4243 wrote on Nov 6, 2008 6:57 PM:
" How many of the potential ex-employees of Trane have shopped at ununion Walmart and had nonunion workers, maybe Mexicans work on their homes? Now it is pay back time. One needs to support their local workers, even if it cost a little more, for in the long run, one pays. "
machine wrote on Nov 5, 2008 9:59 AM:
" over paid union wages take yet another company down. "
wiseup wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:31 PM:
" Liberals slay me. First we have to help our vanquished enemies~ Germany and Japan and then if we help them, we should help our allies like GB, France, Canada, Mexico, Africa, Asia, Israel etc etc and pretty soon we spend BILLIONS in foreign aid and Clinton signs NAFTA. You can't bring the standard of living UP everywhere without bringing OURS DOWN! Liberals blame businesses for moving out of state/ country instead of accepting responsibility for pushing the business out with TAX and SPEND, environment, red tape, unions, lawsuits, activists and PUNISH the RICH attitudes! "
DM420 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:11 PM:
" LAX,
Things were fine for the first 6 years. It's only been the last two that things have gone to hell. Incidentally, that is also the same time that the Democrats gain majority in the House and Senate. I love how you blame Bush for everything, yet fail to acknowledge that the democrats were in control of 2/3rd's the power.
Like I said before...you deserve the inevitable fall-out of failed liberal/socialist policy. "
Mack wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:47 PM:
" JD5400: Calm down before you have a stroke. "
JD5400 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:34 PM:
" I thought you were an idiot Mack, but you just proved you are stupid too. Your generalized comments prove you have nothing new to say and no ideas of your own. Good luck waiting for the government to bail you out of all your problems and feed you handouts. Hopefully, one day Mack, you will think for yourself and not rely so much on the 6 o'clock news for your education and the government to earn your living. "
Mack wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:16 PM:
" JD5400: Your 35% corporate tax rate only applies to your local bank or small business that operates domestically and is very profitable. Large corporations use offshore corporate charters, offshore subsidiaries and transfer pricing to bring this down to a small fraction of the 35%. The whole idea of the 15% tax on dividends assumed the corporation had already paid the income tax. With large corporations, this is not true. Dividends of large corporations should be taxed at the full rate. Local banks and businesses that pay the full 35% rate should have their shareholder's dividends not taxed at all.
That 45 year old high school education isn't serving you very well, is it? "
JD5400 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:32 PM:
" ...and our government won't get us out of this problem, just like they didn't get us out of the depression. The American people did, and they will again. Great comment though, shows your true colors. "
JD5400 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:30 PM:
" Mack, I know that the numbers and verifiable facts I post seem difficult for someone like you to understand, but I thought you would appreciate something other than your constant regurgitation of CNN or the New York Times. What will get us out of this mess is jobs, and when countries are COMPETING for corporations to due business with them in a down market, our 35% corporate tax doesn't look to appealing when they can do business in Indonesia for 10% or even Hong Kong for 17.5%. I do like your comment about rebuilding the infrastructure and green jobs, but do you think corporations feel they HAVE to do business in the USA?? NOPE!! They want to do this crazy thing called TURN A PROFIT!! "
Mack wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:42 PM:
" JD5400: After this Wall Street Banking crisis you are still blaming our government for taxes. You make the same petty rant on every article instead of actually exercising your gray matter.
Taxes are actually pretty cheap in this country for individuals, unless you are caught in the middle where you pay a good amount in income tax and your full share of the social security.
Most large corporations pay precious little tax in this country with their offshore corporate charters, subsidiaries and transfer pricing tax dodges.
Our government will get us out of this problem if they go back to investing in this country with green programs and rebuilding our infrastructure instead of just handing out money. They got us out of the last depression and they will get us out of this one. "
common-cents wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:46 PM:
" I will second that Big Spender. "
JD5400 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:44 PM:
" Teiresias, don't kid yourself, the government is the ones "holding you over the barrel" with gasoline prices by not allowing any new refineries, tax tax taxing the producing corporation, then tax tax taxing the end product, then taxing the delivery of it, and so on and so on. Do you realize that right now, today, a gallon of gas at the refinery costs much less than $2 per gallon. The rest comes in government tax, roughly 49 cents per gallon, oh an appx. 6 cents per gallon to ship. The remaining $ goes to the store, which gets taxed again, so they just widen their margins to pay for the higher tax, causing the price to be even higher. "
Teiresias wrote on Oct 30, 2008 4:24 PM:
" JD5400, how much have US taxpayers spent to protect Exxon's profits through military action in the oil producing states?
Don't kid yourself--Exxon gets government protection, gets to pollute our environment AND gets to literally hold us over a barrel and pick our pockets. "
enuffalready wrote on Oct 30, 2008 3:10 PM:
" LAX wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:14 PM:
" ..... And it is time for the middle class to get a tax break......Or how about Sarah Palin charging the state of Alaska to drag her kids along when they're not invited to functions. ...there's Ted Steven's house....Randy Cunningham and Jack Abramoff......... John McCain and the Keating 5?"
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Cold Cash William Jefferson with $90k in his freezer
Hot Pants Tim Mahoney who got elected running on "family values" while screwing his mistress and then paying her $120k in hush money. Ha ha ha ha ha
Sandy is that a roll of quarters in your pocket or perhaps highly classified papers that you stole from the National Archives during preparations for the Sept. 11 commission hearings Berger "
PackAttack2O20 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:55 PM:
" McCain said the economy was sound a few weeks ago. But I guess we can give him a pass on that one, considering the alzheimers is setting in. "
Uncle Ted wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:29 PM:
" One more thing - Hillary will NEVER be the best choice for Prez "
Uncle Ted wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:25 PM:
" sillyme - Every recount in FL had Bush coming out ahead - even if by the slightest margin....He won the election - get over it already. "
JD5400 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:24 PM:
" LAX: Exxon Paid OVER $30 BILLION IN TAXES TO THE GOVERNMENT AT A 41% TAX RATE! In other words, just one corporation (Exxon Mobil) pays as much in taxes (over $30 billion) annually as the entire bottom 50% of individual taxpayers, which is 65,000,000 people! How much more should the government get from one company? What, are they too successful for you? Should they be spreading the wealth even more? Don't like to see people do good LAX? Little jealous? F republicans? You're a smart one aren't you. "
LAX wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:16 PM:
" And by the way, DM240, the last eight years of Republican policies and BS have been real successful, haven't they? Bush/McCain are doing just a heck of a job, aren't they!? Idiot! "
JD5400 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:15 PM:
" Mind of Reason, do you know that less than a year ago GWB was being advised that Fannie and Freddie were "fundamentally sound" from your little democrat puke Barney Frank (chairman of the House Financial Services Committee)and his cronies, like OBAMA, who were sweeping sweetheart cash from Fannie and Freddie under their mattresses. But I suppose its Bush's fault that the Democrat led Congress has a 13% approval rating for reasons like this? IN ORDER TO HAVE CHANGE WE MUST HAVE HOPE, AND IN ORDER TO HOPE WE MUST CHANGE! LETS HOPE FOR SOME CHANGE! HOPE HOPE HOPE! CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE! 4 MORE YEARS OF BUSH! McCain isn't Bush, even if your socialist A** wants him to be. Christ you people are stupid. "
LAX wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:14 PM:
" You just don't get it DM240, do you? Nobody said "Tax the hell out of corporations" but when Exxon makes the biggest profits in the history of the world, they can afford to pay more. And it is time for the middle class to get a tax break instead of continuing the corporate welfare and giveaways to companies that send jobs overseas. Not to mention AIG execs who go on a half-million dollar junket AFTER receiving bailout money! Or how about Sarah Palin charging the state of Alaska to drag her kids along when they're not invited to functions. And then there's Ted Steven's house. And how about Randy Cunningham and Jack Abramoff. And how about John McCain and the Keating 5? Not guilty, my a$$! F--k the Republicans! "
Tuesday123 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:47 PM:
" Correction – Fred Poses walked off with between $350 and $400 million dollars - all through stock options provided to him from the ASD Board of Directors. If you care – read through the old proxy statements and you’ll find lots of disgusting compensation awards given to Fred and other Executives as well – typical big company crap. "
sillyme wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:39 PM:
" The American people should have seen this coming when a person is named President even though he was NOT ELECTED to the position. Oh I forgot he won because of his brother's state. I do not believe in Obama's plan for America(he talks way way to smooth). We have NO CHOICE. WE need a Democrat. I still believe Hillary was the best choice for President. "
DM420 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 1:09 PM:
" LAX,
A income tax break does you no good if you have no job. Go ahead, tax the hell out of corporations... just don't complain when they all pack up and leave. Obama supporters are so blind... you deserve the inevitable fall-out failed liberal/socialist policy. "
mind of reason wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:49 AM:
" Go ahead, protect and defend your Republican represantatives. Do you even realize that not even six months ago, old G.W.B. was saying our economy was in good shape? We have been lead by a total moron for the last eight years! He is in such a state of denial that he still thinks invading Iraq was a good idea. I feel sorry for the next president. This nation is in such bad shape that neither a Republican or Democrat will be able to correct the blunders the Bush administration has made. "
quay wrote on Oct 30, 2008 11:49 AM:
" How we save this economy is to go green. Millions of good manufacturing, engineering, maintance and marekting jobs would be created
if we committed to renewable energy. Design
and manufactured here, installed here and export to developing countries. who cares why the world is getting warmer, that fact that it is can be used to sell stuff made here. "
enuffalready wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:51 AM:
" LAX wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:28 AM:
"....like all Republican shills, JD5400 is lying about Obama's plans which are to finally give a tax break to the American middle class -- the REAL Americans that do the REAL work! .....
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@ LAX:
Is this the same middle class tax cut Bill Clinton promised us?? You mean we may finally get THAT one??
I guess President Clinton was too busy 'tutoring' interns, oooops my bad, I mean other things to get around to that tax cut for us.
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It amazes me that Senator Obama is running the exact same campaign against the Republicans that President Clinton ran 16 years ago.
The really sad part is that the Republicans still haven't figured out how to effectively run against it. "
enuffalready wrote on Oct 30, 2008 10:45 AM:
" Rickey/Grant wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:23 AM:
" You Repubs are always trying to blame Unions When its the GOP negative groth,Inflation and supply side economics are the blame for this "
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Rickey/Grant:
What inflation?? Inflation this decade is 2.78% which is well below the 3.42% historical average.
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Rickey/Grant (aka Mr. liberal Kool Aid drinker):
Again, Same Drivel Different Day "
nana3 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:51 AM:
" How many furnaces and air conditioners do they plan to sell in China, India, Bermuda, etc? The way to fix our economy is to try to buy American made, which is a hard thing to do since you can't find Made in America on most products. When the CEO's start losing their jobs along with other upper management, maybe we will see a turn around. These people aren't as bright as they think they are if they can't see that outsourcing the manufacturing jobs will eventually mean there will be no need for their job, unless they are willing to move to India or whatever third world country they are manufacturing in. "
JUSTINTIME wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:40 AM:
" Hey daddylonglegs look at this headline from CNN's website-----it's already happening..............American Express, hammered by the credit crisis, says it will slash 7,000 jobs as part of a drastic cost-cutting initiative. "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:11 AM:
" MEAT PACKER FINED 10 MILLION FOR VIOLATIONS
Now thats sending a message sadly it will probably never be collected and if it is those workers wont see a dime the govt will keep it all. They turn a blind eye to a major fiasco like this then whenppublic pressure mounts to the point they must act, raid them, shut them down and make 10 million dollars.
This is America today and unless those people are compenstated the Gov't is as guilty as the company " "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:04 AM:
" Daddylonglegs: You just made my point for me and when we cant make those loans those global dependents of our baby momma, baby daddy nation will fall apart and it will be dog eat dog and we wont be able to afford to ride in on our white horse and make it go away.
The stage is set and its gonna be a blood bath! "
Im Still Jackson wrote on Oct 30, 2008 9:01 AM:
" The US controls the world money markets if we go in the tank its financial global meltdown.
Ingersoll rand is a global company and will indoubtedly shift jobs out of the country were labors the cheapest. China is in a recession India is in an industrial revolution and thats where most of the jobs are going these days. The depression of 29 effected only America this time its gonna be different. War is immenent on many levels but wont be felt by every US citizen like WW1 and WW2 was. Since vietnam we have learned how to have gentler machine gun hand. "
daddylonglegs wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:48 AM:
" Lets face it-
In case you don't know, now YOUR TAX MONEY is going FOREIGN COUNTRIES (move over Israel).
"SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) - The Federal Reserve said Wednesday it would lend up to $120 billion in dollar reserves to the central banks of Brazil, Korea, Mexico and Singapore, one more sign that emerging markets have become the latest locus of stress in the global credit crisis. " "
mind of reason wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:46 AM:
" Yes the unions are a thing of the past. As an hourly laborer for Trane, La Crossse, I know this as fact. The union at Trane La Crosse is no more than a company puppet. Dear "CataractJack", yes there are some overpaid workers at Trane, but the real joke is the overstaffed Company side of the business. You should see all of the so called "engineers" scrambling to try to make themselves appear worthy of a job. They are crawling out of the woodwork trying to make a change that might save their job. Normally you would never see them on the shop floor. It's like a circus lately. Might I suggest you leave commenting to people that actually know what they are talking about? As for local job cuts, we hav'nt heard anything yet, we have actually added manpower lately. "
JUSTINTIME wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:44 AM:
" Hey JD5400 bring our troops home and we can save 10 billion dollars a month on that alone. Or like McCain would like, we can leave them there for "another 100 years" whatever !!!!! Isn't the old saying "you have spend money to make money" It's also pretty clear when you have the CEO of Google supporting Obama because he knows right is right and wrong is wrong. Let's stop lining the pockets with big oil money for all those damn republicans and get this country back in shape. Go Obama !! Can't wait for Nov 5th to hear all of you McCain backers whine. 8 years of B.S. is about to come to an end---thank the good Lord !! "
daddylonglegs wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:39 AM:
" From what i could find, Bermuda charges IR $27,000/yr to house its "headquarters" (a MAILBOX!) in Bermuda, saving itself $50-100 million a year vs the US.
Corporations want something changed--->hire LOBBYISTS to pay off Senator/Rep/Pres--->politician introduces bill--->bill is passed. Congress has been bought (it has been for a long, long time).
Your precious Obama has been paid for, McCain too.
Follow the money, its all that matters with these people. "
lets face it wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:33 AM:
" Escape from Wisconsin. Escape the USA before taxes go up again! "
daddylonglegs wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:29 AM:
" Bucketz-
They "need" that money. When you have 5 mansions, 10 Ferraris, couple of yachts, private jet, 4 wives (plus a few on the side) you need that kind of income. Plus after working your CEO job for 1/2/5/10 years, you need to retire from all the stress of making that money. "
LAX wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:28 AM:
" Last summer Trane CEO Fred Poses walked off with nearly $50 million while Ingersool Rand has a Bermuda mailbox to avoid millions in taxes that they ought to pay, fair and square. Two years ago a Trane Sr. VP - a US Naval Academy graduate - was asked why Trane was building a production facility in China and if that wasn't unpatriotic. His reply: "I don't know what patriotism means anymore." And like all Republican shills, JD5400 is lying about Obama's plans which are to finally give a tax break to the American middle class -- the REAL Americans that do the REAL work! Vote Obama! If you want to keep giving money to Bermuda-based corporate CEOs and their Wall Street backers that McCain bailed out with our tax $$ and who continue to ship American jobs overseas, then vote for crooks like McBush and $150,000 wardrobe McPalin. "
Km wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:28 AM:
" The unions may be a thing of the past, however most government employees are still union and we all know that government never down sizes or has layoffs. With the republican in power the deficit for this one year is approaching 1 trillian dollars. This same power base has created over 5 trillian in deficit spending over the past few years. Hey 54 haven't you noticed that layoffs' have already started for "all the major companies". Over a million private sector jobs are gone. If you keep doing what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always gotten. Vote Obama. "
Grant wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:23 AM:
" You Repubs are always trying to blame Unions When its the GOP negative groth,Inflation and supply side economics are the blame for this "
bucketz wrote on Oct 30, 2008 8:12 AM:
" One of the problems in this country is that the CEO's make an obscene annual income yet they complain that they need to cut costs. Maybe they should put some of their $10 million bonus back into the company? "
cataractjack wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:51 AM:
" The unions are a thing of the past in this country. The problem with unions is people with no skill are being paid a skilled workers salary. That is at the end of the line in this country. Like the auto makers. They will not pay someone $22 an hour to drive a forklift when you can hire a guy for $10. You cannot blame any company to close and go to another country to cut cost and not pay union wages. "
JD5400 wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:50 AM:
" Thats right Grant, vote Democrat, especially for Obama. That way all the major companies in the US can start their layoffs early in preparation for his ridiculous spending and tax increases. What a jack***! TAX TAX TAX, but when the big companies have to CUT CUT CUT its the republicans fault. CHRIST you people are just nuts.
And Big Spender, although I agree with your entrepreneurial spirit. Why would anybody be motivated to start a business just to be taxed to death once they become successful? This whole "The government needs to do more for me" attitude could be the downfall of this country. "
daddylonglegs wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:48 AM:
" Retail is going to take a huge job hit after the new year.
Credit cards are the next thing to explode (not that foreclosures are done with!). A WalMart official stated this week that they had concluded by looking at the data that people are "maxed" out on their cc (usage of cc was DOWN 7.4% this year, vs double digit increases the last few years). Visa/MC/AE will be next in line for a bailout. "
Leonidas wrote on Oct 30, 2008 7:16 AM:
" Is one person out there surprised by this? I believe the precedent has been set in La Crosse time after time... "
rockin wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:57 AM:
" I was at work on wednesday and they did not say a word to anyone. Maybe it will be management that is let go? "
Grant wrote on Oct 30, 2008 6:14 AM:
" In just five days Your voice can be heard LOUDLY , Just vote the whole Democratic ticket,Just let it out on Election day "
Rickey wrote on Oct 30, 2008 5:47 AM:
" This is the result of 29 years of Reaganomics "
Big Spender wrote on Oct 30, 2008 2:16 AM:
" This is what an economic depression looks like, La Crosse: plant closings and layoffs. Get used to it...this is only the beginning. Expect the hard times to last at least twenty years because there's more to this crisis than the meltdown of the financial sector: there's the debt, commodity prices, the falling dollar, energy, the environment, etc.
Does that mean we throw in the towel? NO! Get entrepreneurial! Now! When the going gets tough, the tough get going! Start a business, get training, move out of the city, learn to live with less (it's possible to be happy with very little!), and most of all, never, never, never give up! Get started today! "
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