Ignorance is bliss wrote on Sep 7, 2008 9:43 AM:
" Once again the liberal green crybabies (who just happen to be the ones responsible for REGULATING THE HELL out of every business in our country) are the ones that have caused these same job producing companies over seas. It sure is funny how Mexico's and China's pollution is ok, and won't affect our planet (Mother Earth) as much as our cleaner pollution would have. They made it much harder for business to make a buck, then whine when these businesses go elsewhere to make that same buck. These same idiots are the ones buying MORE of the products being made in the cheaper more polluting countries. I guess that black hole won't affect us if it's over Mexico or China. "
Athenry wrote on Sep 7, 2008 12:36 AM:
" hey Big Spender, how about getting back to the present, we can debate forever about past problems from BOTH parties... the issue NOW is who is most likely to actually do something about where we are at right here and now. The between O and McCain, McCain is the only one that has indicated how he plans to get us out of the situation. All O has done is try to scare people about who is to blame. The blame game only lasts so long, at some point, we need to DO something. O keeps saying the words change but has yet to go into any detail beyond the broadest strokes on how he plans to bring change. McCain on the other hand actually has a plan. "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:18 PM:
" To P.O'Bates, re: "his usual liberal-link rant"
My links aren't usually from liberal sources, they're mostly from mainstream corporate journalists and from mainstream corporate news organizations. The Boston Herald, the L.A. Times, and the N.Y. Times are called liberal by the far right, because the wingnuts don't know what real liberals are. There are very few true liberals in journalism, in politics, or in anything else.
Rank-and-file Republicans think that liberals have wrecked the country--but, if you look at it objectively, true liberals have never held power in the U.S. as they have in Europe (prosperous Sweden's very successful Social Democrats, for example). America is under corporate rule. "
enuffalready wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:12 PM:
" To BrianGSmith:
1.You are correct. The Republican party lost a golden opportunity when they controlled both the Congress and the Executive branches. I would say that they failed miserably.
2. Every president receives way too much credit for an economic upturn and conversely gets blamed excessively for an economic downturn. I would argue that they don't have much control over either of these scenarios.
3. Having said that, I'm sure that you would agree that President Bush had to deal with a historic event that devastated our economy, on a scale that we have never seen before.
4. In my opinion, the best scenario for us, the taxpayers, would be to have one party control the executive branch, and the other party control the Legislative Branch.
Your thoughts? And please, don't just spew the party talking points. That gets us nowhere.
Thanks. "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:08 PM:
" To P'O'Bates, re: "CONGRESS controls the purse strings, not the President. CONGRESS also authorizes war, not the President. The libs with their co-horts in the press like to switch the blame to the easiest Republican target."
And, the Republicans have controlled Congress for 12 of the last 13.6 years. And, during that time the national debt has doubled.
When has Bush proposed a balanced budget to Congress? Answer: never...
"Bush's proposed $3 trillion budget is biggest"
"With reactions like 'fiscal meltdown,' Democrats aren't ready to deal"
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22981657/
Also, Congress doesn't exercise many of its constitutional powers anymore: war declarations, etc. That's bad! "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 6:59 PM:
" To P.O'Bates, re: "
-Treasury Secretary's are like any other employee, if you aren't following the boss's road map, then you can get fired. No scandal, just reality."
Do we really want a president who surrounds himself with yes-men? The effective company hires bosses who listen to advisors that tell the objective truth; a company that thinks things are rosy despite all evidence to the contrary will go broke...like America is going broke!
GM, IBM, AMC, Chrysler, and even Microsoft got their butts kicked because they've not enough truth-sayers within their ranks. The yes-man can ruin a nation as easily as a company. "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 6:46 PM:
" To BGS, re: "The Repub's sowed the seeds for 6 years of total control and control in Congress for 12 of the last 14. This fiscal nightmare is all on the repub's"
Well said.
It's all quid pro quo behind the scenes...much of that Republican borrow-and-spend cash goes directly to their uber-rich campaign donors, both foreign and domestic:
"the largest corporate welfare expenditure of all time-ultimately set to cost taxpayers $500 billion in principal and interest-the S&L bailout" from
"Cutting Corporate Welfare" -- Ralph Nader
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Nader/CutCorpWelfare_Nader.html
The working class person who votes Republican is like the slave who demands that his master buy a bigger whip. "
just al wrote on Sep 6, 2008 4:10 PM:
" BGS, what is an Iraqu war? (3:32 post of yours) Glass houses son!! "
BrianGSmith wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:50 PM:
" Repub's were in lockstep with the Executive....when Dem's run the joint they've always got splits and factions.....but the past few republican led Congresses conducted no oversight and allowed some of the biggest fraud's in global history to be pulled smoothly over the American public. Wusses....Hagel aside, the rest are all feeding at the trough and care only to stay there spending US Taxpayer's dollars without thought, controls or repercussions "
BrianGSmith wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:46 PM:
" Ahh...I see Phil'O Bater is most concerned with namecalling and hissy fitting. "Bib Spitter"... "tinfoil-hat-wearing-conspiracy-theorist"...Bush was sold to America as the first Pres with an "MBA"....adults were in charge.....they'd run a tight ship. Stimulus packaging ($240 million rebate for ENRON) and selling global Missile Defense were the top priorities for Bush...and remain so. 9-11 was our Reichstad and we currently have a fascist gov't incestually intertwined with industry and the military....and now, also, much of the corporately owned media. Phil would have been a great German citizen in 1930's. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:37 PM:
" Dear "Brian"...Are you denying, in front of all debating here, that the Legislative branch of the US gov't did not authorize President Bush to go to war in Iraq as did Jackson? If so please read the material I posted to Jackson.
Enjoy the reading, I've got better things to do outside, then worry about wat yu ar ritting abot. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:32 PM:
" Dear "CJ"...The Repub's sowed the seeds for 6 years of total control and control in Congress for 12 of the last 14. This fiscal nightmare is all on the repub's.....Now don't forget to calculate the huge negative strain the miserably thought out Iraqu War has been. Not only in US Taxpayer dollars flushed away or robbed thru contracting frauds and schemes....but think of the lives lost in both populations...Iraqi civilians and our precious volunteer fighting forces. Their misuse is what should get Bush-Cheney strung up....if our Nation had the cajones. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:27 PM:
" Dear "Phil"...Are you denying, in front of all debating here, that the power and control of the Exec branch of the US gov't hasn't immensely grown since the Bush admin allowed 9-11 nine months into their "adult" leadership? Spying, torture, invading Iraq....all came from the Exec. Bush has written more "exec" orders.....overiding Congressional legislation, than any US Prez in history....What is your "angle"? Why stoop for such thieves and pillagers of American citizens? "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:23 PM:
" Ahh, I see Brian Smith is concerned about the most important things, like spelling and grammar.
You can tell when the elitists are aggrevated, they become a grammar snobs.
Brian's next step will be to accuse 'just al' of getting his 'panties in a twist' or something equally silly, then challenge him to a cage fight at Octoberfest (which he wont show up for because he's too busy galavanting around Europe).
These blogs can be entertaining once you get the M.O. of the usual players. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:17 PM:
" Hey Jackson, here's some reading material for you:
http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa101102a.htm
and
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/29/opinion/edcohen.php "
BrianGSmith wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:16 PM:
" Dear "just al" Wherever you may work it's quite clear spelling and an understanding of simple grammar is not required. "
daddylonglegs wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:11 PM:
" IMSTILLJACKSON-Wrap yourself in a flag and hide behind a bible, you can get away with anything. Get it?:) "
BrianGSmith wrote on Sep 6, 2008 3:10 PM:
" Dear "Athenry"...Can you back up your accusations? Site a source. You accuse the Dem's of "big spending"? Bush and the Republican controlled Congress have, in 6 years, added more to the US debt...thru BIG Spending....than ALL of our US Presidents combined. Republicans look stupid claiming they're fiscal conservatives when it was a Democrat Pres. who last balanced the budget. Obama's plans are smart, make sense and will produce a new path....new growth. As "Big Spender" pointed out...we've spent over $3 Trillion to defeat "50,000" (I think fewer) global Jihadi's? Are you kidding me? We crushed Italian Fascists, the Nazi's and the Imperial Japanese in less time and less money. Republicans have failed the Americans horribly. Ain't a single thing the Repub's have done right the past 7 years.... "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:23 PM:
" Just think what all that money were spending on Iraq could had done for this country.
A total depression is the only way out now to save the village we must 1st burn it down!
Govt knows it they created it while lining all their constituants pockets. Michael Welch and Mack I actually have to agree with you today!
Thats it im going to boost my local economy and get SOOOOOOOOOOOOO DRUNK! "
please wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:22 PM:
" RE: just al
Oh, DO TELL what kind of job you have that has no danger of being cut. Are you an oil executive?
And please elaborate on your idea of "bettering" yourself. "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:13 PM:
" Bates:CONGRESS controls the purse strings, not the President. CONGRESS also authorizes war, not the President.
Are you kidding and do you really believe this? Because if so your one scarry person to us free thinkers.The congress did not authorize or start this war THE PRESIDENT DID!
A president who stole the election that we the people did NOT elect. My how soon the media brainwashing erases the real truth for some. "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:10 PM:
" Daddylonglegs:The evildoers need to be put down, terrorists are trying to take away are liberties. Getting paid to defend the American way of life is the honorable thing to do. "
You are so brainwashed the govt is trying to take away your civil liberties and fighting for freedom and democracy may be honorable but in this economy will send a soldier and his family straight to the payday loan store! Support your troops yeah right the govt could start by paying them a living wage! "
davidinlse wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:08 PM:
" RE: tax-me-more wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:43 PM:
He did not say to export jobs to Mexico. He said Mexico has to improve THIER economy so THIER citizens stay in THIER country. As far as trade, this is his position, as he said at the Cleveland Democratic Debate, 2/26/08) We should renegotiate Nafta or opt out. "
tax-me-more wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:43 PM:
" The Shining
wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:09 AM:
" Well you can thank your good ol' Republicans for the unemployment rate going through the roof. They love to see jobs get shipped out of the country. "
Actually, Obama has said the solution to illegal immigration is to improve the Mexican economy. We've already sent millions of jobs south of the border, as these figures prove, and *** Obama WANTS TO SEND MORE JOBS TO MEXICO *** his own words during the Democratic debates. "
just al wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:35 PM:
" I do not know about all the whiners on here but my job does not get efected by anyone that is in Congress or the number one chair. Maybe if you guys would try to better yourself and attain a position that is sturdy then you would spend less time on the computer. Oh by the way I am pulling down close to six figures. "
please wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:26 PM:
" Blame whoever you want; Bush is "The Decider". Don't tell me that oil baron "W" and his sidekick, the war contractor, didn't have war on the brain a long time ago.
As far as McCain wanting to create new jobs: creating minimum wage jobs only creates more problems. He's not interested in the "poor" getting ahead; but he is interested in them doing the work for Big Business. "
Michael Welch wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:08 PM:
" Wal-Mart thanks you!... "
wizard wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:06 PM:
" Lets go shopping and go buy a bunch of Chinese stuff. "
Michael Welch wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:03 PM:
" And once the 'party line' is put out -- McCain is NOW for changing this 'greatest country,' an attitude for which Obama was pilloried -- Repubs admit 'mistakes' while sliding away from real responsibility. The prez ALWAYS is credited for good economic times -- no GOPper stooge like 'PO'B' would say congress (especially a Democratic congress!) DESERVES the MOST praise if the stats were good; THEN the Bush admin would be credited as 'genius' and 'PO'B' would happily assert same. He constantly complains I'm ever assuming his 'views' but his mind set is really pretty easy to read -- Repubs 'good'; Demos 'bad' and no one gets to heaven if they don't believe as 'PO'B' does... "
Kohl A. Robi wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:53 PM:
" Spending $14B a month for the war in Iraq is insane. Our infastrusture is crumbling as anyone can see. Bridges and interstates are in trouble and yet the Bush administration and GOP sees money for their cronies (Darth Cheney). Meanwhile we are fighting for our freedom from 50,000 or so renegades. All that we need to ask is "Are we better off as a nation the last 8 years?"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/06/us/06highway.html "
Michael Welch wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:50 PM:
" As I said: the losses will be assumed by the public; it's 'old news' but it's pertinent. Government intervention is NECESSARY because there was so little regulation throughout the 'bubble years.' And yes the Democrats have benefitted from supporting Fannie and Freddie and did NOT step up to the plate with alarity true, but the shifting of blame ENTIRELY in order to whitewash the Repubs is only politics. 'Capitalism' does not exist without 'risk' -- that's WHY the BIGGEST 'players' ALWAYS favor government intervention but only AFTER they've sucked it as dry as they can... "
davidinlse wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:38 PM:
" RE; Michael Welch wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:00 PM: What was just said on the radio about the Fanny Mae Ect. was that if,(when) the government takes over, they, beside assuming all the mortgage debt, will disolve the stock, and no investor will be paid.
RE; Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:59 AM:
Looks like you are getting your wish for an economic dictator.
Seems like old "
daddylonglegs wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:27 PM:
" Both democrats and republicans are the same. They both enrich their friends and family and both continue to destroy the middle class. Soon there will be (there already is) 2 classes. "Poor" and "Rich". I'm guessing most here will be in the former. "
Michael Welch wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:00 PM:
" The economy is now the -- surprise! -- major issue. McCain asserts that tax cuts weighted to those making $250,000+ will help but it helps them buy yachts; they are NOT investing in mortgage lending or the BUSH administration would not be taking over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at YOUR expense. The gov HAS TO of course because the mortgage crisis has run out of PRIVATE profits and MUST shift losses to the PUBLIC or lending will just 'dry up.' Repubs decry 'government intervention' but they'd have a much deadlier recession by Nov 4 if there weren't any. And over TEN YEARS of GOPper corruption on Jack Abramoff's 'K Street' has primed THIS pump; blaming the two years of a Democratic congress is just blatant political claptrap and shape shifting. McCain NOW wants to 'change' the country Bush made but his economic policies are all Bush regurgitated... "
CJ wrote on Sep 6, 2008 11:45 AM:
" As I figured no comments on what the Democratic lead Congress has done for the economy............get over it folks get off your butts and take care of yourselves this isn't a communist or socialist country you live in so if you want that then move to one. "
new world order wrote on Sep 6, 2008 10:27 AM:
" I will vote for Barack Obama in November. "
daddylonglegs wrote on Sep 6, 2008 9:57 AM:
" Jobs are not leaving this country. Get over it. Today i saw a sign at BK and they are hiring managers. "
daddylonglegs wrote on Sep 6, 2008 9:55 AM:
" There are plenty of jobs. The local recruiter would be glad to sign you up (possibly including a large bonus) and all you have to do is defend freedom and democracy. The evildoers need to be put down, terrorists are trying to take away are liberties. Getting paid to defend the American way of life is the honorable thing to do. "
Mack wrote on Sep 6, 2008 9:27 AM:
" Let's go to a 35 hr work week. Share the work and share the wealth.----Rant all you want. The facts are the economy always does better in a Democratic presidency, by about double. Probably because at least some of the wealth settles to the lower classes where it makes a difference. "
davidinlse wrote on Sep 6, 2008 9:06 AM:
" RE;Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:51 AM: Are you capable of posting anything without being as smart aleck jerk? You seem incapable of responding in an intelligent manner. People like you with your pathetic rants are why the republican's get no respect. And no, I'm not a democrat. But for your information, Bush did get notified in his daily briefing by Rice that an attack was imminent. They both finally admitted to that FACT. As such, he is directly responsible for the attack, and he should have been immediately impeached. But for the fact that Chenney was his vice, he probably would have been, but then we would be in full scale war long ago if he was president. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:59 AM:
" You hit the nail on the head CJ!
CONGRESS controls the purse strings, not the President. CONGRESS also authorizes war, not the President. The libs with their co-horts in the press like to switch the blame to the easiest Republican target.
What is sad is by blaming the President for things not in his control, or by allowing a candidate to say he'll change things not in his control, the press contributes to the ignorance of American politics. The only way a President can completely take charge of the economy is to be a dictator.
As a side note, I agree that when Republicans had control of the House and Senate they blew it. Republicans have become as bad as Democrats when it comes to uncontrolled spending. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:51 AM:
" Oh and thanks david for distinguishing yourself as a tinfoil-hat-wearing-conspiracy-theorist.
It helps to know what kind of people you are chatting with.
By the way, I highly encourage anyone who agrees with david to wear only T-shirts that say things like "Bush caused 9/11" or such. That way, if I see you in the mall or Starbucks, I'll know your state of mind right away. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:46 AM:
" Since this article is about the economy and the governments role in it, and since Bib Spitter loves links so much, I thought this bit of news would be interesting for the truly inquizative to read.
Obama's disastorous record...
"As a state senator, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee coauthored an Illinois law creating a new pool of tax credits for developers. As a US senator, he pressed for increased federal subsidies. And as a presidential candidate, he has campaigned on a promise to create an Affordable Housing Trust Fund that could give developers an estimated $500 million a year.
But a Globe review found that thousands of apartments across Chicago that had been built with local, state, and federal subsidies - including several hundred in Obama's former district - deteriorated so completely that they were no longer habitable."
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/ "
davidinlse wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:34 AM:
" RE: Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:15 AM: How convienent that you ignore the FACT that shrubbie was warned than an attack was imminent. HE IS responsible for 9-11, and all the problems that resulted. "
CJ wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:07 AM:
" It's always amazed me how Clinton got so much credit for a great economy when it was a Republican lead Congress he had. Now Bush of course has been bashed with our downturn but there is never any mention that really the Democrats are in charge of Congress.........what are they doing??? "
Vicky wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:05 AM:
" Let's see. Bush wants permanent tax cuts for the rich so the economy will be stimulated and more jobs created. Oops! That experiment didn't work! Now what Repubs? Any other bright ideas? "
Km wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:44 AM:
" If you look at the just the results from the policies of this administration and the poor state of healthcare, economy, ect. It is hard for me to listen to all of the "great" ideas of the republican party and believe what they are saying without reviewing what they have done in the past. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:26 AM:
" A few more observations....
-Unemployment figures are derived through various calculations. During the Clinton years, the calculations were adjusted to make Bubba look better. I think it's interesting that people don't phrase it as employment figures. I suppose it wouldn't sound as ominous saying that America has employment of 93.9% of all workers.
Realistically, if your working and getting paid, alls well. If you're out of a job, everything sucks. Also, if you are out of a job, don't depend on the government to get you a job.
-Bad decisions by big companies like GM do more to hurt workers than Bush. My Bro-in-law works for GM, and tells me of all of their waste. It's not just at the CEO level, but also at the Union worker level. But you'll never read in the Tribune how Unions hurt companies and the economy. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:15 AM:
" I see Bib Spitter is on his usual liberal-link rant.
A few observations:
-9/11 caused a huge dip in the economy that the libs want to ignore or worse....blame 9/11 on Bush and not the Islamic terrorists.
-Treasury Secretary's are like any other employee, if you aren't following the boss's road map, then you can get fired. No scandal, just reality. (BTW, economic predicting is as sure as weather predicting.)
-The President isn't a dictator, so he or his administration doesn't directly control what business's or banks do. If they make bad decisions then our economy suffers. Sounds like Bib Spitter wants a socialist or fascist form of government. That explains his Obama support. "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:58 AM:
" McCain "Don't know much about science books:"
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/mccains_previou.html
"But Issenberg quoted McCain as telling reporters on December 17 in New Hampshire: "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should," McCain said. "I've got Greenspan's book.""
Do you want this man's finger on the economic trigger? "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:33 AM:
" To Athenry, re: "Big Spender,...the majority of the communications coming from the democrats - big spending. ... while O wants to just give away money and a free ride, McCain actually wants to create jobs so people can EARN a living."
Haven't you been readin' the news these past 7.5 years? The Republicans had majorities in Congress six out the last 7.5 years and they controlled the White House all that time. Yet, they nearly doubled the federal debt, to ten trillion!!! Steep job losses is a Republican thing--that's been true for nearly a century! They're the party of Hoover, the party of Nixon, the party of GWB...so what makes you think that McCain will be any better than any of those? Rapid economic expansions and reduced unemployment tend to occur during Dem admins: Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton, late Roosevelt, early Truman. "
Athenry wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:48 AM:
" Big Spender, how fitting that you are backing O since that is the majority of the communications coming from the democrats - big spending. Notice, once again, while O wants to just give away money and a free ride, McCain actually wants to create jobs so people can EARN a living. "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:51 AM:
" Republicans stink at running the economy: Hoover 1929 depression, Ike 1960 recession, Nixon 1972 recession/stagflation, Ford 1976 stagflation, Reagan 1982 recession, Bush I 1991 recession, Bush II 2001-present recession, McCain 2009 depression to come...
"Barack Obama boosted as US unemployment rate makes life hard for John McCain"
"The United States unemployment rate has risen to a reported five-year high of 6.1 per cent, underlining the weak state of the American economy and boosting the White House chances of Senator Barack Obama."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2691262/Barack-Obama-boosted-as-US-unemployment-rate-makes-life-hard-for-John-McCain.html "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:42 AM:
" Want to live in a culvert in future?
Vote Republican!
"How Bush hides bad economic news"
"the administration has punished economic officials who didn't follow the company line. Treasury Secretary O'Neill left the administration after, among other fits of candor, he expressed skepticism about economic figures the White House had released and suggested that the tax cut could be better used to buttress Social Security. And before Lindsey was made to take a dive, he predicted that the war in Iraq could cost upwards of $200 billion, a figure that infuriated the White House, which was selling the anti-Saddam campaign as a comparatively cheap victory."
http://www.slate.com/id/2085481/
We're spending three trillion bucks in Iraq to beat a mere 50,000 ragtag incompetents. "
Big Spender wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:35 AM:
" Republican values at work:
"Palin asked Wasilla librarian about censoring books "
"Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so."
"According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired. The censorship issue was not mentioned as a reason for the firing. The letter just said the new mayor felt Emmons didnt fully support her and had to go."
"Emmons had been city librarian for seven years and was well liked. After a wave of public support for her, Palin relented and let Emmons keep her job."
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1117009&srvc=2008campaign&position=15 "
The Shining wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:09 AM:
" Well you can thank your good ol' Republicans for the unemployment rate going through the roof. They love to see jobs get shipped out of the country. "