FaithBlum wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:33 PM:
" I forgot to say that that comment was for DM420. "
FaithBlum wrote on Oct 21, 2008 3:32 PM:
" 'It is my experience that-- many times-- those who are home-schooled have a one-sided view of the world, which is very dangerous. At least public schools are required to give equal time to the issues.'
Homeschoolers usually are raised to think things through and and look at both sides of an issue. For expample, when I studied science, I studied both Cration and Evolution. In public school, they get one side of the issue, evolution. In my science class I was taught the facts and then given the theories. What do the public schoolers get? "
quay wrote on Oct 20, 2008 12:27 PM:
" whatever....... "
AmericanPatriot wrote on Oct 18, 2008 7:33 PM:
" The volatile mood of the electorate has Obama with a chance of winning. But if the decision were based solely on the qualifications of the candidates and their experience in domestic and foreign affairs, it's McCain by a wide margin.
It is quite obvious that many Obama supporters are behind him soley because of emotional reasons. The trouble with making a big decision based upon emotion is it is fraught with the possibility of becoming an absolute disaster. Many of us have had to learn this the hard way, and perhaps we will have to go through this as a country.
Come election day people are going to look real hard at whether we are ready for a wild ride on the undefined Obama persona and policy decisions, or would it be better to let the seasoned veteran hold the reigns for the next four years. "
quay wrote on Oct 18, 2008 2:20 PM:
" She what? She does take a position I'll give her that. Lets take this sentence... Tony Rezko, a Chicago slumlord, helped finance Obama in five elections. He also gave money to a man closely associated to Saddam Hussein.
So when Dick Cheney is actually kissing Saddam's @ss because he's killing Iranians and Cheney is Bushes VP, what am I to infer? "
AmericanPatriot wrote on Oct 18, 2008 10:36 AM:
" The editorial by Faith and the responses to it sums up the general tone of this election cycle. This young woman possesses a clear, well thought out position based on objective research and articulates it beautifully. In response the naysayers here and in the letters to the editor are often mean spirited, immature, and inaccurate. The irony here is that it is the young woman acting the role of an adult, and the adults behaving like a bunch of adolescents. "
quay wrote on Oct 18, 2008 9:48 AM:
" I feel your pain Phil. I felt the same way
when the Supreme Court picked our President in 2000
But we survived. Nice pick by the way judges! Our country is in the crapper.
but, there is still hope, after we sweep these meat heads out of office and air the place out. "
LaXthenBronx wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:48 PM:
" As a reader of this editorial, I find it lacks a lot of support for Faith's arguments. Also, it needs to consider sources when research is done; "Obama Nation" is vastly different from Mendell's "Obama: From Promise to Power". In order to make this argument more convincing, the contrasting Obama's views with McCain is necessary. I simply do not understand where McCain stands on abortion, health care, etc. Also, I, again, do not understand what it means that the Iraq war is working?!?! Please explain, but then again, our biases are so engrained in each of us that they may never change, no matter what. A better move in deciding who to vote for would be a written examination of those biases. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 17, 2008 7:40 PM:
" down2512,
What you are missing about ACORN's fraud is that it robs people of equal representation. The only part of our government that is a democracy is when we vote for our representatives. ACORN has not just registered dead people and cartooon characters but illegal aliens and prisoners. These people who have the false names can go from voting station to voting station and vote multiple times. If the FBI doesn't step to the plate before Nov. 4th and do something to stop this, the will be a VERY large segment of the population that will not accept the election results. When enough people lose faith in our Republic form of government, then it will fail and fall into rule by the strong. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 17, 2008 4:51 PM:
" Oops, I said 'when Obama was working on immigration reform'. I meant to say, "when McCain was working on immigration reform." "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 17, 2008 4:50 PM:
" down2512,
When Obama was working on trying to pass his immigration reform, he did attend some meetings of ACORN. I went to the most left wing source to see what they could produce and this is all I found...http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/john-mccain-the-group-that-may-be-destroying-the-fabric-of-democracy/
Remember, McCain met with them in 2006 over immigration, not in 2008 over 'get out the vote'. There is a huge difference between the two when you talk about ACORN's voter fraud. It's a tragedy where, because of ACORN, we are going to have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of fraudulent votes cast. That means illegal aliens not only will be able to vote, but vote multiple times without being stopped.
A simple solution could solve this...do what they did in Iraq....ink your finger. At least then it would elliminate multiple voting. "
down2512 wrote on Oct 17, 2008 2:19 PM:
" Phil O'Bates: Getting eligible voters to the polls is what motivated Obama to ACORN. Helpiing people understand that their vote makes a difference and and that action for change was necessary then and now. Was that the same for McCain? What exactly are his ties to ACORN? I've seen the commercial clip where McCain is addressing their leadership so I think his ties are substantial. "
quay wrote on Oct 17, 2008 11:31 AM:
" thats a good point thomasp, Although it looks like she went looking for ideas and thinkers that don't agree with Obama. Faith, you sight Malcom X, do you know anything about him or why he might inspire a young black man like Obama? There's not a bad movie about his life with Denzel Washington, you should rent it.
You believe the war in Iraq is just peechy keen. (it's not) McCain has no plan to leave, ever. That's 10 billion a month, where's that money going to come from? Oh thats right, loans from China. When does that bill come due? "
thomasp wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:50 AM:
" Faith, congratulations on your first voting experience. Remember this is your vote and what you do with it is your choice. But if I may suggest it is important to not only to get your facts straight, but your priorities as well to make a choice of whom would make a better leader of this nation. Reading your post it is clear you have not done that very well. "
quay wrote on Oct 17, 2008 9:33 AM:
" It's interesting this child is afraid of
Obama. Has she read that we can now torture people, spy and tap the phones of US citizens and how congress has signed over dictator powers to the treasury?
Here's "the truth" about Republicans
www.republicansexoffenders.com. "I researched this" it must be true. "
seabiscuit wrote on Oct 17, 2008 8:28 AM:
" This opinion piece is simply not "the truth." It is far from it. A good writer has an open, inquiring mind and does research from several well-balanced sources.
Apparently we know how you will vote, Faith. Now you know I will vote-- I will vote against hate and prejudice.
I feel sorry for you. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 16, 2008 6:40 PM:
" down2512,
Read and learn.
1990-Obama on community organizing (http://www.edwoj.com/Alinsky/AlinskyObamaChapter1990.htm)
1993-2002 Woods Funds, through Obama, the Fund frequently gave ACORN grants to fund its agenda and voter registration activities.
1994-2002 Joyce Fund for Chicago, through Obama, the Fund frequently gave ACORN grants to fund its agenda and voter registration activities.
1995-2002 Annenberg Funds, through Obama, the Fund frequently gave ACORN grants to fund its agenda and voter registration activities.
1995 Obama helps ACORN sue Citibank which is part of the reason for the subprime mess. (http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/obama-sued-citibank-under-cra-to-force-it-to-make-bad-loans/)
2004 ACORN aids Obama's win for Senate Seat
(http://www.socialpolicy.org/index.php?id=838)
Feb. 2008-According to ACORN-they are Obama’s economic advisors.
(http://www.chieforganizer.org/index.php?id=57&no_cache=1&tx_eeblog%5BcategoryId%5D=17&tx_eeblog%5Bpointer%5D=9&tx_eeblog%5BshowUid%5D=18837) "
spider_monkey wrote on Oct 16, 2008 6:03 PM:
" RE: down2512
wrote on Oct 16, 2008 12:58 PM
Wow, that was quite the incoherent, rambling comment you had there. First of all, ACORN has been around since 1970, not 2000 as you claim. And by the way, since you brought up the 2000 election, if you research the Florida recount you will find that Al Gore, with the help of the Florida Supreme Court tried to rewrite the Florida election laws mandating that all votes must be submitted no later than seven days after the election. But of course when you are a sore loser you have no other option except to try and cheat to win. Back to ACORN, anyone with half a brain can see how crooked to organization is, and Democrats should be ashamed to be associated with them. "
down2512 wrote on Oct 16, 2008 12:58 PM:
" Phil O'Bates! Leave it to you to turn the ACORN stone! Let's talk about that...Obama and McCain each have ties both politically and financially to this organization. Let's back it up even farther, ACORN rose from the scummy tactics and practices of the GOP in the 2000 election! The hope was to avoid questioning winning outcomes, recounts, and other jeopardy caused by the underthetable, behindtheback filthy practices so the GOP candidate becomes the winner. It was a leap of "faith" that Obama donated money to ACORN. It's just a carry over of filthy politics that some of the employees chose to cheat to up their compensation (don't they know you only get away with that slimy work if you're on behalf of the repubs?) The chart from Sunday's Parade magazine shows the tax breaks/increases proposals for Obama/McCain released by the Associated Press-worth reading. "
CTM88 wrote on Oct 16, 2008 11:50 AM:
" I find it amusing how quickly people discredit Barack Obama, and take for granted that John McCain would help them out (though quite the opposite is true based on HIS voting record). The whole notion that socialism would result for an Obama-Biden administration is utterly ridiculous.
You are all so caught up in these "ties to terrorists," which have been refuted by EVERY major fact-checking source that you fail to see how Sen. Obama would help our standing in the world through his collected nature and intelligible ideas. You are the same group who believes that the failures of the Bush administration lie SOLELY on the shoulders of the Clinton administration.
Resistance to change is not the answer. On November 4th, we will elect a new president, who God-forbid might get something done that helps the middle-class out. "
hochunkguy wrote on Oct 16, 2008 11:36 AM:
" Faith, thanks for your insightful, well-researched and well-written column. As you relate, Senator Obama has a brief, but well-documented political career in the Illinois and US senate. He has taken the positions that you document so concisely. Again, people may disagree with the values you relate or conclusions you reach, but they cannot dispute the facts. I, for one, do not support infanticide, but if someone does and supports Obama because of it, it is certainly his orher right. If people think socialism is the cure, then certainly Obama is their man. As you can see Faith, many people hid behind smears or character assassination instead of stating their support and assent to the candidate's positions and record. "
CTM88 wrote on Oct 16, 2008 11:32 AM:
" Is this a serious article? Anyone who honestly believes that Barack Obama will turn this country into Nazi Germany does not deserve the right to vote. This is an insult to every person who supports Sen. Obama and has attended his rallies.
To the author of this fascinating piece of literature, I urge you to do research on John McCain as well. You may dig up a few of the skeletons he has been hiding, that have not been brought out by the Obama campaign- the fact that he was a terrible student in the Naval Academy, poor pilot in the Navy, and used his family's influence to get where he is today. For someone so new to the political process to write such a hateful article is shameful. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 16, 2008 10:27 AM:
" Once again, Faith, excellent job! You know you've been successful when you stir up your opponents so. Nothing hurts more than the light of truth to those who hide in the shadows.
I find the ACORN voter fraud thing to be quite interesting. Yesterday on the story about Wisconsin polls (you can find it in the most commented section) a Obama follower, Kamikasifaase, expressed glee that ACORN was breaking the law to get his candidate elected. When you combine that with Obama's smirking while McCain mentioned ACORN's fraud, Obama's $800,000 campaign payment to ACORN to 'get out the vote', the fact the in Ohio alone there are at least 200,000 fraudulent applications, and the there are active investigations in at least 11 states, you can see that Obama and his followers are quite comfortable with breaking the law to win an election. "
laxlocal wrote on Oct 16, 2008 8:22 AM:
" Research shows that McCain was associated with communists during the Vietman war. He even met top leaders repeatedly while a guest at the Hanoi Hilton. LOL "
DM420 wrote on Oct 15, 2008 11:55 PM:
" "Whatever... The point is, if it is on the Opinion Page -- it should not be given a title as though it is factual."
So are you saying you want the La Crosse Tribune to dumb it down for those that don't notice there reading the opinion section; or would you rather they have no title at all? Admit it, you were being a lazy reader. "
seabiscuit wrote on Oct 15, 2008 5:00 PM:
" DM420
wrote on Oct 15, 2008 3:00 PM:
" ******NEWSFLASH*****
seabiscuit, Opinion pages are printed in the Opinion section of the paper.
Whatever... The point is, if it is on the Opinion Page -- it should not be given a title as though it is factual. IT IS AN OPINION, not news. This is only one person's version of what "truth" is, by the way.
DM420
wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:58 PM:
" seabiscuit,
Since when is researching a candidate, gathering all the facts and presenting them, considered being brainwashed?
Maybe when all the "fact searching" involves blatant lies, one-sided, prejudiced viewpoints, and slanted right-wing sources.
Yes, I too would be interested on Faith Blum's equal coverage of John McCain/Sarah Palin. I love truthiness! "
DM420 wrote on Oct 15, 2008 3:00 PM:
" ******NEWSFLASH*****
seabiscuit,
Opinion pages are printed in the Opinion section of the paper. With research skills like yours, I can see why you support Obama! "
DM420 wrote on Oct 15, 2008 2:58 PM:
" seabiscuit,
Since when is researching a candidate, gathering all the facts and presenting them, considered being brainwashed?
I looked up all the things stated in this article and found multiple sources for them all. Why don't you try doing the same. You liberals know nothing about your candidate and when someone with the motivation to look it up, does so, you call them brainwashed!
Put your money where your mouth is and disprove her... I'd love to see that, a Obama supporter that did their research. It's no wonder you can find one, they've all switched to McCain! "
seabiscuit wrote on Oct 15, 2008 1:36 PM:
" What makes this article even more disgraceful is the title. On an OPINION piece, it is very irresponsible of the La Crosse Tribune editors to allow it to go to print like this.
And I thought I didn't need any more reasons to NOT buy the newspaper anymore... "
seabiscuit wrote on Oct 15, 2008 1:20 PM:
" I finally read this column after hearing about it from others. The one word that comes to my mind is BRAINWASHED. It is hard to believe that this was even published.
It is my experience that-- many times-- those who are home-schooled have a one-sided view of the world, which is very dangerous. At least public schools are required to give equal time to the issues.
Faith, I am sorry you are so closed-minded, but good luck with your future: I'm sure you could get a great job with Rush Limbaugh. "
down2512 wrote on Oct 15, 2008 1:08 PM:
" here's a little p.s. to the sex ed: having people we trust, ie. teachers, school counselors or other educational reps enlighten our kids about sex, and diversity may help the many many parents and extended family of the students become a bit more aware and accepting also. "
down2512 wrote on Oct 15, 2008 1:05 PM:
" Phil O'Bates: i have a very short time to respond to your comments here but will get back to it tomorrow, the educational funds were definitely awarded to the school system in Chicago-Obama can't be held responsible for the dispersment or spending beyond that. The awards to atty Blackwell brought a substantial return to the community in business sales and sales tax! and bill 99 whether you or the rest of the right henchmen like it makes sense! Parents are very busy people! We try to educate our children on safety, strangers, sex, and accepting diversity but often we're lacking. With schools active on these topics it does make us aware that children need to learn, understand, and accept the less traditional family structures that exist. "
laxlocal wrote on Oct 15, 2008 12:25 PM:
" Phil,
Iraq did not cause 9/11. You are obviously uninformed and there is no need to continue. Your ignorance betrays you. In 2 minutes of searching for an Iraq 9/11 connection all I found was hundreds and hundreds of reliable journalistic based articles saying there was no connection. Yet you believe otherwise.
I am refering to Christian Science Monitor, WallStreetJournal, Washington Post, NYTimes, Chicago Tribune, LATimes... maybe Rush agrees with you.. but read my lips "you are wrong" "
laxlocal wrote on Oct 15, 2008 12:20 PM:
" Phil, If you still believe there is a connection between Iraq and 9/11 you are mistaken. I can not find one reliable source, even from the GOP who agrees on a pre-invasion connection. In fact all of the sources I found go out of their way to discredit Bush and his statements before and after invading. Of course i do not know IF Obama is lying....I do know that Bush DID LIE. Knowing that how can you trust him or MCSAME? "
DM420 wrote on Oct 14, 2008 7:29 PM:
" what_that_too,
Maybe if you researched your candidate, you'd find the same thing. Everything that was stated in this article can easily be found, by multiple sources. I guess you forgot to look, what a shocker!!! "
what_that_too wrote on Oct 14, 2008 4:38 PM:
" Faith, what are your sources? - Could they be the same ones used by the stuttering woman who's been seen on just about every news program, questioning Mr. McCain, claiming she'd read that "Obama was an 'Arab'"? "
Common Sense wrote on Oct 14, 2008 4:21 PM:
" laxlocal, just what makes you so sure Obama and his cohorts are not lieing to you? "
illiminnesconi wrote on Oct 14, 2008 2:49 PM:
" Wow finally an article that attacks his based solely upon his character rather than racial or religious facts. It's interesting how some are so quick don’t like discrimination but yet will criticize McCain with comments about his age and him dying, Sarah Palin's religious beliefs, her daughter's pregnancy, etc. None of these should have any danger to you. I would fear someone who has connections with extremists who have done harm than by someone who has different religious beliefs. As for Kitty's comment, you should follow up with a McCain/Palin article. I'd read it as well, except I don't think we'd see as many radical extremists in the article. The wool would be pulled over my eyes and I’d be the first to admit. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 1:48 PM:
" Lax,
Of course there are connections between Iraq and 9/11. What is misleading at best, false at worst, is your strawman argument that "Iraq didn't cause 9/11." 9/11 caused us to take Iraq more seriously.
Iraq was paying money to terrorist groups.
Iraq was providing training for terrorist groups.
Iraq was providing shelter for terrorists.
Iraq had made threats to the United States.
It was unknown exactly what weapons Iraq had.
Any one of those reasons justified attacking and Congress agreed. Your 20-20 hindsight on how the war should have been fought is wrought with political ego and an intention to ignore the historical facts. The fact is that we are there now and we have succeeded so far, so who is best to continue the success?
Definately not Barack Hussein Obama. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 1:38 PM:
" Lax,
I will thank you for your service.
I too served in the military for six years.
Your vote will have no affect on my son's service. Both McCain and Obama are going to draw down forces in Iraq because the Surge worked (no thanks to Obama, btw). Obama may withdraw them too fast, because he cares more about a timetable then insuring stability. That would short change all of the lives given for Iraqi freedom and stability. That's why the military polls show that around ~80% support McCain.
On Afghanistan, both McCain and Obama call for increased troop levels and action. So you see, my son's life will be in danger regardless of who you vote for. McCain is the one I trust for bringing our troops home in Victory. "
laxlocal wrote on Oct 14, 2008 1:25 PM:
" Phil, since you mention it I served during the first Iraq war. You're still full of BS and you still believe Iraq and 9/11 are connected. There is no hope for you. Your ignorance is astounding. Iraq did not fund terrorism the oil in your SUV did. quoting a bush speech from 2001 when history has proven those were all LIES your a piece of work..... I vote so your son doesn't have to die for LIES. "
kitty101 wrote on Oct 14, 2008 1:12 PM:
" So when you be doing a follow up article about your reasearch on McCain and Palin? "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 12:58 PM:
" Lax,
What you miss is that 1) downsizing the military didn't make us safer. DUH! 2)Clinton downsized our intelligence community as well. If our intelligence was bad, then so was Germany's and England's.
What's funny is you say you don't want to be lied to, yet you are following a candidate that has never been a successful leader, and has never brought about positive change in any of his political endevors. I would think that a person who doesn't want to be lied to, would want some actual proof rather than a politicians rhetoric.
The fact that you are a member of a club bought for by your GGGGGrandpa's sacrifice, means very little in reality. My ancestors have been in America since the mid 1600's too, big flippin' deal! What have YOU done in service to your country? "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 12:46 PM:
" to Lax,
From Bush's 9/11 speech:
"We will starve terrorists of funding, turn them one against another, drive them from place to place, until there is no refuge or no rest. And we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. (Applause.) From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime."
Iraq was funding terrorism.
Bushm January, 2002 speech:
"Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror from threatening America or our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction."
Iraq qualified and Congress approved. "
DM420 wrote on Oct 14, 2008 12:24 PM:
" I'm truly impressed! What a good example of an educated voter; one that actually looks at substance over style! Some Obama supporters are going to be pretty surprised by his plans if he gets elected.
Now if we could just get the rest of the Obama fanboys to actually look into his proposals. "
laxlocal wrote on Oct 14, 2008 12:14 PM:
" phil,
ever wonder why clinto downsized the military... could it be to avoid useless military involvement? No. Clinton was trying to hurt the country...that's what you believe. Ever heard of the Sons of the American Revolution? Well I'm a member. Dainel Miers under General William Maxwell fought for US independance. He was my GGGGRandfather. So you want to talk sacrifice? My family fought the british government for the freedoms you enjoy. So I'll accept your thanks. I am a true American, the day the country was conceived my family was here fighting for truth and justice. Bush is a lier and your just a pawn. What exactly is your son going to defend in Iraq? Certanily not terroist attacks... they are in afghanistan. "
LAXLOCAL wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:53 AM:
" Phil, history will show the Bush adminstrations complete lack of competent inteligence (or LIES) that got us into the Iraq war while the true culprits in afghanistan are still fee. What don't you understand? You were LIED to by the GOP and you still support them. You have been bitten and yet you return for more you gullible mutt. I don't care what party is in the White House I just don't want to be lied to... and those lies have harmed this country with ripples that will last a decade or more. The GOP has done a great job of destroying this great country. You should be so proud. I vote so your son doesn't have to go to war. PATRIOT! "
LAXLOCAL wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:36 AM:
" Please do a quick check of what the Bush administration said leading up to Iraq war.MSNBS took me two minutes to find.
You Phil are a FULL OF BS
"In making the case for war in Iraq, Bush administration officials frequently cited what they said were Saddam's decade-long contacts with al-Qaida operatives. They stopped short of claiming that Iraq was directly involved in the Sept. 11 attacks, but critics say Bush officials left that impression with the American public." I said LINK not Caused as you insinuated. Learn how to read before u speak "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:28 AM:
" One last thing lax,
I do have kids and I fear for their future freedoms under an Obama regime. That's why I try to get out the truth about Obama.
My oldest is joining the Army after graduation, and I couldn't be prouder of him. He understands how precious freedom and America is, and is willing to risk his life to protect it. He even accepts that he is risking his life for people who will never understand or appreciate what he is willing to do.
He may not agree with what you say, but he's willing to defend to his death, your right to say it. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:22 AM:
" laxloco,
What is amazing is that Obamatrons like you want to forget that the attack of 9/11 caused a large dip in our economy. You also want to forget that Clinton sized down our military, so rebuilding our military to fight and fighting a war is expensive. Its sad that when the President makes obvious strides that secure freedom, not only for us but for others, you say "That's it?" Is freedom and safety worth the cost. I say yes.
Now about government spending, who controls the purse strings? The President or Congress? The problem with out of control debt has to do with both parties in Congress spending more than they take in. Alot of that is in things like earmarks, that Obama and Biden can't seem to vote for enough of. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 11:14 AM:
" Laxloco,
Your intentional twisting of the facts is laughable and shows your ignorance.
Read up on the recent history. Bush NEVER said that Iraq caused 9/11, that is a Democrat lie that you have bought into. America being attacked on 9/11 caused Bush to look at ALL threats to America and take them seriously. He did, Congress approved, and Saddam is no longer a threat.
Nations like France didn't want us to go into Iraq, because they were making money off of the Oil for food scam and selling technology to Iraq. "
LAXLOCAL wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:42 AM:
" LAUGHABLE
Phil, when asked what good the GOP has done in the last 8yrs all you have is a change in position by N Korea and Libya. That's it! oh let me catch my breath... whoa... Thank your GOD the constitution has been eroded, the national debt clock doesn't have enough zeros and on and on and on.... I hope you don't have kids. "
LAXLOCAL wrote on Oct 14, 2008 9:18 AM:
" Your ignorance betrays you
9/11 is Osama so why are we in Iraq? Bush said it was because of WMDs and a link to 9/11, that was a complete lie. You have your head in the sand and your ignorance is destroying this great nation. Sadam had nothing to do with 9/11 the entire world (NATO) advised us not to invade and we did it anyway. That is the problem,Ignorant egotists like Bush Cheney Rummy and yourself. Iraq was a lie. 9/11 should be fought in afghanistan. "
let1102 wrote on Oct 14, 2008 8:59 AM:
" Way to go Tribune you have found a guest writer that can take info from a Republican website and puke it out changing a couple words, glad to see the level of competence will not be compromised from the normal Tribune level of greatness. Ms. Blum I think the best thing for you and us would be for you to serve this great country, odds are you won't get killed cause only 4000 have died(another retarded Republican line"more people die in the streets of Detroit each year") There is a pretty good chance you will lose an arm or a leg or your sanity if you ever had that! "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 8:37 AM:
" Laxlocal,
We are at war because we ignored the threats to our country and we paid for it on 9/11. We are not at war because of lies. Bush and Congress, supported by most Americans, said that we would not take any threats to America lightly again, so that brought Saddam Hussein into the spot light.
As you must have forgotten, Saddam had more money, weapons, resources, and history of violence then Osama, so Bush said come clean or we will remove you as a threat. Bush followed through on his word, and now America is safer and the Iraqi people have a chance at freedom.
What else has happened? Libya and North Korea have moved into a more peaceful position in the world because of Bush's strong stance for freedom. "
laxlocal wrote on Oct 14, 2008 7:37 AM:
" The GOP has had the House, the Senate, the Pres and what have they done? NOTHING. What has improved since 2000? "
laxlocal wrote on Oct 14, 2008 7:32 AM:
" I cannot fathom how anyone in this great country could believe the last eight years were anything but a complete disaster. Is this the best America has to offer? We are at WAR! A war based on complete LIES. What is wrong with GOP supporters, you were lied to. Complete lies. Young men are dying because of failed policy and lies. Wake-up! You had your chance and you failed. Please tell me what good has happened in the last eight years. Anyone? "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 14, 2008 6:53 AM:
" Faith, you know you did a good job on your column when you get the reactive responces, like what is in todays letters to the editor. Good job!
I saw the video yesterday of Obama telling the plumber in Ohio, that yes, he would tax him more, but it was because Obama is going to "spread the wealth around."
Hmm Sounds like redistribution of wealth, which is what Sarah pointed out in her debate and Biden denied. It is also in the communist line of thinking.
Hmmm Has Obama ever surrounded himself with communist believing people? People like Frank Marshall Davis, or William Ayers, or Riala Odinga? Nah. Never. Nothing to see here people, just believe in the "hope of change" and your pains will be healed. "
Diane wrote on Oct 13, 2008 10:03 PM:
" I am an American. I have been proud of my country through out history and currently in both good and bad times. Unlike Michelle Obama who has verbally said for the FIRST time she is proud of America when her husband was elected to be the Democratic nominee for President. As a Christan, I would not stay in a Church that professes hate for America and other races. I would be the first one out of the door unless those really are Obama's values. And, what about the association with "Pro Terrorists" and Acorn Fraud. Why are we not getting answers to these questions which indicates the moral background of the Presidental nominee? How lax we have become because of promises upon promises rather than judging someone as to their values, personal and then political. Obama is not the best choice for President of the United States. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 13, 2008 9:00 PM:
" Barack Obama
Bill Ayers
Reverand Wright
Tony Rezko
Riala Odinga
Birds of a feather, flock together. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 13, 2008 8:52 PM:
" How does this relate to Obama, you ask?
The record shows that Obama supported Illinois Senate Bill 99 in 2003, which, despite denials by Obama and false claims by the mainstream media, was not a bill to protect children from sexual predators. It was a sweeping, comprehensive sex-education bill that lowered the age of instruction from sixth grade to kindergarten, gutted an abstinence emphasis and prohibited "bias" based on "sexual orientation." The term "sexual predator" is nowhere in the bill, with inappropriate touching by peers included in a laundry list of the many aspects of explicit sex ed. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 13, 2008 8:49 PM:
" More about Ayers ideology on educating children:
One of the most revealing essays in "Queering Elementary Education" (which Ayers endorsed) tells us about a young 8 year old girl named Steph. In the essay, Steph and her mother agree that, while watching a group of young girls, they are both attracted to the same 12-year-old. Steph has a teen girlfriend who regularly stays at their house for sleepovers who has confided she's a lesbian.
Children need to challenge any environment that is too "heteronormative, Anglocentric and phallocentric," according to Steph's mom, who sees that "'queerly raised' children are agents" using "strategies of adaptation, negotiation, resistance and subversion." "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 13, 2008 8:44 PM:
" Speaking of Ayers, some people want you to believe he is some great education reformer. Take a look at what type of education reform he endorses:
A book called "Queering Elementary Education: Advancing the Dialogue about Sexualities and Schooling" by William J. Letts IV and James T. Sears.
It's a collection of essays by radicals in the teaching profession, who believe adults and small children must be taught to "think queerly." The book's foreword was written by Kevin Jennings, then president of the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, or GLSEN, whose core mission is to convince as many troubled kids as possible to declare themselves homosexual.
Ayers says "...it is a book for all teachers and parents, indeed for anyone concerned with the healthy development of children and schools." "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 13, 2008 8:38 PM:
" There is also evidence of graft when Obama was a state Senator.
Robert Blackwell, a client of Barack, had just paid Obama $112,000 in his capacity as a private attorney for one of his corporations. State Senator Obama and [aide Dan] Shomon then helped Blackwell obtain $320,000 in state tourism grants to hold ping-pong tournaments.
Barack Obama isn't a change for the good, but just a change in how corrupt politics and socialism is wrapped. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 13, 2008 8:33 PM:
" Another aspect of Obama, his utter failure when he was in a leadership position.
As chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, an educational reform project that Ayers founded, Obama presided over a waste of $160 million in donors money. The project, under his leadership, failed to improve student achievement in the 210 Chicago schools where it operated, according to the Annenberg Challenges final report. And to this day, that project is Obamas only significant executive experience.
Obamas legislative leadership was similar, a case study in wasting other peoples money. In Springfield, Obama wrote letters from his public position to get Rezko $14 million for his slum-development enterprise. Obama co-sponsored several pieces of housing legislation favorable to Rezko and other slum-developers, giving them hundreds of millions in subsidies and other tax and regulatory advantages. They in turn funneled money to Obamas campaigns and then let their buildings deteriorate. "
spider_monkey wrote on Oct 13, 2008 5:48 PM:
" laxlocal: I assure you I do not live in a closed life and I am exposed to the greatest youth America has to offer. I'm still trying to figure out this change everyone keeps talking about. Change to what? I can guarantee the next four years really won't be much different than the last four, regardless of who's elected. The only difference being we should be out of Iraq, victorious I might add but that has nothing to do with the president if he lets the troops do their job, and the economy will recover. It amazes me that people get caught up in political promises because if you really want change, then do something yourself to change your own life "
AmericanPatriot wrote on Oct 13, 2008 5:06 PM:
" As usual we hear those who launch personal attacks on the messenger, rather than addressing the issues; i.e. things such as putting her on a suicide watch if Obama wins, and that she is outnumbered 10 to 1 among her peers. Would it be too much to ask her detractors to show where Faith was wrong and then back it up with sources?
What a breath of fresh air! The clarity and insights expressed in her views reflect an uncommon common sense. Faith, to counter the negatives, I encourage you to keep thinking and acting independently. "
fortwith bolgar wrote on Oct 13, 2008 3:09 PM:
" Spider, a little logic and common sense will debunk your "mathamatical" conclusion. You are assuming with your statement that statistics regarding political affiliation among college age Americans is an unchanging number. The reason the ratio is different among older Americans is because when they were college age, the ratio was DIFFERENT than it is now. Welcome to logic, it's a great place with a fantastic view. "
laxlocal wrote on Oct 13, 2008 2:54 PM:
" Spider monkey
Conservs may be older but certainly NOT wiser You live in a closed life not exposed to youth and change. Change is comming and the youth of America are exposed to this change. White America will be the minority in my lifetime. Hispanics are already the largest minority and old school thinking isn't going to cut it anymore. "
spider_monkey wrote on Oct 13, 2008 1:40 PM:
" fortwith bolgar: Since Conservatives and Liberals are pretty evenly split in numbers, by using your math when you said:
"The one saving grace here is the knowledge that her opinion is outnumbered 10 to 1 among her age group by young adults who are clearly much more informed and enlightened."
That must mean that 4 out of every 9 young Liberals turn Conservative as they get older. I think that can be attributed to becoming older and wiser. "
Double A wrote on Oct 13, 2008 12:54 PM:
" It would be interesting to know whether Faith's parent's are Republicans and/or Conservatives. With most rhetoric being so decisevly and often visciously partisan, it would be hard to be raised in a house without adapting the same political views. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but it is a fact, and it does support the group-think characteristics of our critically-injured political scene. "
down2512 wrote on Oct 13, 2008 12:48 PM:
" What about McCain's senate votes regarding taxes, and spending? What about the people that influence his political decisions and campaign platforms and practices? I don't think there is a filthier one I can remember! The garbage I've been forced to view over and over on national news is nothing more or less than dirty republican procedure! If you really believe the people showcased down talking Obama weren't PLANTS you nee your head examined! Let's not forget how W got in the Whitehouse! "Through the back door" would be a compliment to that hooey! And the recent findings on McCain's hand picked running mate! YIKES! If you want four more years of deceit, graft, and pandering to the lobbyists vote republican. Doing that will be sacrificing one of the most important, pivotal, and redefining moments our nation may never see again! "
Athenry wrote on Oct 13, 2008 12:34 PM:
" FB - you may want to enroll is that class, too. Here's a head start, try looking at the BBC's reporting on the presidential race. There are no right or left wing slants with the BBC and you will see some of the important truth that has yet to even come to light by American journalists. "
fortwith bolgar wrote on Oct 13, 2008 9:25 AM:
" Good heavens, someone better put Miss Faith on a suicide watch when Obama wins the presidency, which is exactly what will happen in just under a month now. The one saving grace here is the knowledge that her opinion is outnumbered 10 to 1 among her age group by young adults who are clearly much more informed and enlightened. Faith, I suggest you take a college level course on how to correctly do research. It involves looking at ALL potential angles and opinions. It also requires the ability to separate fact from rhetoric, not just seeking out the violent rightwing BS that you have clearly been beat over the head with your whole life. Here's hoping you someday see the truth through the lies.
FB "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 13, 2008 3:53 AM:
" Dear "just a thinker"...What hateful and ludicrous messages and speeches from the Obama camp are you referring to? The hating and inciting to violence has come from only one side....the side getting its "you know what" getting handed to it this November. All the "angry" republicans should vent that anger at Bush-Cheney-Hastert, etc....the leadership that drove this country into the toilet. What we're witnessing at Palin rallies is criminal ignorance. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 13, 2008 3:40 AM:
" Dear "common cents"....Where ever you dwell there's certainly pantswetting asunder........Hey look out, there's a caliphate lurking in your shrubs. Gotcha.....made you look. "
AmericanPatriot wrote on Oct 12, 2008 8:13 PM:
" Faith is to be commended for doing the research and critical analysis of the issues prior to making up her mind. If only everyone were so thorough!
This election comes down to a very clear choice. One candidate is the most liberal in the senate, the other a moderate. One is radically pro-abortion, the other avowedly pro-life. One candidate is a classic tax and spend liberal, the other a fiscal conservative who wants to freeze spending levels wherever he can. One hasn't a single noteworthy legislative achievement, the other has dozens. One candidate has no military experience upon which to draw as a commander-in-chief, the other served for years with distinction. John McCain is the only qualified candidate in this race. "
just a thinker wrote on Oct 12, 2008 5:28 PM:
" sorry about that BGS, got a few words mixed up at the beginning of last message, just goes to show I make mistakes like other people. I meant to say that while Obama is gaining points, it does not mean smears aren't coming from his party about McCain. Next time I'll check my words before I post, so that I don't make these small mistakes that keep getting checked by the grammar police out there. "
just a thinker wrote on Oct 12, 2008 5:22 PM:
" BnotGS, Obama may be gaining in points, but that does mean there are not smears about McCain coming from his party. I'm not really interested in smears, even though I acknowledge that such actions are occurring; I am looking more for substance, which I said before that neither is doing well at, at least not at the moment. Funnily enough, I'm one of those independent voters both camps are trying to court, and I disagree with both on substance. My advice to those of the two main parties is to state something the other candidate does well and that your candidate is bad at, then we can see who is really objective. I've seen both candidates do this, perhaps we should follow their one good example. "
Common Sense wrote on Oct 12, 2008 4:45 PM:
" BGS, well, there goes the neighborhood. Is pantswetting big in the 3rd district, or is that why you choose Europe? "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 4:37 PM:
" Dear "Phil O"...If we'd followed Barack's advice on Iraq 4,200 American soldiers would still be alive and 10's of thousands wouldn't be permanently mutilated for life....and maybe Bin Laden would be dead or smoke out by now. What a failure.....what a horrific mistake invading Iraq. We made Iran stronger, killed thousands of innocents and ruined our reputation globally. But you keep on with your Cheney-esque support for the Iraq war. No doubt you garner the same popularity as he as well. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 4:32 PM:
" Dear "Phil O"...."Cut and run" is an effective, often necessary naval action. WHo's gonna listen to "Phil O" accuse anyone of being weak in the face of conflict when the man has never been in a conflict himself......takes some yellow guts to levy such accusations Phil. But that's what we've come to expect from you and most of the right wingers..."cut and run". "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 4:26 PM:
" Dear "just a thinker"....What campaigns are you watching? Obama's campaign has been gainin' points each day ever since McCain and especially Palin began the nutwing attacks on Obama similar to those listed by the community columnist today..
Dear "common sense"...I'm registered to vote in the 3rd District....I have family there......and I have plans on returning one day soon.
You're sounding awfully razzled.... "
ryeguy wrote on Oct 12, 2008 1:49 PM:
" Sounds to me like Faith has some growing up to do. This is all rehashed right wing website gobbledygook, unworthy of a letter to the editor,much less a community columnist. She obviously has been "home schooled" in lots of ways. Maybe indoctrinated is more like it. Jerome Corsi is the Swift Boat guy, whose books are so riddled with factual errors as to be libelous if he were not writing about public figures. His Obama Nation if filled with baseless innuendo and falsehoods that would make any reasonable person squirm. Disgusting that the Tribune even published this tripe. "
workingman54 wrote on Oct 12, 2008 1:32 PM:
" Great Job Faith! It's refreshing to see a young person logically stating your case with facts to back it up! Obama seems to have too many ties to questionable individuals, mostly criminals in his past. He is a very likeable man and a great motivational speaker, but has no real substance or accomplishments.In this age of economic collapses and world terrorists, we need someone trustworthy and steady at the helm, John Mc Cain. I know many Democrats that will pull a different lever this year, but publically support Obama.The poles mean nothing until after election day! As a former Community Columnist, I commend you for your fair Journalist reporting. I hope you are considering Journalism as a career, keep writing! "
just a thinker wrote on Oct 12, 2008 12:51 PM:
" Look, neither candidate is great at the moment, and while there are some smears from the RNC against Obama, there are also smears from the DNC against McCain. At least Faith is trying to do her own research into the candidates. For once, instead of perpetuating more hostility with one another, maybe we should try to have a civil debate about the differences between the candidates, and not try to blast an opinion we don't agree with. Maybe in my lifetime, I'll get to see that happen. "
blogger wrote on Oct 12, 2008 12:30 PM:
" No freedom in Iraq? So all that talk about WMD and mushroom clouds over American cities was just for show? What this war was all about was creating the illusion that a Shia-led puppet of Iran would pass for freedom? Funny how we have to buy the allegience of the Sunni tribesmen who previously had been the terrorists this war was about in the first place - and protect THEM - from the majority Shia we put in control. Wow, Mrbates, you and Faith have it all figured out! "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 12, 2008 12:27 PM:
" These cut and run Democrats are not the Democrats of John F. Kennedy who said...
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall PAY ANY PRICE, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe TO ASSURE the survival and THE SUCCESS OF LIBERTY." "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 12, 2008 12:17 PM:
" I see the liberal cut and runners are here trying to convince people that the monetary cost of freedom is too high. Will they admit that if America had followed Barack Obama's advice on the Surge that there would be no freedom in Iraq.
Even the liberal rag, the New York Times, has to admit on the peace and freedoms that are existing now in Iraq. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/world/middleeast/10walls.html?pagewanted=1&_r=3&hp) "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 12, 2008 11:57 AM:
" "The three trillion dollar war"
"And, even in the best case scenario, these costs are projected to be almost ten times the cost of the first Gulf War, almost a third more than the cost of the Vietnam War, and twice that of the First World War. The only war in our history which cost more was the Second World War, when 16.3 million U.S. troops fought in a campaign lasting four years, at a total cost (in 2007 dollars, after adjusting for inflation) of about $5 trillion (that's $5 million million, or 2.5 million million). With virtually the entire armed forces committed to fighting the Germans and Japanese, the cost per troop (in today's dollars) was less than $100,000 in 2007 dollars. By contrast, the Iraq war is costing upward of $400,000 per troop."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article3419840.ece "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 12, 2008 11:52 AM:
" To tax-us-more, re: "I'll take the 100 years from now!"
Then expect more taxes, for that costs money...lots and lots of money! "
tax-me-more wrote on Oct 12, 2008 11:35 AM:
" Big Spender
wrote on Oct 12, 2008 10:25 AM:
"When we leave, we either get sectarian-based civil war or a new pro-Putin Saddam--they'll go anti-US the minute we're gone. Take off the rose-colored glasses, Faith Blum! "
Excellent point there BS, so the REAL question then is:
Do we want the civil war or pro-Putin Saddam-- guy taking over tomorrow or 100 years from now?
I'll take the 100 years from now! "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 12, 2008 10:43 AM:
" McCain is anti-abortion? Hard to say:
"I'd love to see a point where it is irrelevant, and could be repealed because abortion is no longer necessary," McCain told the Chronicle in an article published Friday. "But certainly in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade, which would then force X number of women in America to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/mccain082499.htm "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 12, 2008 10:34 AM:
" Blum repeats this RNC lie too:
"The RNC is distorting Barack Obamas Global Poverty Act"
"The letter lied in claiming that it would mandate spending of $845 billion dollars or "$2500 for every American taxpayer.""
"Obama does sponsor the Global Poverty Act (S. 2433), an attempt to focus on one of the largest contributors to global instability. However, it simply asks for a refocusing of resources toward this goal, not new spending, essentially mandating more efficiency and focus in meeting this huge problem. The Congressional Budget Office estimated that "implementing S. 2433 would cost less than $1 million per year." "
http://truthfightsback.com/site/smear/230/?gclid=CNeBnriBopYCFRTbQAodmGt_6w "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 12, 2008 10:31 AM:
" Desperation smears are the order of the day--only Swiftboat crap can save McCain's sorry butt now, that's why Blum writes this garbage:
"Sam Graham-Felsen, a self-proclaimed student of Karl Marx and one of Obamas official bloggers, proudly displays a Russian communist flag in his dorm room at Harvard."
FUD: Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
This is McCain's FUD strategy: it's wicked, but, thanks to an army of ultra-gullible American voters, it does work. Next, these Reichwing rightard characters will say that Obama is after white women. "
OnaRes wrote on Oct 12, 2008 10:27 AM:
" Great article Faith, the trith about Obama Bin Laden is spoken clearly in your article....as far as BGS is concerned do not worry, he is a poor misguided soul who has never walked the walk and does not even live in this country. He talks but his opinion means nothing. "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 12, 2008 10:25 AM:
" Regarding: "Finally, Obama is against the Iraq war, even though it is working,"
It is? Total war costs will exceed three trillion dollars (include interest, long-term veteran bills, etc.). Iraqi war dead: 500,000 to one million. U.S. war dead: around 5,000. U.S. wounded: around 50,000.
When we leave, we either get sectarian-based civil war or a new pro-Putin Saddam--they'll go anti-US the minute we're gone. Take off the rose-colored glasses, Faith Blum! "
willie wrote on Oct 12, 2008 10:17 AM:
" Sounds like Sarah Palin and Barack Obama should be on the same ticket, they are both potentially damaging to this country if in power! More fuel for the fire to get me to commit to the Libertarian party. In the the words of John Stossel, a pure libertarian at heart, "Give me a break". "
CJ wrote on Oct 12, 2008 9:38 AM:
" Is Brian Rickey's brother or what? Seems like a whiney little girl that didn't get asked to the Prom. GREAT article Faith!!!! "
Krusty wrote on Oct 12, 2008 9:36 AM:
" I wasn't going to read Faith's article at first. I thought it was going to be the usual Tribune's pro-obama BS... I am pleasantly surprised! Awesome article Faith! "
Common Sense wrote on Oct 12, 2008 8:37 AM:
" BGS, since you have chosen to live in Europe, I don't see that our election is any of your business. You always struck me as way too much of a wimp to be a football player. Is the pantswetting fettish big over there? Oh, that's right, it is Europe. I guess that is why you repeat that tired old line so often. "
blogger wrote on Oct 12, 2008 8:28 AM:
" I hope this unfocused rant isnt evidence of what happens when someone is "homeschooled". Ms Blum cites as evidence of Obamas evil what the word change means to individuals but not Obama himself - just "association". Is there some connection between a flag in a Harvard dorm room and Obama? She makes a statement about how a campaign strategist selects clients by ... talking to him? Of course not. Because Ms Clinton disagrees with his healthcare ideas she is correct and Obama wrong? It appears Ms Blums preconceived bias influenced this "research". "
Common Sense wrote on Oct 12, 2008 8:26 AM:
" Thank you for the good job, Faith! It's so good to know that all the young people are not lemmings. I don't suppose the Trib and other news media could be embarassed that it took an 18 year old young lady to do their job for them. These are well documented facts. "
dodger wrote on Oct 12, 2008 8:03 AM:
" It reads like a report made from watching FOX news all day long and a little bit of Rush at noon. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 7:31 AM:
" Marxist? Socialist? Do you even know what those words mean Phil?
Is McCain's support of the government bailout and his subsequent proposal for the government to buy hundreds of billions of bad mortgages capitalist free market thinking or socialism? "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 7:26 AM:
" Alaskans have "fierce independence"? What a laughable crock. Alaskans are the USA's biggest welfare Queens....each citizen getting over $2,800.00 a year in US Taxpayer monies....They can't do anything without Federal money. We're giving the Palin's nearly $20,000 this year. Yeah....she's a reformer. What was her reform? She RAISED TAXES on oil companies working in Alaska.....raised taxes. "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 7:21 AM:
" Dear "Phil O"....I can say I got an Academy appointment based on my own merit...John McCain cannot say the same.
Oh, my bad, I so happen to live in the EU. Better I stay in fortress USA with no passport, huh?
The party and policies you full throatedly support have ruined this nation and your continued, unexplainable pantswetting fear of Islamic Caliphates covering your wife in a Burkha motivates me to recommend you seek mental help or quit taking your "pharm's". "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 12, 2008 7:20 AM:
" On the Alaskan Independance Party....if America elects the Marxist Socialist Obama, I suspect alot of people will look into moving to Alaska and joining that party. The party is about Alaska becoming it's own independant country, separate of America. Seeing the direction America is heading, and Alaska's geographic location, and fierce independance, I think AIP may be a great place for people who love freedom.
The truth is that Sarah Palin was never a member. But even if she was, it wouldn't bother me.
(http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/02/politics/animal/main4409075.shtml) "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 7:12 AM:
" Dear "Phil O"...There is no voter fraud....no one has voted. ACORN is required, by law, to submit all registrations.....they cannot edit them......so faulty ones passing along to the voter commissions is normal. You folks on the right are just making alot of noise and commotion over non existent "problems". Luckily the American public has awoken and as the dirty right wing lies thicken so does Obama's lead over McCain/Failin "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 12, 2008 7:10 AM:
" Faith,
Don't sweat fair weather citizens like Brian Smith. His grand service to his country was quiting an Academy prep school, so he could play football at a different college. He loves America so much, he lives overseas and talks down about America overseas.
Brian reminds me of this quote:
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen! Samuel Adams "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 7:07 AM:
" Who is Sarah Palin? She's an active member of the AIP...The Alaska Independence Party. The AIP desires armed insurrection against the US government to secede from the Union and become independent. It's leadership...., Mark Chryson and Steve Stoll all helped Palin during her political career...and she helped them. This is a radical extremist America hating organization seeking armed conflict with the US government......look it up Faith. AIP......It didn't happen when Palin was 8yrs old.....it's happening now. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 12, 2008 6:56 AM:
" Oops. My last link was just a repeat. The real link was supposed to be.....
http://patriotsandliberty.com/?p=2883 "
BrianGSmith wrote on Oct 12, 2008 6:55 AM:
" Dear Faith....I'll start with the buzz word "change" and point out that both McSame and Palin repeat the word "change" ad nauseum. Not in reference to Obama but referring to what they plan to do or bring. So your initial point is irrelevant. Bad start. It goes downhill from there.
Hey....you're 18 an old enough to vote. Did you know that you are also old enough to join the military and go to Iraq and serve in that "peacekeeping" mission you fervently support? I read they've got huge signing bonuses these days to lure the real Patriots into joining. "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 12, 2008 6:54 AM:
" The other big story is how the organization of ACORN is trying to steal the election through voter fraud. The Obama campaign is trying to scrub the evidences of Obama's connections to ACORN, but the story is still getting out.
(http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7203)
(http://www.nypost.com/seven/10122008/news/politics/7_yr__old_gets_an_acorn_vote_133207.htm)
(http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/archive/s_592726.html)
Democrats concerned about cheating are also beginning to abandon the Obama campaign because of his deep ties to ACORN.
(http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=3751)
By the way, for those of you who think that associations with unrepentant terrorists like Ayers means nothing, remember Ayers and Obama gave large amounts of money to ACORN.
(http://www.israpundit.com/2008/?p=3751) "
Phil O'Bates wrote on Oct 12, 2008 6:38 AM:
" Good job, Faith!
I congratulate you on your willingness to speak truth to evil in our times.
I am sure that the Obamatron trolls will be out in force today, being that today is Sunday.
For anyone serious about who Obama supports and what that can lead to, I advise you to study up on Raila Odinga. In 2006, Obama, on the taxpayers doll, went to Kenya on a supposed 'fact finding tour' but wound up campaigning for Odinga. (youtube has plenty of video evidence) Odinga is an avowed Marxist who wants to change Kenya's constitution to include Sharia laws. When Odinga lost a close election, he encouraged his followers to riot, resulting in 1000's of deaths, ~150,000 homeless, and hundreds of Christian churches burned.
Odinga also campaigned on 'change.' Odinga's and Obama's 'change' isn't the change we need. "
enuffalready wrote on Oct 12, 2008 5:22 AM:
" Well then. This should prove interesting today. "
Chatter cat wrote on Oct 12, 2008 3:07 AM:
" Unfortunately, it is too early in the morning for me to write a proper reaction to this editorial. But, I am sure others will provide the rebuttal I am too tired to compose. While this editorial is sure to provoke controversy, I would make a plea to my fellow Obama supporters to post their responses with civility, facts and logical arguments. Please do not resort to name calling and personal attacks. Dont feed the trolls or stoop to their level. "
Athenry wrote on Oct 12, 2008 2:28 AM:
" How very refreshing to see a young person actually researching about the candidates. You missed a large number of issues with Obama, Faith but since this opinion piece is a reflection of your thoughts, I will assume the items you included were the deciding factors that struck home for you. I hope, though, you are prepared for the ugly head of the faceless critics that will soon be leaving their mark on your opinion. "
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