Mack wrote on Nov 1, 2008 11:12 PM:
" There is a distinct pattern through history that when we have a Democratic administration we grow more jobs, grow the economy, stocks do better, all better by a significant difference than when there is a Republican administration. If you can even classify these recent cats as Republicans. These dudes are off the chart in ways that are not good. "
enuffalready wrote on Nov 1, 2008 11:02 PM:
" Spender:
There is a distinct pattern throughout American history: When tax rates are reduced, the economy’s growth rate improves and living standards increase. Good tax policy has a number of interesting side effects. For instance, history tells us that tax revenues grow and “rich” taxpayers pay more tax when marginal tax rates are slashed. This means lower income citizens bear a lower share of the tax burden – a consequence that should lead class-warfare politicians to support lower tax rates.
Conversely, periods of higher tax rates are associated with sub par economic performance and stagnant tax revenues. In other words, when politicians attempt to “soak the rich,” the rest of us take a bath. Examining the three major United States episodes of tax rate reductions can prove useful lessons.
Again, I ask, why raise taxes on ANYONE?? "
enuffalready wrote on Nov 1, 2008 10:47 PM:
" Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:01 PM:
" To enuff, re: "And Spender I would ask you the same, I continue to post items that you just ignore, so why don't you respond to them??"
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I always reply to solid criticism; I just don't see that sort of thing coming from you. "
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Okay then BS how tell me again how bad the Republican deficits are. When you look at the deficits as a % of GDP, the last 3 years are all less than the worst Clinton years.
Also, stated in constant 2000 dollars, tax receipts to the government are up 14% compared to the Clinton years. So why would we want to raise taxes on any group, rich or poor, when lower taxes increase revenue to the government?
It's a SPENDING ISSUE. Lets cut spending!! "
johnnyrover wrote on Nov 1, 2008 9:02 PM:
" The electoral college needs to go...it should be by popular vote to remove the candidates ability to "game" the system. "
transplant wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:55 PM:
" I hope that is the last vote Mikey Huebsch is able to cast. Go Cheryl! "
Mack wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:34 PM:
" Consider This: Silly me, what was I thinking? I must have been wrong when I read posts that tell others to 'shut up' or bully other's ideas with out any attempt at discourse. I must be too sensitive when Rush Limbaugh shouts down callers who do not agree with him. How unpatriotic of me to think Palin is wrong for calling Americans who agree with 'Pro-American', implying others are something less. Please accept my apology and thanks for setting me straight. I am in awe of your genius. "
Consider This wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:51 PM:
" Mack
wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:58 PM:
" DM420: If you want to be in control of what other's write, you're probably going to have to start your
Actually, it is the DEMOCRATS who want to limit FREEDOM OF SPEECH
http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2008/11/01/newsupdate/12jackson.txt "
Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:15 PM:
" repost, requested by DiM420:
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion AGAIN!...Almost hits $600 Billion!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a THIRD time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FOURTH time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FIFTH time!
all from http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
This year the Bush debt increase will top a trillion for the first time! Most of the Bush deficits were rubber-stamped by a Republican Congress that included John McCain!
Hey Republicans, do you still call yerselves fiscal conservatives! Haw! "
Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:07 PM:
" To Dum420, re: "For the past 3 weeks I haven't read any of your comments. I'll see your name and scroll right past. It’s obnoxious that you would have 3 posts one after another about nothing (I haven't read them)."
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So, you missed my post today that proves McCain is a practicing cannibal? How rude! "
Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:01 PM:
" To enuff, re: "And Spender I would ask you the same, I continue to post items that you just ignore, so why don't you respond to them??"
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Mostly, enuff, you post red herring and straw man replies...you dodge, you shake, rattle and roll...
I always reply to solid criticism; I just don't see that sort of thing coming from you. "
Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 6:57 PM:
" To justsomewoman, re: "I hope you eat your fingers IF Obama gets in and not only beats out the repub in national debt to fund all his increased programs and cuts to the poor and working class..."
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Congratulations! You're the first rightwinger to dare to take me on directly, instead of just dodging the point in the usual rightwing way! Refreshing!
To answer your point, Obama will have to cut corporate welfare and transfer payments to the rich: the Dems need to reconsider the Bush-McCain Wall Street Bailout Bill as well. The working classes fare better under Obama than under McCain, by far: rich white guy McCain is all about making life better for rich white guys, like the Bushes, like Reagan, like Nixon...
The record, as I posted below is clear: Republicans run up the debt more than Democrats, by far. "
Mack wrote on Nov 1, 2008 6:14 PM:
" DM420: I guess I read too much into your post of "Seriously, shut up. No one reads your comments. " "
DM420 wrote on Nov 1, 2008 2:43 PM:
" Mac,
I don't want control. I just want him to know that I, as well as many others don't read his posts.
Most of us here have a conversation, back and forth. Sure we aren't agreeing often, but we do listen to each other and use that to form a response. Spinner isn't contributing, he's just copying and pasting liberal talking points over and over and over again.
If that's what he going to do, then I won't read his posts, ever. It's a childish and frankly, asinine. While I don't agree with many of the Obama supporters that blog here, I do respect them for posting their thoughts and not copying and pasting the same link in every political article in that day's paper. "
Mack wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:58 PM:
" DM420: If you want to be in control of what other's write, you're probably going to have to start your own blog. "
nana wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:10 PM:
" dm420 you're not alone. I actually just skipped over spender's comments. "
DM420 wrote on Nov 1, 2008 12:56 PM:
" Big Spender,
For the past 3 weeks I haven't read any of your comments. I'll see your name and scroll right past. It’s obnoxious that you would have 3 posts one after another about nothing (I haven't read them). If you have a real comment or response, fine, but the stupid posts are annoying.
I'm sure I'm not alone when it comes to skipping over your posts! "
Common Sense wrote on Nov 1, 2008 11:56 AM:
" Analogy: you have a party to go to. You are tired of your old clothes, so you go out and buy a good looking pair of new shoes. When it is time to get dressed for the party, you begin to wonder if those new shoes are going to be comfortable and if they will serve the purpose. So you go to the closet and get out your old reliable comfortable pair of shoes and wear them because you know what you can expect from them. For those of you who can't figure it out, party = election, new shoes = Obama, old reliable shoes = McCain. "
justsomewoman wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:24 AM:
" Why? Cause now we are democracy and that means the majority wins. Well, the majority is bowing to and transed by this scum. Who probably doesn't even have a birthright or constitutional right to run for office. HE HAS DONE NOTHING!!!!
Folks NOTHING!!!!!
And what he is saying he is going to do is BAD and people are still supporting him.
Wake UP!!
Watch this video. Do it quick, cause my guess is that the TRIB is going to delete my post.
http://www.citizenslim.com/
IT is the bottom video 1 hour --BUT OH SO INFORMATIVE and SCARY. You may have to try a few times to get the page up cause I believe the traffic has been crazy and sometimes it doesn't work. Forward the webpage to everyone on your email list. They need to be informed. "
justsomewoman wrote on Nov 1, 2008 8:13 AM:
" Well, Big Spender--I hope you eat your fingers IF Obama gets in and not only beats out the repub in national debt to fund all his increased programs and cuts to the poor and working class--shuts down big businesses by overtaxing them --in the name of redistribution-- Soo every working person looses their jobs and is now on governement funds.---Folks, you just can't have everyone middle class --it don't work-- you need employers to have employees. Employers need to make money to operate. Then when the government takes over the big business and is now in total control of the US You can go be in Obama's civilian army/workforce--that the governemnt controls. I hope your a man, cause you will have no choice.
Then you can shut your big mouth cause our nation will no longer be free--a constitution will not longer exist. "
enuffalready wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:58 AM:
" Big Spender wrote on Oct 31, 2008 1:33 AM:
" Isn't the real Palin nightmare enough?
"Palin's secession flirtation"
"For years she has courted the Alaska Independence Party, which wants to split the state from the U.S."
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-brooks4-2008sep04,0,5675222.column
"Sarah Palin/Tina Fey SplitScreen: Original Upload"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y7E235ujJ4
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Palin has never been a member of, or associated with, the Alaskan Independence Party.
Still another of your untruths. "
enuffalready wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:55 AM:
" Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 3:09 AM:
Why did you resort to this childish remark instead of refuting my comments? Answer: you couldn't refute them because they are the awful truth...you even hide the truth from yourself!
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And Spender I would ask you the same, I continue to post items that you just ignore, so why don't you respond to them??
When you start to respond to those then I will consider posting to yours. "
Mack wrote on Nov 1, 2008 7:00 AM:
" Is this a situation where Huebsch would be required to vote as a representative of the people or could his special interests and lobbyists influence his vote here too? "
Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 3:09 AM:
" To Duh420, re: "Seriously, shut up. No one reads your comments."
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You do. Your irritation level proves it.
Why did you resort to this childish remark instead of refuting my comments? Answer: you couldn't refute them because they are the awful truth...you even hide the truth from yourself!
So, refute my claim that Republicans are the Greatest Borrow-and-Spenders of All Time! Respondez! "
Dm420 wrote on Nov 1, 2008 2:50 AM:
" Big Spender,
Seriously, shut up. No one reads your comments. "
Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 2:02 AM:
" Do check out the Borrow-and-Spend Republicans versus the Fiscally-Conservative Democrats debt chart here...it takes a quite a few seconds to load because of all that whopping Republican debt! Someone's gonna have to pay all that Republican debt: you and me, not McCain's Wall Street base.
http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html "
Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:58 AM:
" ctd...Almost hits $600 Billion!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a THIRD time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FOURTH time!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion a FIFTH time!
all from http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
This year the Bush debt increase will top a trillion for the first time! Most of the Bush deficits were rubber-stamped by a Republican Congress that included John McCain!
Hey Republicans, do you still call yerselves fiscal conservatives! Haw! "
Big Spender wrote on Nov 1, 2008 1:54 AM:
" We all owe a great debt thanks to these electors...scratch that...we all owe a great debt thanks to the Republican electors we elected:
http://www.lafn.org/gvdc/Natl_Debt_Chart.html
President Ronald Reagan is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $100 Billion in one year!
President Ronald Reagan is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $200 Billion in one year!
President George H.W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $300 Billion in one year!
President George H.W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $400 Billion in one year!
President George W. Bush is the first President to increase the National Debt by more than $500 Billion in one year!
President George W. Bush has increased the National Debt by more than $500 Billion AGAIN!... "
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