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McCain, Palin go after Obama, Biden


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GREEN BAY (AP) — John McCain went after Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden on Thursday for saying that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

“Raising taxes in a tough economy isn’t patriotic. It isn’t a badge of honor,” McCain said at a Republican rally in Green Bay. “It’s just plain dumb.”
The line elicited the loudest applause of the night for the McCain, who spoke to a crowd that nearly filled the 11,000-seat Resch Center.

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who spoke before McCain, took on Barack Obama, accusing him of perpetuating “the worst of politics.”

Palin pointed to comments Obama’s been making this week on the campaign trail, urging his supporters to argue with those who disagree and “get in their face.”

“That doesn’t sound like the politics of hope or the politics of change to me,” Palin said, referring to Obama’s campaign themes. “What that sounds like is the worst of politics.”

McCain backer Carl Handschke, 64, of Appleton attended Thursday’s rally and said he likes McCain because he’s pro-military, anti-abortion and will cut taxes.

He and others also heaped praise on Palin, the Alaska governor tabbed by McCain as his running mate.

“She’s what this country needs,” Handschke said. “She’s a person you could have a pizza and a beer with.”

Palin catered to the locals, saying it was nice to be in a state where people appreciate good hockey, hunting, fishing and “great football.”

“Here in Wisconsin I know I’m not alone,” she said. “I know I’m not the only hockey mom for McCain.”

Palin was introduced by Debra Bartoshevich, a former backer of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Bartoshevich said she thought Clinton would be the first woman in the White House, but now she thinks it will be Palin.

Bartoshevich was dumped as a delegate to the Democratic National Convention after she switched allegiances to McCain rather than support Obama as the Democrats’ presidential nominee.

McCain, a 26-year veteran of Congress, hit on his campaign themes of being a maverick who can bring change to Washington by taking on his own party and the Bush administration when necessary. He said Obama’s idea of reform was to do what his party leaders tell him to.

“That’s the kind of me-first, country-second politics that’s broken in Washington, D.C.,” McCain said. “Sen. Obama isn’t change. He’s part of the problem with Washington.”

McCain ended his speech by describing how he was given an envelope at the airport in Green Bay by Cheryl Lee Patrick of Ladysmith. Her son Army Staff Sgt. Patrick Lee Lybert was killed in 2006 in Afghanistan. McCain held up Lybert’s dog tags, which he said were inside the envelope.

“I know that I can make sure that his sacrifice was not in vain because I will always put my country first,” McCain said.

A small group of protesters, led by liberal advocacy group One Wisconsin Now, stood outside the stadium’s entrance. Once during Palin’s speech another small group of protesters began shouting toward the back of the arena but were quickly taken out by security.

Gov. Jim Doyle, a Democrat backing Obama, held a conference call Wednesday in advance of McCain’s visit to say the Republican nominee is tragically out of touch and does not have solutions to solve the economic problems facing the country.

Many in the crowd Thursday wore cheesehead hats with McCain stickers on them and waved pompoms in the green and gold colors of the Green Bay Packers. One sign said “Packers for Palin.”

They cheered wildly for Palin throughout her 10-minute speech. It was her first visit to Green Bay and her second to Wisconsin with McCain. The first was two weeks ago in Cedarburg, located near Milwaukee.

A poll released just hours before McCain and Palin’s appearance showed the race in Wisconsin was a dead heat. Obama held a double-digit lead in the summer.

Green Bay has been the epicenter of the presidential race for Wisconsin’s 10 electoral votes this year. McCain planned to stay in Green Bay Thursday night and talk to the local Chamber of Commerce this morning.

Obama was to campaign in Green Bay on Monday. Biden was there two weeks ago.

In 2000 and 2004, Brown County, where Green Bay is located, voted for President Bush. But in 2006, the Republican candidate for governor narrowly edged out Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle by less than 2,000 votes in the county. U.S. Rep. Steve Kagen, a Democrat, won the county and a seat in Congress in 2006.
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free_speech wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:12 AM:

" THAT was racist.....

Me, I'm against electing a man nearing his deathbad with a backup who has no experience. Wait! That sounded like an argument against keeping Favre with Rodgers as his backup. We sent the old guy packing and put in a young guy who showed promise and the ability to unite the team. GO OBAMA! "

cataractjack wrote on Sep 20, 2008 7:48 AM:

" Most wiscosin voters are smarter then you think its just the ones in Madison and the Milwaukee areas that are clueless. Relecting Doyle is not saying too much about smarts. McCain and Palin will win Wisconsin. Outside of those cities most Wisconsin people have never met a black person they sure will not vote for him for president. "

possom133 wrote on Sep 20, 2008 7:43 AM:

" "Pit bull with lipstick" Lets examine that statement shall we. A violent, unpredicable, animal known to attack without warning or provocation, HMMMM sounds like some thing we need to keep far away from a position as powerful as possible leader of our country. Anyone up for nuking Russia? "

timeforchange wrote on Sep 19, 2008 10:15 PM:

" "'Carl Handschke... likes McCain because hes pro-military, anti-abortion and will cut taxes..."

"Shes what this country needs, Handschke said. Shes a person you could have a pizza and a beer with."

Palin catered to the locals, saying it was nice to be in a state where people appreciate good hockey, hunting, fishing and great football.

"Here in Wisconsin I know Im not alone, she said. I know Im not the only hockey mom for McCain."

Um, so your pro-war, anti-person's right to choose, and tax breaks for the rich. That's news!

I enjoy a good hockey and football game and venison (all accompanied by a great beer) as much as everyone else, but reason to for a candidate?! WI voters are smarter than you think. "

seabiscuit wrote on Sep 19, 2008 2:40 PM:

" packer backer-- Elaborate on your racist comments, please. Be more specific; We all want to hear what you have to say. "

Michael Welch wrote on Sep 19, 2008 2:04 PM:

" Attractive photograph of Mac and Sarah -- very nice for 'believers.' However the Bush administration overnight just in effect 'socialized' the interbank lending industry as well as 'insured' its investments against mass collapse. But if your Pizza Hut business fails however don't -- I repeat DON'T -- be waiting up for that call from Hank Paulson or Ben Bernanke, buckie. Too bad but there IS a uh um 'limit' to what the government can do for the suckers er voters er blessed LITTLE folk eh... "

Garvi wrote on Sep 19, 2008 12:05 PM:

" The reason they are for de-regulation is so they can all line their own pocketbooks and not care what happens to everyone after that.

Also I cannot belive that ALL these people can out right lie/twist words just to fit their own agendas,and get away with it.

This country has just turned into a popularity contest, (putting lipstick on a pig).No wonder this country is in the state it's in. "

Grant wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:39 AM:

" McCain needs to apologize for His part on the De-regulation on wall street,FDR,HST,JFK,LBJ and all dems are for Regulating , ALL Repubs from Hebert Hoover on are for deregulating most every thing "

balanced budget wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:21 AM:

" All we here from these two are lies and exagerations. Check the facts before you vote.

McSame-PLan for disaster "

Grant wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:01 AM:

" President Reagan and Bush senior were friends of Saddam till 1991 they even gave Him the WMD that they could not find in 2003. I believe barrack was born before 1990 "

Grant wrote on Sep 19, 2008 10:58 AM:

" ihghui "

packer backer wrote on Sep 19, 2008 10:34 AM:

" Barack Hussian Obama, why don't he want people using his middle name? Did his parents not give it to him? He could always have it legally changed if he is embarrassed of his heritage? And that would be? "

Grant wrote on Sep 19, 2008 9:41 AM:

" The Palins need to go back to Alaska to answer the subpoenas Before the Scandal Sheets and people like Larry Flint figure it out. I will still say it looks like the Eagleton experience of 1972 its going to be good "

rickey wrote on Sep 19, 2008 8:37 AM:

" "Obama just left" WRONG I think You are reading an OLD newspaper Today is Friday, also it is in Catract "

cataractjack wrote on Sep 19, 2008 8:28 AM:

" It was nice President McCain and VP Palin stopped at Greenbay. Barack Hussian Obama is just leaving Hollywood and the Strisand party after he got Ryan O'Neil and his kid bailed out of jail "

rickey wrote on Sep 19, 2008 8:14 AM:

" Actually He crashed 4 planes the other one wrecked was not His fault "

rickey wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:18 AM:

" If all pilots for North Vietnam crashed 5 planes like John McCain We Probably would have won that war "

seabiscuit wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:14 AM:

" McCain and Palin seem to get high on the ridiculous lies they tell. When Karl Rove says they have gone too far, you know there is a major problem. They are making a joke of the entire campaign and laughing right in our faces... How pathetic. Meanwhile, Obama is meeting with a team of nationally recognized financial advisors regarding the economic crisis this country is going through. Of course McCain (and his eight houses) thinks everything is fine; his economic advisor says we are just a nation of whiners. PLEASE vote for someone who will work for America! Obama/Biden 08. "

rickey wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:46 AM:

" I have 1 brother and 1 sister divorced , I have NO intrest in Their divorce Records. So Why does Palin want her sisters divorce records sealed? Did someone sleep in the wrong bed? "

rickey wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:30 AM:

" When people like Reagan And Bush are responsible for most of the nation's nearly 10 TTTrillion debt its funny to not call paying taxes patriotic. Is borrowing money patriotic? How much will it cost to straighten this GOP foreclosure mess We are in cost? "

rickey wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:23 AM:

" Palin as Mayor of Wasilla ran the town into a 22 MMillion debt and built a sports arena on land that possession is in litigation "

rickey wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:20 AM:

" McCain as a Navy Pilot wrecked 5 air planes one got tangled up with power lines in Italy while He was seeing How close He could get "

rickey wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:12 AM:

" McCain And His Home-Wrecking,Drug stealing wife SINdy have No room to judge any one "

new world order wrote on Sep 19, 2008 5:53 AM:

" These two are so lame. These two spell disaster....Please vote for Obama. "

Big Spender wrote on Sep 19, 2008 3:15 AM:

" Regarding "John McCain went after Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden on Thursday for saying that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans."

"Raising taxes in a tough economy isnt patriotic. It isnt a badge of honor, McCain said at a Republican rally in Green Bay. Its just plain dumb. "

It's just plain dishonest of McPinochio, Obama is not planning to raise taxes on most citizens:

"As the Lies Pile Up, McCains Former Fans Increasingly Repulsed by the Cynicism"

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/09/10/as-the-lies-pile-up-mccains-former-fans-increasingly-revulsed-by-the-cynicism/ "


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