, those Sparta cops are! "
Chip wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:23 AM:
" If it hasn't been said yet - You've got to fight....for your right....to par-tay! "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:16 AM:
" AHHHHHHHHH This could get real good.
Over zealous cops who cant use pepper spray correctly breaking into a house and illegally physically trying to remove a resident guest by force and they get their a$$e$ kicked after abusing the dogs.Man Im glad im not the insurance company holding the policy for the city of Sparta.Let me guess it was no knock warrant without the warrant right?TOTAL IDIOTS,
You wait you use surveilance and you get a warrant then enter and arrest or whatever.Nice and neat of course if your their for personal reasons HMMMMM and dont want the boss to know thats another story. Sounds like a shakedown to me that went wrong! "
therealdeal24 wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:10 AM:
" Oh I forget to ask another question for those who know more about the police and are supporting anything they do, is it common practice to issue the underage people tickets, then leave them at house with all the alcohol so if they chose to continue to drink they could. could they get another ticket in the same evening? "
free_speech wrote on Aug 25, 2008 10:03 AM:
" It's been awhile since the Sparta dirt bags made the paper. Nice work fellas! "
therealdeal24 wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:47 AM:
" I hate to tell all of you who support the local police, but I can tell you the assalt happened inside the house after the officer tried to physically pull someone outside because they were refused entrance to the house.And they failed to tell the truth that one of the officers injured did it themselves by over use of pepper spray, that was not and injury by another person. "
uwp wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:46 AM:
" I find it hard to beleive the assulting was done outside the house. Unless you know something that I don't. "
uwp wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:44 AM:
" Trust me they entered the house, and from what I hear caused quite a mess. I wouldn't expect less from SOME of these sprata cops. If they didn't get a warrant, I can see some of the drinkers getting out of tickets...dont' know about assulting an officer though, imo that was a bonehead move. "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:41 AM:
" uwp- a search warrant isn't needed once you assault an officer. "
cj wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:40 AM:
" Wheezer is right on and if not speeding to a scene I see more of them messing with the computer in their car than watching the road in Sparta. "
therealdeal24 wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:38 AM:
" ok so everyone can speculate on this all they want, it is under my understanding that no police reports are available at this point so how everyone has info on this is amazing, I just want to know is it normal practice to destoy property, refuse protection of pets in house the pepper spray them,(as was told by an officer, they are only dogs!) so it is ok that the dog loses all body functions and the police walk through it and don't care they injured the dog after they were asked if the dogs could be secured in their kennel for protection of all parties, but they were refused. And they knew the name of the person they wer persuing so why was it so hard to let them calm down and reason with them, the officers created the "out of control". "
girlfriend wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:31 AM:
" no nelly. not a relative. don't even know any of the details. i was responding to your comment. i actually am on your side when it comes to cop bashing. i don't agree with it at all. AND i'm a liberal. yes, i said i'm on your side. scary isn't it??
oh and to onares: it's spelled hypocritical. there's nothing worse than a know-it-all who can't spell!! "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:31 AM:
" UWP...where in the article does it say that the police broke into a house? If they were allowed into the house by one of the people inside they had every right then to be in the house. The article does not say whether the officer ever did enter the house, I would assume they did but not without being allowed to. "
uwp wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:21 AM:
" I think there is more to this story than it leads on. First of all, I was at this so called "out of control" party, but left becuase I was bored! Now thats not to say it didn't get out of hand later, but I have trouble beleiving so if there were only 10 people there, 4 of which were over 21, and none in highschool. Also, since when did obtaining a search warrant not matter before breaking into a house (seriously, I don't know the laws regarding this.) In any case it still doesn't make it acceptable to strike an officer. Can't wait to go back to school where the cops are reasonable and don't kick, pepper spary, taze, and destroy a house for underage drinking. "
common-cents wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:17 AM:
" I can see a huge COMP claim on this one. Sparta better hire more cops, a 5 second choke hold equals 16 months on workers comp for cops.
If your a cop how can any punk kid do you like that without him going to the hospital.
Cops and fireman call it messaging the system. "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:17 AM:
" Not a dispatcher. And you've obviously smoked more than your usual amount of dope this morning if you think I'm a crackhead. If you had respect for officers and obeyed the law, you wouldn't be this offended. I'm guessing you're a relative of one of the two accused in this case...I'm extremely glad you're not on our side. "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:11 AM:
" as far as liberals are concerned, they just talk out of their a#s because their mouth knows better. "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:09 AM:
" Way to go nelly, I agree. These people in here bashing the police are the same people who you see in the police blotter on a regular basis. The only people that hate and bash on the police are the same scum that keeps the police busy, but yet who is the first person they will call when they need help, sound hipocritical to me. "
girlfriend wrote on Aug 25, 2008 9:03 AM:
" nelly: so what you're saying is that you're not only a crackhead but you're a 911 dispatcher too? and who says conservatives can't multi-task!! "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 8:46 AM:
" You mean I actually offended a liberal????? Shocking. I hope you don't waste your entire day crying over it. And as for my phone number....dial 911 and you'll get me :D "
girlfriend wrote on Aug 25, 2008 8:30 AM:
" re: nelly
How wrong you are. i'm offended by your stereotypical blather. i am a liberal at heart AND i still obey the law and have respect for authority. Oh and...since i don't personally know any crackheads to call in an emergency...can i have your number instead? "
cataractjack wrote on Aug 25, 2008 8:25 AM:
" You wait an see. I am sure the parents were aware of the party and were probably down town in one of Sparta's 36 bars getting drunk themselves. Things never change. I grew up in this town years ago and that was it. We never hit any cops as teenagers, we were normally to drunk to stand besides fight. "
nelly wrote on Aug 25, 2008 6:26 AM:
" Officers do not respond to noise complaints emergent. And just because the officers aren't fat doesn't mean they can't do their job. The insinuation that the officers did something to provoke being attacked by multiple drunk people is disgusting. Apparently we have a bunch of liberals signing on this morning. The next time you're in trouble, don't call the police, call a crackhead. Lets see how that works for you. "
ryeguy wrote on Aug 25, 2008 6:24 AM:
" Oh, and there is this thing called "escalation of force." The cops get to win any fight. You punch them, they get to hit you with a stick. You choke them and they get to shoot you. No kidding. This kid is lucky the police showed restraint. "
ryeguy wrote on Aug 25, 2008 6:22 AM:
" These kids are kind of scary. It suggests to me that they have a lot to lose, and also are used to getting their own way with things. Could they be athletes who are going to lose their fall privileges and scholarships for next year? Could they be school "leaders" who just saw Princeton go bye-bye? Or maybe they have priors and face not having their juvie records expunged?
Whose house was it? They need to bear some of the responsibility too, especially if they condoned it. I say throw the book at all of 'em. "
Jaxx wrote on Aug 25, 2008 6:08 AM:
" I guess that I am just a little surprised that these kids had the audacity to hit a police officer. I bet alot of people out there remember getting caught by the police for underage drinking (myself included) who took their underage ticket with a good dose of humility because we didn't want to spend the night out in the woods. Does it really break down to what the cops did to "provoke" the kids? Or does it break down to have some respect for people in authority, who may one day be saving your life? "
Wheezer wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:21 AM:
" ....I bet they responded to this call by driving 60+ mph to the party. Remember that accident where the truck (that was at a stand still) was overturned? Yeah, except for one time that I have seen, it is back to the races for each call in Sparta. These Keystone Cops just let the adrenaline get out of control! And, good point, Paladin "
The Real Paladin wrote on Aug 25, 2008 5:16 AM:
" I'm guessing that there is more to the story. People in general don't attack cops for no apparent reason. What did the cop do that was so offensive that he provoked multiple people at a party to attack him? "
Sully wrote on Aug 25, 2008 4:52 AM:
" No wonder. Have you seen what passes for cops.
I know this makes me sound old, but when I was younger cops were big dudes with no problem in taking care of business if you know what I mean. Now they look like 16 year olds who are about 5'8" and weigh like 160 lbs. Often there is no physical intimidation factor. Its hard to take a cop seriously when you can put them over you knee and send them to their room. Don't get me wrong. I respect the police. It just seems like we are putting people at risk who are not big enough to handle a physical encounter, or head one off because of their perceived ability to dominate the situation. I won't even bring up the little bitty girl officers. I hope all ends well. "
mizmo wrote on Aug 25, 2008 2:27 AM:
" Kimmie... not that I live in Sparta, but how does this make you feel safe. Is it that kids are out of control and have not been taught what is right, what is wrong by their parents? Or is it that when humans are attacked by of other humans they can be hurt. I sense a bit of cop bashing on your comment, I could be wrong - but I don't think that is the case. Do you expect the cops to be super human and not get hurt when they may be out numbered? Would you suggest the use of weapons to control the out of control kids, then you'd be crying abuse or some crock like that... get a grip, but if Im wrong you have my most sincere apologies. "
kimmie wrote on Aug 25, 2008 1:55 AM:
" This makes me feel real safe! "
cataractjack wrote on Aug 24, 2008 11:39 PM:
" My relatives are at it again. "
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