Baukman wrote on Aug 28, 2008 2:46 PM:
" We will see tralee. Naive or not, Sparta Police's 3rd shift still used excessive force. "
tralee wrote on Aug 28, 2008 1:29 PM:
" Baukman: Are you kidding me? Because you think they "know better" than to assault an officer, you think they couldn't have done that? If that was the case, no one would commit any crimes what-so-ever because they "know better". If you are that naive, you need help. "
D. Ray wrote on Aug 28, 2008 1:27 PM:
" Regardless of how you feel on the subject, this certainly doesn't help the case of those who wish to lower the drinking age. "
Oh My wrote on Aug 28, 2008 12:27 PM:
" Sparta - two six niners (269) what more needs to be said? "
ACE wrote on Aug 28, 2008 11:55 AM:
" Back in my days if the cops came to the "house party" people shut up and kissed the cops a$$ not act like a big tough guy and ASSAULT them! Throw them all in jail and their parents too for raising spoiled brats! They are ADULTS! "
Baukman wrote on Aug 28, 2008 11:52 AM:
" No I was not there anti...but I do know more than what the police are releasing. I agree that it is unacceptable to strike a police officer for any reason, but coming from these individuals there they know better than to swing, push, or even put an officer in a headlock. Police lie, they are people. All I am saying is there is more behind this story than what people are being led to believe. "
antieverything wrote on Aug 28, 2008 11:16 AM:
" Baukmann... the cops had cause and if you were one of the participants your spiral downward has become. Get your head in a better spot. "
cataractjack wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:24 PM:
" a few things - one is last I heard you do not jump on a cops back and try to get him in a head lock and get punched by another guy. If this was LA or Chitown these guys both would be in the morge. All people here should be happy it was Sparta cops. In LA the cop would have pulled his gun and killed them both in 2 seconds. Happens everyday here. The mother is a loser. Hopefully she is renting because she will be sued by the officers in a civil case. She is the one to blame and these are not kids. 19-21 year olds. "
Baukman wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:48 PM:
" All of your speculations are a joke. None of you were there, None of you saw what happened. Lets hear the other side of the story. Everyone is so quick to judge without all the facts. Facts are facts, and once cops unlawfully entered the house, all charges should be dropped as it. Rip apart Sparta, rip apart the people there...and nothing about the corrupt police force. Why is that? Once this goes to court, we shall see. "
TruthHurts wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:37 PM:
" Just a tidbit of information, take it or leave it. The officers were lawfully on scene. While in contact with subjects outside of the residence, at least one of the officers was assaulted, which is a felony. The suspected felon then fled into the residence. The officers then conducted a warrantless entry into the residence and effected the arrest of the suspect(s). The warrantless entry of the residence was lawful under the "Hot Pursuit" exception of the 4th amendment. Exigent circumstances allow law enforcement personnel to conduct warrantless entries/searches of places or things where they would normally need a search warrant for. Knowledge is power. "
The Real Paladin wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:30 PM:
" Trib editor---don't delete my comments because you don't agree or because I think paladin is an idiot and said so. "
Cards wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:05 PM:
" Get a clue lady and quit blaming the police for your incompetent parenting! "
Josie wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:45 PM:
" binques, I checked the Circuit Court records, she was the petitioner in that case, not the respondent. "
Anna wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:40 PM:
" I wonder if the officers' accounts differ from the partygoers because--oh, I dunno--the officers WEREN'T DRINKING.
Real nice family. Stellar. "
binques wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:38 PM:
" So, has anyone checked the Wisconsin Circuit Court Access for the woman. Looks like there was a bench warrent issued in Mar 2008. I'm just saying, the woman has had other encounters with the law - perhaps they have colored her attitude. "
binques wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:32 PM:
" The woman was not even at the party. She received details from the kids at the party - who had been drinking, some of whom are underage and who have 2 friends in trouble for attacking officers. Hmmmmmmm....those kids couldn't possible skew the story to make themselves look innocent? And she couldn't possibly want to deflect scrutiny from her role in the underage drinking and to protect the "kids" (2 of whom were grown-up enough to go after cops)? Nawwww...just not possible. Ha! "
afan wrote on Aug 27, 2008 9:14 PM:
" Seriously!? This lady needs to come back to the real world. The officer was assaulted they don't need a warrant. Also she knew they were drinking and there were minors, so who is ultimately responsible? Isn't she? "
tlscao wrote on Aug 27, 2008 8:30 PM:
" Less than 10 of her son John Dullers close friends attended the party, Hesselberg said. She knew all those in attendance and said the youngest was 19.
May be a stupid question but if shes filing charges against the department...ummmjust off the top of my head shouldn't she be held accoutable for the underage drinkers that were there. Obviously she knew about it HELLO!!! "
Frank Zissou wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:39 PM:
" If the police entered unlawfully and used force, the "party goers" are fully innocent. They have every right to keep whoever they want out of their home. Police have power trips, its a known fact, drunk people are hard to control another known fact, just don't mix the two, or we get stupid stories to laugh at. Where are those tasers they love using? "
uwp wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:29 PM:
" Probably just firecrackers longarmer. One way to solve this problem is lower the drinking age back to 18, but maybe keep it at 21 for liquor. Also crack down on drinking and driving more with stiffer penalites since that is what a lot of people are worried about. I'm sure this would solve a lot of the underage problems. "
longarmer wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:56 PM:
" A few weeks ago we were at a campfire out near Mindoro,the kids in the next house up were left alone as their parents camped. Not sure if there was drinking going on but I was pretty sure there were gunshots. Hey Parents, wake up, can you really trust them with everything you own. "
DJ: wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:54 PM:
" ...wah wah, mommy please bail me out...
Grow up lady, and smell the roses! "
The Shining wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:47 PM:
" The woman sounds like the typical sidewalk or armchair attorney. Hey lady, grow up already. It's no wonder your kids are the way they are. Future inmates is what they are. "
The Shining wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:45 PM:
" Maybe the parents of all of these kids needed to learn how to raise their children instead of letting them turn into a group of thugs who have no sense of responsibility. And to the people suing the police, you need to get a life. Start teaching your kids that when they do something wrong they need to take the blame and stop blaming other people. You people are all pathetic!!! "
Insatiable wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:29 PM:
" I want to start by saying I live in Sparta and that I agree with what everyone is saying. But I have noticed that this is how people here work. They are humiliated because they didn't raise their children to know right from wrong and that drinking underage (or buying for those underage) was okay. They do all they can to shift the blame and the focus on to someone else.
But I want to know if the parents of the other kids at the party were aware of the drinking? Oh wait, it is Sparta, they probably bought it.
This has nothing to do with corrupt cops in a small town...it has everything to do with corrupt parents who will do anything to save their precious image. Admit you were wrong and move on. "
ep77 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:28 PM:
" Sparta, WI. What else needs to be said! Only in Sparta would someone try to push this on the cops. Underage drinking and being to loud does not warrant attacking a police officer PERIOD! Unless you live in Sparta LOL! So to Johna Hesselberg, get a life! "
sam520 wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:04 PM:
" "she wants she wants she wants" Maybe she would "want" to look at her self and family first. Then maybe she may not "want" so much to look at cops or other people as the problem. "
dmm wrote on Aug 27, 2008 5:59 PM:
" About 10 kids are having an underage drinking party. The police show up. A scuffle ensues. Blame the police? Nice parenting. How does she expect the kid to act if she is always making excuses for him. Her kid broke the law. Pay the underage drinking ticket and move on. His buddies took it a step further by assaulting the officer and are probably in a little more heat. "
wizard wrote on Aug 27, 2008 5:33 PM:
" In this you dont know who to believe.Sparta area Police have been investigated and officers arrested for corruption in the last couple years.Funny 3 cops go to the hospital for injuries at a juvenile drinking party. I bet the juveniles needed a doctor too after the incident but never got one. Sorry but police are people and they lie alot for convictions. Not all cops graduate at the top of their class, and law enforcement lures authority freaks needing a release. "
ML wrote on Aug 27, 2008 5:30 PM:
" Again, La Crosse Tribune: why is this newsworthy? We do not care about losers in Sparta complaining that the police showed up when their party spun out of control. Now, if you want to tell us that something's finally been done about the REAL criminals around Sparta, get back to us. Otherwise don't waste our time with anything about that hellhole. "
OnaRes wrote on Aug 27, 2008 5:15 PM:
" People just do not understand the law, once that officer was assaulted they did not need a warrent to go inside and arrest the resposible party. She says she wants everyone responsible held responsible, she had better take a good look at her son. Everbody always want to blame others, it is all about personal responsibility. "
Paladin wrote on Aug 27, 2008 5:14 PM:
" She said: I want everyone who was responsible for what happened here to be held responsible, Sounds like she wants to put the blame on the police and not the people responsible for the police being called. This woman is a joke. "
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