Cole~ wrote on Sep 3, 2008 8:49 AM:
" While there is a great deal of anger revolving around the accident of Aunt Karen and the drunk driver Holloway.I would like to add to the postings, one of our family members had to speak directly to Holloway and for someone who is to be such a good person, there was no question as to the status of the child or how the family was doing. NO REMORSE what so ever. OH the officer on the scene does have an uncoached statement from the child. Sorry to say, but yes I would believe a SOBER child compared to a 23 drunk with more then one offense. And I would venture to say that Holloway has driven intoxicated more then 2 times, he just happen to kill someone this time and that is unforgivable regardless of how good of a person he may or may not be. "
mel74 wrote on Aug 31, 2008 7:23 PM:
" txprincess let me start by telling you what kind of town Warrens is.We are a small town, but one that cares for our neighbors. We support our friends and family regardless of what others may think.Also read the rest of the article and you will see how much Phllip had to pay,it was more than just a signature bond. "
txprincess wrote on Aug 31, 2008 10:09 AM:
" My concern continues to grow on what kind of town Warren truly is. Seeing how the day that an amazing life was taken by a repeat offender and 4 other dui/dwi charges were reported in the weekend alone. Yet the judge who obviously is from the backwoods of God knows where and has never lost anyone by a senseless act of stupidity releases Phillip Holloway on a signature bond! Seriously! Maybe its just me but a repeat offender kills somebody (as some would say an accident-WHATEVER) and he pays nothing to be released. I hope he is not indulging on to much for the labor day weekend holiday...I would hate for someone to get hurt!-again "
babyd08 wrote on Aug 29, 2008 6:43 PM:
" Go Sarah!!! :) thank you warrensgirl2! "
Warrens girl 2 wrote on Aug 29, 2008 10:26 AM:
" Re: red11****learn to read! I did NOT say it was anyones fault! There are a lot of people pointing out Phillip's wrong doing...I am trying to say neither one was right! "
red11 wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:47 AM:
" warren girl 2- my uncle has been in alot of accidents because of drinking and driving, and luckily he has not KILLED ANYONE. He is in prison, and I think it is a good place for him, because he is an alcoholic, and he will never learn. If somebody gets caught for drinking and driving you think that they would learn from the first time. So, your telling me that if Phillip was on that 4 wheeler and he got killed by a drunk driver, that it would be his fault. I CALL BULL!!!!! "
Warrens girl 2 wrote on Aug 29, 2008 9:04 AM:
" As for Jessica and S. Dreyer...You have a LOT of support from this community! I am sorry your brother has to go through this. He did not deserve this. Phillip is a good person. There are a lot of thoughts and prayers going out to you and all of Phillip's family as you struggle through this terrible ordeal. "
SaraHed wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:56 AM:
" First Brokenlady I am with my sister JessLow why don't you come forward and let us know who you are to be stating these comments about our family and Phillip. What have we ever done to you? You have no idea what my brother is going through.
Second Twilite...what gives you the right to go out there and post all this old stuff about Phillip from when he was younger. Nobody can say that they have never drove after having a few drinks or never worn the seat belt.
Our family does feel for the family of Karen. But they both were in the wrong. She never should of been on the road and neither should of Phillip. Why don't you all stop with your comments and leave my family alone and get a real life. "
Warrens girl 2 wrote on Aug 29, 2008 8:48 AM:
" Re-red11...You seem very aggravated with all of the people posting on this topic. You say that if he was not drinking and driving this would not have happened...In this area, there are designated areas for ATV's to ride on called trails. Karen was on a pubic road...Is that legal? Were they wearing helmets? Is it legal for two people to ride on a 4-wheeler? Especially a small child? As far as not needing people out on the streets...I think he was not out on the streets, he was out on a back country DIRT road. People are not saying that he does not need to pay for the crime, but go to prison for a LONG time??? If this was your son/brother/family, would you feel the same? If you would, then I feel sorry for you. "
red11 wrote on Aug 29, 2008 7:56 AM:
" The accident would have happened even if he wasn't drinking. Maybe if he wasn't drinking he would have had enough time to slam on the brakes and never hit this lady. He was intoxicated and your reaction time is slower. I feel very sorry for Karen and her family. He does need to spend time in prison for this. ANOTHER RIMINDER DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE. AND AGAIN YOU THINK HE WOULD HAVE LEARNED HIS LESSON THE FIRST TIME HE GOT PICKED UP FOR DRINKING AND DRIVING. We do not need people like this out on the streets. "
ame25 wrote on Aug 28, 2008 6:50 PM:
" I am very sorry for what happend to Karen, and I believe Phil should be held responsible for his actions,(which he is taking responsibility) how ever they were both at fault and I do not think Phil should spend the rest of days in prision. Him seeing that lady coming at him and hearing that little girl scream will haunt him for the rest of his life, that is punishment. "
mel74 wrote on Aug 28, 2008 6:40 PM:
" I am sorry for the death of your Aunt,but they were BOTH at fault. "
txprincess wrote on Aug 28, 2008 6:08 PM:
" One quick reminder...if it was just an accident he would not have charged with homicide by intoxicated use of a vehicle, operating while intoxicated causing injury and operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated-second offense in the death of our Aunt Karen! Again I am only sorry for what his stupidity put our family and his family through, he made the choice of his fate! "
mel74 wrote on Aug 28, 2008 5:50 PM:
" red11 Lock him up for good? what do you know, this accident would have happend even if he wasn't drinking. The drinking did not cause the accident. It was just an ACCIDENT! "
txprincess wrote on Aug 28, 2008 4:42 PM:
" I was privlaged enough to meet Karen just a short 3yrs ago when I married her nephew. I can understand the fraustration of all the community but just ask everyone to remember that we are burying our aunt in less then 24hrs from the careless act of one individual. I will pray for him and his family but find a cold spot in my heart seeing how he is a repeat offender! I do not quite understand how any person can blame a victim of a drunk driver at fault, especially since all the facts are not clear, the word of the defendent is not a verification to me. Please I continue to ask for your prayers and thank you for your concerns. "
red11 wrote on Aug 28, 2008 4:18 PM:
" There might be people around every corner that are not paying attention. BUT I DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE! You think he would have learned his lesson the first time he got caught drinking and driving. I don't feel a bit sorry for him. You drink and drive you pay for what you do wrong. LOCK HIM UP FOR GOOD!!!! "
Greybear wrote on Aug 28, 2008 4:01 PM:
" This situation is a series of unfortunate events. Both parties were very much in the wrong and a terrible outcome came of it where 2 sets of families are suffering to lengths we can only imagine. The ATV rider should not have been on the road driving where she was (especially with a 3 year old) and Phil, especially given his history, should not have gotten behind the wheel. If you are not in possession of all the facts, pointing fingers only leads to more confusion - let the court system fight it out and come to a valid conclusion. "
babyd08 wrote on Aug 28, 2008 3:22 PM:
" Red11: I bet you have NEVER done anything wrong in your entire life. This could've happened to ANYONE coming around that curve! They were both in the wrong. I will continue to support and love my brother because I know what actually happened. Thank you MJensen for the support of my brother and our family. S. Dreyer, Phil's other older sis "
mjensen28 wrote on Aug 28, 2008 2:26 PM:
" hey does anyone know if they knew if she was drinking? or if she has a record for drinking. or under the influence of anything. i just think that its wayyyy tooo weird if she wasnt because any 60 year old that even has a small functional brain would no better than to ride down a road that isnt atv permitted. especailly with a 3 year old. "
mjensen28 wrote on Aug 28, 2008 2:21 PM:
" red11...the next time that you are in your vehicle why don't you stop and take a moment to think that around every corner you turn there might be someone there heading towards you, not paying attention. god forbid you couldn't lock up your brakes in time. BAM!! oh my god... SEND HIM AWAY!!! FOR EVER!!!! Both were in the wrong. Phil is the only one that has to live with it. As for phils family,.. you have the support of A LOT of people. and your in my prayers "
red11 wrote on Aug 28, 2008 1:26 PM:
" You do have the right to defend your brother, but he committed a crime, and he better go to prison for a long time. "
BABYD08 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:32 PM:
" YEAH SISSY!!! "
jesslow wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:20 PM:
" Broken Lady I would like u to state ur name instead of hiding behind some blog. If ur going to write this about my family u should have the nerve to tell us to our face. You were not there u do not know the situation. Until placed in this position u have know idea what my family or my brother is going through. Phillip is a good hearted person and this was an accident and both parties did wrong. If u would like to tell me to my face that Phillip deserves what is coming to him please feel free my name is Jessica Lowry Phillip's older sister and I love him always will no matter what and we support him through this horriable time. His pain is deep and you have no idea what your talking about. "
gwTtowner wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:53 PM:
" And Brokenlady how DARE you think in your tiny little brain anyone in his family or relatives think this is funny. All it does is show how little you really do know him and his family. Were not all perfect angels like you B lady. "
gwTtowner wrote on Aug 27, 2008 3:49 PM:
" As usual most are passing judgements when all they have is whats in the Lacrosse Tribune and the little background check they did..Good work you online detectives you!! I went to Highschool with Phil and he would do anything for me as I would do the same for him. Don't pass judgments when all you have is the Lacrosse Tribune's mediocre facts. Phil is a caring guy and this is hurting him a lot more than I think any of you will ever understand. "
babyd08 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 2:11 PM:
" brokenlady:
You know NOTHING of our family or my brother. "
stubby wrote on Aug 27, 2008 2:04 PM:
" Thank you mjensen28. I am not condolling drinking and driving, but wouldn't you think a 60 year old women would know the law when it comes to ATV usage. Especially when she has a 3 year old with her. I agree, both are at fault here, but she will not have to deal with it will she! This young man should not be held totally responsible for this accident, whether he was drinking or not, she was obviously breaking the law herself. "
Warrens girl 2 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 2:01 PM:
" Re-brokenlady...Maybe you should be praying for yourself for passing judgement on people you know nothing about. Phillip's family does not think this is any way funny! And spending time behind bars does not make a better person. He will pay for his mistake every day for the rest of his life. He is a good person and he did not deserve what happened anymore than the other family did. "
Twilite wrote on Aug 27, 2008 1:51 PM:
" Warrens girl: he doesn't make a habit out of drinking & driving? "Holloway was convicted in Monroe County in July 2005 of driving with a prohibited alcohol concentration. He was charged in June with drunken driving, also in Monroe County. A motion hearing is set for Sept. 30...His record in Wisconsin also includes convictions for underage drinking, failure to wear a seatbelt and inattentive driving, according to online court records." Hmmm "
mel74 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 1:29 PM:
" re-brokenlady I would like to know who you think you are or where you got your info. His family does not think this accident is funny. you have no idea the pain his family has been through because of drunk driving accidents. I know the victims family is grieving, but so is Phillip's family. "
ame25 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 1:02 PM:
" re- brokenlady how do you know anything about him or his family.i know for a fact that his family has never thought that these situations are funny, and i don't where you get off thinking that you can judge him or his family when you clearly don't know the facts. "
Warrens girl 2 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 12:46 PM:
" Justice system??? I just read about a guy who shot and killed his own son thinking he was a turkey. Drugs and alcohol were both involved. He got 30 days and community service!! Phil does not deserve to be hung for this! Both were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Phil is a good kid/hard worker. He does not make a habit out of drinking and driving! It was an ACCIDENT!! "
mjensen28 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 12:34 PM:
" that particular road is in my back yard. and there are NO atv's allowed on the road for 4 or 5 miles from where she was at. NONE. It really is too bad that Phil was drinking but i sure hope that this has been a lesson to the family. Stay on marked trails. Both of them were in the wrong but I personally believe that he should not go to prison for this. if she wouldn't have been on that road then this wouldn't have happened. whether phil was DRUNK or NOT!!! she killed herself. "
red11 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:29 AM:
" This is so sad. When will people learn not to drink and drive. I say lock him up for good! "
brokenlady wrote on Aug 27, 2008 8:22 AM:
" Clarification - this young man has been drinking & been allowed to drink since way b4 he ever received a drivers license. Some families believe it a right of passage to start drinking as soon as they are a teenager (ie 13)especially around this area. I would like to see this person spend a lot of time behind bars. He needs to be held responsible for his actions & maybe it will get throught to his relatives that it's not so funny anymore. I pray for the family that lost their loved one & hope that the 3 year old is too young to remember any on this horrible accident. Now it is time for the justice system to make Mr. Holloway pay for his horrible crime. "
warrens girl wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:55 AM:
" this is not a black top road, it is a dirt road off a county road, and there are some spots where you are allowed to drive atv's in there, other spots have posted no atv's signs on them. it's either state or county land that has numerous dirt roads all over it and people like to go cruising around in there for fun. it is also a popular drinking road too. he should not have been driving. it sucks for both families involved. "
jam262003 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:49 AM:
" one more thing to soccermom21 if you are on an atv with a 3 YEAR OLD and you are on a vehicle that can go almost ANYWHERE unless it was over a hill there is no reason for someone not to see a car comming at them and get out of the way not deluting the drinking part but unless what he said is true she was looking behind her
seen it, been there before, lots of people do it "
jam262003 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:43 AM:
" you can drive on roads but you need to follow the rules also like stay on your side and under speed limit it is very sad about this lady how awful.me and my 5yr old go you need to always pay attention to everything especially with a child on back. when are people going to learn not to drink and drive how stupid!! some really kill people doing this and some get charged for it just cuz they were drinking. are people really still that selfish "
soccermom21 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:37 AM:
" Stubby.....you say what was the atv doing driving down the middle of the road.? Well did you read the part of the article where it says that he was drinking,and sometimes when you have been drinking things do not appear as clear to you as if you were not. So lets consider the source and his previous convictions. "
stubby wrote on Aug 27, 2008 5:57 AM:
" I understand the severity of this situation, but.......at the same time, what was the ATV doing riding down the middle of the road. I'm to understand that they are not allowed to be driven on roads! Clarification please. "
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